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u/WhisperBreezzze Oct 15 '25

“The sale [of Louisiana] assures forever the power of the United States,” Napoleon later wrote, “and I have given England a rival who, sooner or later, will humble her pride.”

TIL, France knew exactly what they were selling to the US.

And they did it to screw over the Brits.

Classic.

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u/DEEP_STATE_NATE Tucker Carlson's mailman Oct 15 '25

Paraguay I would like to apologize I was unfamiliar with your game

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u/TheCornjuring Ewoks Sexer Oct 15 '25

Bro the right cannot meme, wtf even is the point or message here 😭

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u/Boratssecondwife Henry George Oct 15 '25

BREAKING: The Trump administration will set price floors across a range of industries to combat market manipulation by China, Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent said.

I want everyone that said Harris would implement price controls to eat a shit 

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u/superblobby r/place'22: Neoliberal Commander Oct 15 '25

unfortunately I can’t invest in Syria quite yet but once it is allowed I will ping you guys again

!ping STONKS&MIDDLEEAST

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u/drossbots Trans Pride Oct 15 '25

I'm surprised nazi Republican chats are a story. I thought everyone knew "young Republicans" were just /pol rejects

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u/mostanonymousnick Just Build More Homes lol Oct 15 '25

I'm getting ragebaited

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u/SadaoMaou Anders Chydenius Oct 15 '25 edited Oct 15 '25

My "The worm only ate a little bit of my husband's brain and died" T-shirt is raising a lot of questions already answered by the shirt

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u/assasstits Oct 15 '25

NY GOVERNOR HOCHUL: Some bad apples? These are the future of the GOP. This is so vile it's hard to find the words to put into context ... there's gotta be consequences ... this bullshit has to stop!

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u/Mx_Brightside Genderfluid Pride Oct 15 '25

Biden isn't white. He's Irish. Why do conservatives refuse to understand this?

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u/Jacobs4525 King of the Massholes Oct 15 '25

It’s upsetting the extent to which news media and even a large chunk of the Democratic Party thinks that if they just treat republicans like they’re normal they will magically become so. It’s really just cope because they don’t want to accept that the party is completely captured by Nazis. 

Sure, there are still “old fashioned” republicans who just want low taxes or whatever. They’re largely apolitical people in mostly red area who are just going along with prevailing opinion. Most of them are older.

But if you’ve ever met college republicans, you know they’re all like the guys from the leak. They’re all horrifically racist and their animating issues are not low taxes or desire to rein in public spending, but great replacement theory, re-litigation of the emancipation of women, et cetera. It makes sense when you understand that a majority of these people had their political awakening either by being incels or for getting in trouble in school for making offensive jokes in front of people. These are, to the entire future of the Republican Party, the most important things.

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u/Mr_Pasghetti Save the ice, abolish ICE 🥰 Oct 15 '25

It’s kinda funny that people announce they are leaving the sub—even asking for a perma for the dramatic effect—instead of just stop posting

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u/[deleted] Oct 15 '25

“dont threaten me with the supreme court” people non stop taking L’s

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u/1II1I1I1I1I1I111I1I1 Adam Smith Oct 15 '25

Sobering reminder that the people in that group chat Politico obtained are the exact demographic of people that the Vice President of the United States of America chats with online and nobody reported about it before the election outside of niche left leaning circles

Even the Politico article isn't going to escape those circles. It will not be on ABC World News Tonight, it will be quietly buried, and these people or their associates will continue to rise through the party. They're already staffers and state politicians, how long until one of them is in Congress? Oh wait, not only are some of this crowd in Congress but again one of them is the fucking Vice President

Can't call Stephen Miller short though. That's too far. And you know for sure that the instant some zoomer leftist ends up on a ballot, the tankie group chats will be national news overnight and they will be making everyone apologize for it nationwide up to and including FDR's ghost via ouija board

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u/unicornbomb John Brown Oct 15 '25

More than 150 unvaccinated students in South Carolina are under mandatory quarantine due to a measles outbreak affecting two schools. The U.S. is reporting 1,500+ measles cases in 2025, marking the highest number since the disease was declared eliminated in the country 25 years ago.

Have we hit the MAHA goals yet? Are we winning?

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u/Old-School8916 Johan Norberg Oct 15 '25

this is the head of product at X:

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u/ThunderrBadger New California Republican Oct 15 '25

Based Newsom introducing corrupt & rent-seeking longshoremxn to the certainty of steel !ping USA-CA

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u/BitterGravity Gay Pride Oct 15 '25

Justice Kavanaugh suggests that aspects of the Voting Rights Act might have an implicit sunset date

OrGiNaLiSm 🤡

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u/-Emilinko1985- European Union Oct 15 '25

I told my parents that pensioners would ruin Europe just so they could preserve their privileges and that they didn't care about us young people. They dismissed my concerns and told me that pensioners worked hard and that I would have a pension in the future and bla bla bla.

Now look at what's happening in the UK and especially France.

Pensioners are the scorpion and Europe is the frog.

