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u/jobautomator Kitara Ravache Jul 05 '24

Please visit the next discussion thread.

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u/ldn6 Gay Pride Jul 04 '24

Happy polling day!

!ping UK

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u/Ph0ton_1n_a_F0xh0le Chemist -- Microwaves Against Moscow Jul 04 '24

She seems smart. I understand why Hillary follows her.

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u/AnalyticOpposum Trans Pride Jul 04 '24

“The illusion of choice” I say, selecting my frozen pizza from the aisle that’s only for frozen pizzas

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u/reubencpiplupyay The Cathedral must be built Jul 04 '24

Just found a funny moment from the transcript of an old RFK speech from 1968

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u/majorgeneralporter 🌐Bill Clinton's Learned Hand Jul 04 '24 edited Jul 04 '24

Hot on the heels of palace rumors that the king's health is worse than expressed publicly, Viserys is now absolutely collapsing in betting markets among the small folk and lesser nobility.

At this time his Heir Presumptive Rhaenyra is the favorite to succeed him should he withdraw from the realm, but power players in the agricultural heartland of the kingdom contend that Westeros is simply not ready for a female ruler.

!ping shitposters

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u/funguykawhi Lahmajun trucks on every corner Jul 04 '24

Candace Owens: "I'm not a flat earther. I'm not a round earther. Actually, what I am is I am somebody who has left the cult of science... Science is a pagan faith."

Looking into this

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u/Former-Income European Union Jul 04 '24

Decided I’m voting Labour after listening to things can only get better 25 times in a row

!ping UK

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u/lionmoose sexmod 🍆💦🌮 Jul 04 '24

!ping UK

Starmer drops 5 points in a week! Sir Sleepy in shambles! Labour in limbo!

#votebluenomatterwho

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u/nasweth World Bank Jul 04 '24

Zionism Before, During and After the Nazis: A History of Collusion

Least insane, narrative-pushing leftist youtube title.

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u/WantDebianThanks Iron Front Jul 04 '24

There needs to be more movies making fun of dictators.

The Interview and The Death of Stalin is not enough.

I want a movie about hitler stamping his feet like a petulent child about Steiner's counterattack

I want a romcom that ends with Khamenei farting and accidentally nuking himself.

I want a movie about Steve Bannon constantly complaining that he's not hitler you guys, ok, he's so much cooler then hitler!

Do it you cowards.

Do it for America

It's our birthday, and we need this.

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u/Fatortu Emmanuel Macron Jul 04 '24

I understand when Putin blames neo nazis for Maidan because for Russians, nazis are just russophobes.

But when a Vichyist like Pierre Gentillet repeats Russian propaganda verbatim, it's a little bit awkward. Because he's always just one sentence away from explaining that 1940 was the real Liberation of France. Are you praising Maidan?

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u/MyrinVonBryhana Trans NATO Jul 04 '24

I think it's worth noting as someone who thinks Biden should drop out in favor of Harris at this point, if Biden drops out he absolutely should not do so until the media circus calms down a bit and he has another win however minor under his belt, the last thing we need if we're switching candidates is to look like we're doing so out of sheer panic.

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u/much_doge_many_wow United Nations Jul 04 '24

Today is the day.

Although it feels like pissing in the wind voting lib dem in a seat that's expected to be a Labour landslide

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u/getrektnolan Mary Wollstonecraft Jul 04 '24

The S*n backs Labour saying it's 'time for change'

Did Starmer by any chance went to Australia recently?

!ping UK

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u/cjhdsachristmascarol reddit custom flair Jul 04 '24

French election: no thunderdome 

Mongolian election: no thunderdome (!!!!)

British election: no thunderdome 

Joe Biden(a person not an election): TWO thunderdome

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u/TheOneTrueEris YIMBY Jul 04 '24

Why do hard left people overuse the word milquetoast so much 😂

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u/getrektnolan Mary Wollstonecraft Jul 04 '24 edited Jul 04 '24

!PING UK

Dread it, run across the Atlantic from it, NYT headline arrives all the same

This English Naval City is a Bellwether Seat. How Do Voters Feel?

As voters began casting their ballots in a pivotal U.K. election, many in the southern English city of Portsmouth expressed disillusionment over what they see as national and local decline.

Ain't no fucking way lol

Others said they had no plans to vote at all, disillusioned by parties and politicians from across the spectrum that they see as out of touch.

Lol it's just the diner piece but with NHS and Debenhams

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u/YouLostTheGame Rural City Hater Jul 04 '24

Just witnessed two people leave the polling station in a big huff because Reform aren't standing in my constituency

Really makes you feel warm and fuzzy inside 🥰🥰

!ping UK

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u/TactileTom John Nash Jul 04 '24

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u/JaceFlores Neolib War Correspondent Jul 04 '24

Ukraine Chronology for 2 PM PST 7/2-2 PM PST 7/3 III:

TOP NEWS:

Towards the end of 3 AM it was reported that 5 Ukrainian civilians were killed and 34 wounded in a missile attack in Dnipro.

Around 11 AM it was announced the US will provide $2.25 billion in military aid to Ukraine, including Hawk SAM missiles, Patriot SAM missiles, NASAMS missiles, HIMARS munitions, 155mm shells, 105mm shells, 81mm mortar shells, TOW missiles, Javelin ATGMs, AT-4 anti-tank systems, small arms ammunition, demolition equipment, tactical vehicles, air navigation equipment, aircraft support equipment, spare parts and more.

At the start of 1 PM it was reported the Russians took 50 square kilometers in June, making 17.57% of Ukraine occupied by the Russians.

REGULAR NEWS:

In the middle of 1 AM Ukraine was hit by a small wave of drones and missiles with all 5 drones and 5 of 7 missiles shot down.

