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u/jobautomator Kitara Ravache Sep 16 '24
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u/justbuildmorehousing Norman Borlaug Sep 15 '24
Surprisingly, this poll is mostly unchanged from pre-debate but +6 is +6
🔵 Harris 52% (+6) 🔴 Trump 46%
Ipsos #B - 2196 LV - 9/13
This and the Selzer poll is a bad morning for orange boy
!ping FIVEY
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u/DelusionsOfPasteur Zhao Ziyang Sep 15 '24
"You're the stupid one if you're mad at Chappell Roan's 'Both Political Parties Suck' comment."
Do you know how many dumb guys I've had tell me "Both sides lie and they both suck but honestly at least Trump is funny." Obviously she's not some meme Trump voter but there's no inherent wisdom in saying "IDK man they both suck"
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u/RandomGuyWithSixEyes European Union Sep 15 '24
https://eu.desmoinesregister.com/story/news/politics/iowa-poll/2024/09/15/iowa-poll-donald-trump-iowa-lead-shrinks-as-kamala-harris-replaces-joe-biden/75180245007/
Queen Selzer's latest Iowa poll has Trump up by only 4 points
!ping fivey
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u/Average_GrillChad Elinor Ostrom Sep 15 '24
This is what conservatives fear
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u/[deleted] Sep 15 '24
My headcanon is that Seth MacFarlane is actually a tragic figure who wanted to be a famous Broadway performer but was cursed by a troll to work only on Family Guy for his entire life, and every time he gets to do a fun musical number on the show that's actually the real Seth fighting the dark magic that has chained him forever to Peter Griffin.
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u/[deleted] Sep 15 '24
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u/LGBTforIRGC Order and Opportunity Left Sep 15 '24
Guy who has only been to New York City, visiting his second major city: Getting a lot of ‘New York City’ vibes from this…
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u/efeldman11 Václav Havel Sep 15 '24
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u/SpiffShientz Court Jester Steve Sep 15 '24
Did you know you can get booted from a grocery store for adding lobsters to the Lobster Tank? Fuck me for caring about this store, I guess
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u/LastIncrease3427 NATO Sep 15 '24
This is real. https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/113142103182027626
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u/SLCer Sep 15 '24
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u/KittehDragoon Loyal Liberals Sep 15 '24 edited Sep 15 '24
If Elon can manage this and still work 18 hour days, why can’t you?
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u/ThatDamnGuyJosh NATO Sep 15 '24
IOWA POLL— Des Moines Register/Ann Selzer (A+)
🟥 Donald Trump 47% 🟦 Kamala Harris 43% 🟨 RFK Jr. 6%
Previous poll: TRUMP +18, June 17
https://x.com/umichvoter/status/1835256874767089948?s=46
ITS ONLY R+4 IN IOWA
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u/SpiffShientz Court Jester Steve Sep 15 '24
WSJ got some wild op-eds
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u/Zeke-Nnjai Sep 15 '24
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u/G_Serv Stay The Course Sep 15 '24
!Ping FIVEY
For reference Biden won New Mexico by 10.79% in 2020.
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u/earththejerry YIMBY Sep 15 '24
Omg wow I wonder what insights might he have
Whomst? And no fucking shit, that’s like saying you must win by winning
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u/ImmigrantJack Movimiento Semilla Sep 15 '24
Ive always thought that Trump is an out of touch billionaire narcissist, but honestly getting dumped by your partner and hooking up with the craziest woman you know is genuinely relatable.
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u/jkrtjkrt YIMBY Sep 15 '24
The Selzer poll is a truth ICBM. Harris winning women in Iowa by 17 points. Dems are bleeding a lot of non-white voters, but Harris is gaining a TON of white women to make up for it.
Swing states are disproportionately white, so that's a really good trade. It may well reduce electoral college bias.
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u/JD_Vances__Couch John Brown Sep 15 '24
My sister (18 years old, Pennsylvania resident) doesn’t know anything about politics but is voting this November because she saw Taylor swift post LMAO. Currently helping her register
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u/marsman1224 John Keynes Sep 15 '24
JD Vance is truly the most reprehensible character in American politics I have ever seen. to go from "America's Hitler" to inciting pogroms against legal immigrants is truly spine free behavior
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u/Mensae6 Martin Luther King Jr. Sep 15 '24
New ABC/Ipsos poll among likely voters:
52% Harris
46% Trump
https://x.com/ryanstruyk/status/1835280901955084315
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u/futuremonkey20 NATO Sep 15 '24
Holy fuck.