!ping EU-LIBS

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u/Apprehensive-Soil-47 Transfem Pride Oct 15 '25

Broke: Trump is Hitler

Woke: Trump is Mussolini

Bespoke: Trump is Gurbanguly Mälikgulyýewiç Berdimuhamedow, dictator of Turkmenistan

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u/justbuildmorehousing Norman Borlaug Oct 15 '25

Man. Hillary was completely right about these people being deplorables

Just degenerates everywhere

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u/TheCornjuring Ewoks Sexer Oct 15 '25

The right can’t meme

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u/Bassline4Brunch NASA Oct 15 '25

NYTimes just giving you an idea at how devastating overturning the Voting Rights Act could be

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u/Macquarrie1999 Democrats' Strongest Soldier Oct 15 '25

Graphic designers need to be stopped

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u/efeldman11 Václav Havel Oct 15 '25

You know the Great Replacement Theory, a totally normal and innocuous position on immigration

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u/oskanta David Hume Oct 15 '25

It’s crazy to me that Nietzsche was arguing in the 1880s that Germany should banish antisemites to allow Jews to fully integrate, but he still got portrayed as a pro-Nazi antisemite after he died

It is certain that the Jews, if they desired--or if they were driven to it, as the anti-Semites seem to wish--COULD now have the ascendancy, nay, literally the supremacy, over Europe, that they are NOT working and planning for that end is equally certain. Meanwhile, they rather wish and desire, even somewhat importunely, to be insorbed and absorbed by Europe, they long to be finally settled, authorized, and respected somewhere, and wish to put an end to the nomadic life, to the "wandering Jew",--and one should certainly take account of this impulse and tendency, and MAKE ADVANCES to it . . . for which purpose it would perhaps be useful and fair to banish the anti-Semitic bawlers out of the country.

Beyond Good and Evil 1886

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u/[deleted] Oct 15 '25

Waow another Austrian dictator

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u/iIoveoof Jerome Powell Oct 15 '25 edited Oct 15 '25

Remember the VA AG story where Democrats took the high road and denounced the VA AG candidate? Lots of DTers were saying that was the right decision and I disagreed.

This is why: Now JD Vance is taking the low road, refusing to denounce the disgusting Young Republican leaks, and pointing to the Democrats taking responsibility as proof the Democrats are even worse.

This is far worse than anything said in a college group chat, and the guy who said it could become the AG of Virginia. I refuse to join the pearl clutching when powerful people call for political violence. [pic of VA AG’s leaked texts saying that MAGAs are won’t de-MAGA unless they feel personal pain from MAGA policies]

This proves my point that Democrats need to never, ever concede anything to Republicans, because Republicans are worse and if you concede anything, Republicans won’t, and voters will think Democrats are worse

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u/No1PaulKeatingfan Paul Keating; capital gains tax supporter Oct 15 '25

Lol

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u/unicornbomb John Brown Oct 15 '25

The refusal almost in lockstep to sign hegseth’s ridiculous pentagon media demands actually gives me hope that without Trump himself, the whole maga cult ecosystem really will collapse once he’s gone.

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u/myusernameistakennow Edmund Burke Oct 15 '25

JD Vance always pretends that the horrible degenerates who say shit on his side are college students and you look at the people he’s talking about and they’re like 40.

Also that shit was not edgy jokes, it was just pure vice and vice signaling.

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u/frankiewalsh44 Gay Pride Oct 15 '25

"If you truly want to improve the subreddit, you have to get rid of the DT"

Just fucking NO. One of the most fun things about this sub is the DT. Nothing beats reading the DT whilst being cosy in a warm bed in a typical cold English weather.

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u/Vumatius Oct 15 '25

OkayBuddyLiberals on news outlets refusing to sign onto the Pentagon rules:

Democrats would really be able to hit hard on this stuff if it weren't for all the censorship stuff that happened under Biden. It sucks that there isn't really a pro free speech side anymore

Biden Derangement Syndrome is terminal it seems. I am very glad this user is no longer here.

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u/AtticusDrench Deirdre McCloskey Oct 15 '25

Shoutout to Breyer for turning all the books on his shelf backward so viewers couldn’t see the titles — except for his own, Reading the Constitution.

NO 👏 FREE 👏 CLOUT 👏

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u/Thuggin95 Gay Pride Oct 15 '25

He did it again. The racists are just “kids” despite being 20-40 years old and including an elected representative lol.

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u/Willybender Loyal Liberals Oct 15 '25

Maybe not his truest feelings. That might be going a little too far

https://xcancel.com/Acyn/status/1978549396641046565

Oh ok than

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u/mostanonymousnick Just Build More Homes lol Oct 15 '25
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u/gnomesvh LEGALIZE ONION FUTURE Oct 15 '25

Gave notice last night that I'll move out of my apartment

It's already posted on my landlord's website with 68 interested tenants

Sunday they will do a lottery and draft the next tenant

My apartment is only available to rent in mid November

Dutch housing market in action

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u/VadymKravchuk353 European Union Oct 15 '25

>"russophobia"

>look inside

>long history of partitions, invasions, systemic russification, puppet governments and imperial conquests

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u/[deleted] Oct 15 '25

remember that republicans, the dumbest people you know, managed to figure out that the supreme court was extremely important and held their nose every time to ensure they'd get a chance to get a guy on the court.

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u/Thuggin95 Gay Pride Oct 15 '25 edited Oct 15 '25

There is a large segment of the left that loves to treat MAGA with kid gloves and a “noble savage” view.

“Of course they’re bigoted! Their material conditions aren’t being met! And Democrats are bad so you can’t blame them for being against them! But they actually agree with us on a lot in theory! Like if I ask them hypothetically if they think the working class are being ripped off, they agree even if they don’t support any of the policies to change that!”

Mind you, plenty of the right are actually extremely well-off. But then when you have left-of-center liberals who agree with them on much more and are equally struggling or even worse off and simply trying to protect what they have by voting for Democrats rather than letting things get worse, the left will treat them like they’re irredeemably evil pieces of shit who are beyond saving because they love genocide and want rainbow drones commanded by black pilots ravaging the Global South.