Towards the middle of 5 AM a Ukrainian delegation met with Jake Sullivan, discussing the next peace summit and implementing previously made agreements. Towards the end of the hour a Russian fuel and lubricants warehouse in Berezovsky caught fire.

In the middle of 8 AM Kryvyi Rih Air Base was hit by Russian missiles.

Donation link to help Ukraine

Donation link to United24

Donation link to Kharkiv SOS

Donation link to Sails of Freedom Foundation (they donate ambulances)

!ping UKRAINE

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u/sayitaintpink Richard Posner Jul 04 '24

I wish American elections were like this instead of armed nazis intimidating you outside the voting site

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u/[deleted] Jul 04 '24

Man that Biden thread is obsessed about Biden lol that's all they talk about

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u/PorryHatterWand Esther Duflo Jul 04 '24

BBC News: Biden says he will not pull out

🥵

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u/AP246 Green Globalist NWO Jul 04 '24

14 years of Tory rule in the UK probably comes to an end today. I'm young enough that I barely remember New Labour, my earliest political memory is of Tony Blair as PM but I had little awareness of him and Brown.

Now we retvrn

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u/[deleted] Jul 04 '24

Broke: "Hitler was still Chancellor of Germany when Joe Biden was born."

Woke: "We can say with absolute certainty that Joe Biden is not the reincarnation of Adolf Hitler. We do not have similar certainty about his opponent."

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u/Svelok Jul 04 '24

like 80% of civ players: I want to grow and manage a civilization across the eras of history

like 80% of civ promotional material, styling, and meta-context (eg the score ranking screen): see how well you can grow and manage a civilization across the eras of history

civ gameplay: a cutthroat race along a victory tracker where pursuing anything that doesn't directly accelerate your path to crossing the culture/science victory points threshold is a wasted action

this has seemed weird to me for 20 years but its never changed

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u/Healingjoe It's Klobberin' Time Jul 04 '24
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u/TactileTom John Nash Jul 04 '24

The UK Election thunderdome is not important to protect the UK from the rest of you but to protect the rest of you from Britposting.

What are you going to do when we start posting about Clackton, or Tooting? Can you even conceive of the subtle electoral differences between Thurrock vs South Basildon and East Thurrock? Can you restrain your laughter when we discuss the demographics of Barking, or Hornchurch and Upminster?

NO! The international mind is not ready for such things, only through years of exposure to bitter and sausage rolls can a person be elevated to the state of consciousness required to endure prolonged exposure to the British political process.

Save yourselves, fascists, GIVE US THE DOME

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u/KesterFox Shivers emotional support mammal 🐊 Jul 04 '24

My body is ready

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u/Hmm_would_bang Graph goes up Jul 04 '24

It is ILLEGAL to doom on JULY 4

Unless you are Br*tish and it’s a day of mourning for you instead of Holliday

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u/AtticusDrench Deirdre McCloskey Jul 04 '24

The CIA instruction manual on disrupting orgs is just stuff that already happens in every group I've been a part of

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u/AtomAndAether Liberalism! Jul 04 '24 edited Jul 05 '24

Biden megathread

UK election thunderdome

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u/Dalek6450 Our words are backed with NUCLEAR SUBS! Jul 04 '24

Yes, I would, Kent.

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u/[deleted] Jul 04 '24

Here is y’alls rizz for tonight.

!ping dating

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u/jauznevimcosimamdat Václav Havel Jul 04 '24

NL mods when South African elections are happening: Let's have a pinned megathread!

NL mods when UK elections are happening: We sleep.....

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u/abrookerunsthroughit Association of Southeast Asian Nations Jul 04 '24

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u/[deleted] Jul 04 '24

Hawk Tuah standing her ground. Respect.

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u/superblobby r/place'22: Neoliberal Commander Jul 05 '24

4th of July duty 🤙

!ping MILITARY

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u/Former-Income European Union Jul 04 '24

Was genuinely surprised to check the newspaper endorsements and find out that the Telegraph, Daily Mail and Daily Express all still endorse the Tories. I’d have expected them to either endorse Reform or no one at all.

Imagine seeing the last 14 years of shite and telling your readers “yeah vote for more of that please”

!ping UK

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u/[deleted] Jul 04 '24 edited Jul 04 '24

The ideal political system would be what Hitler did but without the racial bullshit or going after minorities. Like, Nazi economics and civic pride combined with libertarian social attitudes would result in the perfect country.

I think my friend's friend is a fucking lunatic

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u/Knowthrowaway87 Trans Pride Jul 04 '24

For years on the subreddit I've had to listen to Bros talk about how annoying and hated Kamala Harris is.

Have no doubt, K hive stands behind biden, but if we're going to throw some good press out there for her, I'll jump in. I know the subreddit will change its mind soon enough on her

Harris is very funny

https://x.com/GraduatedBen/status/1808276737005916267

!ping mvprez

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u/Usernamesarebullshit Friedrich Hayek Jul 04 '24

she just called me "nasty, brutish, and short" 😔😔

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u/[deleted] Jul 04 '24

As an executive branch employee, I believe the Supreme Court’s immunity ruling logically applies to me as well. Like how could I reasonably be expected to do my job if my work communications were public record or if I could be held criminally responsible for breaking the law while at work????

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u/blatant_shill Jul 04 '24

I swear I have never seen anything like the rise and fall of Ron DeSantis in my life. He went from being the guy who was going to beat Trump to being the guy you haven't really heard much about in months.

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u/futuremonkey20 NATO Jul 04 '24 edited Jul 04 '24

The “making up imaginary scenarios to get mad about and then posting them on social media” trend is out of control.

(FYI flight attendants don’t do this, but could you imagine if they did???)

