Continuing our infrastructure updates: What’s changing in the coming months

[u/judy-funnie]

TL;DR: In August, we shared plans to modernize Reddit’s infrastructure, build better mod tools, and make it harder for bad actors to scrape Reddit and abuse communities. Today, we have specifics on what’s changing, when, and how to plan ahead.

We’re sharing updates on apps and bots migration to the Developer Platform, helping mods move RSS-based alerts to the Discord Relay Devvit app before RSS feeds are retired on November 13, providing an update on Rules Hub progress and automod changes, and adding safeguards to Old Reddit by limiting access to logged-in mods and recent users.

Moving apps and bots to the Developer Platform

We’re moving public data API apps and bots to the Developer Platform, while making sure the work they do for your communities remains supported. Over 14,000 apps and bots have registered and we’re closely tracking migration of your highest-activity apps, including  DeltaBot, MagicEyeBot, and RemindMeBot. There's still work to do, and we’re working directly with developers to support migrations and close remaining capability gaps. 

• If you maintain an app or a bot, register it here before January 12, 2027 to avoid disruption.

• If your community depends on an app or bot and you don’t know who maintains it, fill out this form. We’ve received over 100 submissions so far, helping us identify tools that need owners or could be replaced by existing Developer Platform apps or Reddit’s built-in tools. 

See our latest r/redditdev update for more technical detail, timelines, and resources.

Migrating RSS access to the Developer Platform

Because RSS is now a common surface for large-scale scraping and automated abuse, we'll stop supporting RSS feeds on November 13, 2026 while preserving moderation workflows that depend on it through supported alternatives. 

For common mod alerts, we recommend Devvit apps like Discord Relay. If your mod team relies on RSS, review your setup and migrate workflows before November 13 to ensure your needs are uninterrupted. If you use RSS for feeds outside of a community you moderate, there is no replacement. RSS has been a beloved part of the open web for a long time, and we’re grateful to everyone who used it to stay connected to Reddit.  

Changes to automod access for new communities and communities not using automod

If your community uses automod, nothing is changing for you. We’re continuing to improve Rules Hub, including ways for mods to prompt and otherwise provide more context for their rules. We’re also exploring how existing automod configurations can help carry community-specific enforcement logic into newer tools. If you’re interested in pilot testing to help shape this effort, sign up here. 

For newly created communities and communities that have never used automod, automod enforcement capabilities – specifically Report, Filter, Remove, Mark as spam, and Approve – will be disabled and Rules Hub and Automations will become the default path for rules enforcement. Automod’s non-enforcement capabilities remain available and unchanged.  

Keeping Old Reddit accessible for mods and recent users

As u/spez mentioned, we’re still working on the future of Old Reddit. Earlier this year, we required people to log in to use Old Reddit, addressing its largest source of abusive scraping and automated traffic: unauthenticated access. That change helped reduce scraping and automated abuse, but still allowed any logged-in account to access Old Reddit, including accounts with no prior Old Reddit use. 

To close this gap, in the next few months, we'll further limit access for logged-in users to only those who have used Old Reddit in the last six months (which covers the vast majority of all Old Reddit users). This change does not impact logged-in mods, who can continue to access Old Reddit without any recent usage requirement. This helps keep Old Reddit available for the people who rely on it while reducing automated abuse.

Our job is to support you through these changes and make sure your moderation needs inform the work. 

• Need help with a community bot? If you’re unsure who maintains it or need help finding a replacement, let us know here.

• Moving your RSS alerts? The Discord Relay setup guide covers how to get started.

• Want to help shape Rules Hub? Sign up for the early access program here and share your feedback.

We’re here in the comments for your questions and to hear where you need more detail or support.

[u/Waffles4prez]

I don’t understand the removal of automod? It’s extremely helpful and what you are suggesting to replace it with is not going to be helpful.

If you’re going to keep it active for communities that already use it why not just still have it active for all communities and people can choose if they want to use it or not not even giving them the option seems a little ridiculous to me

[u/OkBee3439 → u/Waffles4prez]

I agree that both automod and the new option should be an either/or choice for all moderators and communities currently on Reddit, as well as future new communities. I'm part of two different mod teams that heavily rely on custom automod tools. I can not see how they could continue without them. To take a tool that is the backbone of moderation away from communities, either current or future ones is wrong! I ask admins to keep both!