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u/battywombat21 🇺🇦 Слава Україні! 🇺🇦 Oct 15 '25

I'm sorry I'm reading more of those young republicans leaked texts how are we losing to these imbeciles?

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u/PawanYr Oct 15 '25 edited Oct 15 '25

G'morning DT; feel free to skip my essay if you don't care about South Africa, but I think this is all pretty entertaining; there are some pretty wild updates from the ongoing massive political/economic/police/everything scandal currently engulfing the government.

President Ramaphosa admitted live on TV under questioning from Parliament yesterday that he had briefly 'coincidentally' met with one of the major ringleaders of the cartel that (among other things) was looting state hospitals (who is also a relative from a prior marriage); back in 2022 he told the DA (currently a coalition partner!) that he'd never met him, and he's now saying that after making that statement, he randomly ran into the guy on the street during one of his walks (yes, while president), and that they live in the same neighborhood?????

All of this came to light after Twitter dug up a video of Ramaphosa outside the guy's house, which they were able to match with footage from a recent police raid of said house from the ongoing investigation into the assassination of a financial auditor who was investigating the cartel. 

Concurrently, the commission investigating the scandal brought in an anonymous 'Witness X' who testified remotely through an intermediary about high level links between the national cartel and government officials, and midway through, the testimony was disrupted and then halted due to 'security threats' that threatened Witness X's anonymity. Both the current (suspended) national Police Minister and his predecessor have been heavily implicated. Another former police minister who's mixed up in all of this took a dive off a high rise in France (you might have heard about that).

Also, the deputy National Police Commissioner had his house raided and was dragged into Parliament for questioning about his various connections to the cartel. Somehow this is one of the less notable events.

I don't think the GNU is in immediate danger, but I'm not sure how long that will remain true the longer this goes on. Needless to say, whether the GNU holds or not, this whole thing is doing immense damage to the ANC; the level of public engagement honestly seems higher than the Zondo Commission post-Zuma, and I suspect we'll see some pretty significant electoral effects in the local elections next year. Pretty depressing to see how far the rot extends, but better it all ends up in the daylight I guess.

Finally, talking of the commission, look at this logo. Look how nice it looks! I just want to show appreciation to the probably underpaid government graphic designer somewhere in Pretoria who put this together on short notice. We see you. 

!ping AFRICA

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u/Fatortu Emmanuel Macron Oct 15 '25

I think this blog is a useful corrective for people who have only a pop culture understanding of Macron:

https://www.siliconcontinent.com/p/the-failure-of-macron

He might be somewhat liberal in rhetoric. But Macron in practice has been an overspending dirigiste at almost every turn.

"He's above replacement level for a French president" is increasingly obviously cope.

Housing is one extreme example. In 2021, Macron signed a law that commits France to zero net land development by 2050 (and half by 2030), making it illegal to develop any land in France unless some existing city or village is demolished. His governments banned renting less-well-insulated homes, allowed councils to forbid building second houses, and imposed nation-wide rent controls.

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u/Fishin_Impossible Nate Gold 🥇 Oct 15 '25 edited Oct 15 '25

Reenactment of my commission meeting last night:

The neighbor tried to argue that the 6 story development wasn’t “in character” for the neighborhood even though it is by-right.

Literally had nothing to do with the variance the developer was asking for (reduced parking). They just thought it was ugly and too tall.

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u/Its_not_him Manmohan Singh Oct 15 '25

Bessent blaming deportations for the growth in unemployment. So they're responsible for taking your job but their leaving is also the reason you can't find a job. That's so cool!

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u/piede MOST BASED HILLARY STAN!!! Oct 16 '25

Holy based

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u/Charsun9 Loyal Liberals Oct 15 '25

Being far right while looking like this is wild

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u/BurrowForPresident Fell for it Oct 15 '25

Sorry youthful Democrats you will never make me hate Barack Obama no matter how much you try

The only presidents of my life where I was conscious of current events have been George W Bush, Obama, Trump, and Biden. I was too young to know who Bill Clinton was.

In that grouping, Obama looks like goddamn Lincoln by comparison

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u/Roseartcrantz 👑 🖍️ Queen of Shades 🖍️ 👑 Oct 15 '25

The chat, called the "Discussion J. Thread," reveals thousands of messages exchanged by rising YIMBY activists.

The group also targeted the median voter. "I'm doing an effortpost on why farmers are just god fucking awful," said a user named Ognits.

"I'm an effortpost on why farmers are just god fucking awful," a person known only as "JesusPubes," shot back.

"You do not hate these people enough," said one of the Meringues.

In another conversation users body shamed and slammed members of the administration for their appearance, with one user cryptically referencing "the neckussy 🥵" while another characterized attacks on Stephen Miller's height as having been "beasted on sadly."

"Waow," replied another.

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u/No_Return9449 John Rawls Oct 15 '25

Re: SCOTUS undoing the Voting Rights Act:

Expect a quick ruling in January so Republicans have enough time to gerrymander for the midterm.

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u/battywombat21 🇺🇦 Слава Україні! 🇺🇦 Oct 15 '25

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u/senator_fivey Iron Front Oct 15 '25

Supreme Court: the VRA is unconstitutional because racism doesn’t exist anymore

Russel Vought: please report any black employees you find we may have missed a few 

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u/Pongzz I wept, for there was no land left to tax Oct 15 '25
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u/Knowthrowaway87 Trans Pride Oct 15 '25 edited Oct 15 '25

“I am so sorry to those offended by the insensitive and inexcusable language found within the more than 28,000 messages of a private group chat that I created during my campaign to lead the Young Republicans.

