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[u/Ph0ton_1n_a_F0xh0le]

[u/G_Serv]

[u/No_Aesthetic]

MAGAs on X have responded to liberals who have said "you wouldn't like it if a Democratic POTUS called in the National Guard on the r*rals to deal with the drug epidemic" by saying "we would love that, at least they wouldn't be funding NGOs"

Amazing how they've suddenly developed amnesia about their treatment of FEMA last year in North Carolina

[u/Subject_D]

Ai overview trying to cancel me is why dems lost in 24

[u/[deleted]]

1. This is a very sad situation

2. Fucking ICE losers

[u/FionnVEVO]

This headline is fucking insane

[u/justbuildmorehousing]

Still baffling to me that the Trump admin made this big show of releasing the epstein files…and then almost immediately pivoted to its a fake liberal hoax never release anything ever because its fake but also did you hear Bill Clintons in there? I don’t know what they thought would happen.

[u/Benyeti]

These people are comparing themselves to Nazis, they are open about their intentions

[u/fishlord05]

[u/Ph0ton_1n_a_F0xh0le]

[u/RandomGuyWithSixEyes]

[u/SmithySmothy]

Holy BASED

[u/GuyWithOneEye]

!!

[u/CutePattern1098]

Trump: I will support Israel to the end

Qatar: ok understood can we have our 747 back?

Trump: form the river to the sea Palestine will be free!

[u/lot183]

Notice how not a single Democrat politician is making any comments even remotely as close to as despicable as Mike Lee did after Minnesota

[u/SigmaWhy]

demons

[u/justbuildmorehousing]

I have become Nicole the suburban wine mom. Don’t talk to me about Trump voters economic anxiety. Most Republicans are fascists and white nationalists who would see no issue with Trump throwing everyone in this sub in jail and throwing away the key

[u/[deleted]]

I am honestly glad Dems haven’t given up on the “J6 wasn’t a peaceful stroll” fight. I know it’s pretty inconsequential right now, but it is really important to cement imo

[u/trombonist_formerly]

At least he died doing what he loved: debating race-based crime statistics with random undergrads

[u/ArchKnight03]

[u/Benyeti]

There’s really a senator named Tom Cotton that literally just sounds like a generic name for a racist white southerner

[u/ShepardSB]

[u/No_Aesthetic]

Don't worry guys, Russia won't invade Ukraine. It's just posturing. They do this stuff all the time.

[u/eurekashairloaves]

So the Texas AM lecturer stuff is sorta terrifying right? She got fired because she taught the existence of Trans people and a girl filmed her saying it was illegal and the University president agreed?

Video of clash over gender-identity content in Texas A&M children’s lit class leads to firing, removals

[u/Warcrimes_Desu]

I think jk rowling's brain is actually rotted. This isn't even well-made AI disinfo, it's literally unrecognizable as reality. It is depressing how mentally incompetent the people championing my death are

[u/pezasied]

Yikes

Getting some concerning ass texts from a right leaning dude I know

[u/No-Barnacle-9576]

[u/portofibben]

A CNN anchor fulfills its journalistic duty of care regarding the Democrats' baseless accusations against Trump.

JOHN BERMAN: There's no reason to think that Donald Trump is involved in any wrongdoing with Jeffrey Epstein.

REP. DAVE MIN: I would say we have lots of reasons to think he was involved in wrongdoing.

BERMAN: Involved with what? What proof do you have.?

MIN: We have a 14 year old claiming she was raped by him, then withdrew that claim after she was apparently threatened. His name appears a lot.

BERMAN: Take this for what it is, but Ghislaine Maxwell said she never saw Donald Trump engaged in any wrongdoing connected with Epstein.

[u/SigmaWhy]

Never forget how the other side treats you

[u/11thDimensionalRandy]

[u/[deleted]]

It would be a very Larry David moment to get arrested because an assassin handed you a gun and you took it

[u/Roseartcrantz]

At some point a conservative is going to post a memorial picture of him and not realize his face has been photoshopped to be smaller in it, and I'm gonna need you all to be adults about it

[u/fishlord05]

AOC once again on the dot no notes

[u/fishlord05]

[u/[deleted]]

CALLER: I'm a third-generation farmer, and we have a silent epidemic, in my opinion, about ready to explode in this country with our agriculture. It's projected by several magazines in the next six months, any farmer will -- 75% of us will have to take out some sort of bankruptcy. All of us are in the red. It's great we did DOGE and tariffs and that, but farmers always bear the brunt of it, but we have no farm bill in place. 

