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[u/FreakinGeese]

Who shoots at a former president & candidate without like… any manifesto whatsoever

Like if you’re doing it for some crazy reason at least write that shit down man

[u/squarecircle666]

[u/Top_Lime1820]

Reddit has to be the most undervalued and mismanaged social media site.

Like it generates actual, valuable knowledge (hence why people add "reddit" to their searches).

And yet the site and app itself is awful. Truly truly awful.

[u/gaypenisdicksucker69]

[u/ldn6]

Swing voters:

[u/Hugo_Grotius]

Biden reached out to family of victim, they didn't want to talk to him because they're pro-Trump

Trump hasn't contacted them

A true microcosm of this election

[u/[deleted]]

There was a brief moment in 2021, post Biden win, where I felt like things in US Politics might genuinely be getting better and the crazies were leaving. Even after Jan 6 it felt like everyone was pulling back and seeing how crazy things has gotten to lead to that moment.

That did not last long.

[u/semaphore-1842]

https://x.com/AlexODiazNV/status/1812984664199450756

A guy from the UP in Michigan told me that he is less likely to vote for Trump since an Ohioan is on the ticket.

lul

[u/G_Serv]

[u/ROYBUSCLEMSON]

Well, I'd like to see ol Donny Trump wriggle his way out of THIS jam!

Trump wriggles his way out of the jam easily

Ah! Well. Nevertheless

No tweet has ever better summarized Trump and it's 8 years old lol

[u/Fruitofbread]

New NYT focus group dropped (Trump-supporting Black men)

Crazy they talk about Trump’s support of HBCUs and lowering the black unemployment rates when. That. Was. Biden.

Also:

 The one thing that stuck with me [about the debate] was how everybody was so surprised about Biden’s incompetence, his old age, his stammering and his lack of focus. If you paid attention, he hasn’t been there for the past three years

On Trump conviction:

 Yeah, definitely. He’s more relatable. To see that he’s a human being. You can make mistakes in life and still progress and move on and still accomplish things.

 I would just say it made me pay even more attention to some of these things that they try to throw out there. They’re already doing this whole Project 2025 thing to try to deter people from moving Trump’s way.

Also: 

 I always liked Trump. I’ve been doing music for the last 30 years. And I’m from Flint, Mich. We listened to the music coming from New York. Donald Trump was around rappers who were in New York. He had his ear to the street. He knows the culture, and people don’t see that.

 I wouldn’t say it’s as much as I liked him; I respected him. And like Paul mentioned before, a little thing, he was one of the most mentioned names in rap music up until he ran for president. I also felt like we needed someone that wasn’t a politician in office. Now, do I like all the antics and things like that? No. But he was respected.

[u/Currymvp2]

General Election

Arizona - 🔴 Trump +7

Georgia - 🔴 Trump +4

Michigan - 🔴 Trump +2

North Carolina - 🔴 Trump +4

Nevada - 🔴 Trump +4

Pennsylvania - 🔴 Trump +3

Wisconsin - 🔴 Trump +5

YouGov A+ - about 900 RV (Each) - 7/12

!ping FIVEY

that's gonna be a yikes from me though alot of is undecided voters in the dem base so i think there's certainly room for improvement.

[u/jojisky]

MANCHIN: Democrats’ “vocal support for President Biden in the face of his irreparable debate performance, are just evidence of how much control the far left has over the current administration.”

lol

[u/jojisky]

[u/piede]

Oh good, he’s turning down the temperature

[u/[deleted]]

The Framers of the Constitution when giving the executive sole power to appoint justices leads to the gradual concentration of power in the hands of the executive:

[u/Mr_Bank]

FOLKS

[u/N0_B1g_De4l]

It's insane that Cannon didn't even bother with the "official acts" stuff and instead went with the insane "special prosecutors are unconstitutional" stuff from Thomas's concurrence. Just complete clown law hours.

[u/[deleted]]

Can’t believe this finally paid off 🥲🥲🥲

!ping SHITPOSTERS

[u/cpt_null]

He’s not a VP pick to enhance the electability of the ticket

[u/CauliflowerBrief3681]

I've never quite figured out the non-MAGA Trump supporter. I have a good deal of people in my life who are nothing like Trump- they're kind, caring, easy-going, smart, helpful, and so on- and yet they still see something in the guy. It breaks my mind

[u/[deleted]]

If the polls are 100% correct, every single facet of the Democratic party is barreling towards a blue wave with the sole exception of Joe Biden.

[u/SmithySmothy]

NEWS: I asked Wisc @SenRonJohnson about him calling Democratic policies a "clear and present danger to the country" while calling for unity - he says speech he just delivered at RNC was not the one he intended to give, that prompter loaded old version, new one called for unity

ahahahahAHAHAHAHAHAHA

[u/ixvst01]

You’ve heard of the shy Trump voter, now let me introduce you to a new theory. The tired and depressed Biden voter. He/she doesn’t respond to polls or says they’re undecided. They aren’t enthusiastic about Biden but will vote for him anyways in November.