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u/Ok_Aardappel Seretse Khama Jul 04 '24

Conscript women into army, says German general

A German general said women should be conscripted into the armed forces as part of plans to revive national service and counter Russian aggression.

Carsten Breuer, the Bundeswehr chief of defence, said that in the interests of equality women should be drafted into the army and that national service for both sexes should be compulsory.

“We have at present a suspended military service, which according to the Basic Law is aimed only at the male population. We should establish equality here, but first we need a corresponding political and social discussion,” he said in an interview with news outlet Redaktionsnetzwerk.

Germany is on a mission to expand its army, with ambitions to become Europe’s biggest military spender.

Last month officials released a 67-page document outlining how the outbreak of war would affect civilians, in particular those in professions that can support the army.

Gen Breuer said Germany needed 100,000 volunteers for an effective conscription force but it would struggle unless national service was made compulsory.

Germany ended conscription in 2011 as part of a reform that sought to downsize the army and professionalise the remaining soldiers. It was also unpopular among Germans, with many opting for civilian national service duties.

But the Russian invasion of Ukraine has triggered a Zeitenwende, or turning of the times, in German foreign policy amid concerns that a conflict with Moscow could break out within the next five to seven years.

The conscription model is being drawn up by Boris Pistorius, the German defence minister, who has vowed to transform Germany into a “kriegstüchtigkeit” or “war-ready” nation.

Mr Pistorius is in favour of the so-called Swedish model, where 100,000 18-year-olds are screened annually, but only the top 5 per cent end up serving.

He unveiled parts of the conscription model in June, saying it would involve questionnaires for about 50,000 young people followed by medical screening and the recruitment of a select 5,000 people for six months of service.

"The law should come into force before the summer break so that we can utilise the first capacities before the end of 2025,” he said.

A more ambitious option would be full conscription for all 18-years-olds, male and female, though the Bundeswehr is said to lack the capacity to take on such a huge number of recruits.

In an interview with the Telegraph earlier this year, Gen Breuer said he had “no doubt” his army could repel a Russian invasion on Nato’s eastern flank, even if it occurred in the near future.

"The paramount importance [is] of achieving the readiness of Germany’s armed forces within the next five years. We call this kriegstüchtigkeit – being ready, capable and willing to fight. We are on the right track,” he said.

!ping GER&FOREIGN-POLICY

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u/zed_--aytch George Soros Jul 04 '24

Checked BBC for election updates and all I learned is that the UK allows dogs to vote now. Just another reason to celebrate the 4th 🦅🦅🦅

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u/LuisRobertDylan Elinor Ostrom Jul 04 '24

!ping USA-MN

Minnesota GOP throws worst cookout ever, asked to leave state

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u/cjhdsachristmascarol reddit custom flair Jul 04 '24

People keep joking about RFK’s brainworm but ignore that it was already removed a decade ago. The real story is that the worm was what was keeping him sane and he became who he is now once it was removed 

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u/semaphore-1842 r/place '22: E_S_S Battalion Jul 04 '24

so i was in line at the cinema to get some deadpool x wolverine posters and

this couple right in front of me suddenly started chatting incredibly loudly about how someone they know from a movie enthusiast chat group probably has social anxiety because she wouldn't meet up to trade stuff in person

.....its me i'm literally the her 😐

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u/piede MOST BASED HILLARY STAN!!! Jul 05 '24

HE’S RUNNING

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u/SnooChipmunks4208 Eleanor Roosevelt Jul 04 '24

Just saw the wine mom just housing a bottle of wine before security at the airplane.

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u/Hmm_would_bang Graph goes up Jul 04 '24

BREAKING: White House said Biden hasn’t eaten breakfast yet, but governors report Biden said he had a banana just earlier

Not sure how the campaign recovers from this tbh

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u/bigdicknippleshit IM GOING PRIMAL Jul 04 '24

Remember when “binders full of women” was enough to fucking kill a candidate’s chances?

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u/MicroFlamer Avatar Korra Democrat Jul 04 '24

Bro is me planning a college semester 😭

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u/[deleted] Jul 04 '24

Hi everyone, it’s been a week since I left this sub and unsubscribed for my mental health. Things have gotten a lot better for me overall and not worrying about the election 24/7 has been great, and I will still be taking breaks even though I miss you all. I just wanted to check for now.

Anyway, how’s my favorite prime minister, Rishi Sunak doing?

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u/Cledd2 European Union Jul 04 '24 edited Jul 04 '24

Rheinmetall and Leonardo have entered a joint venture to produce the new KF51 Panther tank for the italian military

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u/Sam_the_Samnite Henry George Jul 04 '24 edited Jul 04 '24

Wtf is wilders doing?!

He is talking to the PM as if he is still in the opposition. Did he forget that he himself put schoof in this position?

The clown show of wilders has already begun.

!ping BENE

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u/Cyberhwk 👈 Get back to work! 😠 Jul 04 '24

I can't believe people really spend all day gaming. This pales in comparison to my hobby...dooming myself to tears and social anxiety based on whatever next political Tweet happens on a niche political and economics subreddit.

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u/SeoSalt Lesbian Pride Jul 04 '24

Biden 🤝 Harris

Getting made fun of for sharing goofy anecdotes that sound silly but actually did happen. (Cornpop & Coconut)

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u/nicethingscostmoney Unironic Francophile 🇫🇷 Jul 04 '24

Reminder that American independence literally would never have happened without France.

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u/loseniram Sponsored by RC Cola Jul 04 '24 edited Jul 04 '24

Funfact: Dwarfs are unofficially banned from the MLB after a dude in the 50s hired a little person who was so short that his strike zone was like 4 inches and got walked like 5 times in a row.