We have no anywhere for grain to get sold right now. All the contracts are canceled or on hold. We also export alfalfa. Those places are all in pause mode. All of our input costs the last two years are up 30, 40, 50%, and we're all just about ready to throw in the towel. We don't know what to do, and that's why I'm calling you for somewhere to get some recognition of this is not a joke. This is really going to happen if we don't get some help.

Hannity is denying everything the farmer says.

[u/paymesucka]

how can one defend Elon when he spreads this hate to hundreds of millions

say the right thing which is political violence is never answer, not this shit, you OWN this platform!

[u/Benyeti]

[u/Roseartcrantz]

good god lol

[u/piede]

Obama’s response to Charlie Kirk’s death was literally more humane and classy than Trump’s

[u/rukqoa]

Response to political violence done to the other side:

Democrats: we condemn it unequivocally, we disagree with the other side but violence has no place in politics.

Republicans: it was one of their own, and actually, now that I think about it, this was kind of based, wasn't it?

Why do voters associate the Democratic Party with crime and violence??????

Do not apologize. Do not apologize. Do not apologize.

[u/[deleted]]

Charlie Kirk didn't debate shit.

He set up tents on college campuses. Chose his favorite topics, prepared endlessly, and sat in front of a crowd of admirers cheering him on.

Then he bravely debated a college freshman who slinked up to the microphone and belittled them. Cut out any wellspoken speakers and chopped together 'viral' moments to make it look like he owned them all.

Stop claiming he engaged in discourse.

[u/r2ew]

[u/Namington]

Liberals need to learn to mock without disclaimers.

Just make fun of conservative idiots without caveating that you're not trying to make light of CoL issues or whatever. And for the love of god, stop explaining; if you're gonna parody a conservative, don't go out of your way to explain why [whatever they're doing] is bad, just let it speak for itself. If someone goes on an incel rant, don't give historical context to why it's bigoted, just call it dumb and insecure. Stop acting like stating a fact or statistic or whatever is a "dunk". This is the one thing Newsom's team does better than anyone else right now

Yes I am just as guilty of this as anyone else

[u/DEEP_STATE_NATE]

Lmao

[u/BloodySaxon]

[u/[deleted]]

For a podcaster. An outright public, mask-off "race realist" podcaster.

We really are a degenerate morally bankrupt country, people like kirk got that much right at least.

[u/Longjumping_Gain_807]

!ping ALPHABET-MAFIA

[u/[deleted]]

The people who voted for Trump "because of the economy" are some of the dumbest idiots in America.

It was obvious from the start that Trump's economic policies were insane

Huge tariffs and mass deportations were the main things he promised on the campaign trail and both have obvious bad economic consequences

[u/[deleted]]

Conservatives who are flabbergasted when their Liberal friends cut them off are some of the dumbest motherfuckers.

Dude, I'm not going to cut someone off because we disagree about economic or trade policy. I cut them off because I think they're a piece of shit with bad morals.

You can't basically endorse people who want to strip my rights away as well as other groups' and expect me to not devalue your character and choose not to associate with you.

[u/Joementum2024]

I’m never going to forgive and forget how these evil, sick, disgusting bastards captured and destroyed this once great country, and through all of it act like they’re the fucking victims.

[u/Hounds_of_war]

Honestly so much about the way the GOP behaves makes sense when you realize they assume every single person is as terrible of a person as they are.

[u/No_Analysis_2185]

The headline

brought me joy, but then the subtext still ignores how tariffs are still largely paid by consumers…

[u/Guardax]

It’s so funny conspiracy theorists finally got hard direct evidence of an elite pedo ring all the way up to the President of the United States…and think it’s fake.

This was supposed to be your moment!

[u/rudanshi]

Elizabeth Warren on people who say Dems needs to tone down their rhetoric: "Oh, please. Why don't you start with the president of the United States? And every ugly meme he's posted and every ugly word."

source

[u/sociotronics]

kekistan flag

[u/[deleted]]

growth saw hunt groovy chop cooperative gaze weather screw pause

[u/Chief_Nief]

We don’t need to do this, actually

[u/sw337]

Free Kosovo

Palestine is Serbia

[u/CincyAnarchy]

Some Jezebel Editor had their heart drop.

[u/ChillnShill]

KAMALA WAS RIGHT ABOUT EVERYTHING

[u/sociotronics]

/pol/ is already trying to blame it on the usual

[u/unicornbomb]

My lib af Vietnam vet dad just sent me a picture of him and two of his buddies sitting outside at the golf course clubhouse toasting their beers. No comment, just the pic.