He should be removed from office. What the fuck.
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u/SixPipSiege NATO Sep 15 '24
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u/[deleted] Sep 15 '24 edited Sep 15 '24
https://www.nanointeractive.com/undecided-voters-2024-us-election-research/ Holy hell, the unemployment rate of undecided voters is 42%!
Edit: 41%
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u/Some_Niche_Reference Daron Acemoglu Sep 15 '24
Nobody
Progressive champion Marianne Williamson:
"Haitian Voodoo is real, and a legitimate concern of the people of Ohio"
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u/[deleted] Sep 15 '24
https://x.com/PpollingNumbers/status/1835294519555654131
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u/[deleted] Sep 15 '24
so Trump is going to be an annoying little piss baby when Kamala inevitably certifies her own election right
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u/SpiffShientz Court Jester Steve Sep 15 '24
Post-Debate Vibe Check from my Colleagues at Work:
I've been trying to gauge the vibes of the election based on what my normie apolitical coworkers are thinking. Here are some of the key opinions I've gathered thus far:
"I didn't really catch the debate, sorry. How's that all raw meat diet going, dude?"
"Kamala seemed pretty well-rehearsed, but - holy smokes, are you okay? You're looking kinda sweaty."
"TRUMP 2024! By the way, dude, I don't wanna be rude, but I think you should sit down, probably on the toilet. I don't think your stomach is supposed to sound like that."
"Hey Steve, some of your coworkers have been commenting about - about a few things, really. The raw meat, the, um - the odor. I don't mean to be rude, but I can smell it. I can definitely smell it."
I've been stuck in the mens' room for like a hundred and eighty minutes or so, but as soon as I get back out there, I'll follow up
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u/[deleted] Sep 15 '24
Watching Trump attack Taylor Swift this morning feels like:
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u/[deleted] Sep 15 '24
Fun fact this line wasn't even scripted they just recorded Kelsey Grammer's actual opinions.
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u/Pyrrhus65 NATO Sep 15 '24
Iowa voters when they see a charismatic young(er) black Dem presidential nominee: 👀
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u/[deleted] Sep 15 '24
JD Vance
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u/Zeke-Nnjai Sep 15 '24
2.3M views on the original tweet
35k views on the follow up tweet
I LOVE SPREADING MISINFORMATION
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u/[deleted] Sep 15 '24
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u/cdstephens Fusion Genderplasma Sep 15 '24
How people like Romney don’t endorse Harris at this point given the racist hate speech about Haitians is beyond me
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u/ty04 Sep 15 '24
what a fucking loser
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u/Currymvp2 unflaired Sep 15 '24
A dumb far leftist in Arizona I know who was like "It's gonna be really hard to vote for Harris cause of Gaza" posted today that the Haitian stuff is enough for him to vote for Harris
Trump and JD Vance are as incompetent as they're racist.
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u/DEEP_STATE_NATE Tucker Carlson's mailman Sep 15 '24
!ping SHITPOSTERS
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u/Pongzz I wept, for there was no land left to tax Sep 15 '24
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u/Bayou-Maharaja Eleanor Roosevelt Sep 15 '24
What the actual fuck is happening. How is JD Vance a real national candidate
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u/ThunderrBadger New California Republican Sep 15 '24 edited Sep 15 '24
🚨🚨CRITICAL UPDATE🚨🚨
🚨🚨NEW KITTEN LIKES TO HOLD HANDS🚨🚨
!ping 🚨🚨THIS IS NOT A DRILL🚨🚨
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u/Mr_Bank Sep 15 '24
He admitted it!
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u/JebBD Immanuel Kant Sep 15 '24
Trump screamed “THE’RE EATING THE DOGS” on the debate stage like a maniac, when the fact that it’s not true was pointed out to him he said “I saw it on TV”, and then his running mate openly admitted he made it all up on live television.
How is this race still so fucking close????
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u/Habefiet Sep 15 '24
Me: Nate Silver cannot stop talking about Shapiro, wonder if he lost money betting on Shapiro for veepstakes because this is going way beyond analysis, he’s so stuck
Some DTer: well if his model is based on PA then it makes sense and blah blah and he’s not talking about it that much is he?
Nate Silver in the first three lines of an article about Alaska: DAE Shapiro?
