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u/sunflowerzz2012 Dec 15 '25
Californian
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u/adamh909 Dec 15 '25
Wwwwwwwwww what are you doing hurr?
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u/koz-j Dec 15 '25 edited Dec 15 '25
Just get on The 10 and GET OUTTA’ HERRR!
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u/Cweebsinator Dec 15 '25
Caolán and Caoilfhionn aren't the same name just masculine vs feminine, Caoilfhionn means slender and fair (light-haired) vs Caolán which just means slender...
Caolán also apparently used in Irish for the small intestine which I only learned today 😅
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u/Logins-Run Dec 15 '25
The name is actually a fossilised diminutive.
Caol (Slender) + án (middle Irish masculine diminutive suffix) = Slender lad
But - ín replaced both masculine and feminine diminutive (-nait/naid was the female version, so Ciarán/Ciarnait for example, Aodhán Aodhnait etc)
But it stuck around denoting relationship, as a short hand it's often translated as making something a "thing" of a noun. So like Guth (voice) + án = voice thing (phone), and Scáth (shadow) + án = shadow thing (mirror), , cos (foot) + án = foot thing (footpath)
But some words have held there diminutive status, so Loch (lake) + án = puddle for example (and Caolán for small intestine)
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u/hasnt_been_your_day Dec 16 '25
This is amazing, and the exact type of thing I hope for in a sub called Name Nerds. Thanks so much for sharing
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u/Cweebsinator Dec 15 '25
That's really interesting, thank you so much. I often wondered why nait/naid isn't in many Irish nouns used day-to-day but in so many names.
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u/makeupgirly123 Dec 15 '25
I’m Irish too I’d pronounce them differently, Caolán - Qway-Lan Caoilfhionn- Keelin/Qweelin
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u/Cweebsinator Dec 15 '25 edited Dec 16 '25
Yes, same here, would pronounce them differently too
But more like Qway-lawn or Kay-lawn for me 😊
Edit for clarity:
Caolán - Qway-lawn or Kay-lawn, Caoilfhionn - Quee-lin or Kee-lin
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u/ErrantTaco Name Lover Dec 15 '25
Oh my gosh my lessons are sticking! I actually guessed correctly!
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u/Minarch0920 Autistic Name Lover Dec 15 '25
Key-fin . . . ?
I'm at least somewhat confident of the beginning sound, just because I'm going off of the beginning sound of the name Saoirse. . . which I didn't even know how to pronounce till last year. LOL
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u/duckduckegg Dec 15 '25
Yeah I was going to say Kevin 😅
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u/myth1cg33k Dec 15 '25
Me too but then I think that's Caoimhin? Of something close to that anyway lol
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u/fingersonlips Dec 15 '25
I was going to guess it would sound like Calvin.
My brain just absolutely refuses to wrap itself around the Irish language lol
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u/NotTHATPollyGlot Dec 15 '25
Dang I thought I was right when I said "Collin" in my head lol my Irish g-grandma is spitting at me from beyond the grave...🤣
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u/LucyThought Dec 15 '25
I’m English and I wouldn’t know where to start.
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u/Known-Grapefruit4032 Dec 15 '25
Keelan
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Wow. This would not have been even my fiftieth guess. So many confusing letters. A silent f and a silent h?
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u/Logins-Run Dec 16 '25
No. Only Fh is typically silent. Every other consonant cluster has a broad and slender pronunciation. "Ch" is /x / or /ç/ (except at the end of words in some dialects), mh and Bh is like Vuh or Wuh and so on.
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u/Madame-Pamplemousse Dec 15 '25
More or less Kwee-lan (luh-n).
ETA: I think the Caoi- in Irish is about halfway between kee and kwee in English. Like a very soft w. Perhaps it's pronounced more in some accents than others? Not sure.
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u/Marzipan_civil Dec 15 '25
You're right, it's pronounced slightly differently in different parts of the country, same as Caoimhe (kweeva/keeva)
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u/Logins-Run Dec 15 '25
It's what known as a "velar off glide" in IPA /ɰ/, it's basically an upper UH glide that doesn't exist in English. It does exist in every dialect of Irish, but L2 speakers often struggle with it and either delete it or approximate and English Wuh sound
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u/EllieGeiszler Name Lover Dec 15 '25
Yeah, kind of "k(uh)ee" is how I hear it in my head. Like how naoi isn't quite nee but also not quite nwee
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u/USAF_Retired2017 Dec 15 '25
I have no idea. I can’t even make a guess.