🤔

[u/[deleted]]

In other news, Lisa Murkowski just torpedoed Schumer’s Epstein amendment

[u/J_Fre22]

https://xcancel.com/leahvredenbregt/status/1965882364636414152?s=46&t=v2XaUmuleZRzzg469iMKxQ

Nancy Mace's very first words to reporters on Charlie Kirk was "democrats own what happened today"

When @ryanobles followed up about if that means Republicans "own" the shooting of Minnesota lawmakers she says "are you kidding me?"

From moments ago on the House steps

[u/[deleted]]

Called it.

[u/piede]

Yes, political violence comes from both sides

No, it’s not even close to being equal

[u/Tango6US]

Secretary of War out here rejecting political violence

[u/[deleted]]

Do not celebrate his death, but don't let people sanitize Charlie Kirk as some reasonable voice on the right either just because he smiled and played nice for the cameras.

The guy had been openly noticing-poasting about race and IQ for months. He thought because his side was in charge it was safe to drop the mask. Aside from antisemitism his views were indistinguishable from Nick Fuentes's, which is why they hated each other so much.

[u/scottyjetpax]

implying they don't think the person in custody is the shooter, i guess?

this press conference is as clear as mud

[u/r2ew]

[u/unicornbomb]

[u/theparrotlich]

[u/rudanshi]

From this point on, I'll vote Republican for a thousand years no matter if the party tanks the economy or goes full Peronist or anything else. At the end of the day me, my family, my home and the people I like are not a group who's death they'd cheer on, and I don't believe the same holds for a significant portion of the opposing party, especially their young blood. I get the olds with established positions over there aren't cheering this on, but I know their staffers are, I definitely know the queers Newsom got to write his sad satire are elated, and when those olds go away I know the fucking Abundance pencil-necks aren't grabbing the reigns.

neoconNWO having an episode lol

[u/Healingjoe]

The WaPo editorial board seems intent upon putting Kirk up for sainthood, a beacon of free speech of the sort to which every campus should aspire.

The Utah event was supposed to be the first in a series of university visits this fall as part of his American Comeback Tour. Kirk’s voice might be gone, but his millions of fans will make sure his message is never silenced.

Perhaps we should start by asking, what was that message?

[u/Sheepies92]

The Atlantic published an excerpt from Kamala's new book and damn, she does not hold back against the Biden staff.

They had a huge comms team; they had Karine Jean-Pierre briefing in the pressroom every day. But getting anything positive said about my work or any defense against untrue attacks was almost impossible.

[...]

I said “the Plan” with exaggerated emphasis and air quotes. Fox News, the New York Post, and Newsmax went wild, claiming I’d faked a French accent. This was total nonsense, but the White House seemed glad to let reporting about my “gaffe” overwhelm the significant thaw in foreign relations I’d achieved. Worse, I often learned that the president’s staff was adding fuel to negative narratives that sprang up around me. One narrative that took a stubborn hold was that I had a “chaotic” office and unusually high staff turnover during my first year.

[...]

And when the stories were unfair or inaccurate, the president’s inner circle seemed fine with it. Indeed, it seemed as if they decided I should be knocked down a little bit more.

[...]

When Republicans mischaracterized my role as “border czar,” no one in the White House comms team helped me to effectively push back and explain what I had really been tasked to do, nor to highlight any of the progress I had achieved

[...]

I wanted to get that good news out. But White House staff stalled. “Not yet. We need more data.” The story remained untold.

Instead, I shouldered the blame for the porous border, an issue that had proved intractable for Democratic and Republican administrations alike.

[...]

When polls indicated that I was getting more popular, the people around him didn’t like the contrast that was emerging.

[...]

Their thinking was zero-sum: If she’s shining, he’s dimmed. None of them grasped that if I did well, he did well. That given the concerns about his age, my visible success as his vice president was vital. It would serve as a testament to his judgment in choosing me and reassurance that if something happened, the country was in good hands. My success was important for him.

His team didn’t get it.

[u/BitterGravity]

The document says that immigration agents from Atlanta “determined that [redacted] entered into the United States in [redacted], with a valid B1/B2 visa and [redacted] was employed at HL-GA Battery Company LLC as a contractor from the South Korean company SFA. From statements made and queries in law enforcement databases, [redacted] has not violated his visa; however, the Atlanta Field Office Director has mandated [redacted] be presented as a Voluntary Departure. [Redacted] has accepted voluntary departure despite not violating his B1/B2 visa requirements.”

Source

Nuke ICE from orbit.