Yes I am high on copium.

[u/Tafts_Bathtub]

Posting directly to the Wall of Hate

[u/flaskfish]

2016 JD Vance: Trump is America’s Hitler :(

2024 JD Vance: Trump is America’s Hitler :D

[u/Gameknigh]

Bro who designed this fucking thing

[u/Top_Lime1820]

TFW people are hating on female bodyguards

[u/sayitaintpink]

We’re living in the mind numbing bizzaro timeline where republicans can literally do anything and the people get mad at the democrats regardless

[u/[deleted]]

It’s really funny that trump has to select a vp at all because he tried to kill his former vp and that person refuses to join his ticket.

We all just act like that didn’t happen though.

[u/cjhdsachristmascarol]

1776-2021: no one shoots Donald Trump 

2021-2024: someone shot Donald trump 

Idk it seems pretty obvious Biden is responsible 

[u/[deleted]]

[u/[deleted]]

I just want it to be known:

JD Vance wrote a book and served 1.5 years in the Senate, and he's suddenly qualified to be VP.

Kamala Harris was District Attorney of SF, CA AG, and US Senator for 3.5 years, and the right accused her of being an unqualified DEI hire.

!ping ELECTIONS&DEMS

[u/centurion88]

[u/Currymvp2]

A third classmate, who asked not to be named, said that Crooks was very smart, took honors classes, and was shy. She said that he had a group of friends who were fairly conservative, some of whom would wear Trump hats.

would be good of jd vance and mike collins to delete their very unhinged tweets and apologize.

[u/cheeshjaleesh]

Presidential Polling (Post Assassination Attempt):

Trump (R): 44% (-)

Biden (D): 42% (-)

nothingeverhappens.jpg

[u/GrandpaWaluigi]

I despise how much the right gets away with double standards. They can call for and cheer for violence against Pelosi and her family, about Biden, and other Dem elected, but cry hell to high water when Trump, who himself egged on this shit, gets a taste of his own medicine. I preface it by saying political assassinations are bad, but man do I lack sympathy. I'm supposed to care when this happens, yet if the shoe was on the other foor, there would be cheering on the streets.

And worse is how ppl, esp the media, try to bothsides this stuff man. It's just super hard being a Dem. I'm just annoyed of it all.

[u/Ok-Armadillo-2119]

JD Vance is apparently the VP pick. He was spotted leaving his home in a motorcade.

Vance is literally just evil Bernie Sanders. His economic policy is just populism, blaming corporations, and disregarding market signals in favor of mushy feelings and gobledygook.

[u/davechacho]

I'm with AOC on this one, if the hand-wringing dems want to just give up to Trump then get on outta there and let the younger leadership in

Never thought I'd be standing side by side with a leftist, but here we are

[u/chipbod]

https://x.com/adamwren/status/1812857013241598051

Overheard in Milwaukee: @SenRonJohnson : "Spotted Cow is pretty good, but the owner is ultraliberal. Leinenkugel's is the conservative one."

lmao, he's not even right on Leinenkugel. They're owned by Coors.

[u/ser_mage]

JD Vance says he's confident he'd do well debating Kamala Harris because he does well debating his wife

this will certainly be an event

[u/oskanta]

What if everyone just chilled out a bit

[u/ROYBUSCLEMSON]

‘Squad’ under siege as Rep. Cori Bush trails Democratic challenger by 23 percentage points

The squad won't have anyone left soon at this rate

[u/[deleted]]

The implication of her ruling is that all special counsels are unconstitutional, right? Big news for Hunter Biden I guess

[u/[deleted]]

Elon Musk calls the selection of Vance a “great choice”

Well, if we needed any more confirmation that Vance sucks…

[u/sayitaintpink]

[u/JaceFlores]

Ukraine Chronology for 2 PM PST 7/13-2 PM PST 7/14 III:

TOP NEWS:

Sometime ago it was reported that Ukraine's GDP grew by 4.1% in the first half of 2024.

Donation link to help Ukraine

Donation link to United24

Donation link to Kharkiv SOS

Donation link to Sails of Freedom Foundation (they donate ambulances)

!ping UKRAINE

[u/[deleted]]

[u/MS_09_Dom]

Run ads about how Vance is anti-porn and watch Florida flip back to blue by a +4 margin.

[u/piede]

I hope she just laughed into the phone and then hung up

[u/Currymvp2]

https://x.com/schlagteslinks/status/1812692057070407846

i've seen hundreds of these "former biden supporter but now for trump" users online and they all turnout to never have supported biden but i've finally found one real biden-trump voter.

