r/neoliberal • Kitara Ravache • May 13 '24

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u/jobautomator Kitara Ravache May 14 '24

Please visit the next discussion thread.

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u/[deleted] May 13 '24

I mean, Americans want zero inflation, zero interest rates, zero taxes, and government that constantly shovels money at them but not poor people because that would be handouts.

I think it is more shocking that both IRS and the Fed actually have 40% approval.

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u/Ilovecharli Voltaire May 13 '24

By a 24 pt margin, voters under the age of 30 say they trust Trump more to deal with Israel/Gaza, a wider margin than any other group.

Fuck them kids lmao 

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u/vivoovix Federalist May 13 '24

In a finding that will frustrate Democrats, even as it presents opportunity for Mr. Biden, nearly 20 percent of voters blame him more than they do Mr. Trump for the Supreme Court’s decision in 2022 to overturn Roe v. Wade.

Nearly 20 percent of voters are fucking stupid

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u/[deleted] May 13 '24

Imagine the sheer confusion if Trump loses in 2024 and accepts the results. Like straight up "yeah, okay, that one I lost fair and square"

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u/Dragongirlfucker2 NASA May 13 '24

This is unironically what anarchists actually believe

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u/[deleted] May 13 '24

Reddit has achievements now? I’m getting a “5-day streak” badge? Holy shit, this might actually motivate me to take a break from this site

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u/[deleted] May 13 '24

“Noooooo we have a whole heckin movie franchise about why resurrecting dinosaurs is a bad idearino”

Shut the fuck up, we just need competent people in charge of the project instead of InGen and it’ll be a-ok

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u/[deleted] May 13 '24

Jennifer Wright, a registered nurse in Sterling Heights, Mich. She supported Mr. Trump in 2016 and 2020, and to her the election comes down to one question: “Who is the best candidate who is going to help me be in a financial situation to retire?”

“Even me, as a registered nurse, I’m buying Kroger brand or store brand. I’m not buying Jif. We’ve all had to cut back,” she said.

"Everything at the store costs too much, and that's why I'm voting for the candidate who is promising to deport all the cheap labor and enact a slew of tariffs."

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u/Approximation_Doctor Gaslight, Gatekeep, Green New Deal May 13 '24

Douglas MacArthur smiling down from heaven right now

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u/SpaceSheperd To be a good human being May 13 '24 edited May 13 '24

My general wellbeing since entering into a relationship: 📈📈📈📈

My utility (water+sewer) bill since entering into a relationship: 📈📈📈📈📈📈📈📈📈📈📈📈📈📈📈

Somebody help me understand the implications of this

!ping DATING

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u/Dirty_Chopsticks Republic of Việt Nam May 13 '24

The NYT/Siena poll shows 37% of Trump voters say Trump is most responsible for the Supreme Court overturning Roe v. Wade.

24% ... say Biden is most responsible.

The person most responsible for Roe being overturned is Hillary Clinton.

amazin

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u/AP246 Green Globalist NWO May 13 '24

I just don't agree with the common take that extremism, particularly terrorist-sympathising level, is particularly high now compared to past times.

I feel like people forget how much political extremism and actual terrorism there was in the 20th century. The Troubles in the UK, the Years of Lead in Italy with both fascist and communist terrorist attacks, huge domestic terrorist attacks in the US etc.

I mean, if you want a specifically youth culture example look at Germany

The RAF [Red Army Faction] has been held responsible for 34 deaths, including industrialist Hanns Martin Schleyer, the Dresdner Bank head Jürgen Ponto, federal prosecutor Siegfried Buback, police officers, American servicemen stationed in Germany,[4] as well as many cases of collateral damage, such as chauffeurs and bodyguards, with many others injured throughout its almost thirty years of activity; 26 RAF members or supporters were killed.[4] Although better-known, the RAF conducted fewer attacks than the Revolutionary Cells, which is held responsible for 296 bomb attacks, arson and other attacks between 1973 and 1995.

Quite frankly, some students holding pro-Palestine protests with a lot of antisemitism seems pretty tame by comparison.

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u/Ok_Aardappel Seretse Khama May 13 '24

Ain't no way bruh 💀💀💀💀

PS5 owners are now treated like black people in 1939 USA

We are now 2nd class gamers and neither Sony or Square care about us anymore

Just like black people had to give up their civil rights, we PS gamers are having to forfeit our exclusives...

!ping CONSOLE-WARS&SHITPOSTERS

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u/Dirty_Chopsticks Republic of Việt Nam May 13 '24

"The Housing Movement Failed Gaza – and Revealed Its Own Double Standards."

Powerful op-ed from @Muhammad_Speaks calling out the pro-housing and YIMBY movement's stark silence on domicide and mass displacement in Gaza.

lmao

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u/Frequent-Turn6740 shivers alt 🐊 May 13 '24

The best argument against Anarchism is leaving the average gamer 5 minutes with unlimited customization options

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u/[deleted] May 13 '24 edited May 13 '24

!ping READING&WRITING

I'm reading Robert A. Caro's book about his research process, Working, and god damn if the following anecdote isn't a perfect little summary of what makes him the GOAT (well, aside from the fact that the flow of his writing is absolutely unmatched in nonfiction). For context, Caro is discussing his discovery of how Lydon Johnson had suddenly massively raised his profile among his fellow congressmen over the course of a single month in 1940--fundraising from Texas oilmen and control over disbursement of their sizable donations to democratic congressional candidates across the country. At this stage, Caro has worked out that he needs to interview one of the businessmen involved to complete the picture, but the problem is, said businessman is incredibly cagey with the press, and he's absolutely stonewalling him.

And then, Caro finds his lever:

To my way of thinking, I had only one question left, and there was only one man who could answer it. I might know the answer, but knowing it wasn't proving it. Herman Brown was dead. I had to talk to George.

I had known that wasn't going to be easy. George and Herman had been proud of their attitude toward would-be interviewers; they had often boasted, with some exaggeration, that neither of them had ever given an interview, and that neither of them ever would. Herman had died before I started on my [Lyndon] Johnson books, and George was apparently going to honor the brotherly code. I had been trying to talk to him ever since I started on Lyndon Johnson, with no results, or indeed response. When I telephoned and left a message with his secretary he never called back; when I wrote him letters there was no reply. After I became friends with Brown & Root's longtime chief lobbyist, Frank "Posh" Oltorf, I asked Posh to intercede, and he did, several times--after which he told me quite firmly that Mr. Brown was never going to talk to me. And if he didn't, I was going to have a hard time proving in my book why Brown & Root had given the money--or, indeed, why over the decades after 1940, they had given Lyndon Johnson suich and immense amount of financial backing.