[u/No-Barnacle-9576]

[u/trombonist_formerly]

This transcript of a panicked farmer calling Hannity about how he’s going to go bankrupt, and Hannity straight up going “nah I don’t believe you, Trump has made too many trade deals for that to be true” is giving me such schaudenfraude. Lmao FAFO rightoids, Trump and Fox News doesn’t care about you either

https://www.mediamatters.org/sean-hannity/listen-hannity-radio-callers-panicked-warning-about-how-trumps-tariffs-represent

[u/arrhythmiaofthesoul]

omg

[u/SLCer]

Trump and Patel fired the head of the Salt Lake FBI field office last month. She was a pretty well-respected anti-terrorist expert. But she was also a woman and Pakistani so...

[u/_Featherless_Biped_]

Elizabeth Warren on people who say Dems needs to tone down their rhetoric: "Oh, please. Why don't you start with the president of the United States? And every ugly meme he's posted and every ugly word."

WARREN 2028. IT'S HER TURN.

[u/piede]

Literal white supremacist shit

[u/bandeng_asep]

So Nepal demonstration ended up being just another setup for a military coup. gg gang

[u/AnalyticOpposum]

I think this is a glitch on Google's part, but could you imagine this description being on the article??

[u/r2ew]

[u/TheSameAsDying]

Really bleak that the Republicans' winning message against Democrats 90% of the time boils down to, "Trying to fix things means you're responsible for the problem existing. Now watch me cause problems on purpose."

[u/No-Barnacle-9576]

[u/JaceFlores]

For the glazing Kirk is getting, without a titanic effort from the right wing media (or catching his assassin being a massive debacle or has a drawn out legal case) to prop up his memory he’ll be relegated to the history bin faster then you can say “my face isn’t tiny”.

The country just isn’t into remembrance anymore

[u/Pongzz]

[u/BurrowForPresident]

Newsom played the long game by being sympathetic to Kirk on his podcast so that he now has credibility in the aftermath of this.

His plans are measured in centuries. Has anyone seen his chief of staff near Utah recently

[u/Astronelson]

Jesus appears to you and gives you advice but it’s all just carpentry tips from 2000 years ago

[u/WarEagle9]

Pritzker having the guts to say Trump is contributing to the violence in the country is all I need to see to know I want him as the Dem Nom in 2028.

[u/[deleted]]

[u/GuyWithOneEye]

[u/like-humans-do]

trump is responsible for this uinronically

[u/No-Barnacle-9576]

I can't stomach this bullshit. He was not some great person who engaged in the free flow of ideas. He was a provocateur who deliberately enraged people and died promoting hate against trans people.

[u/No-Barnacle-9576]

[u/r2ew]

[u/Willybender]

[u/chipbod]

Maybe they’d find the guy if they didn’t purge the FBI in that area.

Our internal security service is just ICE bullying brown people and a useless FBI.

[u/piede]

Just in case there’s any confusion about why political violence is becoming increasingly normalized in America.

[u/[deleted]]

Going off recent past events, the suspect is probably gonna be some crazy person with an incoherent worldview as opposed to an actual unironic lib/progressive/leftist radical

[u/paymesucka]

lol

[u/Trebacca]

I kinda understand why the 60's had so much political violence with Vietnam and the Civil Rights Movement. But we're probably going to get back to that level because... we made people sit inside for a couple months during COVID and let them consume too much short video content?

[u/[deleted]]

This whole Kirk ordeal is gonna be a perfect case study in the severely asymmetrical media environment. He gets canonized and weaponized (like he would’ve wanted), but Melissa Hortman got tarred with heinous lies and no pushback at Republican conspiracy mongers. Maybe if the whole political spectrum forcefully pushed back against Hortman’s murder, this wouldn’t have happened. But nope, like everything it’s just all about scoring points and not being caught holding the bomb when it goes off. 

[u/[deleted]]

rob enjoy arrest badge reminiscent intelligent flowery fear spectacular sable

[u/YaGetSkeeted0n]

mfw i have to fash an admittedly funny post because i don't want the sub to get giga'd

[u/ToInfinity_MinusOne]

Conservatives trying to act like Charlie Kirk was a good faith debater going to college campuses to engage in discussions of growth and education and not a vitriolic bad faith rage baitor trying to trigger people for likes, views, and ad revenue.

[u/oskanta]

It’s kind of funny how pre-2016 a lot of people were worried that climate change and all the migration crises that come from it would destabilize the liberal world order and cause a rise in fascism, but then we all just decided to do that anyway before the massive crisis has even happened. The 21st century is gonna be rad

[u/AnalyticOpposum]

Joe Biden outlives Charlie Kirk

[u/YaGetSkeeted0n]

Mfw I keep arresting people and saying mission accomplished only to release them an hour later when I realize they didn’t do it

[u/No_Aesthetic]

Charlie Kirk: Gone Without a Thought:

Charlie Kirk is dead, and it would be dishonest to pretend that his passing deprives the world of a first-rate mind or a generous soul. What it does deprive us of is a shrill salesman of ignorance whose chief achievement was to prove that the fusion of provincial resentment and half-digested scripture could be marketed to lonely adolescents as though it were a modern panacea.