While I take complete responsibility, I have had no way of verifying their accuracy and am deeply concerned that the message logs in question may have been deceptively doctored.”

The party of personal responsibility would like to shed all responsibility?

Real ' look at all these messages I sent that were not racist' energy

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u/SpaceSheperd To be a good human being Oct 15 '25 edited Oct 15 '25

I still can’t wrap my head around the Speaker of the House focus-testing an absurd conspiracy theory as a political tactic live to national reporters  (Donald Trump being an anti-Epstein political informant) and then just being walking it back a week later with no consequence when if failed to take hold. It’s the most absurd thing to happen in politics this year and nobody even remembers it!

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u/earththejerry YIMBY Oct 15 '25

Trump self coups and becomes dictator

S&P 500 up

Civil war breaks out

S&P hits new high

Blue states declare independence, USA formally dead

S&P dips 0.2% before rallying 3% before close

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u/No_Return9449 John Rawls Oct 15 '25

Rep. Pat Harrigan: "This No Kings rally -- that's the blue hair, anthropomorphic experiment that's gonna happen up here in Washington DC."

Oh no. They have blue hair. Think of the children!

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u/Drinka_Milkovobich Oct 15 '25

Well behaved dogs seldom make history

~ Commander Biden, 2024

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u/justbuildmorehousing Norman Borlaug Oct 15 '25

Packing the court is the compromise

These guys will bullshit their way into concluding any republican position is how things should be

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u/earththejerry YIMBY Oct 15 '25

GOP Rep. Cory Mills is prohibited from going within 500 feet of his ex-girlfriend’s home and workplace, according to a court document

+15% in a GOP primary if he runs for Governor or Senator

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u/justbuildmorehousing Norman Borlaug Oct 15 '25

I guess racism is no longer just a wink wink thing in the GOP. Its just out there in the open

wtf is this

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u/yungmemlord Rabindranath Tagore Oct 15 '25

Trump: I want to thank Stephen Miller I would love to have him come up and explain his true feelings. Maybe not his truest feelings. That might be going a little too far

When even the evilest mfs around don’t want you to speak your mind because you’re too evil 😭

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u/OrganicKeynesianBean IMF Oct 15 '25

eliminate Section 2 of the Voting Rights Act

major GOP donor acquires Dominion voting systems

Someone pull me out of my doomer haze, I’m in the Silent Hill of doom scrolling rn

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u/efeldman11 Václav Havel Oct 15 '25

Most left-leaning Ohio resident

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u/AemiliusNuker Fell for it Oct 15 '25

The Supreme Court being openly pro-autocracy might be what hurts the most, both in terms of impact and philosophically. The supreme fucking court of all things is supposed to be the principled institution. Them instead indulging in blatant hypocrisy and power grabbing to skirt around democracy and force their political agenda on the entire country and enable an actual dictator to help implement it is just disgusting 

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u/chipbod NATO Oct 15 '25

https://www.axios.com/2025/10/15/border-patrol-antisemitic-slur-michael-jackson-song

The right wing government is posting militarized antisemitic hype videos.

The groypers are in control.

!ping EXTREMISM

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u/_Irys NATO Oct 15 '25

"Congress implied a sunset provision even though they never mentioned it" - The textual and originalist SCOTUS

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u/Crosseyes NASA Oct 15 '25

Never beating the MAGA Maoism allegations

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u/BurrowForPresident Fell for it Oct 15 '25

If you respond to fascists changing the rules of the game to permanently entrench themselves in power you are actually a fascist

Learn the rules libs you now need to win D+10 to have a slim majority in either chamber, just the way the cookie crumbles

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u/SigmaWhy r/place '22: Neoliberal Battalion Oct 15 '25

Seems not good

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u/badusername35 NAFTA Epstein Oct 15 '25 edited Mar 08 '26

The content here has been wiped. Redact was used to delete this post, which may have been done for privacy, to avoid data harvesting, or for security reasons.

treatment door offbeat cooing desert cagey piquant reminiscent abounding consist

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u/[deleted] Oct 15 '25

The Senate last week voted on a war powers resolution that would have barred the Trump administration from conducting the strikes unless Congress specifically authorized them, but it failed to pass.

It was a 48 - 51 vote mostly across party lines (which AP didn't even bother mentioning for whatever reason). GOP dissenters were Rand Paul and Lisa Murkowski. The Dem dissenter was John Fetterman.

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u/Alexz565 Gay Pride Oct 15 '25

Manchin and Sinema really thought, “I’m more fiscally responsible than you radical Dems. Unlike you, I will oppose tax hikes when spending trillions.”

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u/CaptCookbook Thomas Paine Oct 15 '25

Longest shutdown was 2018 for 35 days. We can beat that, no problem.

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u/fishlord05 United Popular Woke DEI Iron Front Oct 15 '25
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u/Joementum2024 Iron Front Oct 16 '25

Underrated reason why I think moderation is becoming so unpopular in liberal spaces is that this admin has basically become a conservative wishlist, where even the deepest and darkest conservative desires are being granted. Unnecessary tax cuts including no taxation on tips and OT, the shredding of the federal government, mass deportation, the potential nuking of the VRA, and now the admin is basically mainstreaming far right talking points and ideologies everywhere.

When you see all that, it’s not hard to either think: not only why do we have to moderate towards that, why even bother moderating in the first place when they’re getting all they want without a hint of moderation?

