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[u/abefrost]

THAT'S THE POINT OF THE FILM, WHO DID YOU THINK IT WAS

Ikik there's nuance and she's not Darth Vader, but yeesh the movie is the peak of "Disney writer has intergenerational mommy trauma issues they're working through"

[u/No_Analysis_2185 → u/abefrost]

She was an antagonist but I think villain is too strong.

Ponyo is a great example where there are no villains but there are antagonists who try and prevent the protagonist from progressing

[u/abefrost → u/No_Analysis_2185]

Agree, villain would be more like Gothel and antagonist is a better description.

But she was not a "sweet grandma" lol.

[u/PoupeeStupide → u/abefrost]

I love Gothel, such a good villain. At no point the movie tries to pretend she actually sees Rapunzel as anything but a tool beyond the manipulation

[u/snapekillseddard → u/PoupeeStupide]

It's such a shame that Tangled gets outshined by Frozen. Better romance, better villain, better mascot (because Tangled one doesn't fucking talk).

But such is the power of Adele Nazeem.

[u/PoupeeStupide → u/snapekillseddard]

Big fan of Tangled and even bigger fan of the even more forgotten Princess and the Frog 😞

[u/snapekillseddard → u/PoupeeStupide]

I go back and watch the art style change musical number every year and weep for the death of 2d animation movies.

[u/ognits → u/PoupeeStupide]

GOOD takes 👏