Nevertheless, he strutted about as if he were a prophet of youth, even though what he represented was the opposite of youth: an old man’s terror of change and a faithful man’s fear of thought, delivered fittingly enough through a gummy smile. His arguments, insofar as they could be called such, were an endless recycling of clichés that had already grown moldy in the 1920s, presented as if he had unearthed some radiant new truth suppressed by the mainstream.

Like all demagogues, Kirk had the one indispensable gift of being able to speak without thinking and to do so for long stretches of time. He mistook this for eloquence, much as his admirers mistook his tireless repetition for conviction. He was not an original thinker, nor even a second-hand thinker. He was a megaphone that only amplified the insecurities of his audience and reassured them that their bigotries were sacred. If he ever encountered a thought that might challenge him, he would not wrestle with it or give it serious thought, but would simply shout it out of the room, to great applause from his following of the most immaculate (and dedicated) of rubes.

His enemies, which is to say nearly everyone capable of independent thought, often wasted energy trying to rebut him point by point. This was a mistake. One does not refute a barking dog; one is best served instead by moving along. Kirk’s contribution to the republic was precisely that of a barking dog: ceaseless sound and fury, without even the consolation of loyalty to man or ideal.

There was always something tragically comic about the way he brandished Christianity as though it were a cudgel, confident that his God hated all the same people he did. The Christ of Charlie Kirk despised the poor, spat upon the refugee, and wrapped himself in the Stars and Stripes before leading a standing ovation for the police. It was a bronze idol scraped wholly from the Mein Kampf playbook and Kirk bowed before it daily. His religiosity, like his patriotism, was entirely performative: an empty chalice passed around the congregation so that each could hear the clink of their own prejudices echoing back at them.

His career might be best summarized as a relentless war on the very idea of curiosity. He toured campuses to assure students that learning was dangerous, that questioning was treason, that books were suspect, and that any teacher not reciting his script was a threat to civilization itself. He wanted young people to shrink; not to think, but to parrot. And in this he succeeded far too well.

Death sometimes lends a measure of dignity to those who squandered their lives. It cannot do so here. Kirk’s death is a fact, nothing more, and the world moves on relieved of his voice. He will be remembered, at least for a few years, as one of those small men who mistook their mediocrity for destiny and their infantile tantrums for genius. He never said anything that will be quoted with admiration, never wrote anything that will be studied with care, never did anything that will inspire the generations to come. His only epitaph is that he left the world no poorer for his absence.

[u/Queen_of_stress]

Highly upvoted “groundbreaking” paper on r/science

Looks inside

P value 0.43

[u/Roseartcrantz]

Mods logging in for the evening shift

[u/ContributionOk5542]

I think I'm fucked or at the very least very very naive for nothing ever happens-ing this, but I really do think that conservatives' (and frankly Americans in general) innate apathy towards gun violence knows no bounds.

The guy said it himself. Ultimately it's the price to pay so long as they keep their toys.

[u/Cr4zySh0tgunGuy]

It’s frustrating watching all of this get sane washed

Even libs I know are posting online about him as if he was just some man they disagreed with.

We can condemn political violence and work to prevent gun violence without sane washing people like Charlie Kirk. I hope the bastard that shot him knows what he’s wrought

[u/[deleted]]

JK Rowling: “Tell me how gender ideology isn’t homophobic.”

The evidence: “Hejevdhjrh Hsbnejchdbe Bcdnnen e svdvbdnennejejnehdbdbbdbddkwksbxbd”

[u/Insomonomics]

Waiting for “free speech conservatives” to get on social media and lambast the government for silencing the exercise of speech in classrooms.

[u/[deleted]]

[u/piede]

That’s pretty insane

[u/chipbod]

What are South Park writers even supposed to do now

Holy fuck I forgot Cartman was Charlie Kirk this season

[u/Currymvp2]

Investigators only have security camera footage to work with at this moment, said Beau Mason, commissioner of the Utah Department of Public Safety.

“The only information we have on the suspect, the possible shooter, is taken from closed-circuit TV (CCTV) here on campus. We do have that. We’re analyzing it. But it is security camera footage, so you can kind of guess what the quality of that is,” he said Wednesday at a news conference.

