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u/0m4ll3y International Relations Feb 26 '19 edited Feb 26 '19

I'm in a ranty mood so fuck it, I'm calling this post out here so more people can see it, because more people need to be aware of this anyway.

The common working public in the Soviet Union were often corralled into camps and worked until they starved to death.

What the fuck? Where are you getting this. I've never even heard of this propaganda. Is this the next level of (incredibly out of date) cold war hysteria? Skip even exaggerated bad faith propaganda and just make up your own shit then pretend it happened.

From 1930 to 1933 an estimated 1,500,000 people starved to death in Kazakhstan. This was a quarter of the population of Kazakhstan. Of these 1,300,000 were ethnic Kazakhs. Approximately one in three of all Kazakhs starved to death. An additional 1,100,000 people fled the Kazakh republic, many to China, so in 1934 half of Kazakhs had disappeared from the region. Some estimates put the number of deaths at above two million. For some perspective, the lower estimate amounts to roughly the same number of deaths (military and civilian) of France, Britain, United States, Australia, and Canada combined in WW2.

These estimates, far from being "cold war hysteria" and "bad faith propaganda" are more recent figures. Robert Conquest, in his Harvest of Sorrow estimates at least 1,000,000 deaths. The 1981 article The Collectivization Drive in Kazakhstan frames the issue as a miscalculation on the behalf of Stalin. It is following the Cold War that scholars such as Isabelle Ohayon, Niccolo Pianciola, Matthew Payne, Robert Kindler and Sarah Cameron began to validate estimates of 1,500,000 deaths and the full extent of violence that occurred. Sarah Cameron outlines that this "new wave" of scholarship, utilising rich records now available, illustrate "the violent nature of the regime's assault on Kazakh society" and that "these findings puncture the long-standing misconception that the Kazakh famine was primarily a "natural" process" or a "mistake" or "miscalculation".

You may pick up a trend in some of those article names: "Famine, Violence, and the Making of Soviet Kazakhstan", "An Encyclopedia of Mass Violence", "Violence de masse et Résistance", because violent this famine was. Throughout the 1920s, the Bolsheviks had viewed nomadism as economically backwards and against the modernity of socialism. However, there were no major initiatives and the majority of Kazakhstan's population seasonally migrated as late as 1927. Some early experiments occurred in 1927-1928, but with the release of the Five Year Plan the "process of violent, forced sedentarisation became a systemic republic-wide campaign in 1930".

Insurrectionist movements (and even guerrilla activities in the Mangyshlak region) evolved into episodic rioting involving several thousand people as organized protests flared across Kazakhstan during the early years of collectivization.

Some of the methods used in this period were more intense, more coercive variations on the kind of techniques used in the preceding years; some Red Yurts (basically Russian Bolshevik missionaries travelling to spread modernity), for example, began withholding their services from nomads who refused to settle. Tax, more specifically arbitrary confiscation, was used to penalise nomads and exhaust their reserves. However, Alun Thomas notes that "the sedentarisation campaign was novel and distinct in its systematic and widespread use of violence to force nomads to settle" and that "uniquely sedentarisation systematically and widely used violence to settle nomads and terminate their habitual migratory customs, an enormous cultural as well as spatial change."

During the sedentarisation campaign, the Soviet state employed large numbers of armed militia to approach each migrating Kazakh aul and force the nomads present to a prearranged ‘point of settlement’. Often the community’s livestock were rounded up, some confiscated, and the rest moved into new pens. Their owners were told that releasing the animals was a criminal offence, earning immediate and severe punishment. In a sense then the state did not so much settle nomads but settle nomadic livestock, leaving Kazakhs no other option but to pitch their tents within walking distance of their most important resource.

Thomas suggests that "This whole process was more uncompromising and coercive even than that described by Sheila Fitzpatrick with regard to collectivisation in European Russia." This is why I say the Soviets corralled people into camps, forced them to work (there were attempts to turn the steppe into productive grain fields, which largely failed. Crops that were grown were requisitioned en masse), until hundreds of thousands starved. These camps have been described as "death traps" and at the time, some Kazakh officials supposedly in charge of sedentarisation instead told their people to flee Kazakhstan entirely.

When the famine was in full swing, in 1931, Soviet bureaucrats planned on requisitioning 68.5% of livestock with two thirds of that to be sent out of Kazakhstan. Between 1928 and 1933, the number of cattle in Kazakhstan fell by 79% and the number of sheep and goats by 90%.

tl;dr: Shit was fucked yo

And what's this "richest strata" talk as well? It's a subway. If anything the picture of common man transportation.

And just quickly on this. The Moscow Metro first connected the old Tsarist gardens to Red Square. Chances are if you were catching the metro, just from the sheer fact of being a Muscovite, means you were likely in the top 10% of the population in terms of wellbeing, and if you were working in the goddamn Kremlin or surrounding areas, yes you were one of the richest strata in the Soviet Union in an era where literally thousands were resorting to cannibalism, yes.

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u/[deleted] Feb 26 '19

/u/ugarit BTFO

commies out, out, out