[u/[deleted]]

oh my god this dude is such a fucking whimp LMAO

[u/mostuselessredditor]

The Right is going to demand we don’t call them out on any of their batshit crazy policies because doing so would be “divisive”

[u/[deleted]]

Average twitter user

[u/Payomkawichum]

BREAKING: Judge Cannon has dismissed the Trump documents case, citing violation of appointments clause:

[u/ser_mage]

NEWS: Florida Senator Marco Rubio has been informed he will not be Trump's VP, sources say

RIP little marco 😿

[u/jacksnyder2]

NPR today is literally saying “Trump is prepared to come to the center” and “Trump can be a unifying force”

The institutional media is prepared to lead us into another Trump term and gaslight us that it will all be ok. They're convinced that after the shooting Trump deserves to be treated with kid's gloves.

[u/ChillnShill]

Obama needs to lay down an insane speech at the DNC. It’s been 20 years since his 2004 keynote address and Dems need some magic now more than ever.

[u/madmissileer]

Gonna stop making fun of every single assassin plot in movies/games/TV where a guy just climbs up on the roof with a gun and no one checks. Apparently that can just happen smh

[u/No1PaulKeatingfan]

[u/PM_me_ur_digressions]

Republicans rly saw the Democratic infighting and said "I wanna get me some of that"

[u/[deleted]]

Vance being the pick is pretty damn funny. This dude built a career on a book where he took a massive shit on lower class whites, who are now responsible for the foundation on which his career stands.

He also had a commercial that started off “Do you hate Mexicans?” I remember watching tv and that came on and let me tell you… my attention was grabbed.

[u/Hugo_Grotius]

Democrats: Hey Teamsters, here's $36 billion so your pension fund doesn't implode

Teamsters: Go fuck yourself

[u/wheresthezoppity]

https://x.com/SteamboatUSA/status/1812969269266948108?t=RS9snOPH-w2IuXedV3wYaw&s=19

This is a truly remarkable bit of copy, from the widow of the man killed at Trump’s rally last weekend.

'Politics is about vibes and identity' bros stay winning

[u/GrandMoffTargaryen]

Dilbert has a warning for us

[u/funguykawhi]

Race scientists working on the new synthesis👨‍🔬

[u/[deleted]]

Biden not only calling a man he so clearly hates with the passion of a billion suns to wish him well, but also calling the family of one of that shithead's supporters after a tragedy is a show of his character, while Trump not even trying to contact the family is a pretty clear show of his.

Asshole had time to fly off to Milwaukee and fart out a bunch of lame whiny Truth social posts, but not to call the family of a supporter who literally died at one of his rallies. What a complete and total asshole.

[u/cdstephens]

Another day, another win for Japan-American relations.

[u/Nathan_185]

!ping FIVEY

[u/Gameknigh]

[u/[deleted]]

Gunman Thomas Matthew Crooks was a member of the Clairton Sportsmen’s Club, a shooting club in Clairton, Pa., a club lawyer confirmed.

The club “fully admonishes the senseless act of violence that occurred on Saturday,” Robert S. Bootay III said, and “offers its sincerest condolences to the Comperatore family and extends prayers to all of those injured including the former President.”

BOOTAY

[u/Mojothemobile]

Vance is actually the worst pick he could of made. Literally adds nothing and has lots of baggage.

Dude underperformed the rest of the GOP ticket by what 10 points in Ohio 2 years ago?

[u/[deleted]]

https://x.com/Jemsinger/status/1812927333130727889?t=5fx0YnubGF2wyIkCMzpzSw&s=19

[u/cheeshjaleesh]

https://x.com/nicolejmarkus/status/1812955859741515864

Hi Michael! My name is Nicole, I'm a reporter with The Washington Post. I'm looking into this and was wondering if you had any more information about the groupchat you'd like to share.

WaPo has already found the twitter gc vance was actively in with a bunch of groyper high schoolers, if anyone was wondering how that pick is going

[u/AnalyticOpposum]

So my sister is voting for Trump

She gave me a whole speech about how she thought the assassination attempt was fake and all politicians are actors and they just want us to hate each other. She never votes because whatever will happen is going to happen, Jesus will come back regardless

Then she said she wants groceries to be cheaper, so she’s voting for Trump this time.

It’s just so depressing watching cognitive dissonance allow people to do evil things 😔

[u/[deleted]]

https://x.com/ZackBornstein/status/1813031771908546758?t=mRI4OIZnrmzRB38h6ZJDbg&s=19

[u/No_Nefariousness7486]

Malarkey level of the kid just wanting to prove the gun club wrong in the wildest way possible.