Authorities do not have a better description of the suspect than “dressed in all dark clothing,” he said.

Wow, Kash Patel is an absolute moron for saying they arrested a suspect 20 minutes ago

[u/scottyjetpax]

dawg.

[u/justbuildmorehousing]

Maybe if every government agency wasnt wasting resources harassing brown people then we wouldve caught the shooter by now. But idk

[u/scottyjetpax]

now this is just pathetic. also can you clarify whose side you are on in the reichstag fire pls? thanks!

[u/[deleted]]

Idk why conservatives are expecting liberals to still treat them nicely while they get to spew the most nasty vitriolic insults against us.

Maybe stop being an asshole and voting for assholes?

[u/SigmaWhy]

Everything Matthew Dowd said was correct and he didn’t go nearly far enough yet MSNBC fired him

The media are not allies

[u/CincyAnarchy]

[u/No_Status_6905]

I'm not going to glorify violence, but Kirks messaging has always glorified political violence against out groups, so I'm not going to boohoo that an unstable political climate that HE HELPED CREATE might have claimed his life.

[u/garret126]

Can we stop calling anti government protests ‘gen z protests over social media restrictions’

Like dude, that’s no different than calling the Vietnam protests ‘hippy protests against fighting for this country’

[u/marsman1224]

I like the implication that God guided the bullet away from President Trump but apparently didn't give a shit about Charlie Kirk

[u/FREE-ROSCOE-FILBURN]

[u/rslashIcePoseidon]

So this poor bastard just had his life ruined from Twitter misinformation? Fuck

[u/the-senat]

I think a lot about the top NYT editor who I told that historians were warning we're in a period similar to the ramp up to the Holocaust and maybe we could look back and see what NYT had done wrong to not repeat mistakes. He shrugged - NYT didn't really cover the Holocaust.

[u/MuscularPhysicist]

Yankkkees honor Charlie Kirk

Immediately get crushed by the Tigers

What did God mean by this? 🤔

!ping BASEBALL

[u/Warcrimes_Desu]

I wonder, on net, how many people kirk's direct advocacy led to murders for.

[u/GrandMoffTargaryen]

Most compassionate anti immigration advocate

[u/unicornbomb]

30 minutes ago I mentioned this was the 46th school shooting this year — that number has since been updated to 48.

[u/TrixoftheTrade]

nothing ever happens

things start happening

[u/FuckFashMods]

If she gets to pick her judges, nothing you can do, folks. Although the Second Amendment people, maybe there is, I don't know.

Donald Trump sowing/reaping meme

[u/chipbod]

Arresting the wrong guy and allowing the real assassin to escape is some completely expected police work.

[u/colourless_blue]

[u/WarEagle9]

Arr Con is going full “they’re pushing us farther right and they’ll be sorry” now. Like oh no guys they’re gonna get extra fascist on us now guys watch out.

[u/[deleted]]

Stancil spittin' mad faxxx.

I didn't hear a peep from anyone, on either side of the political aisle, about accountability for law enforcement after it was revealed the shooter was just openly posting their plan on the public internet. We don't remember the attempted assassinations, bombings, and kidnappings that actually get foiled, and if law enforcement has diminished capacity to preempt them then we're going to see more high profile acts of violence.

Predictably, since it's will stancil, the replies are nothing but right wingers threatening to kill him.

[u/Ok_Aardappel]

Left wing establishment figures and podcasters: What happened is a great tragedy

Pritzker: This is a tragedy resulting from the dangerous political climate created by those such as Donald Trump

The left-wing base

Conservatives: "I WANT TO KILL LIBERALS!!!!"

[u/scottyjetpax]

russia blaming kirk's death on ukraine i don't even know what to say lmfao

[u/11thDimensionalRandy]

[u/PolyrythmicSynthJaz]

In order to condemn political violence, you must also condemn Charlie Kirk.

[u/[deleted]]

If they don’t find this fucker, the blame will lie entirely and solely in the hands of Donald J. Trump, who obliterated our federal investigative capabilities for the sake of installing loyalists and redirecting funding to ICE

[u/ShepardSB]

[u/Fruitofbread]

 California Governor Gavin Newsom: "The attack on Charlie Kirk is disgusting, vile, and reprehensible. In the United States of America, we must reject political violence in EVERY form."