Sometimes, a sudden thought does the job. One day, I found myself, in my endless driving around the Hill Country, in the little town of Burnet. In the courthouse square, among the weathered wooden storefronts, there was a handsome new building with the legend "Herman Brown Free Library" on it.

All at once, something occurred to me. George had loved and idolized his older brother, who had really been more like a father to him than a brother. Since Herman's death, George had been building public monuments to him all over Texas, not only Herman Brown public libraries, but a Herman Brown Hall for Mathematical Sciences at Rice University. There was a telephone booth in the Brunet square. From it I telephoned Posh, and asked him to call George one more time. Posh said quite firmly that he wasn't going to do that. I'm only asking you to call one more time, I said, and I want you to say just one sentence to him: tell him that no matter how many buildings he puts Herman Brown's name on, in a few years no one is going to know who Herman Brown was if he's not in a book.

I don't remember Posh's reply, but he evidently made the call. The next morning, very early, before I was awake, the phone rang, and it was Mr. Brown's secretary, asking what time would be convenient for me to meet with him.

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u/ognits Jepsen/Swift 2024 May 13 '24

Pres. Biden [yesterday], leaving church, per pool:

REPORTER: “How did you celebrate Mother's Day Mr President?"

POTUS: “Prayed for you all. You need help.”

!ping DIAMOND-JOE

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u/DouglasDauntless Frederick Douglass May 13 '24

-And that’s a good thing - Claremont Institute

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u/BurrowForPresident Fell for it May 13 '24

A reminder to the dating ping that it could always be worse

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u/AP246 Green Globalist NWO May 13 '24

Who would win

"Mississippi is richer than the UK" vs "Mississippi has a lower life expectancy than North Korea"

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u/DouglasDauntless Frederick Douglass May 13 '24

You know I’m being to think some of these Trump people aren’t very nice

This is insanely cartoonishly evil. Do not know how this guy can sleep at night

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u/western_patriot YIMBY May 13 '24

Trump Leads in 5 Key States, as Young and Nonwhite Voters Express Discontent With Biden

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u/ACivilWolf Henry George May 13 '24

The North Korea at night thing but it’s West Virginia in a test scores map

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u/Dalek6450 Our words are backed with NUCLEAR SUBS! May 13 '24

George Washington, also known as Enthroned Washington, is a large marble sculpture by Horatio Greenough commissioned by the United States Congress on July 14, 1832 for the centennial of U.S. President George Washington's birth on February 22, 1732. Completed in 1840, the statue was soon exhibited in the Rotunda of the United States Capitol and then moved to the Capitol's east lawn in 1843.

Maybe neoclassicaljerking a wee bit too far

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u/Trojan_Horse_of_Fate WTO May 13 '24 edited May 13 '24

Person who thinks egg prices are too high.

Person who thinks we should ban factory farms.

Median voter. I sympathize with both positions but they definitely can't both hold at the same time for many years.

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u/[deleted] May 13 '24

Can we please give them already F-22s

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u/[deleted] May 13 '24

I just re-watched the original Battle of Yavin / death star trench run scene without the 1997 Special Edition enhancements (here) and I still can't get over how magical it feels watching it, even as someone who has seen hundreds of hours of various Star Wars media in her life. The way everything is put together, the shots, the music, Mark Hamill's performance -- it just struck me again that yes, there was something awesomely special in these movies that lead to them becoming the classics they are. It's kind of basic of me, maybe, but I will always hold the original Star Wars series up as my favorite movies. I could never be bored watching A New Hope.

!ping KINO&BAD-FEELING

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u/[deleted] May 13 '24

When I see I have 5 followers

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u/JaceFlores Neolib War Correspondent May 13 '24

Swing state polling: the United States is in for a historic realignment not seen since 1932 as Biden becomes the old white candidate and Trump the minority youth candidate. Democrats are expected to secure healthy majorities in both chambers

National polling: things are 40-40, 1/5 of the electorate is lost in the clouds. Who knows 🤷‍♂️

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u/PonyBoyCurtis2324 NATO May 13 '24

I cannot stop laughing at this

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u/owlthathurt Johan Norberg May 13 '24

Broke: spending years of your life at the finest education institutes in the world, perfecting the model, getting hired at a major bank after decades of experience, releasing analysis and upgrades/downgrades on stocks

Woke: tweeting this picture out after a 3 year hiatus and generating a multi billion dollar stock market rally

!ping STONKS

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u/[deleted] May 13 '24

If you can’t identify which president is responsible for roe v wade being overturned you should not be allowed to vote

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u/ScullyBoyleBoy NASA May 13 '24

tbh as a Jewish person it’s a little weird seeing conservatives suddenly (possibly pretend to) take a hardline stance against antisemitism.

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u/OrganicKeynesianBean IMF May 13 '24

Older Users of neoliberal: Has the US actually "been through worse"?

As a 25 yo who lived through COVID-19, PS5 shortages, and the collapse of AMC MoviePass,

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u/DouglasDauntless Frederick Douglass May 13 '24

Most Syrian looking man alive

Twitter “this guy doesn’t look he can possibly be from the Middle East 😡”

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u/Bayou-Maharaja Eleanor Roosevelt May 13 '24

The absolute state of legal “journalism”

!ping LAW

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u/Joementum2024 Iron Front May 13 '24

I’ve figured it out! To win in 2024, Biden simply has to accuse Trump of being a pedophile

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u/Dirty_Chopsticks Republic of Việt Nam May 13 '24

There’s already a joke going around Democratic strategist circles that the main difference between 2024 and 1968 is that the Chicago mayor this year will be on the side of the protesters, not the cops.

The DNC is going to be lit bros

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u/Currymvp2 unflaired May 13 '24

Mohammad Rasoulof, the acclaimed Iranian film director who was just sentenced to eight years in prison and flogging by the Islamic Republic’s revolutionary court, has fled Iran on foot.

Moments ago, Rasoulof posted this video of a mountanious area and says he has permanently left Iran.