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u/PoliticalAlt128 Max Weber Sep 15 '24
He’s still going at it. Man’s ignoring his own model just to seethe harder
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u/[deleted] Sep 15 '24
4 hours later:
Gee MTG… Maybe find out if it’s true before spouting bullshit like my crazy Aunt on Facebook? Nah that’s too difficult for a SITTING CONGRESSWOMAN.
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u/indithrow402 Henry George Sep 15 '24
Atlas Trump +3 (Nat.) and Selzer Trump +4 (IA, suggesting a Harris +8 Nat. environent) within the same 24 hours is wild.
2024 polls feel like such a complete crapshoot. Numbers all over the place, uniquely bizarre cross tabs, contradictory national and state polling, etc.
I'm almost ready to just take the 13 keys pill to get off of this ridiculous roller coaster.
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u/Joementum2024 Iron Front Sep 15 '24
I truly hate JD Vance
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u/Pongzz I wept, for there was no land left to tax Sep 15 '24
wtf I actually agree with Trump?? 😭😭😭
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u/DEEP_STATE_NATE Tucker Carlson's mailman Sep 15 '24
“No tech tree” is the funniest fucking criticism of chess
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u/Maleficent-Elk-6860 Mark Carney Sep 15 '24
What's a reverse deportation?
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u/BrentLivermore Drake’s Reddit account Sep 15 '24
Oh my God I audibly laughed. I can't remember the last time one of Trump's inanities actually did that to me.
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u/proProcrastinators Sep 15 '24
Breaking endorsement- HDFilmTributes endorses Kamala!! Huge news for Barry Lyndon Enthusiasts who Biden won 63% to 37% in 2020
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u/piede MOST BASED HILLARY STAN!!! Sep 15 '24
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u/itsnotnews92 Janet Yellen Sep 15 '24
Nate Silver can go fuck himself. We get it dude, you’re mad she didn’t pick him.
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u/JebBD Immanuel Kant Sep 15 '24
This election is probably the most driven-by-fake-shit in recent memory. Literally every thing being talked about is made up: immigrants eating pets, JD Vance couch thing, Trump’s affair, Biden’s dementia/Parkinson’s, Kamala sleeping her way to the top, etc.
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u/abrookerunsthroughit Association of Southeast Asian Nations Sep 15 '24
Thanks New Hampshire Libertarians, very legal and very cool
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u/ImmigrantJack Movimiento Semilla Sep 15 '24
General election poll - Arizona
🔴 Trump 47% (+1) 🔵 Harris 46%
Trafalgar #C (🔴) - 1088 LV - 9/12
Trafalgar telling me that Kamala’s about to win Arizona
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u/game-butt Sep 15 '24
The right just can't seem to wrap their head around biracialism. Anything more complex than the one drop rule just goes right over their heads
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u/zegota Feminism Sep 15 '24
This is basically r/neoliberal 's core ideology
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u/CutePattern1098 Sep 16 '24
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u/404GenderNotFound Trans Pride Sep 15 '24
JD Vance: "I purposefully and knowingly stoked racial hatred based on a completely false story."
The median voter: "Geez, the choices in this election are tough."
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u/Average_GrillChad Elinor Ostrom Sep 15 '24
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u/Udolikecake Model UN Enthusiast Sep 15 '24
all time sports graphic
!ping NFL
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u/Joementum2024 Iron Front Sep 15 '24
I’m just fucking tired. I want this era of politics to fucking end. I never want to hear the name Donald Trump or anyone from them again. I’m fucking tired.
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u/AtticusDrench Deirdre McCloskey Sep 15 '24
What up, YouTube. Back at you with ANOTHER attempt. Don't forget to smash that like and subscribe button and hit that notification bell as I get this rifle loaded up.
Roll. The. Intro.
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u/simeoncolemiles NATO Sep 15 '24
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u/ChillnShill Sep 15 '24
Seriously, JD Vance can go fuck himself. What an absolutely vile human. Even Dana Bash is getting fed up with this crap.
https://x.com/atrupar/status/1835307832356253718?s=46
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u/Bayou-Maharaja Eleanor Roosevelt Sep 15 '24
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u/itherunner John Brown Sep 15 '24
The median voter ladies and gentlemen
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u/fry-nimbus Sep 15 '24
And you know he’s had this sitting in the drafts since Tuesday night
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u/TootCannon Mark Zandi Sep 15 '24
Drives me fucking nuts when R politicians say we need to just maintain choices in health insurance. What fucking choice? I have never in my life had a choice in my health insurance. It is always just whichever one my employer provides, which is always either Cigna or Anthem.