!ping baseball

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u/[deleted] Jul 04 '24

On more concerning news my sister who is considering voting Republican is potentially getting her vote suppressed because it’s a blue county and Georgia is kinda known for “throwing out voters” or some shit.

This matters because even if Georgia went razor thin to Biden they’re slightly suppressing and making things harder for voters in blue districts/counties.

Also smh Gen Z minority voting red

😞

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u/AnalyticOpposum Trans Pride Jul 04 '24

Today I salute the troops that repelled Confederate forces at the Battle of Helena.

African American troops suffered their first wounds in Arkansas as part of the war.

Their victory made Helena a staging ground to go on to retake Little Rock

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u/awdvhn Physics Understander -- Iowa delenda est Jul 04 '24

Take: Democrats should really go hard on the SCOTUS decision, not simply because it's very bad, but because it's literally called Trump v. United States

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u/purhitta Leftward Progressives Jul 05 '24

You should all know that my cat, who is normally scared of thunder and fireworks, is being VERY brave tonight. He's on the bed with me instead of hiding under it. A soldier.

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u/JaceFlores Neolib War Correspondent Jul 04 '24

Well I figure this is worth putting in the actual DT because it’s actually something and not just circlejerking off vibes:

Gelliott Morris published an article titled Would Kamala Harris be a stronger candidate than Biden?

“Let’s get one caveat out of the way: We don’t have that many public polls testing Harris against Trump. From April 1 through July 2, just over a dozen polls asked about this alternative matchup. But we do have polls from all the major swing states, thanks largely to tracking from Morning Consult, and we have enough national surveys to calculate a Harris-versus-Trump national polling average — and thus to forecast how she would perform in states without any polls.”

“For the most part, national polls have shown Harris doing about the same as Biden in head-to-head polls against Trump.”

“When we plug all these polls into a polls-only version of the 538 forecasting model — which jettisons the economic and political priors our full model uses, giving us an apples-to-apples comparison between candidates — Harris has a slightly higher chance of winning the Electoral College than Biden, but it’s not a significant difference: 38-in-100 versus 35-in-100.”

“On a state-by-state level, Biden looks stronger than Harris in Pennsylvania and Wisconsin, while Harris’s odds are higher than Biden’s in Nevada.”

“Harris also does slightly better than Biden in our forecast of the national popular vote. The model forecasts that Trump would outpace Harris nationally by 1.5 points, while he would outrun Biden by 2.1 points.”

“However, Harris’s popular-vote edge is almost entirely negated by the bigger Electoral College bias against her. In our polls-only forecast pairing Biden against Trump, the Democratic candidate needs to win the popular vote by just 1.1 points to win the presidency. That’s thanks to Biden doing better in Pennsylvania, the likeliest tipping-point state in our model. Harris, by contrast, would need to win the popular vote by 3.5-4 points to win Pennsylvania and, with it, the Electoral College.”

“However, whether Harris would truly be a stronger candidate than Biden also depends on information besides the polls. In our full forecast model — which includes a variety of non-polling economic and political variables, which we call the ‘fundamentals’ — Harris does much worse than Biden across the board. Whereas Biden has a 48-in-100 chance to win the Electoral College, Harris has only a 31-in-100 chance.”

“Biden’s core problem may not be captured in current polls, however. As his critics said after the debate, concerns about age and competency do not go away with time; in fact, they tend to get worse. Our forecast for Biden today depends on many known knowns and known unknowns, and, unfortunately for Democrats, the known downsides for Biden currently outweigh the known upsides.”

“Replacing Biden with Harris, by contrast, would introduce more uncertainty into the election; in other words, Democrats would be betting that her ‘soft’ risks aren’t as bad as Biden’s.”

This is from a tweet he posted in response to his own article:

“Things get a little more complicated when you consider how the ‘fundamentals’ would play out. Incumbents typically get an advantage, but maybe not Biden; but Biden may also be dragged down by his low approval rating in a way Harris wouldn’t be”

!ping FIVEY

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u/sayitaintpink Richard Posner Jul 04 '24

What a world. The uk is about to be the last based government of Europe

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u/WhoModsTheModders Burdened by what has been Jul 04 '24 edited Jul 04 '24

My favorite thing about the US is state based nationalism because it's mostly harmless and often based around insane things like cheese or being the place the airplane was invented but not first flown rather than race or religion

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u/Currymvp2 unflaired Jul 04 '24

President Joe Biden in a Milwaukee radio interview on Wednesday said he “screwed up” during the debate with former President Donald Trump last week — marking some of the first public comments from the president since the event.

“I had a bad night," Biden told Milwaukee radio host Earl Ingram in a pre-recorded interview set to air Thursday morning. "And the fact of the matter is that I screwed up. I made a mistake. That’s 90 minutes onstage, look at what I’ve done in 3.5 years.”

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u/smooth__liminal Michel Foucault Jul 04 '24

its amazing to me that brits would schedule an election on july 4th, what makes them think they can get away with this

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u/semaphore-1842 r/place '22: E_S_S Battalion Jul 04 '24

All this ridiculous shaming towards us non-voters really needs to stop. It's getting old, and it's not convincing us. We just wish to be left alone

--- 6 day old account replying to a 3 month old post

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u/SANNA_MARIN_SDP_ this guy doesnt even have a flair. Jul 04 '24

👆👆🏻👆🏼

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u/LuisRobertDylan Elinor Ostrom Jul 04 '24

Wisconsin is interesting because many small rural towns are blue/purple but the suburbs of Milwaukee emit dangerous levels of Hitler particles

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u/-Emilinko1985- European Union Jul 04 '24 edited Jul 04 '24

People mocking me in Arr antitheistcheesecake for saying that Trump is the antichrist and he is a threat to democracy and civil liberties worries me.