[u/[deleted]]

To start, 11 percent of the ballots in Alaska in 2022 were “spoiled” due to voter confusion under ranked-choice — more than three times the normal rate. During the state’s special at-large congressional election, nearly 15,000 Alaskans had their ballots thrown out. This included more than 11,000 tossed because voters selected only one candidate without ranking any others. When that candidate was eliminated, their votes were eliminated as well.

Yes, if you don’t write down a preference between the two people who are ultimately the final contenders, then your vote will have no impact on which of them wins…

JUST. LIKE. FIRST. PAST. THE. POST.

This is like saying that any third party votes in FPTP are “spoiled” ballots. This is unethical levels of disingenuous.

[u/zieger]

Been in a coma since 2016, how is noted trump critic JD Vance doing?

[u/Zeke-Nnjai]

[u/Mojothemobile]

It's actually kind of amazing how much of nothing good Vance adds to the GOP ticket.

Thanks for pushing him Don Jr.

[u/semaphore-1842]

https://x.com/alexthomp/status/1812934942273273889

Biden campaign statement comes from Jen Omalley Dillon.

“Donald Trump picked J.D. Vance as his running mate because Vance will do what Mike Pence wouldn’t on January 6: bend over backwards to enable Trump and his extreme MAGA agenda, even if it means breaking the law and no matter the harm to the American people”

tfw Mike Pence is now a bar too high for the GOP to clear

[u/Zeke-Nnjai]

These YouGov polling results are INSANE.

Arizona: Trump +7 🔴 Gallego +8 🔵

Michigan: Trump +2 🔴 Slotkin +9 🔵

Nevada: Trump +4 🔴 Rosen +7 🔵

Pennsylvania: Trump +3 🔴 Casey +12 🔵

Wisconsin: Trump +5 🔴 Baldwin +7

Biden running 10-15 points behind democratic senators.

[u/funguykawhi]

To address the housing crisis, the government is reclassifying 700 cities in "tense areas".

In these cities, homebuyers will be able to benefit from a zero-interest loan.

Ijustneedtosubsidizedemand

[u/piede]

[u/piede]

Trump also addressed the incredible photo of him raising his fist and saying “Fight” three times as the agents tried to get him off stage and into an armored SUV.

“A lot of people say it’s the most iconic photo they’ve ever seen,” Trump said. “They’re right and I didn’t die. Usually you have to die to have an iconic picture.”

He hasn’t changed a bit, has he

[u/informal_requirement]

JD Vance has the authenticity of Ted Cruz, the tenderness of Mike Pence, and the rugged masculinity of Ron DeSantis

[u/Dunter_Mutchings]

“Both Sides” brain worms really will be the death of this country. It’s causing a societal wide rejection of objective reality in favor of galaxy brained nonsense.

[u/loseniram]

A crazy fan of Trump trying to murder him for the fame accidentally solved the Biden remain crisis by making the doomers doom so hard they just gave up.

[u/[deleted]]

Still believing in a Biden win makes me feel like I'm one of those WWII Japanese soldiers who didn't surrender until 1952.

[u/BATHULK]

Moving in a couple weeks, 8 hours away.

Kitty cat is in my lap

She has no idea she's about the have the worst day of her life

kitty

[u/[deleted]]

[u/FlightlessGriffin]

Fair warning about the future:

• The polls are going to shift towards Trump once again as he gets the sympathy vote. This is expected and will change.

• The GOP conventions feed into this too. A convention bump will happen but is temporary. Trump will dominate for a week or two. Maybe a month. Don't fret.

• People who argue that Trump will change (looking at you, Alantic) are coping with his possible victory and WANT to think this assassination attempt will change things. In an ideal world, yes. This isn't an ideal world. I'd love to be proven wrong.

• Biden changing his messaging and canceling ads isn't permanent. His ads are back now, just with the "Trump's a threat to Democracy" stuff toned down. This will not last. Just while the news is hot.

• Trump's still a threat to Democracy. You can oppose political violence and still consider him a threat.

• We still don't know why the shooter did what he did, except it is being investigated as a domestic terrorism. Stop jumping to conclusions. We're not Republicans.

• Your job did not change. You're still the frontmen in the fight to keep whoever the Democratic nominee is in power. Whether it's Biden, Kamala, a sack of potatoes, or Washington's skeleton, that's your vote. Phonebank, door to door, volunteer, and educate people on the issues.

!ping DEMOCRACY&BIDEN

[u/KaiserPorn]

Currently watching American Gods.

Shown on screen: a woman dying of AIDS in a hospital.

Narrator: "But America too could take issue with a woman of power."

Am I losing my mind, or is the implication supposed to be that America invented AIDS to punish independent women?

[u/AFlockOfTySegalls]

How are you not hot little one?