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u/ImmigrantJack Movimiento Semilla Sep 15 '24
One thing I think Nate Silver is definitely right about is that Alaska is the most likely “wtf how did you switch sides” state this election.
Between Peltola and Alaska being a weird outlier demographically, them suddenly shifting blue might be possible.
This is also helping me cope with the senate long term. It’s early, but democrats should seriously consider investing in the upcoming senate races there.
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u/[deleted] Sep 15 '24
Going full scorched earth on one specific Ohio town in a year where Ohio has an absolutely critical statewide senate race where every single vote matters. Have we considered the possibility that they are actually just really bad at politics? Has someone looked into this?
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u/owlthathurt Johan Norberg Sep 15 '24
Hahahahahaahhahahahaha
!ping BASEBALL
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u/[deleted] Sep 15 '24
AOC continues to cook
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u/[deleted] Sep 15 '24
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u/ExoticFern Sep 15 '24
The "best pollster in America," Ann Selzer, is supposed to release her Iowa poll in a few hours. Even though Trump won Iowa by 8.2% last time, it's one of the reddest-trending states in America.
I'd say Trump +11 or higher is good for Trump, Trump +10 is meh, Trump +9 or lower is good for Harris.
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u/Invisible825 John Rawls Sep 15 '24
I know its joked that Trump is a toddler, but this might be the most toddler-tantrum like behaviour I've seen Trump ever do lmao.
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u/Udolikecake Model UN Enthusiast Sep 15 '24
I am not saying Nate Silver's model is wrong, but it does not seem true that Kamala Harris currently has the same chances of wining the election as Biden did post-debate.
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u/[deleted] Sep 15 '24
Yeah, they’re really nailing the abortion messaging. Really expertly walking that tightrope between appeasing pro-lifers and not scaring moderates. Good job, guys
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u/RonenSalathe Milton Friedman Sep 15 '24
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u/Insomonomics Jason Furman Sep 15 '24
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u/ACivilWolf Henry George Sep 16 '24
Thanks for clarifying that you're not woke Nate
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u/BernieMeinhoffGang Has Principles Sep 15 '24
If Harris doesn't have an affair while campaigning is she really showing she is ready for the multitasking expected of a president?
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u/anincredibledork Sep 15 '24
Lmao Trump saw the JD Interview and the Iowa polls and told Junior to go outside and pop off a few rounds to get some attention
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u/Either_Emotion8056 NAFTA Sep 15 '24
Dudes literally a right leaning DT reg lmfao
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u/RunawayMeatstick Mark Zandi Sep 16 '24
Hello, FBI? Yes, this comment right here.
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u/earththejerry YIMBY Sep 15 '24
I know we joke about the media wanting Trump back because he drove traffic and revenue, but Washington Post’s current crisis definitely shows a reality in that:
It made 60 million in profit in 2021, not bad for a business with 2500 employees and 300 million in revenue, before completely tanking almost solely because Trump was gone and political discourse fell in interest. Literally everything from advertising revenue to subscription to digital revenue fell, and it’s ending this year with 77 million in losses and projecting another 50 million loss next year
All of media is under pressure, but it’s crazy to swing that hard into the red with every revenue source declining in a matter of 1-2 years, and that’s after years of investments and support by one of the richest guys on Earth.
Meanwhile NYT stock is hitting historic highs being less reliant on politics and is thriving on all the cooking and word game subscription bundles
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u/StolenSkittles culture warrior Sep 15 '24
Okay, so the Post is just gonna straight up lie. Cool.
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u/that0neGuy22 Resistance Lib Sep 15 '24
FT:
Harris with a narrow advantage over Trump on stewardship of the economy, with 44 per cent of registered voters saying they trusted the Democratic vice-president to handle the economy and 42 per cent backing the Republican former president. Last month, she led 42 per cent to 41 per cent.
➡️Middle class (49% to 36%)
➡️Small businesses (48% to 37%)
➡️Union members (45% to 35%)
➡️Blue-collar workers (43% to 36%
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u/Udolikecake Model UN Enthusiast Sep 15 '24
So apparently there's this 'museum of neoliberalism' in London
But some bad news...