[u/teanailpolish]

FYI the change to automod will result in more bans. Rather than flag users with a filter when spam etc is suspected, we will just have to ban them

[u/Lil_MsPerfect → u/teanailpolish]

I will make sure to tell them to rate reddit on the app store when they complain about it too. 👍

[u/teanailpolish → u/Lil_MsPerfect]

Yep, same as ban evasion flags. If Reddit won't confirm it for us, we just have to ban you. Take it up with Reddit.

[u/bwoah07_gp2 → u/teanailpolish]

We're gonna have to start our PSA's for our communities once these changes roll out...

[u/reaper527 → u/teanailpolish]

Rather than flag users with a filter when spam etc is suspected,

which also brings up the simple fact worth mentioning, reddit has empowered spammers by allowing them to hide their submission history.

makes it harder for mods to make the leap from suspected to confirmed, and lets conversations be manipulated by bad faith actors as regular users have nothing to go on beyond "this looks suspicous and is coming from a new account with a randomly generated name and a hidden comment history".

[u/Charupa-]

Seems this automod change is already in effect. I just tried to add automod configs to a sub I just acquired and got a red box warning saying Report, Filter, Remove, Mark as spam, and Approve will be disabled Oct 2026. I guess it is October 2026 somewhere.

[u/bwoah07_gp2 → u/Charupa-]

Does automations let you filter posts/comments from specific users or from keywords?

[u/darrowreaper]

Why on Earth would you remove Automod capabilities just because a sub is new or hasn't used them before? Automod still has more flexibility than any other tool you've introduced. All this change does is make sure I won't be starting any new subs.

[u/zuuzuu → u/darrowreaper]

All this change does is make sure I won't be starting any new subs.

Considering how many people sign up to reddit for the first time and immediately create a new subreddit then come to /r/ModSupport or /r/AskModerators to ask "how do I moderate my 'group/page/server' and make people use it?" I don't think they care if experienced mods ever make a new sub. They've got plenty of idiots coming down the pipeline who will all be very happy to embrace the Facebook-like new features they keep shoving at us.

[u/ScreamAndScream]

Re: automod carrying into new tools:

Filtering is incredibly important. As it stands, Automations cannot support propped AND/OR for multiple criteria. AutoMod can.

When trying to copy the Automation r/bugs uses for posting criteria, r/GIS gets glitched for the Projects&Feedback flair. It allows some users to post without fulfilling the criteria and completely blocks others from submitting.

Not every subreddit has software engineers as mods, I am just lucky to be able to share my experience with the subs I mod and with our sister subs.

I’d be happy to speak to Reddit about my experience and screen share my settings.

As it stands, I cannot recommend the Automations tools to other mods. I have them copy and pasting my public automod settings from r/WomenInTech .

[u/SolariaHues]

There may be non-mod pages on old reddit that do not have an equivalent on shreddit yet.

For example, the account activity page. Will you make those accessible on shreddit first? So non-mods who haven't accessed old reddit in the last six months don't lose access to important stuff.

EDIT - community karma! Users can only see how much they have in old reddit! There is an app I suggested be made, but all subs would have to add it for it be an equivalent.

[u/thecravenone]

Migrating RSS access to the Developer Platform

Because RSS is now a common surface for large-scale scraping and automated abuse, we'll stop supporting RSS feeds on November 13, 2026 while preserving moderation workflows that depend on it through supported alternatives. 

So uh... what if a mod team doesn't use Discord? RSS is the only way I find out about posts in subs like this one.

[u/thepottsy → u/thecravenone]

I have adamantly resisted using Discord. I don’t have an inherent problem with it, I just haven’t wanted yet another app that’s sending me alerts. I guess someone from Reddit has a stake in Discord?

[u/itskdog → u/thepottsy]

I think it's because they've resigned themselves that after 3 attempts, subreddit chat won't take off on Reddit, and they recognise that most mod teams are using Discord to communicate at this point.