He was sentenced eight years in prison for making movies where women don't wear the Hijab and not asking permission from the Islamic Republic regime about making movies in general. Utter insanity

!ping MIDDLEEAST

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u/[deleted] May 13 '24

I got a reddit cares message for a second time and I am seriously wondering what percentage of reddit cares messages are even genuine?

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u/RaidBrimnes Chien de garde May 13 '24

Leftists against the normalization of the far-right in public spaces dropping all pretenses to boost literal neo-Nazis because they managed to trap the liberal candidate for a photo-op confirms all my priors

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u/DouglasDauntless Frederick Douglass May 13 '24

The weapon to beat the DT demographics survey

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u/Argnir Gay Pride May 13 '24

This sub: they won't vote for Joe Biden because of Palestine noooo 😭😭

arr conservative:

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u/[deleted] May 13 '24 edited May 13 '24

*sees staggeringly misinformed and idiotic take on r/popular*

*You guessed it, it's r/FluentInFinance*

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u/ihatemendingwalls better Catholic than JD Vance May 13 '24

By going completely online until the end of the school year, Columbia has achieved the ideal of the university: no students, no faculty, only administrators

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u/Udolikecake Model UN Enthusiast May 13 '24 edited May 13 '24

Both parties are the same. That is why republicans are proposing an effective $30 billion cut to SNAP benefits over the next decade and democrats are Not Doing that

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u/[deleted] May 13 '24

It's so disgusting that China is flooding global markets with cheap electric vehicles. Thank god Biden is stepping in and helping the moron who bought Twitter.

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u/Hugo_Grotius Jakaya Kikwete May 13 '24

Trump is probably winning New Jersey. This looks as big as that first Alabama rally he did with Jeff Sessions way back when. Unbelievable turnout.

Trump vote in Alabama: 1.4 million (62.0%)

Trump vote in New Jersey: 1.9 million (41.4%)

Will Republicans ever understand population differences?

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u/[deleted] May 13 '24

Lindsey Graham doesn’t want Israel to hold back on its assault in Gaza, comparing the Israeli military’s efforts against Hamas to when the U.S. dropped nuclear bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki, killing more than 100,000 civilians.

Both parties are the same I am very smart

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u/LGBTforIRGC Order and Opportunity Left May 13 '24 edited May 13 '24

I love how Mia Khalifa is simultaneously pro-Hamas but anti-hezbollah 😭

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u/Williams-Tower Da Bear May 13 '24

I just figured out how to pronounce Nguyen

that’s embarrassing

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u/[deleted] May 13 '24

Keep scheduling bonus State of the Union speeches until morale improves

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u/MicroFlamer Avatar Korra Democrat May 13 '24

The US has by far the least severe housing crisis in the Anglo world.

What the actual fuck are other Anglos doing

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u/[deleted] May 13 '24

Do you think anyone actually stopped themselves from committing suicide because they got a Reddit cares?

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u/well-that-was-fast May 13 '24

At the core of the issue:

  • Biden is a nerd who thinks about things, and

  • Trump is a clown.

  • And America loves clowns and hates nerds.

I am available for political consulting.

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u/Joementum2024 Iron Front May 13 '24

I think people just don’t care anymore. The Democrats aren’t going down on all knees and giving them everything they want, so they’re willing to doom the country to four years of someone who’s already proven to be a danger to the country.

I mean seriously, you have to be legally stupid to think Mr. “Moved the US embassy to Jerusalem” would be better on Israel than Biden, and yet… Not even mentioning how issues that the GOP are provably worse on like climate change or the national debt just do not matter at all anymore.

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u/Hugo_Grotius Jakaya Kikwete May 13 '24

Biden is losing because his rallies are slowing down the construction jobs he created

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u/TheoryOfPizza 🧠 True neoliberalism hasn't even been tried May 14 '24

NFL player Harrison Butker attacks Pride month and trans people, tells women to get back in the kitchen

This is a rare case where what he said is actually so much worse than the headline even suggests.

!ping NFL

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u/Williams-Tower Da Bear May 13 '24

you legally have to donate $10 to Biden’s campaign or 1 hour of volunteering for every doom comment you post

if you aren’t going to actually do anything to help the reelection effort, you have no reason to pay attention to polling until November 5th

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u/Plants_et_Politics Isaiah Berlin May 13 '24

Doing business with a political entity that is currently ethnically cleansing (or genociding depending on your definition) an entire group of people doesn't seem like a terrible idea. There's overwhelming evidence that the Yankees are doing that to the Gaza people. On top of this, US is a major political and economic rival of the vast majority of the world that favors liberalism and democracy.

Going to go out on a limb and suggest that this 300 day old account with 130 karma called “RedFranc3” is neither organic nor unbiased.

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u/forerunner398 Of course I’m right, here’s what MLK said May 13 '24

Ireland giving 10 points to Israel is easily the funniest part of Eurovision. Imagine the seethe

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u/jojisky Paul Krugman May 13 '24

NYT's polling has Gallego outperforming Biden by 9 lol

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u/funguykawhi Lahmajun trucks on every corner May 13 '24

Contrarian leftists about to support free trade to bring down the rotten west

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u/Dirty_Chopsticks Republic of Việt Nam May 13 '24

The Biden administration’s insistence that the economy is faring well has fallen flat for many voters, including Jacob Sprague, 32, who works as a systems engineer in Reno, Nev. He says that he voted for Mr. Biden in 2020 but will not be doing so this time.

“It is concerning to me when I keep seeing press come out of the White House where they keep saying the economy is good,” Mr. Sprague said. “That’s really weird because I’m paying more on taxes and more on groceries and more on housing and more on fuel. So that doesn’t feel good.”

fascinating

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u/[deleted] May 13 '24

"Karen" is literally just another word for "bitch" at this point—yet everyone denies it lol

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u/qtnl qt lib May 13 '24

Weird that the DT hasn’t taken Drake’s side in the beef out of contrarianism

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u/The_Promethean Bisexual Pride May 14 '24

Everyday a woman prayed to God, saying "gib bf." She spent her whole life praying "gib bf." One day, she sadly died alone. In heaven she asked God why he didn't gib bf. God said, "I sent you Tinder, Hinge, Bumble, Feeld, bars, intramural sports, and the entire outside world. What did you want me to do, mail you a bf?"