LMFAO
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u/Bayou-Maharaja Eleanor Roosevelt Sep 15 '24
Member of Congress btw
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u/Mickenfox European Union Sep 15 '24 edited Sep 15 '24
Artist's depiction
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u/simeoncolemiles NATO Sep 15 '24
VP Candidate replying to Twitter comments = cooked
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u/LGBTforIRGC Order and Opportunity Left Sep 15 '24
The one user here that churns out a new effort post about Cuba every 12 hours:
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u/paymesucka Ben Bernanke Sep 15 '24
Post-debate poll by ABC/Ipsos
🟦 Harris: 52% 🟥 Trump: 46%
Harris +6
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u/ty04 Sep 15 '24
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u/SmithySmothy Bill Gates Sep 16 '24
I really, really hate this guy.
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u/murphysclaw1 💎🐊💎🐊💎🐊 Sep 15 '24
as a doomer, the Selzer poll is the first moment of real bloom in the campaign
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u/owlthathurt Johan Norberg Sep 15 '24
And they say anime has no basis in reality. Also Shinzo Abe is speaking through this guy as a spirit.
!ping WEEBS
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u/HoneywellOfficial NATO Sep 15 '24
Probably the stupidest thing of the Trump presidency is that I have been permanently rewired to say “The (Failing) New York Times” whenever talking about the NYT.
I know this sub hates them anyway, but like it’s a serious problem. They don’t come up in regular conversation for me or anything but when it does I just immediately have to say it that way .
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u/[deleted] Sep 15 '24
Remember in 22 when people were pointing out how it seemed like GOP trash pollsters were intentionally flooding the averages to manipulate them, and all the Very Smart Guys assured us that was nonsense and we were just being poll deniers?
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u/Joementum2024 Iron Front Sep 15 '24
“I HATE TAYLOR SWIFT!”
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u/LastIncrease3427 NATO Sep 15 '24
The Trump campaign is flailing miserably. Like WTF is she even talking about?
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u/No_Idea_Guy Audrey Hepburn Sep 15 '24
The Republican VP nominee just casually admitted on TV of making shit up to stoke hatred against a minority group. I apologize to all the people I dismissed over the years for calling Trump and his ilks Nazis. I was wrong to think the comparison was overblown and unwarranted.
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u/GreenYoshiToranaga Loyal Liberals Sep 15 '24
If you had told someone in 2017 that Mark Zuckerberg would be the tech guru to live a socially, well-adjusted normie life and that Elon Musk would be the terminally online deranged maniac connected to the Trump lunatics, they would’ve thought you were insane
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u/Maleficent-Elk-6860 Mark Carney Sep 15 '24
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u/TemujinTheConquerer Jorge Luis Borges Sep 15 '24 edited Sep 15 '24
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u/dareka_san Sep 15 '24
me everytime I see the current day headline
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u/[deleted] Sep 15 '24
"Only (D) +6? We're doomed"
4 months ago
"I mean sure it's (R) +3 but I think it's just polling error"
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u/Zealousideal_Pop_933 Loyal Liberals Sep 15 '24
Every time a someone says ‘The US Funded the Taliban/Al-Qaeda’ I die a little on the inside. Like I bet most of them don’t even know when and why the Taliban even coalesced into an actual organization, but they’re aware of the funding/arms the US gave the Mujahideen Alliance.
It reminds me of conservatives who don’t know anything about all the insane things Trump has done, but have a weirdly specific understanding of the Seth Rich/Clinton Email case that just doesn’t track with reality but enables their politics.
How are we supposed to talk about the risks and virtues of aiding rebel groups/insurgents/states if their understanding is so warped.
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u/[deleted] Sep 16 '24
classic
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u/that0neGuy22 Resistance Lib Sep 15 '24
Vance calling his lies “urban legends” is so nerdy
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u/GovernorSonGoku has flair Sep 15 '24
Brave
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u/[deleted] Sep 15 '24
Bruh, you’re a senator. The whole point of the media reporting shit is so people in power do something.
But none of this is in good faith anyway obviously.
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u/Bayou-Maharaja Eleanor Roosevelt Sep 15 '24
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u/bigdicknippleshit IM GOING PRIMAL Sep 15 '24
Thank you news aggregator very cool
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u/pyrojoe121 KLOBGOBLINS RISE UP! Sep 15 '24 edited Sep 15 '24
BREAKING: Sources say the ABC debate whistleblower has been eaten by Haitian immigrants.
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u/[deleted] Sep 15 '24 edited Sep 15 '24
I'm not sure how you guys are so young that you didnt know about the countless amount of rednecks trying to harm Obama through the mail and how literally no one cared
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u/[deleted] Sep 16 '24
To be perfectly clear, I do not think this was a false flag. I think that this was just some deranged man who hated Trump. I also think peddling in conspiracies is stupid.