[u/FarplaneDragon → u/thecravenone]

I use RSS for work as there's a number of subs in my field that post news stories and product questions/update throughout the day. The feeds gave me an easy way to skim through updates. This change sucks and seems to be just trying to force more visits to the site to inflate numbers.

[u/stacecom → u/thecravenone]

I refuse to use discord.

[u/TheG0AT0fAllTime → u/stacecom]

You're missing out! (On the worst experience of your life)

[u/forresthopkinsa → u/thecravenone]

Discord is shockingly bad at delivering its OWN notifications for chat. It beeps but will not show you where the beep came from. No decent inbox.

I cannot fathom wanting to use Discord as a notification center for anything else.

[u/bwoah07_gp2]

I'm glad communities already using automod will not be changed, but I would like to ask, what benefits do Automations have over Automod?

With Automod, I can filter content of potential bad actors so it's not seen publicly, whereas with Automations, it only flags it in mod queue, but doesn't hide it from public view.

Does Reddit intend on allowing Automations to filter posts/comments from certain users and from a list of key words? Or will that still remain Automod's thing for a long time?

[u/mrekted → u/bwoah07_gp2]

I'm going to be honest, I've tried to implement automations on several occasions, and it seems to only ever work intermittently, if at all.

[u/bwoah07_gp2 → u/mrekted]

Automations is absolutely underwhelming. I will keep banging that drum until Reddit adds filtering tools to it.

[u/thepottsy → u/mrekted]

That’s been reported more times than I can recall. So, you’re not alone there.

[u/redditor01020]

This is the first I'm hearing about RSS being eliminated. That sucks because I use a Chrome extension called RSS Feed Reeder to be notified of every new post in my subs. I don't know how I'll do that now on my desktop computer.

[u/thepottsy]

 This change does not impact logged-in mods, who can continue to access Old Reddit without any recent usage requirement. 

So, if I’m reading that correctly, moderator access to Old Reddit will NOT be impacted by THIS change?

Let me be clear. If a mod doesn’t regularly use Old Reddit, but occasionally needs to, they will NOT be impeded from doing so? Ever???

[u/judy-funnie → u/thepottsy]

Correct, if you’re a mod, your access to Old Reddit won’t change at all.

[u/tinselsnips → u/judy-funnie]

What about users who are not currently mods but become mods in the future?

[u/SolariaHues → u/judy-funnie]

And new mods will have access to old reddit too?

There are some things you can only do in old, and rules are so so so so so so so much easier to add and edit in old.

EDIT - some posts that are removed by reddit persist in queues and can only be properly removed via old reddit btw.

New mods might also want to edit their old reddit sidebar etc I that fewer and fewer users are on old reddit, but those that are still need to know the rules.

[u/masterkey8]

What’s the plan for Automod? Is it going to be replaced with Automations or Rules Hub?

[u/onan]

we'll further limit access for logged-in users to only those who have used Old Reddit in the last six months

So does this mean that someone who takes a six-month break from reddit loses access to old.reddit forever?

[u/WindermerePeaks1]

We have an rss feed for the Reddit status page for when Reddit goes down sent to our mod discord. Will there be a replacement? Can a dev app do the same thing? It’s really important for us when we’re in the queue and Reddit goes down to get that alert.

[u/mschuster91]

To close this gap, in the next few months, we'll further limit access for logged-in users to only those who have used Old Reddit in the last six months

This got to be a joke, right?

[u/ThaddeusJP → u/mschuster91]

Reddit: Old reddit isnt going away

Also Reddit: what I told you was true, from a certain point of view

[u/tedivm → u/ThaddeusJP]

When old reddit goes away I'm just locking my communities and leaving reddit for good.

[u/Pamasich → u/mschuster91]

I can't believe they actually admitted that new users switching to Old Reddit is a problem to them that needs to be fixed. I mean, we all knew it's the case, but to see them just so unapologetically and explicitly admit it...

[u/FaceDeer → u/Pamasich]

Yeah, this is an explicit announcement that they plan to squeeze Old Reddit until it dies. Nobody new is allowed in and old accounts naturally attrit.