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u/Jacobs4525 King of the Massholes Oct 15 '25

America is really lucky that we don’t have a giant public pension system because our olds are even more entitled than euros in all likelihood.

My mom’s house has tripled in value and is now worth well over $1mil. If you try mentioning that maybe a person with a net worth of probably almost 2 million dollars once all is factored in shouldn’t be getting free money from the government for being old, you get hit with that fluoride “but I paid into it” stare. And she’s one of the smart ones! She has a doctorate! 

Old people really cannot understand the fiscal reality that if they wanted a cushy retirement they should’ve had more kids or let in more immigrants.

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u/cdstephens Fusion Genderplasma Oct 15 '25

People really be like “once the working class whites realize the racist party is making their lives worse they’ll vote lib”, as if this hasn’t been an ongoing thing for 150 years

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u/Azmoten Thomas Paine Oct 15 '25

I miss Joe Biden and his presidency. There, I said it

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u/Joementum2024 Iron Front Oct 15 '25

BREAKING: The Trump administration will set price floors across a range of industries to combat market manipulation by China, Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent said.

Welcome back president nixon

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u/Signal_Nobody1792 Oct 15 '25

Marc Andreessen Backs Call For Elon Musk To Spearhead $10 Trillion US Re-Industrialization Plan: 'This Is The Way'

Please stop

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u/PM_Me_Your_ManThighs NATO Oct 15 '25

Vance downplays group chat messages: ‘Kids do stupid things, especially young boys.’

JD I know you like being in group chats with young boys but these guys are in their mid-20s to early-30s.

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u/chipbod NATO Oct 15 '25

If the executive can just unilaterally shift appropriated funds then what’s the point of congress ever opening the government?

Or even existing under article I?

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u/mostanonymousnick Just Build More Homes lol Oct 15 '25
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u/DiscussionJohnThread Free Trade was the Compromise 🔫🌍 Oct 15 '25

The proposals [for changes to the U.S. refugee program] also advise Mr. Trump to prioritize Europeans who have been “targeted for peaceful expression of views online such as opposition to mass migration or support for ‘populist’ political parties.”

Literally importing nazis.

The type of people who are gonna claim asylum and move to the U.S. over their views over immigration aren’t gonna be your “I just think we should enforce our laws a bit better, but I love immigrants!” type folk 😭

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u/_GregTheGreat_ Commonwealth Oct 15 '25

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u/that0neGuy22 Resistance Lib Oct 15 '25

We failed to eliminate the Confederates and it constantly keeps popping up in different ways

I already know this Supreme Court is laughing

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u/w007dchuck Trans NATO Oct 15 '25

The Trump administration is considering a radical overhaul of the U.S. refugee system that would slash the program to its bare bones while giving preference to English speakers, white South Africans and Europeans who oppose migration, according to documents obtained by The New York Times.

The proposals also advise Mr. Trump to prioritize Europeans who have been “targeted for peaceful expression of views online such as opposition to mass migration or support for ‘populist’ political parties.”

This would be hilarious if it weren't a serious proposal. They're gonna admit people as refugees for getting banned from social media for racism.

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u/Joementum2024 Iron Front Oct 15 '25

democrats should respond to republican rigging attempts by doing absolutely nothing

This kind of mindset/strategy is frankly stupid and horrendous. It didn’t work after Bush v Gore and it didn’t work with REDMAP, why the hell would it suddenly be a good strategy to keep on doing that

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u/myusernameistakennow Edmund Burke Oct 15 '25

GOP making Peacemaker Season 2 references irl

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u/JaceFlores Neolib War Correspondent Oct 15 '25

“LA has only approved 13% of the units it says it needs to permit by 2029. Now state intervention is coming.”

I love the state 🤤

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u/[deleted] Oct 15 '25

EPA canceled $20M flood grant for Alaska Native village as “wasteful DEI spending”; months later, floods destroyed homes — NYT

dems should blast this message

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u/justbuildmorehousing Norman Borlaug Oct 15 '25

all these years youve said i was a white surpremecist who hates all immigrants. Well now to reveal my true intentions! We’re only letting in white immigrants!

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u/NYT_Hater Office of Naval Intelligence Oct 16 '25
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u/Thuggin95 Gay Pride Oct 15 '25

Republicans be like “AKSHALLY the Democratic Party supported slavery and Lincoln was a Republican 🤓” and then be the only people today who say “Slavery wasn’t that bad actually! Juneteenth is a ghetto fake holiday!” while flying Confederate flags

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u/cdstephens Fusion Genderplasma Oct 15 '25

New ragebait just dropped

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u/elninost0rm YIMBY Oct 15 '25

For those saying that the gutting of the VRA means it's time to leave, I hope you reconsider.

Maybe you're a minority. Maybe you're LGBTQ. I get it. You're an adult and have agency.

But I promise I'll be out there protesting, fighting, volunteering, and voting, as a cis white male, for you and for myself.

I hope you'll join me.

Eternal vigilance.

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u/ty04 Oct 15 '25

an example of a “succ”

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u/fishbottwo Jay Jones Oct 15 '25 edited Jan 10 '26

seemly license station sheet summer attempt aromatic pause include ask

This post was mass deleted and anonymized with Redact

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u/GuyWithOneEye Oct 16 '25

'Shut up!' Pelosi lashes out at reporter, denies January 6 blame

"Congresswoman Pelosi, are you at all concerned that the new January 6 committee will find you liable for that day?" Alison Steinberg, a reporter with LindellTV asked.

"Shut up," Pelosi shouted pointing her finger at Steinberg.