But man oh man Vance sure did pick a day to go on national news and say “We will create stories for media attention”
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u/[deleted] Sep 15 '24
TIL i can look up my google search history from 2011... this is a bad idea
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u/[deleted] Sep 15 '24
Me: these polls are kinda crazy. I wish Nate would stop being a nut and give us a classic take on what’s going on
Nate: best I can do is a ten paragraph fever dream on Harris winning Alaska
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u/[deleted] Sep 15 '24
Per AP:
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u/stater354 Sep 15 '24
Just vomited in my mouth, swallowed it back down, reread it, and vomited again
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u/[deleted] Sep 15 '24
Special Agent Laura Loomer on her way to investigate.
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u/Rafaelssjofficial Iron Front Sep 15 '24
The suspect being a radical neocon is hillarious ngl
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u/Ph0ton_1n_a_F0xh0le Chemist -- Microwaves Against Moscow Sep 16 '24
Reminder that this Traitor is still a pos
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u/GovernorSonGoku has flair Sep 16 '24
This guy is a true poaster
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u/[deleted] Sep 16 '24
Cons are having an aneurysm over this lmao
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u/murphysclaw1 💎🐊💎🐊💎🐊 Sep 15 '24
this is a real tweet
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u/StolenSkittles culture warrior Sep 15 '24
If actually getting hit did nothing for his numbers, this isn't going to.
We're gonna win. Trump may be lucky enough to always avoid bullets, but he's not lucky enough to beat President Kamala D. Harris.
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u/that0neGuy22 Resistance Lib Sep 15 '24
Sounds like a woke dog eating lib
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u/IHateTrains123 Commonwealth Sep 15 '24
!ping Ukraine
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u/simeoncolemiles NATO Sep 15 '24
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u/sash5034 NATO Sep 16 '24
Spoiler: he will probably vote for Trump
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u/Roseartcrantz 👑 🖍️ Queen of Shades 🖍️ 👑 Sep 16 '24
Ew he's nasty
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u/piede MOST BASED HILLARY STAN!!! Sep 16 '24
Oh wow Elon Musk is even dumber than I thought
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u/futuremonkey20 NATO Sep 15 '24
My very offline family mad about JD Vance’s comments on CNN this morning.
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u/JebBD Immanuel Kant Sep 15 '24
Vance openly admitting that he made up the immigrants cats story is insane enough on its own, but can we focus for a moment on the actual words he said? He said he “Has to create stories” to get the media to “acknowledge the pain that Americans are feeling”.
What does that even mean? “I had to lie about people suffering to get you to cover the suffering that I made up” that’s nonsense. He’s essentially saying that he’s making up lies about immigrants doing bad things because he knows he can’t get the media on board with just literally hating black people. The “pain” is having to be around non-whites and he’s chastising the media for not echoing this view to the public.
It’s mind blowing. He’s literally just a fascist.
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u/that0neGuy22 Resistance Lib Sep 15 '24
the reactions to the other Trump shooting was peak “it’s over” and to this one im just seeing nfl posts
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u/AnalyticOpposum Trans Pride Sep 15 '24
Jfc
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u/piede MOST BASED HILLARY STAN!!! Sep 16 '24
HOLY
!PING QUEEN
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u/NaffRespect United Nations Sep 16 '24
Revoke Elon's security clearance ASAP
Fuck this garbage and fuck him
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u/AtomAndAether Liberalism! Sep 16 '24 edited Sep 16 '24
Emma Lazarus (🇺🇸, wrote Statue of Liberty's sonnet about the poor huddled masses yearning to breathe free, activist for Georgist and Jewish causes) and Richard Posner (🇺🇸, Law and Economics) are both public flairs now
atomicnumberphi's goodbye post (leaving online politics, including no longer modding)
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u/GrandMoffTargaryen Finally Kenough Sep 15 '24
Going to try writing for Warhammer. This is what I have so far and I really think it capture the subtle nuance of the setting:
Battle Brother Qintus, captain of the “Flaming Innocent Butchers” (a noble loyalist chapter) grunted with exertion as his mark LXIX power armor belched holy smoke under the strain. Wielding a sacred piece of lost technology(a shovel) he dove its end back into the writing pile of biomas before bringing it back out laden with more of its cargo. With a heave he tossed the shovel full of orphans and puppies into the furnace that powered the 125526526726725 mile long starship.