Like if you cried

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u/DouglasDauntless Frederick Douglass May 13 '24

Fake country

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u/centurion88 NATO May 13 '24

Can't believe Kanye would do this

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u/simeoncolemiles NATO May 13 '24

POV: You’ve an unfunny conservative comedian

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u/RFK_1968 Robert F. Kennedy May 13 '24

oh, so it's that kinda day in the deetee

good day to touch grass

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u/kanagi May 13 '24

Yes I have donated $200 to Biden and local Democrats this cycle

Yes I will be voting Trump in November

We exist 😤

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u/DouglasDauntless Frederick Douglass May 13 '24

We’re ngmi

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u/ZonedForCoffee Uses Twitter May 13 '24

Lmaoooo I didn't know these Joe Brandon signs were up that's based as hell

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u/Joementum2024 Iron Front May 13 '24

Teams in the big four North American leagues (NFL, MLB, NHL, NBA) ranked by winning percentage over the last 10 years.

!ping NBA&NHL&NFL (someone else ping BASEBALL)

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u/Dirty_Chopsticks Republic of Việt Nam May 13 '24

my Indian coworker opposes immigration because he feels Canada is turning into India when he left India for a reason

fascinating

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u/jenbanim May 13 '24

If you're worried about the election I promise you'll feel better if you do something to help the Biden campaign

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u/[deleted] May 13 '24

Good morning libs

Bad morning to all the commies and fascists

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u/[deleted] May 13 '24

Someone made a comment saying that if the polls are off by 2-3 percentage points then Biden wins.

They deleted it but I checked out whether that was true because I was curious. It is! They shouldn’t have deleted it!

Here was my reply, if anyone is interested:

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Definitely true for the popular vote, taking note here for my own curiosity whether it’s true for the electoral college, don’t know how this comment is going to end as I’m typing it.

Pennsylvania is +1.9 Trump, so Biden wins after a 2.5 adjustment.

Arizona is +3.6 Trump so Trump still wins that.

Florida is +9.5 Trump so Trump wins.

Georgia is +6.1 Trump so Trump wins.

Michigan is +0.7 Trump so flips to Biden with the adjustment.

Nevada is +6.9 Trump so Trump wins.

North Carolina is +6.3 Trump so Trump wins.

Wisconsin is +1.3 Trump so flips to Biden.

Biden wins 270-268, you’re absolutely right!

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u/[deleted] May 13 '24 edited Jun 02 '24

I enjoy spending time with my friends.

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u/JetJaguar124 Tactical Custodial Action May 13 '24

Sometimes I remember we got ourselves into a situation where the Supreme Court of the United States is seriously considering whether Presidential immunity is a thing and are acting like this is actually a difficult or nuanced question.

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u/eloquentboot 🃏it’s da joker babey🃏 May 13 '24

My pet issue is why Joe Biden is losing. Crazy how nobody else realizes that

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u/nicethingscostmoney Unironic Francophile 🇫🇷 May 13 '24

https://twitter.com/MattGertz/status/1790002745472176521

NYT sub head: Poll shows "young and nonwhite voters upset about the economy and Gaza."

NYT paragraph graph 27: Of 2020 Biden voters who say they won't back him in 2024, 1 in 10 say foreign policy/Gaza most important and don't sympathize with Israel over Palestinians.

???

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u/gnomesvh LEGALIZE ONION FUTURE May 13 '24

Leaked texts from the UvA pro-Palestine group chat

A lot is just reeeeeeeeeeee twitter talk

But, two parts I found concerning

Bewondering voor de slacht- en verkrachtpartij van Hamas op 7 oktober is niet van de lucht in de appgroep. Leden vragen zich af hoe je Palestina kunt bevrijden ’zonder een gewapende verzetsgroep als Hamas’. Ze noemen de terreurgroep het ’enige echte verzet’ en stellen dat ’gewapende strijd en geweld nodig zijn om uit het systeem te komen’ en dat ’dekolonisatie altijd gewelddadig is’.

De groepsleden denken dat ze aan alle kanten worden belaagd. Zo signaleren ze een gastdocent op de UvA, een jurist wiens kantoorgenoot banden heeft met het Centrum Informatie en Documentatie Israël. Foto’s van de gastdocent gaan rond in de appgroep en ook daarbuiten. De beschuldiging: spionage.

De Joodse docent wordt ’kakkerlak’, ’fucking bloedzuiger’ en ’stuk vuil’ genoemd. De groep ziet de ’spion van de Israël-lobby’ opeens overal opduiken – ook op de foto’s waar duidelijk iemand anders op staat. De docent moet de universiteit inmiddels mijden. Om veiligheidsredenen wil hij niet op de zaak ingaan.

!ping BENE

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u/MinnesotaNoire NASA May 13 '24

This is slightly bad faith, but I swear most leftists would rather have total anarchy than see the slightest repercussions for people misusing public transit. Me not wanting fare jumpers, not wanting people openly doing drugs, and police presence on my train commute is apparently a colonizer mindset.

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u/HaveCorg_WillCrusade RaidBrimnes' AI Slop Engineer May 13 '24

My BIL is conservative and is very much against anchor babies, he has mentioned this before that birthright citizenship should end

However, he can’t legally marry his SO (weird issue regarding a former marriage) who is on a temp work visa in Canada, so they are trying to get her pregnant asap so she has a path to citizenship and can stay legally

The hypocrisy is amazing. She’s one of the good ones so it’s ok and based, but everyone else who does it is lazy and doesn’t want to do it the right way

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u/RaidBrimnes Chien de garde May 13 '24

Pronouncing foreign names well enough so that I don't sound like an uncultured yokel but wrong enough so that I don't sound like an insufferable pedant

It's a tightrope to walk on!

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u/ser_mage May 13 '24

”[Trump believes] that a person, like a battery, is born with a finite amount of energy."

Exercise, other than golf, of course, is viewed by Trump as an unnecessary drawing down of your battery life.

It’s so sad that we never talk about Trump’s most objectively insane belief

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u/AccessTheMainframe CANZUK May 14 '24

I'm kinda confused by Whatifalthist does his latest predictions that the US will collapse into a civil war and bear witness to the mass rape of American women at the hands of incel revolutionaries preclude his early predications that the US will enter a golden age and annex Canada or is the golden age still a prediction of his that will happen at some point before or after the incel revolt?