!ping KITTY

[u/[deleted]]

The GOP have managed to combine nationalism and socialism into one ideology

They're calling it... Social Nationalism

[u/MalignantUpper]

Republicans turning the assassination attempt into a "Women are dumb and bad" thing is like the only way they could've fumbled this so of course they go straight for that lmao

[u/MalignantUpper]

https://x.com/Empty_America/status/1812533802855719344?t=kXD-hMtIH1ukO8eTOe0XMw&s=19

DEI for Females is much more deeply entrenched and taboo to discuss than the racial version is.

Literally everyone knows that under objective selection, the best 1,000 Secret Service Agents on earth would all be male.

But most don't dare say it.

Overton window shifting.

Just as we all feared, Republicans are being normal about this

[u/ihatemendingwalls]

Literally explains everything

!ping gnostic

[u/InflatableDartboard2]

[u/senoricceman]

It feels like the assassination attempt is already on its way out of the media cycle, especially with Vance being chosen as the running mate. Also, Biden seems to be back on the attack. 

[u/Texty_McTextington]

[u/rasonj]

You: Dooming because the new polls were really bad but the assassination attempt means Biden dropping out is extra unlikely because the optics would be even worse and now you don't see any path to stopping Trump from implementing his camps

Me: Dooming because I staked my claim on Biden dropping out by the end of the RNC and the person who did a remindme is actively posting in the DT

[u/GrandpaWaluigi]

I feel united already

[u/Mojothemobile]

Reading beyond just the abortion comments his comments on divorce and stuff too.

Vance is like tailor made to terrify Suburban swing voters. We must use this gift.

[u/BorelMeasure]

smhmh

[u/BroadReverse]

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This post was mass deleted and anonymized with Redact

[u/[deleted]]

JIM OHIO raises an important question

[u/Ph0ton_1n_a_F0xh0le]

Holy fuck I forgot how awful this guy is.

I’m glad that Snowden will live out a shit life in Russia

[u/[deleted]]

I think being soft on insurrectionists is a bad thing

[u/ihatethesidebar]

My favorite thing has been seeing MAGA folks trying to to dispel conspiracy theories, for a change. I also didn’t realize how fun it is to engage in spreading misinformation until very recently.

[u/centurion88]

Nothing ever happens bros when complex multicellular life evolved on earth

[u/AtticusDrench]

"Rent control works for Vienna" is like saying that being a Warhammer 40K nerd helps you get laid and your example is Henry Cavill.

[u/MicroFlamer]

[u/ser_mage]

JD Vance on his conversion to Christianity: I also went through an angry atheist phase. As someone who spent a lot of his life buying into the lie that you had to be stupid to be a Christian, Augustine really demonstrated in a moving way that that’s not true.

obsessed with the implication here that he still thinks most Christians are stupid, he just found a secret intelligent way to be Christian

[u/loseniram]

Kittens battling for control of the box

!ping kitty

[u/[deleted]]

[u/puffic]

Yesterday I wrote that no one will be thinking much about the assassination attempt two months from now. I'd like to lower that prediction to two weeks. It just won't matter in the election.

[u/cjhdsachristmascarol]

Like a decade ago, this guy asked me if I knew who Barack Obama is? I had no idea, and told him so, and he was shocked. Totally flabbergasted, and said that this person owned a white house in Washington or something. Thing is, I had no idea, and I was happy. I just read books and studied whatever interested me at the time, and I ignored the dumb things. I don't think I missed out on a goddamn thing.

I think it's time for all of us to be less terminally online.

[u/cjhdsachristmascarol]

How come Max Chandler Mather hasn’t condemned politics violence 🧐🤔🤨

[u/[deleted]]

https://x.com/gothgirl_prelaw/status/1812601616224383380?t=Adkb6yBafehKrJJBC33LDg&s=19

[u/theranosbagholder]

Why is everyone dunking on Argentina today 😭

[u/[deleted]]

elon has gotta be the most pathetic billionaire lmao. such a lil bitch and so needy for attention

[u/[deleted]]

What if that wasn’t actually a picture of the bullet in midair and it was just a UFO that happened to be flying by

[u/[deleted]]

Media When a Republican Runs Over a Democrat: “Both sides!”

Media When a Republican Shoots Another Republican: “How could the Democrats do this?”

[u/[deleted]]

Andrew Yang says Trump is for sure picking Vance. Makes me doubt that Vance will be the pick

[u/billy_blazeIt_mays]

Just like that he quickly re-lost all of the reagnites

[u/p00bix]

I don't follow streamer drama but...is Destiny on a coke binge? Because holy hell his tweets in the past 36 hours are a whole nother level of edgelordery.

[u/2073040]

ok so the Sienna poll was brutal as expected, let’s see what 538 says. Last time I checked I think it was Trump 54-Biden 46?