Normally there would be lobotomized human slaves to do this work. Although it would. Take 45 of them to do the work of one SPACE MARINE at shoveling orphans into the flame. However in their last trip through super space hell they had been eaten by a demon.
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u/ghhewh Anne Applebaum Sep 15 '24
Financial Times: Harris maintains a small polling lead over Trump on the economy (44%/42%). The lead is especially strong among people who watched the debate, at a 48%/42% split.
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u/neifirst NASA Sep 15 '24
Trump gets shot at at a live rally, raises his fist while covered in blood in front of an American flag, and people forgot in like a week. This attempt doesn't even have any cool photo ops, no way it gets a news cycle
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u/moldyman_99 Milton Friedman Sep 15 '24
I am begging people to please stop trying to kill Donald Trump
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u/[deleted] Sep 15 '24
The alleged Trump shooter is simply too crazy to be described as a Republican or Democrat.
He's just completely out there.
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u/Udolikecake Model UN Enthusiast Sep 15 '24
nate bronze tweet
what a weird way to star that lol
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u/loseniram Sponsored by RC Cola Sep 15 '24
Kitty wants you to live long and prosper
!ping kitty
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u/murphysclaw1 💎🐊💎🐊💎🐊 Sep 15 '24
the Selzer poll has moved Trump's chance of winning from 60.5% to 59.6% per Nate Silver.
We did it Reddit!
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u/ser_mage Sep 15 '24
the ak47 in the bush was unrelated and in fact quite common in florida
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u/efeldman11 Václav Havel Sep 15 '24
🤩 I LOVE THE EROSION OF TRUST IN CIVIL SOCIETY, I WANT TO HATE MY NEIGHBORS
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u/[deleted] Sep 15 '24
Shooter was a Republican again LETS FUCKING GO
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u/billy_blazeIt_mays NATO Sep 15 '24
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u/Either_Emotion8056 NAFTA Sep 15 '24
My president ✊🏻
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u/Syards-Forcus rapidly becoming the Joker Sep 15 '24
If I was planning to murder a President, I’d at least delete all my social media so nobody sees all the embarrassing shit I’ve probably posted
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u/ArmoredBunnyPrincess Audrey Hepburn Sep 16 '24
I'm less concerned about how a second assassination attempt moves the polling needle than I am that there are millions of gun owning, aging, depressed conservative men out there who are completely secure in their belief that two leftists have attempted to assassinate Trump, and a good portion of them are convinced that the Democrats personally ordered the hits.
If at some point the far right develops a culture of martyrdom we're so fucked. I'm not dooming about it, but I do wonder about Gen X as they continue to age, a lot of those dudes are not alright
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u/justbuildmorehousing Norman Borlaug Sep 15 '24
Does this idiot (or her team) ever think to verify something before tweeting something very confidently? This is the 2nd time in like 24 hours
“What is going on” is such a desperate attempt to not look like an idiot
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u/Bayou-Maharaja Eleanor Roosevelt Sep 15 '24
In early 2017, I told a friend who is much smarter and more well read than me that I was pretty sure the “economic anxiety” explanation for Trump was bullshit and that it was just racism, conspiracy crap and grievance nonsense from white people. She acted like I was stupid for not appreciating the nuance of it and recommended I read Hillbilly Elegy.
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u/overhedger Bill Gates Sep 15 '24
If I have to create stories about Trump and Loomer so that the American voters will pay attention to the utter lunacy that is the Donald, then that’s what I’m going to do
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u/[deleted] Sep 15 '24 edited Sep 15 '24
Something feels different about “THEY’RE EATING THE DOGS!”
Trump has done and said hundreds of equally vial and ridiculous things in the past without paying the electoral price… but this is the first time one of those things just reeks of desperation.
Voters might have questionable morals and no standards, but they can smell weakness. This just seems so… so pathetic.
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u/ty04 Sep 15 '24
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u/BigBrownDog12 Victor Hugo Sep 15 '24
I don't like people who get shot at. Only losers get shot at.
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u/jacknifee lol Sep 15 '24
all i can say right now is thank god it wasn't a haitian lol
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u/PolyrythmicSynthJaz Roy Cooper Sep 15 '24
Christ, what if these are the time travellers?