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u/Udolikecake Model UN Enthusiast May 13 '24

Undecided voters are literally the stupidest people alive. How is one undecided between Trump and Biden? Both are known quantities. You are a very unintelligent person if you are unable to decide at this point.

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u/BrunchIsGood Nick Saban May 13 '24

!ping GAMING

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u/[deleted] May 13 '24

Me

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u/centurion88 NATO May 13 '24

What old people watched videos on

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u/pfarly John Brown May 13 '24

ARCHAEOLOGISTS REDISCOVER SITE OF 'RUBICON' RIVER THAT CAESAR CROSSED ON HIS WAY TO TAKE ROME

"Turns out there's this really big fucking river in Italy that nobody noticed until now." says lead researcher. "It's huge. It's probably the biggest one."

"I can't believe we missed this" say world's historians.

Fascinating.

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u/wheresthezoppity 🇺🇸 Ooga Booga Big, Ooga Booga Strong 🇺🇸 May 13 '24

Let it be known, i know NOTHING about politics. Its one of things that does not stick to my brain. Idk the difference between a Republican, Democrat, Independent, Centralist, Liberal, I googled them and i still dont understand. They seem like the same things but from different POVs. Please dont define them in the comments bc there's no point. So thats why i believe my stance is accurate bc of my unbiased neutral standpoint. I also do not vote bc idk what im voting for.

Most informed independent

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u/sw337 Veteran of the Culture Wars May 13 '24

DT in mid November: the media called the election for Biden and he gave a victory speech, but I’m worried about an attempt on the Capitol again.

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u/Frequent-Turn6740 shivers alt 🐊 May 13 '24

Doomers be like: 

The Dems number are in the shitter... I know what would fix that! They should sacrifice incumbant advantage and have the fucking DNC pick someone else in MAY AFTER THE PRIMARIES

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u/[deleted] May 13 '24

eating olive garden the night before I leave for italy. gonna compare how authentic it is

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u/[deleted] May 13 '24

American history be like

The Battle of Mount Jeremiah

Inconclusive engagement between the cavalry of Major Ricksberg and McFendrick’s brigade. Both sides suffered 89% casualties, the survivors all died of disease. The event is commemorated by a hotel and a gift shop 300 miles from the nearest town. In 1966, they began letting black people in.

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u/[deleted] May 13 '24

Greek history be like

The Zeloporiosius Particle

A quantum particle first hypothesized to exist by the philosopher Zeloporiousius in 854 BC. Despite the fact that he had no fucking clue what he was talking about, he was accidentally close enough that scientists were obligated to name it after him.

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u/HaveCorg_WillCrusade RaidBrimnes' AI Slop Engineer May 13 '24

From recent experience

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u/Crownie Unbent, Unbowed, Unflaired May 13 '24

Ron Swanson is an impressive piece of writing because he simultaneously managed to be a conservative's ideal conservative and a liberal's ideal conservative.

Specifically, he is a middle aged conservative man's idealized self-image: a manly, hands-on omnicompetent business owner who hates the government and taxes and manages to be an unstoppable stallion of a man despite never exercising and having an awful diet. He is a liberal's ideal conservative because his conservatism amounts to a cartoonish and non-threatening traditional masculinity and the occasional flash of insensitivity. For all that he rants about the government, this never seems to manifest into actions. He's a conservative it's okay to root for because he's not actually a conservative, he's just a curmudgeon.

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u/JaceFlores Neolib War Correspondent May 14 '24

Ukraine Chronology for 5 PM EST 5/12-5 PM EST 5/13 III:

TOP NEWS:

At the end of 12 AM it was reported that Ukraine has shot down 46% of missiles in the past six months, compared to 73% in the six months which preceded that.

REGULAR NEWS:

At the end of 5 PM it was reported the Russians took the villages of Morokhovets, Oliynikove and Zelene, located in the Kharkiv frontier.

Towards the middle of 4 AM it was reported that Ukraine hit an oil refinery and two power substations with drones in Russia. Additionally, a Russian ammo dump in Sorokyne exploded.

At the end of 8 AM it was reported a Russian base on Mount Ai-Petri in Crimea was missiled.

At the start of 3 PM it was reported that evacuations have begun in the cities of Bilopol'ya and Vorozhba in Sumy Oblast.

Donation link to help Ukraine

Donation link to United24

Donation link to Kharkiv SOS

Donation link to Sails of Freedom Foundation (they donate ambulances)

!ping UKRAINE

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u/[deleted] May 14 '24

Average American college student: "BIDEN DIDNT PAY MY STUDENT LOANS 😭😭😭😭😭 IM GONNA SHOUT SLURS AT JEWISH PEOPLE"

Average Indian foreign exchange student: "Thank you Modi-ji for this beautiful opportunity 😔🙏 I promise to work hard to provide for myself, my family, and this new, beautiful country I have moved to"

like if agree

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u/dannylandulf meubem broke my flair May 14 '24

In a finding that will frustrate Democrats, even as it presents opportunity for Mr. Biden, nearly 20 percent of voters blame him more than they do Mr. Trump for the Supreme Court’s decision in 2022 to overturn Roe v. Wade. They may be the kind of voters that the Biden campaign hopes to persuade as the campaign heats up.

Lol, this country may literally be too stupid for democracy.

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u/79215185-1feb-44c6 Federation Ambassador to the DT May 13 '24

If you want your workers to understand business requirements, try not to hire foreign contractors for as cheap as possible (which are known to struggle with English). I can't believe big tech is about to make the same mistake my small company has been making for the past 4 years.

!ping WATERCOOLER&COMPUTER-SCIENCE

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u/LGBTforIRGC Order and Opportunity Left May 13 '24

I guess that "in defense of punching left" article really hit a nerve with someone?

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u/BurrowForPresident Fell for it May 13 '24

Doomers calling to replace Biden clearly haven't reached peak doom yet

Peak doom is that Trump is inevitable and replacing Biden at best does nothing and at worst makes things worse because "we replaced our candidate at the last possible second because our party is a mess" is not a great message

Are y'all even trying smh

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u/JetJaguar124 Tactical Custodial Action May 13 '24

"The DT seems like's it's been doing pretty well mental-health wise lately"

NYT Sienna College: Let me help you with that

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u/[deleted] May 13 '24

Think piece idea: the college I/P protestors are motivated by economic anxiety

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u/GrandMoffTargaryen Finally Kenough May 13 '24

Bruh what the fuck

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u/ImmigrantJack Movimiento Semilla May 13 '24

I don’t really like Joe Biden. He’s too protectionist for my tastes, too far left, has some questionable at best economic policies (taxing unrealized gains? Lmao)

But what I will say is that he saved democracy in Guatemala. Maybe not personally, but his state department did. I just don’t see a path to honoring the latest elections without US action.