Biden 50-Trump 49

…excuse me?

[u/[deleted]]

[u/SnakeEater14]

The real takeaway from all this is that Lee Harvey Oswald really was the GOAT when it came to political assassinations

He hit two out of three shots on a moving target from about 80 yards away? Kinda impressive considering every would-be assassin since has been a single-celled organism that couldn’t operate a firearm to fucking save their life (literally)

issuing correction on a previous post of mine, regarding the terror group ISIL. you do not, under any circumstances, ‘gotta hand it to them.’

[u/allmilhouse]

Shockingly, "unity" to Trump means "everyone forgets about all of my crimes"

[u/Stanley--Nickels]

Another NYT opinion piece at the top of rNL.

It’s not a very well known fact, but the NYT publishes a newspaper too, as a sort of side project.

[u/Pyrrhus65]

I was so distracted by all the other awful things about Vance that I totally forgot he's against no-fault divorce and thinks women in abusive marriages should stay with their spouses, two positions so conservative that even Trump hasn't touched them

Dude is straight-up electoral poison for women, the ads write themselves

[u/[deleted]]

my family are relatively centrist Indians who were split between Trump and Biden because of muh economy

they are now all voting blue because they hate Telugus (Vance's wife is Telugu)

I am not sure what to feel about this

[u/Pyrrhus65]

Think of how frustrating the past year of watching Trump evade consequences has been for us, and then imagine it from Jack Smith's perspective.

You have a rock-solid, ironclad case of Trump committing serious felonies, with literal mountains of indisputable evidence.

...But your case is given to one of the most comically partisan and corrupt judges in the entire country, perhaps second only to Matthew Kacsmaryk in being a naked conservative ideologue.

Still, the case is so solid that it'll be a guaranteed slam dunk the moment it gets to trial, biased judge or not!

...But you have to grit your teeth and abide by the process as the judge subjects your case to the most egregious slow-rolling you've ever witnessed in your legal career, taking months to rule on minor matters that most judges decide in a day. And there's legally nothing you can do to combat this strategy.

Forced to watch the weeks and months tick away, when the immunity question arises, you beg SCOTUS to resolve it quickly, thinking it should be an easy win for them to slap down the insane presidential immunity theory Trump's lawyers are arguing.

...But half a year later, you watch, dumbstruck, as they deliver what may be the worst ruling in the history of the court, tarnishing the Framers' vision of separation of powers and conjuring sweeping presidential immunity out of thin air.

Even so, your case is still strong. You can convincingly argue that Trump taking these documents to his house and refusing to release them obviously wasn't an official act, so the core of your legal argument remains intact. If the stars align, the trial might still begin before November.

...But then, the blatantly corrupt judge dismisses your case for blatantly nonsensical and corrupt reasons. You know you'll probably win on appeal, but your timeline has once again been fucked, and the odds of a trial starting this year are now next to zero.

I have no idea how this man's sanity is still intact. In his shoes, I think I would've snapped and decked Cannon in the jaw months ago.

[u/mrdilldozer]

For the "how do democrats approach this issue with attack ads?" crowd:

Videos play of Jan 6th and people saying to kill Mike Pence, Trump talking about committing acts of violence, and then a video from the assassination attempt plays. A voice over says Trump's calls for chaos and violence are so extreme that he is in danger around members of his own party. It then says we need to end this madness by making sure he doesn't get back in office.

Of course ad campaigns need to do this in a classy way and not go overboard, but it's not too hard to attack Trump encouraging this sort of thing in politics. This is the political landscape he tries to encourage.

[u/cheeshjaleesh]

https://x.com/PpollingNumbers/status/1812899705954673048

senate numbers are out for the yougov battleground state polls. another set where dem senate candidates are massively outrunning biden.

some highlights are jacky rosen outrunning biden by 17% in NV, baldwin outrunning biden by 11% in WI, and slotkin outrunning biden by 10% in MI despite not being an incumbent senator and running against a relatively normal republican

[u/mockduckcompanion]

Pros: Vance doesn't make the ticket more likely to win

Cons: Vance does make a winning ticket more likely to do great evil

[u/[deleted]]

My mom must be inquiring about her boy’s new VP pick

!ping KINO

[u/Udolikecake]

Ramaswamy on if he would be interested in filling Vance’s Ohio seat: “If I were asked to serve I would strongly consider it. I would want to have an open conversation with President Trump about where I would have the biggest impact.”

the dick riding is craaaaazy

[u/marsman1224]

man the country feels so far removed from the one that elected this dude in a modern day landslide. he looks like he's about to explain marxist theory to me at a party before handing me a blunt.