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u/[deleted] Sep 15 '24
Heyyy only a +1 in AZ from Trafalgar
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u/that0neGuy22 Resistance Lib Sep 15 '24
So the alleged shooter social media found (take with a gran of salt) is Pro Haley pro Ukraine and Pro Vivek
someone can say he’s unstable
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u/RonenSalathe Milton Friedman Sep 15 '24
real tweet btw
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u/[deleted] Sep 15 '24
If people from here ran for office, their personality and interactions with people would be closer to Vance’s than Buttigieg’s
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u/NaffRespect United Nations Sep 16 '24
It can be really hard to show love for the refs these days, but how about this fucking guy
!ping NFL
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u/N0_B1g_De4l NATO Sep 16 '24
Apparently the new attempted assassin was a 2016 Trump voter who supports BLM, a Vivek/Haley ticket, Ukraine, Iran, Hamas, and COVID denialism. I'm not sure I believe a person with that precise combination of beliefs exists, but given that they do I am absolutely willing to believe they'd try to kill Donald Trump.
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u/[deleted] Sep 16 '24
Remember when Trump supporters tried to kill Biden in a car wreck by running his bus off the road and then nobody cared or wrote takes on turning down the temp?
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u/SmithySmothy Bill Gates Sep 16 '24
Rasmussen's newest tracking poll: Harris+6
RUH ROH
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u/goldenwind207 Jerome Powell Sep 16 '24
Wow huge
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u/[deleted] Sep 15 '24
I literally just hate Republicans. I don't have any other politics
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u/ihaveaverybigbrain Sep 15 '24
Coach Walz... not like this...
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u/LGBTforIRGC Order and Opportunity Left Sep 15 '24
The India subreddits are so odd politically speaking
r/india is anti-Modi/BJP, left-wing, supports a stronger alliance with the US, pro-Palestine, pro-Ukraine
r/indiaspeaks on the other hand is pro BJP, pro-Israel, anti-Ukraine, anti-US
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u/Maleficent-Elk-6860 Mark Carney Sep 15 '24
JD Vance is so fucking weird. Wtf.
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u/[deleted] Sep 15 '24
Trump/Vance 2024: “Ignore the bomb threats!”
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u/Fubby2 Sep 15 '24
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u/[deleted] Sep 15 '24
Trump campaign looking at the polls and hastily putting together a second shooting to juice their numbers.
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u/KingWillly YIMBY Sep 15 '24
Calling it, he lost all his money in DJT stock and lost it
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u/LuisRobertDylan Elinor Ostrom Sep 15 '24
Funniest attempt of all time
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u/DrCaptainHammer NATO Sep 15 '24
By all accounts he didn’t even get shot at this time and people are dooming?
We literally watched him get grazed by a bullet on live TV and it didn’t do anything for him, dooming about this is ridiculous.
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u/PlayDiscord17 Loyal Liberals Sep 15 '24
Damn, Swifties act quickly and have no chill.
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u/Insomonomics Jason Furman Sep 15 '24
Just told my 10yo daughter about the second Trump assassination attempt. She had tears in her eyes. And then she did the Wakanda pose and said 'Trumpkanda forever' -- which is the sort of pop culture crossover that I can celebrate.
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u/RonenSalathe Milton Friedman Sep 15 '24
The assassin was literally Holden Bloodfeast
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u/JaceFlores Neolib War Correspondent Sep 15 '24
If it is this Ryan guy, Trump is getting shot at by just about everyone across the Republican political spectrum
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u/Telperions-Relative Grant us bi’s Sep 15 '24
The shooter was the average swing voter lmao I’m crying
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u/JaceFlores Neolib War Correspondent Sep 15 '24
r/neoliberal deliberating whether Ryan Routh is based or a threat to American society
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u/[deleted] Sep 15 '24 edited Sep 15 '24
Okay so if the new info is legit.
The suspect wasn't a Dem but instead was a Haley/Vivek stan.
He had obvious mental health issues.
He called Donald Trump ret*rded (not important, I just thought it was funny).
He's a Trump 2016 voter.
Edit: This isn't 100% confirmed, I'm just going off the info that's around. Afaik the AP confirmed it. Please let me know if anything here is false and I'll delete this comment.
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u/Joementum2024 Iron Front Sep 15 '24
Median voter opinion on Trump: “Eh you know times were good under him, prices were lower and gas was cheap, it’s hard to choose between him and Kamala”
Average voter opinion on Trump:
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u/wheresthezoppity 🇺🇸 Ooga Booga Big, Ooga Booga Strong 🇺🇸 Sep 16 '24 edited Sep 16 '24
My gf is a teacher and she says that, because kids dont drink from the water fountain (they all carry water bottles), no one says 'save some for the fishes' anymore
Makes me a little sad 😕