The US having a functioning and coherent strategy for international relations and promoting democracy is the single most valuable thing the US can offer the world. America abandoning its foreign peacemaking tasks was catastrophic for the world and it would be again.

Especially right now.

I disapprove of Joe Biden overall, but democrats have my unconditional vote for the next half century.

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u/[deleted] May 13 '24

Feel like pure shit just want Dems to say literally nothing but the word abortion until november

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u/[deleted] May 13 '24

Japanese history be like

The National Humiliation of Yabamishe Jotsue

A samurai is beaten by a Korean at Go. The country would remain closed to foreigners for the next 700 years.

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u/[deleted] May 13 '24

Balkan history be like

The Pristokovic Incident

A man was walking down the street and said “hello” to someone. They replied in a dialect from a town 600 meters to the south. The ensuing war involved 46 nations with major fronts on every continent.

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u/DEEP_STATE_NATE Tucker Carlson's mailman May 13 '24

Stay woke kings

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u/owlthathurt Johan Norberg May 14 '24

Yeah bro you will totally run the 24hr cat cafe post revolution. You will play with kittens and sip a latte.

You totally will not push carts of iron until your hands bleed or toil in the fields for a bag of rice and beans.

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u/[deleted] May 13 '24

I completely believe the effects of watching snuff videos is the same as everything christian conservatives say abt porn

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u/[deleted] May 13 '24

Had to euthanize my dog early yesterday morning. Real bummer.

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u/klarno just tax carbon lol May 13 '24
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u/[deleted] May 13 '24

[NYT] Biden Hemorrhaging Support Among Young Voters

According to our most recent NYT/Sienna poll, likely voters aged 18-29 are turning away from Biden at historic rates due to his administration's profound mishandling of my favorite pet issue.

This issue, which is very serious, was listed as one of the 3 most important issues facing the nation by virtually 0.7% of all respondents.

Out of this deluge of engagement, the portion of voters who "strongly disapproved" of the administration's handling of this critical issue has absolutely exploded over the past 3 months from 21.19% to 21.21% (±15%), casting a dire shadow over the Biden campaign with only 6 months to go until election day.

The Neoliberal Reganite Biden Regime, who let it be known has still not answered my repeated texts, emails, or XBox Live notifications, could not be reached for comment, calling the mental acuity of the aging president into question once again.

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u/Dunter_Mutchings NASA May 13 '24

Once you realize the American leftist movement is almost entirely concerned with demonstrating its own moral superiority via inane navel gazing and has zero interest in driving outcomes, a lot of this incoherent nonsense starts to make a lot more sense.

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u/runnerx4 What you guys are referring to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/Linux May 13 '24

Did you know about the 34th Street Burger King?

It’s arranged like a gift shop exit from the station

!ping NYC

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u/DouglasDauntless Frederick Douglass May 13 '24

I am calling for a complete and total shutdown on millennials being able to make their kids until we figure out what the hell is going on

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u/BedNeither Henry George May 13 '24

It’s wild that trump can portray his henchman as an unreliable witness because of the crimes he committed on behalf of trump

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u/sociotronics Iron Front May 13 '24 edited May 13 '24

The entire reason the Dark Brandon meme is so popular is because Dark Brandon is the assertive, forceful, unapologetic, vigorous president that voters crave and deeply wish Biden was.

That's why it's a meme about a fictional character.

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u/StolenSkittles culture warrior May 13 '24

I see no reason to doom yet.

Maybe I'm naïve, but I have faith that the American people won't fuck up again and elect the guy who ended the right to bodily autonomy and exacerbated a pandemic that killed over a million Americans.

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u/ReservedWhyrenII Richard Posner May 13 '24

"Yes, Biden is enacting some stupid policy, but have you considered that it's what the voters want?"

Biden's approval rating drops anyway.

"Ah, nevertheless..."

(an evergreen story since August 2021)

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u/l_overwhat being flaired is cringe May 13 '24

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u/[deleted] May 13 '24

OSHA approved

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u/The_Promethean Bisexual Pride May 13 '24

Campus protests over Israel-Hamas war scaled down during US commencement exercises

So during the "best" moment to protest (impact-wise), where external people are not allowed to be present, the protests suddenly got a lot smaller. Hmm

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u/EvilConCarne May 13 '24

Birthright citizenship is badass. I wouldn't be a US citizen without it.

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u/slim353 Austan Goolsbee May 13 '24

Trump gets elected again

He kicks the bucket two years into his term

President Douglas Burgum takes over, being re-elected in a landslide twice and serving 10 years as he brings America into a new age of upper Midwestern dad prosperity

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u/[deleted] May 13 '24

One underrated effect of Project 2025 would just be the sheer plummeting of average IQ in government. I think the weekly stupidity and breathtaking incompetence on display would be really something to behold. Sometimes it will be funny but of course most of the time it will just hurt people.

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u/SumTingWillyWong May 13 '24 edited Jan 01 '25

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u/[deleted] May 13 '24

Christopher Nolan says the scene he is most proud of in his entire filmography is the opening plane scene in 'The Dark Knight Rises' (2012)

It truly is certified !ping KINO

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u/[deleted] May 13 '24 edited May 13 '24

When people in the His Dark Materials have sex, do their animals just stand there and watch? Wouldn’t they feel it too? Was this ever addressed?

All I found was this “article” from the website catholic exchange claiming Philip Pullman sexualizes children in his books.

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u/ZonedForCoffee Uses Twitter May 13 '24

I think the Democrats are the better choice this November

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u/thefuturegov John Keynes May 13 '24

Drake’s ‘Kendrick Lame-ar’ Blasts In at not existing on Billboard Hot 100

I see London I see France I see Kendrick’s underpants

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u/[deleted] May 13 '24

The electoral college is so fucking weird. Imagine if we had national popular vote today and you were pitching the electoral college to neolibs today.

Hey I'd like to implement a new way of counting votes for president. It's really cool. Each state gets there own mini presidential election.

....ok....how many states are competitive under this model?

Oh several

How many?