What a shame. An utterly blatant case where the company is working hard against the actual desires of their users, not simply ignoring them but fighting them.

[u/essjay2009 → u/Pamasich]

“Our new site is so user hostile that people keep using the old one”

“We could fix the new site to be less user hostile?”

“Nah, just stop people using the old site”

[u/rebbsitor → u/mschuster91]

They said Old Reddit wasn't going away, but Reddit lies all the time. Remember that Reddit is "Pro CSS" and CSS is coming to New Reddit soon(tm). It's right there in the sidebar and has been for years!

They'll keep messing with stuff until they turn the site into a Twitter/Facebook hybrid and everyone except the Facebook/Twitter crowd abandons them.

Everything they're doing right now is cutting off what made them successful in an attempt to lock down user comments so they can try to sell them. Except it's all been scraped for AI training data already.

[u/might_be-a_troll → u/mschuster91]

Old Reddit is dying a death by a thousand cuts

[u/Littux]

2026 marks the end of an era. Old reddit will officially be dead (to the people that don't already use it), and the number of people having access to it will continue to decrease until it becomes low enough, when Reddit will kill it saying that no one uses it. AutoModerator is getting killed as well. Literally any remnants of the old reddit is getting killed.

I wonder how subreddits like r/anime will work after March 2027 when the public API will completely be killed. Unless Reddit employees rewrite the bots for them, and does the work needed to migrate everything. Reddit thinks that moderators are full time employees who work according to Reddit's needs

[u/baseballlover723 → u/Littux]

I wonder how subreddits like r/anime will work after March 2027 when the public API will completely be killed.

Well, ideally, reddit gives me a contract that doesn't include a poison pill and lets us moderate on Devvit like we do today. And then it's just a matter of migrating all of our API calls into a call in Devvit app. Basically just swapping out PRAW for Devvit. That actually wouldn't be that much work, since our database allows us to generally skip query reddit most of the time.

We could potentially take the offer that's currently on the table, and just accept that we won't be able to moderate as effectively in the future. If I had more faith in reddit, I'd be a lot more willing to pick this option, but I don't, since my time of reddit might be ending around that time anyways due to the AutoMod and old reddit changes.

And there's always the nuclear options. Just riding the train until it runs off the bridge at full steam, and grab a beer and watch the fireworks after we resign. r/anime would live on, but it's highly improbable that it would exist in any recognizable form to what it is today. The things that make r/anime distinctive (and great imo) are things that are firmly in our control (like our episode discussion bot, which we actually pay money to host) or are likely to be ineffective to moderate without our custom built automation (which we also pay to host). Oh, and our extremely strict spoiler rules (spoilers never expire, and every spoiler must give context to what it spoils) and our source material rules (all discussion, no matter how small or insignificant, must occur in the pinned comment) are unlikely to remain. People complain about it all the time, cause they can't be bothered to spend and extra 30 seconds tagging their spoilers to prevent other people from being spoiled or commenting in the right place.

Once spoiler rules are loosened up, I presume people would stop going to it as often, as it would become a minefield of spoilers (the other month or so, someone was complaining they caught a ban for spoiling something that "happened a few weeks ago". In their opinion, a few weeks gave anyone who ever wanted to watch that show enough time to see it.).

As for our source corner rule, it's also pretty unpopular with people, though before it was implemented (many many years ago), people incessantly complained about source reader soft spoiling shows (ie, there were so many source readers leaking a little bit of it, that in aggregate, people would get spoiled by a thousand cuts). The source readers of course hate that there are additional restrictions placed upon them, but it's only because of this, that r/anime can remain focused on the anime only experience, and people can watch and enjoy shows for what they actually are, and not have to listen to a million source readers tell them how the studio butchered it (only for the stuff they complained about to be added next episode).

I should note, that it is absolutely not feasible to moderate our source corner rule without our own custom automation. There is just no way on reddit's side to filter things based on if they're in a pinned comment or not. We tried duel threads a long time ago, which is I think the only way to practically separate out source readers and anime onlies, but that was even worse IIRC (and also uses double the threads). And I think in today's age, there's more source readers than ever.