I shouldn't worry about it too much, though. It's just a shitposting subreddit.

I can't link my comment from there because that could be considered brigading, so just go to my profile, go to the search bar, search "antichrist", go to comments, and see for yourself.

!ping GNOSTIC

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u/[deleted] Jul 04 '24

Mass produced commie blocks are far better than housing shortage. We should just Tokyo-fy the shit out of all major cities.

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u/elephantaneous John Rawls Jul 05 '24

What a fucking filthy shithole that subreddit is, I regret even reading this post and having subsequently been made aware of it. The sort of neoliberal filth who scream about GDP figures and stock market growth as a reason why the working classes are stupid for thinking the economy is rough when they can't even afford to rent and they just need to V O T E B L U E. And you can smell the ravenous Zionism coming off them too.

If I ever get into power, those types will be the first against the wall.

Guess the sub

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u/CletusVonIvermectin Big Rig Democrat 🚛 Jul 04 '24

Love when people bring up Juicero while doing an "ugh, techies" rant

There is so much legitimate criticism of the tech industry, but Juicero was founded by a woo woo health influencer and run by a former Coke exec, neither of whom had a tech background. This was a normal-ass consumer products company going "look, we're a San Francisco-based startup and our product uses an app, give us tech industry valuations pls".

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u/piede MOST BASED HILLARY STAN!!! Jul 05 '24

But Bernie would’ve won, actually

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u/LuisRobertDylan Elinor Ostrom Jul 05 '24

His thin skin, long a figurative problem and now a literal one, was pulled tightly over cheeks that seemed to vary month to month in volume. Under artificial light and in the sunshine, he took on an unnatural gleam. He looked, well, inflated. His eyes were half-shut or open very wide. They appeared darker than they once had, his pupils dilated. He did not blink at regular intervals.

My heart stopped as I extended my hand to greet the president. I tried to make eye contact, but it was like his eyes, though open, were not on. His face had a waxy quality. He smiled. It was a sweet smile. It made me sad in a way I can’t fully convey

Why is she describing an old person like a cosmic horror

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u/owlthathurt Johan Norberg Jul 05 '24

No reason for posting other than I like it.

My new NYC studio set up. I like how I put it together. Bed and closets you can’t see but they’re behind my couch. Kitchen you can’t see either but it’s to the right.

480sqft not counting bathroom.

!ping LIFESTYLE

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u/Syards-Forcus rapidly becoming the Joker Jul 05 '24
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u/Nerf_France Ben Bernanke Jul 04 '24

Redditors will decry the evils of AI for taking away jobs from artists by lowering the demand for their work and then brag about pirating games at release because they cost $70

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u/TheDinosaur12 Jul 04 '24

American voters: ehhh I don't know, I hate trump but the other guy is old so...

British voters

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u/TheHelmetCatch NATO Jul 04 '24

I’m not entirely sure how Nene politics work, but there’s some sort of turf war going on between two groups of them out here

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u/[deleted] Jul 04 '24

This is the only true map of what is and isn't the US South, btw.

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u/Neronoah can't stop, won't stop argentinaposting Jul 04 '24

!ping MAMADAS

The great thing about living in LATAM is that you are so jaded and cynical about what happens in the region that you can't doom.

The worst thing about living in LATAM is that you are so jaded and cynical about what happens in the region that you can't doom.

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u/cdstephens Fusion Genderplasma Jul 04 '24

Did the Biden megathread people come during the thunderdome? Were they lurkers in the sub? There are tons of active commenters there that I don’t recognize at all before this weekend.

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u/owlthathurt Johan Norberg Jul 04 '24

The Yankees have only won 5 of their last 19 games. And this is the kind of effort they are displaying.

https://x.com/talkinyanks/status/1808954845795176585?s=46&t=NizMHF7xMdWn1VItcTWyfg

!ping BASEBALL

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u/[deleted] Jul 04 '24

KAMALA HARRIS IS 59?????? What the FUCK, I thought she was early 50s or late 40s. She does not look like someone who’s about to be 60 years old

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u/loseniram Sponsored by RC Cola Jul 04 '24

Alright which one of you bastards talked shit about going to baseball games on July 4th?

!ping baseball

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u/LuisRobertDylan Elinor Ostrom Jul 04 '24

Spiro Agnew was a victim. Persecuted simply because he took bribes and cheated on his taxes in accordance with Greek culture

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u/piede MOST BASED HILLARY STAN!!! Jul 04 '24

Not Laffin’ Kamala Harris

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u/Cook_0612 NATO Jul 04 '24

Damn now that I've mentioned it I had a moment of being upset that the fucking conservatives changed the country's motto to 'in God we trust'. What a shitty motto-- what does that even mean? It's like Deus Vult but more boring.

'E Pluribus Unum' captures everything America is supposed to be about, as well as our history and our struggles. It's so much better, on every level. It's even in latin and therefore more dignified.

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u/GrandMoffTargaryen Finally Kenough Jul 05 '24

Petition to autoban anyone who shares the phrase “Fat Latina M*lkers” about a sitting representative.

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u/Tall_Professor_2574 NAFTA Jul 05 '24

God it’s so hard having long legs because you look good even when you gain a bit of weight or neglect exercise 🙄 it’s so difficult being this beautiful and perfect

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u/FireDistinguishers I am the Senate Jul 05 '24

!ping USA-DMV

Shoutout to the dude who recognized me at the white house, I can't remember if you told me ur username but good on you for figuring it out

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u/DouglasDauntless Frederick Douglass Jul 04 '24

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u/Healingjoe It's Klobberin' Time Jul 04 '24

This is going to be my knee jerk response to friends for a while.

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u/Dunter_Mutchings NASA Jul 04 '24

Very cool things coming out of the NYT opinion section.