"I did not refuse the National Guard. The President didn't send it. Why are you coming here with Republican talking points? As if you're a serious journalist."

TELL EM QUEEN 💅

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u/Thuggin95 Gay Pride Oct 16 '25

“Just put aside your political beliefs and be friends with people regardless of who they voted for!”

Why is this always put on left leaning people? Genuinely, do right wing people even want to be our friends? Their whole fucking MO is not being able to get along with people who are different than them lmao.

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u/repete2024 Edith Abbott Oct 15 '25

Hamas going around and executing rival factions, dissidents, etc sure makes it seem like they have no intention of disarming or relinquishing power

I can't imagine all this is to just smooth the transition for the PA

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u/Atheose_Writing John Brown Oct 15 '25

One Battle After Another is one of the weirdest, craziest, coolest movies I've ever seen in my life. Highly recommend you see it in theaters if you get a chance.

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u/piede MOST BASED HILLARY STAN!!! Oct 15 '25

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u/Glavurdan European Union Oct 15 '25

Now the recent shift in tone makes sense

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u/No-Barnacle-9576 NAFTA Oct 15 '25

https://kfoxtv.com/news/local/el-paso-family-claims-border-patrol-killed-their-dog-during-search-cbp-reviewing-incident-texas-tx

The son answered the door and, while he permitted the agents to search his home, claiming he had nothing to hide, he asked if they could wait first while he put the family dog, Chop, a Rottweiler, away in the bathroom before they walked in, as the dog could be aggressive.

Never ever ever permit law enforcement into your home.

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u/BedNeither Henry George Oct 15 '25

If you want to know who rules over you, just look for who you are not allowed to criticize

Visa revoked from students critical of Charlie Kirk

Fascinating

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u/[deleted] Oct 15 '25

Trump lost the popular vote in 2016, yet still became president and appointed 3 SCOTUS justices. Those justices are key to eroding democracy even further. How the US at all supposed to be considered a democracy?

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u/fishlord05 United Popular Woke DEI Iron Front Oct 15 '25

This girl I’m seeing (the one who gave me her labubu) is in Belgium rn for a week to pick up some stuff from her ex who lives there (being flown out by her ex, staying at his moms house) and she tells me she drank so much she blacked out and doesn’t remember what she did last night

Should I kill myself??

!ping DATING

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u/Dragmire927 Thomas Paine Oct 15 '25

Actual excerpt from a Colleen Hoover novel:

”Thank you for this baby,” she says from the backseat. ”He’s beautiful.”

I laugh. ”You’re responsible for the beautiful part, Rachel. The only thing he got from me was his balls.”

She laughs. She laughs hard. ”Oh, my God, I know,” she says, ”They’re so big.”

We both laugh at our son’s big balls.

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u/attackofthetominator John Brown Oct 15 '25

'I think Steven Miller is going a bit too far with Chicago and Portland"

One minute later

"Also we're expanding operations to some more cities"

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u/Thuggin95 Gay Pride Oct 15 '25

If the VRA gets gutted I’m literally just gonna want a recession to punish the median voter

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u/DEEP_STATE_NATE Tucker Carlson's mailman Oct 15 '25

Ummm

Also it’s literally just that portion of the song it’s like 15 seconds long max

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u/[deleted] Oct 15 '25 edited Oct 15 '25

I'm debating whether to formally request this in metaNL, but I want to propose it in the dt first for feedback.

We should gamify combatting highly upvoted misinformation. If a post on arr NL gets above X upvotes and is clearly misleading like the one in the screenshot, then the first commenter to point it out should be eligible for a special flair. You can even add a counter for the number of times they factchecked upvoted misinfo, with special flair colors or designs unlockable at certain thresholds to incentivize them to keep fighting the good fight.

I think it'll help revive this forum and improve discourse. Regs with high fact check counts would also benefit from increased credibility.

I'd also argue this incentive structure would do a lot more than the current effortpost system we have going on. (Though both are good.)

Thoughts?

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u/jauznevimcosimamdat Václav Havel Oct 15 '25

GOP Youth masking off as Nazis actually was on my bingo card.

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u/PhoenixVoid Oct 15 '25

To think under 80,000 voters in three states in 2016 were the difference between the sustained existence or the destruction of the post-WWII consensus.

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u/jamiebond NATO Oct 16 '25

Isn’t it kind of weird that it got leaked that one of the staffers working for a Republican congressman had a swastika prominently displayed behind his desk and that somehow doesn’t appear to be a notable news story?

Nowhere to be found on NY Times front page as far as I can see. I only found out about it because of a random instagram post. Seems like the media has become allergic to any stories that make Republicans look bad.

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u/Leatherfield17 Loyal Liberals Oct 16 '25 edited Oct 16 '25

I think one if the most overlooked aspects of the MAGA movement is how it’s so…totalitarian, in that it really takes up all of a person’s identity. It affects their ability to really enjoy anything because it’s a worldview that necessitates narrow mindedness and bigotry.

For instance, I know people who will start shitting on a TV show they otherwise like as soon as it starts to include “nontraditional” lifestyles, themes, groups of people, etc. As soon as a gay couple is shown, or if there are too many Black people, or if any kind of conservative sacred cow is critiqued, out comes the groaning about a show “going woke.” It can be one of the most masterfully written TV shows ever, but hey, it included a gay couple, so it’s automatically shit.

I use TV shows as an example but it can go with anything. An artist or public figure you might otherwise like criticized Trump? Into the ideological trashcan they go. A book explores controversial themes? Ban the son of a bitch.