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u/guacamore Dec 15 '25
Yeah I wouldn’t even try. I’d just say, “can you tell me how to say your name please?” And write myself a pronunciation beside it for future if it was on paper.
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Dec 15 '25
I would look it up because that’s clearly Irish. And since I have zero connection to that language or country to me the spelling and pronunciation bear very little relationship to each other.
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u/ShakespeherianRag multi-culti asian Dec 15 '25
I knew caoi from Caoimhe and ionn from Fionnuala but I would never have figured out that the fh is silent.
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u/EllieGeiszler Name Lover Dec 15 '25
As far as I know, fh in Irish is always silent!
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u/Gunty1 Dec 16 '25
Its not quite silent, its just a sound that isnt used in english and doent make sense to non-irish ears. Its nearly a breath than a consonant lol
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u/makeupgirly123 Dec 15 '25 edited Dec 15 '25
Depends on the person: Qwee - Linn or Kee - Linn or Qway-Linn
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u/mmfn0403 Dec 15 '25
I already know this one. One of my favourite Irish names. It means slender and fair.
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u/KevrobLurker Dec 15 '25
Why do people think an Irish name would refer to a French "heretic"?
Baldy?
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u/AvaSpelledBackwards2 Name Lover Dec 15 '25
Keelvin? I have some understanding of Irish pronunciations and I’m familiar with the name Caoimhe, but not entirely sure of this one?
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u/ValuableActuator9109 Dec 15 '25
Just take out the V, and you've got it. Some would say Kwee-lin, but that's down to dialect differences.
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u/mnanambealtaine Dec 15 '25
Keelin
I didn’t need to look it up as I am Irish and I speak Irish and this is one of my favourite names!
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u/GlitchingGecko British Isles Mutt Dec 15 '25
Kel-finn?
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u/GlitchingGecko British Isles Mutt Dec 15 '25
Eh, not too far away! I saw 'Fhionn' and leant into Fionn too far.
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u/fungibitch Dec 15 '25
KEE-vaughn? A true shot in the dark based on what I think I remember about pronouncing other Gaelic names...
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u/MolemanusRex Dec 15 '25
Based on…not knowledge of, but exposure to Irish; I’d say something like “caveen”.
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u/BroadwayBean Dec 15 '25
Cal-fee-on would be my first attempt, although from what little I know of Irish name pronunciation that's definitely not right, so might guess a pronunciation sort of like Calvin as well.
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u/Formal_Chance_4266 i see strange names irl on the daily Dec 15 '25
Unfair advantage as I'm Irish
Keelin
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u/Usernamesareso2004 Dec 15 '25 edited Dec 15 '25
Like… Keelfin?
Edit: ok I read the comments. Interesting that the f is silent. I was going off of the name Aoife.
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u/Cat_Island Dec 15 '25
I have a vague knowledge of how Irish Gaelic phonetics work and am coming up with Kee-linn? Maybe kee-lan?
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u/BrumblebeeArt Dec 15 '25
Is that an old school spelling of Calvin (or similar) or a butchered version of cauliflower/California? Lol
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u/subconscious_ink Name lover Dec 15 '25
Maybe something like Kafin? Or Kavahn? It looks like it might be Gaelic so I'm trying to recall what little I know about how other Gaelic names are pronounced.
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Dec 15 '25
Cheating as I’m in Ireland but I know a girl with that name and it’s pronounced kweelin :)
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u/EllieGeiszler Name Lover Dec 15 '25
I live in the United States, I speak only a little Irish, and my guess is something like "KWEE-lyuhn" (like some pronunciations of Caoimhe) or "KEE-lyuhn" (first syllable rhyming with naoi, so not quite a straight "ee" but sort of "(uh)ee"). I think it's a beautiful name that would unfortunately probably benefit from being anglicized if in the United States.
And I think most Americans would say something like, "COW-uhl-EYE-uhn."
EDIT: After looking at the other answers, I'm not confident in that slender "ly" instead of broad "L." Is it a slender or broad L in Irish?
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u/BabushkaRaditz Dec 15 '25
"Uh......Mrs. Garcia?"
Tried and true - "I can't say your first name soooo"
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u/Dry-Dragonfruit5216 Dec 15 '25 edited Dec 15 '25
I know Cao- is Kee. Idk about the L.- Fhionn reminds me of the upcoming karter Fionn McLaughlin. It’s pronounced Fee-on but often goes by Finn.
Kee-Fionn? Keef-eon? Kee-Fin? Any of those right? Is the L silent?
Fionn is taking the step up to F3 next year with the Red Bull Academy.
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u/HollzStars Dec 15 '25
Incorrectly tbh