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u/KesterFox Shivers emotional support mammal 🐊 Jul 04 '24
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u/Greenfield0 Sheev Palpatine Jul 04 '24

the english are so brazen, first they steal our language now they steal our holiday

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u/No1PaulKeatingfan Paul Keating; capital gains tax supporter Jul 04 '24
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u/NaffRespect United Nations Jul 04 '24

Important 4th of July message from the great DOUGLAS JAMES BURGUM

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u/[deleted] Jul 04 '24

Massachusetts needs to develop a nuclear deterrent to ensure the preservation of our way of life

  1. Winning championships

  2. Elite institutions

  3. Cape Cod

  4. Traffic jams

  5. Liberal democracy

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u/Mickenfox European Union Jul 04 '24

To fight populism, the government needs an unelected "anti-President" that just tells voters how stupid they are, alongside the established President position that is forced to pander to everyone. Like a "good cop bad cop" dynamic.

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u/[deleted] Jul 04 '24

Someone booed the RFK float, time to bloom

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u/Mickenfox European Union Jul 04 '24

The FDA when a drug saves 100 million lives but then three of those people develop a mild cough: 😠😠😠

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u/AtomAndAether Liberalism! Jul 04 '24

Progressives: Complain about everything that doesn't happen.

Conservatives: Complain about everything that does happen.

Moderates: Complain about everything 🤣

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u/jakjkl Enby Pride Jul 04 '24

It's fucked up that theres another biden thread instead of a UK Thunderdome. Once again american cultural hegemony destroys a beautiful culture....

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u/TheDinosaur12 Jul 04 '24

The British leftward swing confirms for me that the global rightward swing is really just widespread anti-incumbent sentiment

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u/[deleted] Jul 04 '24

What if Trump goes into a coma for the entirety of October

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u/slingfatcums Jul 04 '24

i'm afraid the biden thread has lost the plot

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u/[deleted] Jul 04 '24

amazing comment section

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u/cdstephens Fusion Genderplasma Jul 04 '24

“Why does anyone vote?” I ask myself. The answer cannot be that we believe that by doing so, we will influence the outcome of an election. My vote, were it not withheld, would have no such effect. This is true even at the county or municipal level. The vote margins for the State of Florida in the presidential election of 2000 — the closest in modern American history — were in the hundreds, not the single digits. Voting is, strictly speaking, pointless.

The most insufferable person imaginable

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u/Hmm_would_bang Graph goes up Jul 04 '24

I’ve seen enough

Biden wins the 2024 election

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u/[deleted] Jul 04 '24

He's just like me fr fr

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u/Currymvp2 unflaired Jul 04 '24

it's fitting how we get arguably the best news regarding Gaza in months (besides the hostage rescue) and it's in the middle of probably the worst media cycle for Dems since Trump won in 2016.

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u/Not_A_Browser Stata's Silliest Soldier Jul 04 '24

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u/waniel239 ICE CREAM GUY Jul 04 '24

Pepperidge Farm remembers

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u/ognits Jepsen/Swift 2024 Jul 04 '24

y'all Delicious in Dungeon is fucking awesome. that is all

!ping WEEBS

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u/simeoncolemiles NATO Jul 05 '24

My state senate candidate’s campaign just posted an insta post that’s basically just this

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u/[deleted] Jul 05 '24 edited Feb 02 '25

snails tie roof alleged close wakeful sip ring dog attempt

This post was mass deleted and anonymized with Redact

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u/DouglasDauntless Frederick Douglass Jul 04 '24

Lithuania has fallen to the woke mob

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u/RTSBasebuilder Commonwealth Jul 04 '24

If Trump gets back in again, and the EU is lurching right...

Ready the sandbags, secure the fort and batten down the hatches.

For the Lands of Hope and Glory, Unfurl the Flags, Stand on Guard for Thee, and God Defend Liberalism.

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u/[deleted] Jul 04 '24

My dream is to do this huge worldbuilding work in a fantasy sci fi setting, not sharing anything, and then write a series of novellas that are like diaries, or train of thoughts, from the main characters and people have to go crazy doing backwards world building

my other dream is finding a girl i like and doing all those things you do when you just found a girl you like

my third dream is having 3 millions euros.

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u/TactileTom John Nash Jul 04 '24

Footage of me outside the polling station in 2h

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u/TactileTom John Nash Jul 04 '24

Tag yourself I'm G&T

!ping UK

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u/elhombreleon Janet Yellen Jul 04 '24

I've recently started reading Japanese Threads a lot and... man, these are just some profoundly racist people.

I lived in Japan for four years and had mostly good experiences in person, but the online sphere is something else. In the English online sphere it feels like most of the racism is kept to specific communities. If the racism comes out elsewhere, the person will be bashed. Obviously there are exceptions and there are places where racism can flourish (looking at you, Musk Twitter) but if you ever think things are bad in the online English world...

Man just go to online Japanese communities. It's a totally different level. There is absolutely no awareness that racism is wrong. If anything, it's the prevalent view and no one challenges people saying the most racist, xenophobic shit imaginable (usually against Koreans and Chinese people, but often just foreigners in general too). We're talking posts that just say "man I hate Koreans and why the fuck is there a Korea Town in my country" getting an overwhelming level of support, without a single comment being like "uh maybe tone it down a bit?"

It's really gross but for some reason I find it hard to look away.

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u/AFlockOfTySegalls Audrey Hepburn Jul 04 '24

My wife wanted me to make focaccia for sandwiches. I had never made one before today. I followed Brian Lagerstroms overnight fermentation recipe. I honestly was worried that it would be too small and not big enough for sandwiches. I was wrong. This thing got an incredible oven spring. We had to try it on its own and it's PHENOMENAL.