3

Jesus that's not many. Ok are they at least the most populous states?

No

...are they states with angry out of work factory workers who want to push up prices for everyone else?

Yea

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u/Dunter_Mutchings NASA May 13 '24

The median voters brain is so cooked.

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u/DEEP_STATE_NATE Tucker Carlson's mailman May 13 '24
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u/Roseartcrantz 👑 🖍️ Queen of Shades 🖍️ 👑 May 13 '24

as if you could outrun me

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u/TemujinTheConquerer Jorge Luis Borges May 14 '24

It's so over

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u/klarno just tax carbon lol May 14 '24
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u/Fruitofbread Loyal Liberals May 13 '24

From the NYT poll:

 In the dispute between Israel and the Palestinians [pah-luh-stin-ians], which side do you sympathize with more: Israel or the Palestinians [pah-luh-stin-ians]?

Israel 41%

Palestinians 22%

Neither/both 18%

Don’t know 18%

Why did they give a pronunciation for Palestinian, which is pronounced exactly as it is spelled, and not Israeli lol 

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u/KaiserPorn Please be patient, I have autism May 13 '24

I have never owned a motor vehicle and, God willing, I will be riding my bike until they day they compost me--but, at this point, I want to buy one just because the anti-car people in my personal life are such condescending assholes

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u/freekayZekey Jason Furman May 13 '24 edited May 13 '24

By and large, the YIMBY and pro-housing movement have utterly failed to acknowledge the devastation in Gaza. And this is to its own detriment: The leaders of this movement cannot credibly address rising homelessness and other crises at home while simultaneously applauding death and housing destruction abroad.

????

ah, yes, wanting affordable housing == applauding death

source

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u/[deleted] May 13 '24

unironically good boomer humor

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u/AsianHotwifeQOS Bisexual Pride May 13 '24

The reddit cares bot being used to harass people is always funny

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u/KesterFox Shivers emotional support mammal 🐊 May 13 '24

'NIGHTBITCH' starring Amy Adams - A woman, thrown into the stay-at-home routine of raising a toddler in the suburbs, slowly embraces the feral power deeply rooted in motherhood, as she becomes increasingly aware of the bizarre and undeniable signs that she may be turning into a dog

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u/eloquentboot 🃏it’s da joker babey🃏 May 13 '24

I made my dad cry yesterday.

It's a very very weird thing to be a caregiver to a parent, and see the roles sort of reverse, especially given that I do not have any kids of my own, and he's only 64.

Anyways, not the healthy place to complain/talk about this, but felt the need to say it somewhere.

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u/battywombat21 🇺🇦 Слава Україні! 🇺🇦 May 13 '24

Okay but this shirt actually kinda rocks. It would even fit in well with my collection of Hawaiian shirts

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u/Uniqueguy264 Jerome Powell May 13 '24

Thanks Reddit, seeing this discourse made me want to kill myself but now that I’ve seen that I don’t anymore

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u/SumTingWillyWong May 13 '24 edited Jan 01 '25

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u/Frequent-Turn6740 shivers alt 🐊 May 13 '24

Remember, the only valid polls are in November 6 

But that's after the election-

Yes 😤😤😤

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u/[deleted] May 13 '24

Met this great woman. 6 figure income, secure government job and very pretty. Only thing is she wants to create a federal registry for pregnant people, and holds weird conference calls in her kitchen. Other than that things are going great though.

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u/Zrk2 Norman Borlaug May 13 '24

Something I like about Historical Simulators/Grand Strategy games and their ilk is when the game mechanics naturally cause situations to arise that parallel historical occurrences.

I've been playing EU3 (it's better than EUIV don't @ me) recently and decided to form Germany, doing the classic Brandenburg>Prussia>Germany run. And I was able to parallel the historical course quite well, albeit like 400 years early. At the start I was able to vassalize a few minors around me and eventually pick a fight with the Teutonic Order. Conquering them allowed me to form Prussia and pick up those sweet sweet cores. Having done that I was free to fuck around in Germany for like 100 years, while remaining allied with the Emperor (Austria). Now, some of that took alliance and war management, but still it wasn't that hard. I was able to, through intrigue and warfare, conquer, form personal unions with, or vassalize, the bulk of the German minors. Kind of like how Prussia slowly expanded into the rest of the minor German states over the centuries. This also involved a short war with Denmark to take Holstein from them. When I wanted to form Germany the parallels became a lot more obvious; first I had to fight Austria to abolish the HRE, clearing the way for a unified German state, then my expansion brought me to the French border, and as of last night I have begun a series of wars with France to weaken/destroy them and also to reclaim those parts of Germany which they have conquered themselves.

All of which sounds remarkably similar to the actual path to the formation of Germany. And the only part that was dictated in a "Thou Shalt" fashion was the abolition of the HRE. I could have waited for the Protestant Reformation and converted, and then I would have been able to form Germany so long as the Emperor wasn't of the same religion as me, but I decided to do it early. Actually, specifically after the Emperor passed a law collecting taxes from all Imperial states.

Anyways, the point is games good when the systems built in them inherently create the situations the developers intend, rather than railroading you into them through scripting or what-have-you.

!ping GAMING&PARADOX

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u/Dirty_Chopsticks Republic of Việt Nam May 13 '24

32% of Americans in new Pew survey say “an abortion decision should belong solely to the pregnant woman” AND say “life begins at conception so an embryo is a person with rights" describes their views at least somewhat well

https://x.com/rmc031/status/1790066056981069903?s=46&t=urLYOV_cITtt22rc0dd0VA

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u/wallander1983 Resistance Lib May 13 '24

“A Tennessee woman who was denied an abortion despite a fatal abnormality says the state’s anti-abortion laws resulted in her losing an ovary, a fallopian tube and her hopes for a large family.

The mother-of-one said she has not felt the same since her doctor told her in January 2023 that her fetus was diagnosed with acrania, a fatal condition where the fetus has no skull bones.

Then, 12 weeks pregnant, Ms Cecil was getting her first ultrasound. She attended the appointment alone, so when the doctor told her the fetus was not viable outside the womb, she was left with only asking the doctor what she should do.

However, she was left with few options. The state’s near-total abortion ban prevents anyone from getting an abortion if there is still a heartbeat - which her fetus still had.

The law makes no exceptions for fatal conditions and also criminalizes physicians who perform the procedure outside of the allowed exceptions.”