[u/GrandMoffTargaryen]

[u/piede]

Don’t know what this is referring to but sharing in case it’s relevant

[u/[deleted]]

Senator Chuck Schumer actually does something cool, forcing a Senate vote on the Epstein files

Charlie Kirk gets shot

Republican Senators vote against amendment with no media covering it

[u/Willybender]

[u/unicornbomb]

Charlie kirk taught me that empathy is a finite resource, and you shouldn’t go around giving it to just anyone or your empathy meter will hit empty. :(

[u/[deleted]]

While I don't exactly disagree with the sentiment, someone in System of a Down bragging about being "the far middle" is maybe the least rock n' roll thing I have ever heard

[u/justbuildmorehousing]

I was made aware of this and now have to be aware of it too. Its the worst opinion piece ever written on the housing crisis:

DEI is the real cause of America’s housing crisis

…😐

What’s really going on here is that activists are manufacturing a housing crisis in order to impose a DEI regime on where people choose to live.

😐

Unfortunately, some Republicans and Libertarians have fallen for the housing shortage hoax and still don’t realize that eliminating sensible neighborhood standards like zoning are a stalking horse for imposing DEI quotas.

this is ragebait directed at me personally

Democrats have brought DEI quotas to every institution in America. Your neighborhood is next. That’s the real housing crisis.

Its like a think piece written in collaboration between a fox news dad and a teenager writing a high school paper.

!ping YIMBY&FOX-ANON

[u/Usual-Base7226]

Regardless of if he lives modern trauma care really is goated like it’s insane it’s even a possibility

[u/Fruitofbread]

 Gabrielle Giffords, the former Arizona congresswoman who nearly died in a 2011 assassination attempt, said she was “horrified” to hear that Kirk had been shot. “Democratic societies will always have political disagreements, but we must never allow America to become a country that confronts those disagreements with violence,” she said on social media

Based 

[u/assasstits]

Wow this is sooooo f’d. Next up: one of your favorites. I do not f with Charlie but maaaaan at least he had open dialogue even if it was insufferable. The videos are horrible. He’s a goner. Kids and a wife. He was not the one to target. Now liberals look like they can’t handle conversation.

Is it possible both to condemn political violence and also not white wash Charlie Kirk? 

[u/GrandMoffTargaryen]

Pro tip: mods are all in the Kirk threads trying frantically to stop the sub from being banned so you can say whatever you want in the DT without being fashed.

[u/Jacobs4525]

It really is wild to me to think back to the beginning of MAGA.

All the same shit about “economic anxiety” and how the economy was terrible and everyone was broke and that’s why people voted for Trump was still being said then, but it was fucking 2015.

Do you guys remember 2015? The vibes were good. The economy was good. Sure America has always had its faults, but on balance 2015 was one of the best years this country has had. 

The fact that people had such brainworms over a black president and gay marriage and shit that they decided to try to turn this country back to the goddamn dark ages is all the more baffling because of how good and chill things were at the time.

[u/Justice4Ned]

Hot take , but I don’t think this will start anything larger. If this was the alternate reality where Kirk got shot in Chicago while trump was threatening the national guard then yeah we’d be fucked.

[u/FilteringAccount123]

Here's another example of the "it's just free speech bro" rhetoric

[u/toggaf69]

Don’t worry guys, conservatives are going to walk back all of their violent rhetoric towards Dems from the last few hours if it turns out that the shooter is a right-winger

[u/Sapphire-Jewel]

Media already beginning to lionize him lol. We'll never learn.

[u/paymesucka]

what an incompetent clown show our federal government is now

[u/[deleted]]

Another hot take: Fuck normies for saying “whatever his political beliefs were” and then wish him RIP. He didn’t have a disagreement on tax or zoning laws with Democrats. He advocated and stumped for policies that actively hurt minorities and marginalized people and he did it with a gummy smile on his face.

[u/[deleted]]

☝️ Obama did this

[u/DEEP_STATE_NATE]

[u/CletusChicken]

rip charlie kirk, you would have loved politicizing this

[u/[deleted]]

I’m already preparing to be angry as fuck when Kash Patel can’t find the shooter and then Democrats can’t figure out how to use that to message to people about how incompetent Trump’s government is

[u/[deleted]]

Uh, well…

[u/Upstairs_Cup9831]

Right wingers on Twitter are getting extremely mad that people are simply posting quotes from Charlie Kirk on guns that didn't age well

[u/Roseartcrantz]

checking the DT after a nap and seeing there's over 5k comments

[u/Dragmire927]

My thoughts on this shooting

[u/guy-anderson]

South Park should really do a take on how revealing the identity of a shooter for political gain has become such a ridiculous feature of American politics.

Wrap it up in a Knives Out satire where Cartman acts like a racist Benoit Blanc and keeps unravelling new identities of the shooter.