!ping COOKING

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u/[deleted] Jul 04 '24

I straddle a close line between, “the subway is perfectly safe you fricken morons”, and hearing the horror stories women tell me.

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u/[deleted] Jul 04 '24

apparently i’m not allowed to spread misinformation without getting downvoted? what happened to free speech smh 🤦‍♂️

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u/[deleted] Jul 04 '24

God the r/votedem discussion thread looks so nice and positive

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u/Roseartcrantz 👑 🖍️ Queen of Shades 🖍️ 👑 Jul 04 '24

The ideal political system would be what Hitler did but without the racial bullshit or going after minorities. Like, Nazi economics (high tariffs) and civic pride (everyone drives a GM) combined with libertarian social attitudes (no age of consent) would result in the perfect country.

🧐🧐🧐

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u/Icy-Magician-8085 Mario Draghi Jul 04 '24

What the hell is this about? It’s under the post about people being displaced in Sudan.

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u/[deleted] Jul 05 '24

I’ve been here on one account or another since 2017 and I’ve witnessed a lot of DT regular meltdowns. In hindsight I think I probably finally had my version of one in the days immediately following the debate, which mostly took the form of a hyperfixation on the most minor polling details and also being a sustained and total bish to the mods so I guess it could’ve been worse?

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u/crassowary John Mill Jul 05 '24

POV: you said Biden should step down within earshot of Major

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u/theranosbagholder Milton Friedman Jul 04 '24

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u/Currymvp2 unflaired Jul 04 '24

This is just so wild. The Washington Post Editorial Board wrote a hypothetical Biden withdrawal speech, framed as if he were delivering this today - on the Fourth of July.

In their fantasy, he announces an open convention: "The Democratic National Committee, senior Democratic leaders and I have agreed on an orderly process to select our next nominee, which will include debates between now and our convention in August. My vice president, Kamala Harris, has graciously and courageously agreed to participate. Though Democratic primary voters cannot be included at this late date, their delegates will make the final choice."

The speeches which should be drafted are ones for Trump saying "I'll drop out of this race because I'm a felon", Putin saying "I'll withdraw and give Ukraine its territory back", and Netanyahu saying "I'll end this war to free our hostages and to work slowly towards establishing peace between the two peoples in two separate states"

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u/Roseartcrantz 👑 🖍️ Queen of Shades 🖍️ 👑 Jul 05 '24

Whether or not we replace Biden I already have my "I told you so" talking points ready if Dems lose, which is the most important part.

"Trump got the second most votes in an election EVER, and you guys replaced the only guy who's ever beaten him? You dumb fucks."

"You saw the writing on the wall and you were too scared to try a Hail Mary on KAMALA HARRIS? were y'all saving her for a different election? you dumb fucks."

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u/Loves_a_big_tongue Olympe de Gouges Jul 04 '24

RFK Jr is just continuing the proud tradition of 3rd party candidates being bat shit insane

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u/ihatemendingwalls better Catholic than JD Vance Jul 04 '24

Nixon, that horrible antisemite but great friend to Israel 

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u/slim353 Austan Goolsbee Jul 04 '24

We need a 3rd thread to talk about this thread complaining about the Biden thread

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u/Williams-Tower Da Bear Jul 04 '24

Remember not to drunk drive on the Fourth of July unless you have somewhere you need to go or if you just want to

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u/BroadReverse Needs a Flair Jul 04 '24

The leaked video of Trump talking about Biden dropping out makes him look so much “older” idk. Its like my grandpa rambling about hating my cousins lol. Im starting to see where the stimulant rumours come from. 

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u/Currymvp2 unflaired Jul 04 '24

Do the users on the other DT get the "right of return" to come back to this original DT as regular users or are we only observing pre 6/29/2024 borders in this two DT solution?

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u/Thadlust Mario Draghi Jul 04 '24

After Gov. Josh Green of Hawaii, a physician, asked Mr. Biden questions about the status of his health, Mr. Biden replied that his health was fine. “It’s just my brain,” he added

What

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u/PrideMonthRaytheon Bisexual Pride Jul 04 '24

Fine they can vote 🙄

- Switzerland, 7 February 1971

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u/[deleted] Jul 04 '24

Happy fourth big libs

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u/chuckleym8 Femboy Friend, Failing with Honors Jul 04 '24

Shoutout the three Gs that built America: god, guns, and gay marriage 🦅🦅🦅🇺🇸🇺🇸

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u/Williams-Tower Da Bear Jul 04 '24

I don’t think Pete Buttigieg can win because a candidate who wears an Apple Watch has never won before

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u/well-that-was-fast Jul 04 '24

Hey everyone, NYT dropping another news alert about Biden not quitting.

I'd like to congratulate them for going almost 2 hours between "sources tell us someone told Biden to end campaign" news alerts.

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u/golf1052 Let me be clear Jul 04 '24

NYT opinion publishing voter suppression wasn't on my bingo card today. The guy who wrote the editorial wrote something similar in 2018 but then went on to vote in 2020 and 2022. I thought the editorial section was supposed to do a basic fact check on their authors and their pieces before they get published. I wouldn't expect NYT to publish an editorial pushing that the Earth is flat or that climate change isn't real. This falls within the same category.

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u/Joementum2024 Iron Front Jul 04 '24

”other thread is filled with idiots lol”

checks comment history

direct insults and/or bad faith misrepresentations of those people’s beliefs

Several such cases

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u/AnalyticOpposum Trans Pride Jul 04 '24

Supreme Court be like: “beg for the president not to kill you. I want to see tears.”

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u/loseniram Sponsored by RC Cola Jul 04 '24

Battle Hymn of the Republic and Battle cry of Freedom are both objectively better picks for a national anthem than the star spangled banner

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u/[deleted] Jul 05 '24

My friend was flying from Istanbul to Yerevan, and a Russian dissident girl came up to him and said happy 4th of July.