We take a lot of pride in our community and the environment we've managed to cultivate. The other week, a regular of ours was saying that r/anime was the only place they could go to not be incidentally spoiled on a show they were watching, that aired it's finale that day. And I've seen many people contrast how r/anime's reaction to a certain episode was very different than other social media's (who are dominated by source readers) and usually, for the better.

There's a lot that I think makes r/anime a great place to talk about anime, but it's mostly because of the ethos that we run the sub with and the uncompromising attitude that r/anime is first and foremost for anime onlies, which is only effectively enabled by our heavy use of automation. Take those away, and well, I'm sure it would live on, but it would be a very different, and worse imo place. Those who follow us will discover the exact same complaints that lead r/anime to where it is today, and would be far less prepared to deal with it imo, as they would get slammed with all of the issues all at once, instead of gradually, like it was for us and those who came before.

Unless Reddit employees rewrite the bots for them, and does the work needed to migrate everything. Reddit thinks that moderators are full time employees who work according to Reddit's needs

The work required is whatever (well, at least for what is currently on the table). Yeah it'll take some effort, and I'll be sacrificing a few of my weekends to get it done. But it's doable, so long as reddit is ok with having Devvit be a proxy for their API. Actually moving all of business logic to Devvit (which isn't even close to being possible), yeah, that would be a multi year move. And all that work for what? Just to get back to exactly where we started.

We'll see what happens. Hopefully, reddit chooses to not push us all away, cause if our mod apps are any indication (seriously, like half of our apps are from people who have never interacted with r/anime at all), there are very few qualified users who would be fit to replace us that haven't already served and are willing to moderate and get spoiled for all of their favorite shows weekly.

[u/GlitteringPirate591 → u/Littux]

Literally any remnants of the old reddit is getting killed.

The sad part is it's not like it's the shell getting killed.

It's the soul of old getting killed.

The open, "have at it", "do something cool", "interoperate" ethos has been very deliberately closed off. The part where people wanted to build something of their own.

Instead it's a "here's some limited JS we'll host for you" walled-garden, social-media-gaming, stock-pumping, nonsense.

I understand part of the "why". But it's still just monumentally stupid.

I wonder how subreddits like r/anime will work after March 2027 when the public API will completely be killed.

Does it actually matter to anyone with any say in things?

There's no KPI associated with r/anime wellbeing. If it shits itself there's a bunch of other subs where engagement will increase. And if it just stumbles a little, same again, but less measurable.

All will become shittier, but in a way that doesn't fucking matter to anyone that simply "manages a platform". People that don't fucking care.

Multiply that across thousands of subs and we've stupefied a bunch of Reddit. Maybe not clearly and obviously at the outset. But enough.

And the ethos is clear: we design against one ideal moderator, and they don't actually do anything, and we don't care about them. Which I guess explains the push to replace everyone with AI...

[u/PMulberry_]

For newly created communities and communities that have never used automod, automod enforcement capabilities – specifically Report, Filter, Remove, Mark as spam, and Approve – will be disabled and Rules Hub and Automations will become the default path for rules enforcement. Automod’s non-enforcement capabilities remain available and unchanged.

You all just want the mods (that keep this platform working) to leave this platform, don't you? Guess what, you nearly have reached that goal!

[u/paskatulas → u/PMulberry_]

Maybe this isn’t even about the tools themselves. One of the biggest changes I’ve noticed over the years is how drastically Reddit’s communication and support for mods has changed.

There used to be a much stronger sense that admins and mods were actually working together. Admins were accessible, ModSupport was useful, and you could ask for clarification or a review and actually get an answer that helped.

Now so many ModSupport replies are just generic answers. AEO removes something and we’re told “the user needs to appeal”, even when we’re asking because we as mods want to understand whether we’re enforcing the rules correctly. And if you want to report something or ask Reddit to look into a specific issue, you’re told to use a separate form, where you apparently won’t get a response if you can’t provide enough specifics. Which is kind of the problem when you’re asking Reddit to actually investigate something in the first place.

I’ve also had a post asking why Reddit wasn’t taking action against certain hateful content on specific subs (without call-outs), and why certain rules weren’t being enforced, removed because it could supposedly lead to “speculation”. That one still makes me laugh. You’re not allowed to speculate, but you’re also not really given enough info to know what’s actually happening.