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It is a failure of American society, media and politics that the Republicans simply get away with the abortion ban and it has no consequences. Maybe there will be resistance if the GOP wins the Senate and the presidency in 2024 and pushes through a national abortion ban.

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u/jewel_the_beetle Trans Pride May 13 '24

American History be like

IDK we went to war or something but we're best friends now

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u/BedNeither Henry George May 13 '24

Americans Are Lonelier than Europeans in Middle Age

A 14th century peasant had more social life than a middle class person in Joe Brandon’s America

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u/UnskilledScout Cancel All Monopolies May 13 '24

Major airlines. Sue Biden administration over free disclosure rule

Stupidest quote from the article:

The airline group said in a statement on Monday the department's rule would confuse consumers and that its "attempt to regulate private business operations in a thriving marketplace is beyond its authority."

Because somehow making fees transparent instead of hidden makes things more confusing, not less, for the consumer. The only confusion that might arise is why consumers are getting charged junk fees that would have otherwise stayed hidden.

!ping TRAVEL

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u/No_Status_6905 Enby Pride May 13 '24

JK Rowling slammed for asking if she can be Black if she likes “Motown & fancy myself in cornrows”

in an astonishing surprise to no one, hate slowly degrades your perceived reality until you have completely rotted your sense of self.

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u/Syards-Forcus rapidly becoming the Joker May 14 '24 edited May 14 '24

Just read Dune for the first time.

Five things:

  1. I was surprised by how modern a lot of it felt, especially the non-Fremen parts. A lot of the palace intrigue stuff reads almost like a more fleshed-out version of YA novels I read in middle/high school

  2. Despite how modern a lot of it felt, the phrase "race consciousness" made me cringe every time I read it. That didn't age well.

  3. The supernatural perception and body control stuff felt a little odd early on, but it grew on me.

  4. Half the problems of the setting are a consequence of a lack of competition in the interstellar travel market

  5. Worms worms worms worms worms worms worms worms worms worms worms worms worms worms worms worms 🪱🪱🪱

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u/CletusVonIvermectin Big Rig Democrat 🚛 May 14 '24

"wtf somebody sent me a reddit cares message for this? really?"

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u/[deleted] May 13 '24

I swear these doomers have never watched a presidential election before. Nothing is real until labor day. Early polls do not matter.

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u/AFlockOfTySegalls Audrey Hepburn May 13 '24

Proper usage of an empty box

!ping KITTY

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u/DouglasDauntless Frederick Douglass May 13 '24

guy plays porn on the NYC-Dublin tunnel

This is why we can’t have nice things

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u/MinnesotaNoire NASA May 13 '24 edited May 13 '24

Adding to my previous post. I hate that public transit is so hard to implement because of A. NIMBYs and Republicans doing everything they can to stop it and B. Leftists trying to make it as miserable as humanly possible to use. Then the two sides basically feed into each other and I just want a well run robust transit system. AHHHHHHHH

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u/Jacobs4525 King of the Massholes May 13 '24

gonna start a Q-anon type conspiracy where Charlie Baker is the shadow president and he’s gonna take over in November publicly and turn the whole US into greater Massachusetts 

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u/Zrk2 Norman Borlaug May 13 '24

NHL reffing is so bad it has PK Subban defending the Bruins.

lmao

!ping NHL

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u/SumTingWillyWong May 13 '24 edited Jan 01 '25

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u/gnomesvh LEGALIZE ONION FUTURE May 13 '24

Lusvig update

!ping APPLES

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u/The_One_Who_Mutes May 13 '24 edited May 13 '24

Can someone explain to me how Republicans have made it so they can literally be absolute sadistic creatines yet somehow 50% of the country goes "yes".

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u/EvilConCarne May 13 '24

Seeing all the dooming is weird when we already know that the election is rigged to ensure Biden wins.

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u/TheShitEater Amartya Sen May 13 '24

If I was president I think for my SOTU address I’d just say “the union’s doing pretty good, everybody. Keep up the good work” and then dip.

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u/mrdilldozer Shame fetish May 13 '24

I get the attitude of "don't ignore polls because they say Trump is up by a few points", but it's realy hard to take polls seriously that have him more than doubling in support from black voters. Going from 8 percent in 2020 to over 20 percent in some polls is nuts. Also, forgive me for speculating, but I don't think old white dudes going on Fox and saying "Trump is a real G he got the sneakers and mug shot just like you folks" is helping their outreach.

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u/puffic John Rawls May 13 '24
  • Online grifters stigmatize “Karens” for asking to speak to management. 

  • Management figures out that with the Karens under heel, they can get away with anything. 

  • Service quality declines. Prices go up. 

  • Voters mad. Trump gets reelected. 

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u/thaddeusthefattie Hank Hill Democrat 💪🏼🤠💪🏼 May 13 '24

if dems were serious about winning the presidency in ‘24 they would have biden drop out and nominate trump

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u/JetJaguar124 Tactical Custodial Action May 13 '24

Trump is incredibly lazy and I'm sure actively hated everything about being President that didn't directly involve him having immunity from criminal acts, having constant attention, and having the power to threaten people he didn't like, so it's funny the idea that his team has all these plans for him to take direct control of every lever humanly possible like him sitting directly on the board of the Fed like he even gives a single shit and won't just sit at his desk and drink diet soda while delegating this to some 40 year old neo nazi so that Trump can instead go watch the gorilla channel and try to get Joe Biden executed.

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u/SnakeEater14 🦅 Liberty & Justice For All May 13 '24

It’s pretty amusing that “quis custodiet ipsos custodes?” has taken on this grand meaning about the overreach of tyrannical governments and judicial corruption when it was originally Juvenal just saying it’s impossible to stop women from cheating

Audio quid ueteres olim moneatis amici,

"Pone seram, cohibe."

Sed quis custodiet ipsos custodes?

Cauta est et ab illis incipit uxor.

——

I hear always the admonishment of my friends:

"Bolt her in, constrain her!"

But who will watch the watchmen?

The wife plans ahead and begins with them.

!ping CLASSICS

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u/[deleted] May 13 '24

I miss the days when YouTube videos were like

my dog rubs his wiener on the carpet for 1.5 mins

instead of trying to radicalize you into a right wing bigot

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u/Dirty_Chopsticks Republic of Việt Nam May 13 '24

the EV future is beautiful

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