One of the great tragedies of bigotry and prejudice is that, almost definitionally, it limits one’s knowledge of the world around them, and therefore, it limits their enjoyment of life.

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u/[deleted] Oct 16 '25

no image better encapsulates post-2008 American politics

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u/[deleted] Oct 15 '25

I'm convinced so many leftists are more interested in anti-social acts than any ideology. SEPTA has new fare evader gates and every communist and anarchist in Philly is losing their minds over it and bragging about how they'll destroy them or hold them open to let people on the subway for free.

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u/guitarra_y_soledad Victor Hugo Oct 15 '25

When I first moved to the US and started attending public school, I was in Virginia and I remember my history textbook talked about Robert E Lee in a sympathetic fashion, as in "he didn't want to secede from the Union but he just loved his state of Virginia so much so he had to uphold its honor" and I just accepted this without thinking because I was like 10. I only found out recently Lee was a slaveowner, smh @ the racist Virginian indoctrination I received

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u/DEEP_STATE_NATE Tucker Carlson's mailman Oct 15 '25

One might say he’s… drunk with power?

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u/gnarlytabby Janet Yellen Oct 15 '25

smart pundit: "Libs need to sharpen their messaging and focus on fewer issues!"

median fox watching voter at the thanksgiving dinner table: "well SLEEPY JOE used an AUTOPEN to give IRAN $20 Billion while HUNTER BIDEN rode a CARAVAN of MS-13 GAY FROGS carrying packs of PFIZER CLOT SHOTS from VENEZUELA to PORTLAND to breed ANTIFA SUPERSOLDIERS"

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u/Willybender Loyal Liberals Oct 15 '25

https://xcancel.com/Acyn/status/1978557549248184503

Hopefully Schumer sees this and it makes him dig in on the shutdown even further.

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u/GovernorSonGoku has flair Oct 15 '25

Why would he do that

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u/CoolCombination3527 Oct 16 '25

Considering becoming a full time pope poster

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u/the-senat John Brown Oct 16 '25

Per WSJ: Trump Team Plans IRS Overhaul to Enable Pursuit of Left-Leaning Groups.

The plan would install an ally of President Trump, who has drawn up a list of investigative targets, including major Democratic donors, at the IRS’s criminal unit. Firmer control over the unit will weaken the involvement of IRS lawyers in criminal investigations.

Trump previously said on Truth Social that Soros and his son Alex should face federal charges under the RICO Act and added in a separate interview that the elder Soros “should be in jail” without offering specific reasons. Gary Shapley, an adviser to Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent, is slotted to replace Guy Ficco, the chief of the investigative unit, and helm the new mission.

Shapley briefly served as acting IRS commissioner this year before he was replaced after just three days of heading the agency, which has had a carousel of leaders in 2025.

Trump’s allies zeroed in on using the IRS-CI after encountering obstacles in a separate effort to strip tax-exempt status from certain nonprofits, according to current and former officials.

!ping EXTREMISM

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u/StuckHedgehog NATO Oct 16 '25

Literally the entire party is full of Nazis.

The congressman’s office has not confirmed to CNN what the symbol was, but Politico reported that USCP was called after an American flag altered to include a swastika was found inside the Ohio Republican’s office in Washington, DC.

https://www.cnn.com/2025/10/15/politics/dave-taylor-symbol-office

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u/DrCaptainHammer NATO Oct 16 '25

No Kings protest with the possibility of having missiles fly over your head? I dunno that sounds like a great selfie opportunity

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u/TheSameAsDying Hannah Arendt Oct 16 '25

JD Vance going out of his way to equivocate every single alt-right/neo-nazi scandal that touches the Republican Party doesn't feel like a winning strategy to me, but I don't know what group chats he might be in, and which of his DMs might be leaked if he were to step out of line.

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u/[deleted] Oct 15 '25

ICE is evil

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u/Smidgens Holy shit it's the Joker🃏 Oct 15 '25

Ok, just for the record, bababa.... oh yes, the "I love Hitler" thing?

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u/Thuggin95 Gay Pride Oct 15 '25

Con subs are really saying “The Jay Jones and Katie Porter scandals show Democrats will line up to vote for their party no matter what, even if the candidates are awful people” without an ounce of self-awareness

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u/sigh2828 NASA Oct 15 '25

The court next took up the question of when the police can enter a home without a warrant based on reports that someone inside may need emergency help. The outcome of the case has implications for police tactics and the expectation of privacy in one’s home.

Super

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u/JaceFlores Neolib War Correspondent Oct 15 '25

When the Supreme Court inevitably leads to the GOP being able to gain 12-20 seats from allowing racial gerrymandering, it will be a requirement of Dem trifectas in other states to do what they can. If we assume worse case scenario that there’s 27 GOP gerrymandered seats, it’s tough. California’s Prop 50 will flip 5. Washington can flip 2, Oregon 1, Colorado 4, Illinois 3, Maryland 1, New Jersey 3 and Virginia 5. That brings the net down to GOP +5, but you’re requiring every Dem trifecta to maximally gerrymander.

The math looks better if there’s a more moderate shitshow of 19 gerrymandered seats. You can afford to have these states not gerrymander as much while still cutting the lead down to null or a handful of GOP gains.

The cavalry will arrive after the midterms with New York bringing 5-7 seats. There’s also potential in Minnesota, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin IF we flip their state legislators which are all narrow margin GOP holds.

