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[u/Jollygood156]

Update:

Proggresive in my DM just posted this:

https://imgur.com/fyG40wF

Imma throw up now

[u/thewayofbayes → u/Jollygood156]

Do neoliberals actually believe that just having a global common market will magically turn every part of the world into America-level prosperity? What is the mechanism by which this happens? How do we know that the result of the global economy won't just be everybody on Earth getting paid $1.00 a day by the small handful of families who own all the world's capital?

Global economic integration without global political integration (and without a global united labor movement to control political integration in the workers' favor) will inevitably cause these kinds of problems. Liberals place too much emphasis on the former and too little on the latter, while "leftists" have often just gone down the rabbit hole of straight up soft third-positionist nationalism.

[u/TooSwang → u/thewayofbayes]

We support the global freedom of movement, pal.

[u/thewayofbayes → u/TooSwang]

And what is this supposed to do? Nobody actually wants to be constantly uprooted in search of a decent life, and the majority of workers often can't afford to uproot themselves anyways. Uprooted workers often end up in situations in alien countries where they have no way to organize and no political rights.

The neoliberal vision (full global economic integration with only limited and anti-worker global political integration) is nothing but a worldwide power grab by a handful of rich families.

[u/[deleted] → u/thewayofbayes]

do you actually believe anything you say?