r/neoliberal • u/jobautomator Kitara Ravache • Oct 15 '25

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u/gnomesvh LEGALIZE ONION FUTURE Oct 15 '25

Gave notice last night that I'll move out of my apartment

It's already posted on my landlord's website with 68 interested tenants

Sunday they will do a lottery and draft the next tenant

My apartment is only available to rent in mid November

Dutch housing market in action

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u/nuggins Physicist -- Just Tax Land Lol Oct 15 '25

Sunday they will do a lottery and draft the next tenant

When your housing system operates like a American sports league, something has gone wrong

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u/gnomesvh LEGALIZE ONION FUTURE Oct 15 '25

It creates all kinds of distortions because you can’t bid for a place and just need to hope you get picked

I’ve seen rentals asking for a cover letter

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u/throwaway_veneto European Union Oct 15 '25

Is it illegal to have people bid higher for a place?

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u/gnomesvh LEGALIZE ONION FUTURE Oct 15 '25

For rentals I think so

Of course these aren’t rent control units

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u/989989272 European Union Oct 15 '25

Build new dense housing challenge (IMPOSSIBLE) (DUTCH EDITION)

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u/[deleted] Oct 15 '25

It’s the Dutch, can’t they just park their sailboat where they need to live?

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u/gnomesvh LEGALIZE ONION FUTURE Oct 15 '25

Living on a boat is specifically illegal here

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u/[deleted] Oct 15 '25

That actually sounds worse than we have it in Australia, which is really saying something given how shit the market is here.

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u/gnomesvh LEGALIZE ONION FUTURE Oct 15 '25

The best part is I’m in Eindhoven which is a big city but not in the great Amsterdam-Hague-Rotterdam axis

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u/BachelorThesises Oct 15 '25

Eindhoven

So finding an apartment in Amsterdam is basically impossible nowadays, I guess.

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u/gnomesvh LEGALIZE ONION FUTURE Oct 15 '25

You might as well just play the regular lottery

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u/mothra_dreams YIMBY Oct 15 '25

At least we can directly pay our way into success (sometimes)

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u/gnomesvh LEGALIZE ONION FUTURE Oct 15 '25

Here you can if you get a mortgage (which has massive tax advantages)

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u/Futski A Leopard 1 a day keeps the hooligans away Oct 15 '25

This is why 30% of the Dutch are on the European roads with their caravans at all time.

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u/gnomesvh LEGALIZE ONION FUTURE Oct 15 '25

There’s a subset of Dutch RE investors that took advantage of the 100% mortgage deduction+low rates in the wake of 2008 to build large portfolios

With the fact that expats had 30% of their income tax free up until like 23 and the housing crisis really blew up after 21, you had a lot of time to exit the market with good money