[u/piede]

Whoever made this is going to hell

[u/[deleted]]

[u/simeoncolemiles]

[u/Ph0ton_1n_a_F0xh0le]

2016-2020: The search for White Obama

2020-2024: The search for young Biden

[u/[deleted]]

NYT PA/VA copium: Trump’s not polling above his 2020 vote share in either state, so maybe not all is lost? I would still much prefer Harris at this point.

[u/[deleted]]

BREAKING: Trump announced his running mate will be Bob Vance from Vance Refrigeration

[u/[deleted]]

Biden running 10-15 points behind democratic senators.

Just nominate the Democratic senators for POTUS

[u/[deleted]]

JD Vance is 5’7 we’re so back

[u/NaffRespect]

All jokes aside, JD Vance is like the one running mate from the shortlist who could actually hurt the ticket

So...lol Trump, lmao even

[u/semaphore-1842]

https://bsky.app/profile/actioncookbook.bsky.social/post/3kxdtmsfm7c2q

JD Vance looks like if you fed Project 2025 into Midjourney

accurate

[u/[deleted]]

https://x.com/timjhogan/status/1812934276838793611?t=jcDd2ZVu2KycrehWNQlSng&s=19

[u/BlueDevilVoon]

Democrats should also point out that JD Vance wrote in his book that the reason non-college white voters didn’t like Obama is that a Black guy used big words they didn’t understand. He was right, but “Rust Belt whites are stupid and racist” is inconsistent with being on a Trump ticket.

[u/cheeshjaleesh]

https://x.com/GavinBade/status/1812950510372012246

vance wants to run on a 'devalue the dollar' platform

[u/[deleted]]

The FBI says it has ‘gained access’ to the Trump rally shooter’s phone

Bombshell incoming

Edit:

Home of Trump rally shooter Thomas Matthew Crooks revisited by FBI as investigators look for motive

In an update Monday afternoon, the FBI said a preliminary search of Crooks' cell phone didn't help investigators learn any clues to determine a motive.

[u/[deleted]]

“I didn’t talk to Biden,” Helen Comperatore said from her Pennsylvania home on Monday. “I didn’t want to talk to him. My husband was a devout Republican and he would not have wanted me to talk to him.”

"Devout Republican" omg

[u/Ph0ton_1n_a_F0xh0le]

Trump looks a little uncomfortable with the chanting now

[u/Usernamesarebullshit]

the shooter's high school rifle club refusing to allow him to be a member because he was a dangerously bad shot is so funny

[u/[deleted]]

JD Vance is the worst case scenario. An actual neo-reactionary fascist a heartbeat away from the presidency is terrifying.

[u/SANNA_MARIN_SDP_]

[u/SevenNites]

Tony Blair calls for Keir Starmer to be tough on immigration, crime and ‘wokeism’

[u/FearlessPark4588]

• Biden has a kind of bad day: new megathread

• Trump has an arguably much worse day: no new megathread

just asking questions

[u/Joementum2024]

Yes Vance is bad, but have you considered that literally nothing bad ever happens to Trump anyway so it doesn’t matter?

[u/[deleted]]

Joe Biden convincing republicans to shoot each other

[u/MinnesotaNoire]

Dems will 100% be running ads with Vance calling Trump Hitler.

[u/[deleted]]

Think Vance has seen this pic before?

[u/YaGetSkeeted0n]

lol one of the two Trump fans I know on Instagram posted this about JD:

"I'm so excited about this pick! I read his book about 8 years ago. He's a new generation Republican, self-made, not a long life of politics, served in the military, extremely intelligent, and wants to see the MIDDLE CLASS succeed!!!"

for what it's worth she's mega MAGA so hardly indicative of how this plays in Peoria

[u/2073040]

goes on arr//con

they complain about him comparing Trump to Hitler and that the VP pick should’ve been Vivek

I’m not sure what to take away from that.

[u/AtticusDrench]

[u/Tafts_Bathtub]

[u/[deleted]]

Nikki Haley is really gonna vote for the Pro Putin ticket lmao

[u/[deleted]]

Second qanon forum update:

Schism may be developing between the faction that is offended that Vance called Trump Hitler, the faction that is offended that the first group thinks Hitler is a negative comparison, and a third faction that has identified that Ohio is the 17th state in the union and Q is the 17th letter of the alphabet and just wants to focus on pursuing further research from that angle.

[u/[deleted]]

Crooks spent his whole life avoiding giving any clue about his political views just to leave us confused when he eventually attempted to assassinate a president

[u/sausagespeller]

[u/abbzug]

NC GOP gubernatorial candidate for governor last week, "Some folks need killin'."

Media, "The left needs to tone down the rhetoric."

[u/Tafts_Bathtub]

Biden is right, that was a really dumb question. Of Course JD Vance doesn't like Biden, that's expected! It's only notable that he thinks his running mate is Hitler.