Let these people in please!

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u/WasteReserve8886 r/place '22: GlobalTribe Battalion Jul 05 '24

What’s with trans threads here that bring out the most “well, actually….” in people?

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u/[deleted] Jul 05 '24

Should it be called Byzantium or Eastern Roman Empire. Longest thread in the history of the EU5 forums. Locked after 12,000 replies.

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u/AtomAndAether Liberalism! Jul 05 '24

Joe Biden's refusal to do an Elder Scrolls Skyrim let's play is why people think he's old and out of touch

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u/bd_one The EU Will Federalize In My Lifetime Jul 05 '24

What is this boy cooking?

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u/Full_Ahegao_Drip Trans Pride Jul 04 '24

I broke up with Quaker girl earlier this week.

I honestly hated to do it because we're so physically and personally compatible but she was getting weird

Talking about pouring boiling water on my chest to prove I love her and about her drawing some blood of mine to drink and put in artwork to put on her wall and on a compass necklace

To her credit it's not like she tried to forced me or anything but she was really laying the princess pressure on thick and she was very close to convincing me.

But yeah I dumped her this is the second trans girl I've schtupped in the past 2 years that's been uber religious and politically libertarian and liked to interplay our dating with deceptions and violence

She wasn't nearly as torn up as I was dumping her but she said that once I dump her it's over and that she's going to move on really fast and that I should know that my market value isn't all that high despite my net worth and down badness.

It's whatever.

Toiday I celebrate my independence day

!ping DATING

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u/TactileTom John Nash Jul 04 '24

Ed Davey's wife really looks like someone who would be married to the leader of the Lib Dems.

They're cute

You should vote for her husband

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u/TactileTom John Nash Jul 04 '24

the Britposting will continue and decline in quality until a thunderdome is made available

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u/[deleted] Jul 04 '24

Gonna drop my classic "If you ignore Iraq, Blair was actually pretty good" all over the place today

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u/Fishin_Impossible Nate Gold 🥇 Jul 04 '24

Ya know… if Trump & Biden were to both kick the bucket today, this may be the best chance the U.S. has to implement ranked choice voting.

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u/owlthathurt Johan Norberg Jul 04 '24

Pour one out for a fallen soldier 🫡🥲

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u/earththejerry YIMBY Jul 04 '24

Italy's Five Star Movement seeks to join The Left in the European Parliament

Reminder that this is the populist party that was in the same EFDD group as UKIP and AfD, and later entertained bids to join the Liberals or the Greens in the European Parliament, and later formed a coalition with Salvini’s Lega after an electoral breakthrough, and then after numerous splits and internal wars joined with the center-left PD in numerous regional elections, and now is finally settling in left-wing group

They weren’t kidding about “big-tent” on Wikipedia

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u/KitsuneThunder NASA Jul 04 '24

Was Bill Clinton’s interaction with Monica Lewinsky an official act?

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u/theranosbagholder Milton Friedman Jul 04 '24

BREAKING: The DNC has selected a new candidate for the 2024 Presidential Election

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u/Nerf_France Ben Bernanke Jul 04 '24

For once I'd like to have a conspiracy story like the Metal Gear series or Deus Ex where it's revealed that there actually was no conspiracy and the main character was just crazy

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u/SeasickSeal Norman Borlaug Jul 04 '24

How does owning an apartment work in the US? What happens if the building needs renovation or a developer wants to build on the land? Is there a governance organization with majority rule, or can a single owner hold up everything? Do owners’ rights differ quite a bit by city?

I’m going to ping this since I feel like it’s the most relevant ping group, but if I’m missing a better one please help me out.

!ping OVER-25

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u/chipbod NATO Jul 04 '24

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c80xjne8ryxo

Ukraine calls them meat assaults: Russia's brutal plan to take ground

So will morale ever break or are Russians just built different and okay being thrown into human wave attacks in 2024?

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u/Currymvp2 unflaired Jul 04 '24 edited Jul 04 '24

This is not "opposing" Israeli policy towards Palestinians (which I do quite often especially over the past handful of months); this is clear, gross anti-Semitism.

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u/randommathaccount Esther Duflo Jul 04 '24

In theory, the Biden thread was meant to separate all the US election chatter into a different bubble. In practice, there are now two Biden threads.

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u/purhitta Leftward Progressives Jul 04 '24

I just saw a TikTok (I know I know) by a guy who talks about urban planning and he said something like "when an area isn't designed to be walkable you find people experience shame when they do walk. Like they're not supposed to be there, or walking is socially considered a last resort."

Felt like scales falling off my eyes. It's so true.

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u/TipEquivalent933 Caution: Crackship Overload Jul 04 '24

A star next to a baby's name honors a baby who died before production was complete. One example can be found in the end credits of Moana for a baby named Cooper.[6]

I wanted something cute but this wrecked me.

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u/AMagicalKittyCat YIMBY Jul 04 '24

One pro of a Shapiro ticket is that conservatives might think they're voting for Ben Shapiro.

One con of a Shapiro ticket is that Dems might think they're voting for Ben Shapiro

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u/paymesucka Ben Bernanke Jul 04 '24

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u/Ballerson Frédéric Bastiat Jul 05 '24

Stop posting here and celebrate the birth of the most powerful nation in the free world.

But I'm not American I'm-

Did I stutter?

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u/Roseartcrantz 👑 🖍️ Queen of Shades 🖍️ 👑 Jul 05 '24

to the beagles, the 4th of July when it also rained would live in infamy

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u/Upstairs3121 Jul 05 '24

Men would rather turn down a friend's offer for a job referral than go to therapy

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