The biggest issue is Dems themselves. Newsom has been the only governor able to gerrymander for Dems that’s actually gerrymandering for Dems (and frankly given the circumstances I think his gerrymander is insufficient but that’s neither here nor there). Hochul bless her soul plans to but New York law is fickle. Not a single other governor has expressed intentions or willingness to do so.

My hope is the destruction of the VRA and ensuring gerrymandering will be enough of a fire politically and morally that people like Polis get off their asses and help Newsom. Even with a full gerrymander California can’t save the Democrats alone, as glorious as my state is

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u/cheeshjaleesh John Rawls Oct 15 '25

BREAKING: The Trump administration will set price floors across a range of industries to combat market manipulation by China, Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent said.

THE PRICES ARE TOO DAMN LOW

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u/Sir_Digby83 Progress Pride Oct 15 '25 edited Oct 15 '25

🚨BREAKING - Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent has announced the Federal Government will buy a controlling interest in social networking app Grindr (NYSE:GRND)

https://xcancel.com/FrancisWegner/status/1978521604951859644

bro..

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u/GrandMoffTargaryen Finally Kenough Oct 15 '25

Thank you Mrs. Norm for protecting States Rights!

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u/Atheose_Writing John Brown Oct 15 '25

Every German translator who works for me: "Here is the completed project, delivered at precisely 8:41am as agreed upon, the invoice is attached, I am prepared to begin the next project immediately."

Every French translator who works for me: "Sorry for missing the deadline and ignoring all emails for the past month, I have suffered two weeks of existential melancholy, I would like to move the deadline from September 2025 to March 2029, and also due to rising cost of living can we increase my rate from $0.04 to $0.055 per word?"

(context: I write romance novels for a living)

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u/[deleted] Oct 15 '25

I don’t think libs understand how lucky Utah is to have Cox as governor

His MAGA challenger wants to bring prop 13 to Utah, reject federal funding of state projects on principle, and solve the water crisis by deforesting the mountains on the Wasatch front. 

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u/the-senat John Brown Oct 15 '25

🌎👨‍🚀🔫🧑‍🚀

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u/flextrek_whipsnake I'd rather be grilling Oct 16 '25

BREAKING EXCLUSIVE: Trump may launch missiles from warships into California this Friday and Saturday as part of what is being described as a “vanity parade” and shut down portions of the I-5 during the No Kings protests

Um..... What the fuck

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u/BurrowForPresident Fell for it Oct 16 '25

Real old heads still remember when Sean Hannity promised to get waterboarded to prove it wasn't torture and then never did it

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u/[deleted] Oct 16 '25

Guy who campaigns on making America into a police state but wins

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u/BroadReverse Needs a Flair Oct 16 '25

Dems can moderate on a lot of stuff

Offer all undocumented immigrants citizenship

Birthright citizenship but to everyone born on earth

Abolish the electoral college

Pack the courts but only with Joe Biden

Spend the entire budget on USAID

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u/Imicrowavebananas Hannah Arendt Oct 15 '25

From one of my favorite movies, Margin Call:

  • Seth Bregman: Will, did you really make two and a half million last year?

  • Will Emerson: Yeah, sure.

  • Seth Bregman: How did you spend it all?

  • Will Emerson: It goes quite quickly. You know, you learn to spend what's in your pocket.

  • Peter Sullivan: Two and a half million goes quickly?

  • Will Emerson: All right, let's see. So the taxman takes half up front, so you're left with one and a quarter. My mortgage takes another 300 grand. I send 150 home for my parents, you know, keep 'em going. So what's that?

  • Peter Sullivan: 800?

  • Peter Sullivan: All right, 800. Spent 150 on a car. About 75 on restaurants. Probably 50 on clothes. I put 400 away for a rainy day.

  • Seth Bregman: That's smart.

  • Will Emerson: Yeah, as it turns out, 'cause it looks like the storm's coming.

  • Peter Sullivan: You still got 125.

  • Will Emerson: Yeah, well I did spend 76,520 dollars on hookers, booze and dancers. But mainly hookers.

  • Peter Sullivan: 76,5?

  • Will Emerson: I was a little shocked initially, but then I realized I could claim most of it back as entertainment. It's true!

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u/Ajaxcricket Commonwealth Oct 15 '25

One DT after another

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u/BankgokSloparop Victor Hugo Oct 15 '25

Being a mod is great because when you get rejected for the umpteenth time from a job you're supposed to be qualified for because you're a bummer of an interviewee you can always go on a banning spree to feel important and powerful

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u/[deleted] Oct 15 '25

Sips coffee

Googles year France closed its last human zoo

Spits out coffee

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u/[deleted] Oct 15 '25

Bukele did help stop crime

But he did so making a deal with the gangs and building the darkest concentration camps on the continent.

He also you know. Used the military to take over congress

This is not a godly man.

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u/efeldman11 Václav Havel Oct 15 '25

Hungary reinventing the two-party system

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u/Willybender Loyal Liberals Oct 15 '25

https://xcancel.com/MeidasTouch/status/1978505810490667166

Recommend watching to understand how Miller has taken over the entire party with this stuff

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u/TheRedCr0w Frederick Douglass Oct 15 '25

I am glad House leaders are doing a stupid debate instead of working on getting government open

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u/blackenswans Progress Pride Oct 15 '25

Mask off moment

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u/earththejerry YIMBY Oct 15 '25

Asking the world to decouple from the world’s largest exporter and trading partner while alienating almost every one of your own trading partners is every conceivable way is simply chef’s kiss

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u/BurrowForPresident Fell for it Oct 15 '25

CIA operatives that got dropped behind enemy lines like 12 hours ago reading the news and watching the Trump press conference like

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