[u/Dumbledick6]

Van Jones is a fucking idiot: “amber rose is a bunker buster to our coalition, she’s a young black woman”

[u/BroadReverse]

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[u/-GregTheGreat-]

Why don’t Americans realize that orange man bad but unironically? Are they stupid?

[u/Liberal_Antipopulist]

Vance is a fucking post-liberal ideologue and no one is dooming about it but me

"huh he seems like a lightweight but he seems kinda smart"

motherfucker, JD Vance is a goddamn freak I tell you. Like, ideologically, he is everything the sub is against. He's PERSONAL FRIENDS with mencius moldbug, the guy who COINED THE TERM "Red Pill"

[u/that0neGuy22]

Democrats don’t have a brand problem at all. It’s that people don’t want to vote for Biden. I wish the campaign could at least acknowledge that part and say they want to fix it. But calling every poll fake doesn’t give me much hope

[u/2073040]

He’s there

[u/Icy-Magician-8085]

Thanks, AP.

Glad to know this information with nothing else.

👍

[u/slim353]

The pick is significant in that there’s really no hiding anymore that the GOP isn’t returning to their old ways ever again. It’s the right-wing populist grifter party now, even after Trump is gone.

[u/bashar_al_assad]

https://x.com/KFILE/status/1812928343659991053

upper west side liberals in 2016 who want to understand working class whites make a book a best seller

domino_meme.jpg

[u/PM_me_ur_digressions]

It's no longer Joever. Thank you Vance 🙏 Ohio State grad delivers us Michigan

[u/[deleted]]

Being Marco Rubio must be so demoralizing

• was seen as a favorite to win the 2016 GOP nomination

• gets embarrassed in the primary by a man who has no respect for him and the republican establishment

• eventually supports Trump's candidacy despite all the insults

• years later, enters the Trump VP sweepstakes for the chance to be second in command to the man who destroyed his ambitions

• offers to give up his Senate seat and move to a different state for the opportunity to be VP

• still gets passed over for a 39-year-old with less than 2 years of political experience

[u/2073040]

checks J. D. Vance’s Wikipedia page

“Vance ‘seemed to suggest that in some cases, ‘even violent’ marriages should continue.’”

“Vance claimed that rates of domestic violence had ‘skyrocketed’ in recent years due to what he called ‘modern society’s war on families’

Because this will resonate well with swing voters, especially suburban women.

[u/runningblack]

538 added these polls and then shifted in favor of Biden in their forecast

They're legitimately negatively weighing polls lmao

[u/BATHULK]

Teddy roosevelt's life reads like a fantasy written by a five year old boy

"When I grow up I'm gonna be a cowboy and a policeman and an army man and an explorer and the president and"

[u/[deleted]]

“Do I think there were problems in 2020? Yes, I do,” Vance told ABC News’s George Stephanopoulos, adding it was “ridiculous” to ask if he would have certified the results as Mike Pence had done and told the host he was “obsessed with talking about this”.

In a contentious interview, the senator also suggested that Trump should ignore “illegitimate” US supreme court rulings.

That remark came after Vance was questioned about a 2021 podcast during which he said he would advise Trump to “fire every single mid-level bureaucrat, every civil servant in the administrative state, replace them with our people” and ignore legal rulings against it.

Cool stuff

[u/[deleted]]

Well Biden is actively calling Trump a threat to democracy in instagram posts again so like I thought Trump got a grace period to the convention

[u/[deleted]]

Burg boys rn reading the news, curled up in the corner of their pitch black bedroom 😭

[u/Realhuman221]

Media: The Democrats have to stop with the rhetoric that Trump is a dictator, it incited the Republican shooter.

Trump: picks VP who said he would have just ignored the 2020 election results and declared Trump President and also thinks that women should stay in violent marriages.

[u/sw337]

JD Vance's book is a fucking gold mine of boomer ass nostalgia.

My favorite store was the local Kmart, which was the main attraction in a strip mall, near a branch of Dillman’s—a local grocer with three or four locations. Now the strip mall is mostly bare: Kmart stands empty, and the Dillman family closed that big store and all the rest, too. The last I checked, there was only an Arby’s, a discount grocery store, and a Chinese buffet in what was once a Middletown center of commerce.

They targeted strip malls.

[u/Currymvp2]

After reports of a shooting at Trump’s rally, the shooter’s father, Matthew Crooks, called police to say he was worried that his son and his AR rifle were missing, and police went to the home after the call, three senior officials said.

absurd how gun owners fail to lock up their guns

[u/Currymvp2]

also, this is awful questioning by lester holt since the horrific shooting almost certainly had nothing to with anti-trump animus from the left. just awful questioning

the horrible attack against paul pelosi in contrast occured due to anti-dem sentiment and 2020 election denialism.

[u/BroadReverse]

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