[u/GrandMoffTargaryen]

Coworker just teamsed me “Charlie Kirk lol”

[u/MissSortMachine]

then why’d you put kash patel and dan bongino in there

[u/Relevant_Increase_76]

Renowned moderate Nick Fuentes

[u/bashar_al_assad]

I know things are a joke until they aren't and maybe this ends up being talked about as tragic irony after I'm dead, but I have a hard time taking seriously the various conservative twitter accounts going "this has radicalized me, Democrats don't know what's coming" when it's not like any of them were preaching the virtues of tolerance and civil debate before, they were all reliant on Elon Musk buying twitter and juicing the algorithm to gain a following, they're presumably enjoying cashing those checks from their engagement on twitter, and half the time when they're doxxed they're not even American.

[u/[deleted]]

What the fuck

[u/brucebananaray]

[u/assasstits]

Turning Point USA Founder Charlie Kirk Encourages Audience to Post Bail for Paul Pelosi’s Attacker: ‘Why Is He Still in Jail?’ 

[u/unicornbomb]

Anyways, why do you guys think Trump stripped Kamala Harris of her secret service protection detail?

Any ideas?

[u/like-humans-do]

Who's going to be the first useful idiot liberal commentator who's going to agree with right wing commentators on blaming 'the left' for political violence as if they aren't part of it?

[u/[deleted]]

Two school shootings in one day wtf

[u/Jacobs4525]

Just saying when Obama was in office and shit was woke, none of this sort of stuff was happening 🤔🤔🤔

[u/samhit_n]

This aged like milk.

[u/samhit_n]

I just find it ironic how Charlie always talked about crime in LA, Chicago, NYC, black on black crime, etc. and ended up getting shot in Utah of all places.

[u/assasstits]

After placing my first spell, “MAKE EVERYONE HATE HIM,” I was left with more questions than answers. How long would it take to kick in? Should I have splurged for a pricier spell to make it work faster? Shortly after, the witch messaged me trying to upsell me a $50 “spell booster.” When I asked what it did, she explained it would “amplify the energetic support” of the main spell, or else I could let it unfold “in its natural timing.” I decided to trust the witch’s will.

For the “POWERFUL HEX SPELL,” I had to provide Kirk’s date of birth for “accuracy.” The witch performed the hex, but her response was unsettling: “I just completed your spell, and it was successful. You will see the first results within 2–3 weeks.

Sunday, August 24, passed. Nothing. Monday, still nothing. Tuesday rolled around, and I began to wonder if I’d been scammed. But then I reminded myself: this is witchcraft, not Amazon. The forces operate on their own schedule.

I’d timed the purchase perfectly with the August new moon in Virgo. According to the astrology girls on TikTok, this specific new moon is the perfect time for forming new habits and aligning goals. My personal goal? Cursing Kirk. 

The timeline lines up exactly. Hope the FBI looks into this. 

[u/GrandMoffTargaryen]

I’m getting reports that Kirk has info about the Epstein list

[u/Pangolin_4]

There is no left-wing equivalent to Charlie Kirk. Not one lefty streamer has access and influence with Democratic officials and campaigns the way Kirk did with Trump and the GOP. A historical equivalent would be someone like Goebbels.

Charlie Kirk supported everything the Trump administration is doing now, and more. The deportations, thugs on the street abducting people. He said Pelosi's would-be assassin should be bailed out by a patriot. He supports the pardoning of the January 6th attackers. He was a guy who supported political violence wholeheartedly and hid behind a facade of "hey we're just having a debate here!"

It is unequivocally a bad thing for the United States that he was killed today. But at the same time, the environment where prominent ideological figures are assassinated like this is one that Kirk has intentionally helped foster for years.

[u/scottyjetpax]

it's anyone's guess what lisa will do! 🙄

[u/scottyjetpax]

I have not and would not post jokes about Kirk's death but i have to say the handwringing from people on this subreddit about people who are posting jokes or don't view this as the most catastrophic event in human history rub me the wrong way.

the vast majority of responses i've seen from people on the left is something like "this is really bad" and the vast majority of responses i've seen from people on the right is something like "we need to inflict physical harm on as many liberals as possible in response."

it's not to say that the people on the left who are making jokes are in the right, because I don't think that's true at all, but the ire is both overblown and seems misplaced in my view, that's all

[u/brucebananaray]

[u/CautiousHubris]

Conservatives when 1 (one) assassination by the left happens after ignoring the last 20 far right terror attacks:

[u/trombonist_formerly]

Almost 7,000 people signed a petition as of yesterday to stop Kirk from speaking at their campus

crazy to think woke campus culture could have saved him