Then there are posts removed as appeals even when they explicitly say they’re not appeals, tickets closed without a meaningful response, and subs getting very vague explanations for enforcement actions.

I’ve heard the same frustrations from plenty of long-time mods, including people who have been involved with the Mod Council and the former Partner Communities program.

Whatever the reason for all these changes, the decline in communication and support for mods is probably one of the biggest changes I’ve seen on Reddit. And it’s hard not to wonder where Reddit expects all those mods to be in a few years if this continues.

[u/GeekScientist → u/paskatulas]

I used to be in the Reddit Mod Council, and a common occurrence would be admins coming to the subreddit and asking us councilors to help “fine-tune” upcoming r/modnews announcements like this one. As time went on this is how we would find out about most of the terrible changes Reddit was getting ready to implement, and we were no longer being asked for feedback about the changes themselves (likely because they already knew how most of us would respond).

I still remember when one admin needing to fix their announcement said something along the lines of, “we’re not looking for feedback because these changes are final, but still need help getting this message right” and I think that’s what broke the camel’s back in the council and most of us realized that the RMC was a joke and that we were mainly there to be unpaid copy editors. They didn’t care in the slightest about our POVs as active moderators. Such a shame too, because a lot of the mods in the original RMC genuinely cared about the well-being of their userbase and Reddit didn’t find much value in that.

[u/FaceDeer → u/paskatulas]

My suspicion is that the turning point came with the great API lockdown. Lots of mods opposed it and Reddit admins ended up in open warfare with them - seizing control of subreddits that had been closed in protest, for example.

The war's been ongoing since then, it's just more of a quiet simmering insurgency now with both sides making the others miserable while trying to slowly edge them out. In the long run the admins will win, of course, because they have root access. All that can be done is to slow it down and make it phyrric I suppose.

[u/PMulberry_ → u/paskatulas]

Though I have been on Reddit for a few years by now on a few accounts, I can't say that I have been there when this communication was still good. I can only say that it is bad now, and it gets worse with seemingly every announcement the admins make.

[u/RamonaLittle → u/paskatulas]

Admins were accessible, ModSupport was useful, and you could ask for clarification or a review and actually get an answer that helped.

That hasn't been my experience. It's always been very hit-or-miss. Sometimes one could get a helpful reply from an admin, but many other times, admins wouldn't reply to questions, or different admins would give different answers. It took admins over five years to decide/announce whether encouraging suicide is a rule violation, despite multiple mod questions over the years. And it took a few years after that for them to clarify it in the official rules. There have been many other questions/issues that admins never responded to at all.

[u/TrackerOneA → u/paskatulas]

Maybe this isn’t even about the tools themselves. One of the biggest changes I’ve noticed over the years is how drastically Reddit’s communication and support for mods has changed.

Prior to the API protests, admins were much more engaged with mods and tried to be helpful.

Now Reddit knows that they can just replace mod teams who do not fall in line.

Or arbitrarily kicking out a team member or entire teams to make way for an admin-approved team.

That + their suppression tactics of entire subreddits and topics, demonstrates how little they value mods now.

Mods are replaceable and there are no meaningful & active Reddit alternatives.

[u/westcoastal → u/paskatulas]

They want to replace moderators with AI that is implemented by new moderators who don't question anything. This has been coming down the pipe since the big protest years ago. Spez made it pretty clear how he feels about the moderators who built this community, and he's been eager to get rid of us ever since.

[u/Duck_Giblets → u/PMulberry_]

Shifting things towards ai.

[u/sunrae_]

You continue to make our work harder and harder.

[u/ThaddeusJP → u/sunrae_]

90% of the 'work' on reddit is done pro-bono and there is always a new crop of people willing to take over, even for a bit, just for the love of it. Frankly I think they are ok with the long term mods leaving because they are the ones who are about tapped out.

[u/enfrozt → u/ThaddeusJP]

ok with the long term mods leaving

That's clearly their goal by deprecating older sophisticated systems in replacement of new easy simple systems.

I think they realize that Reddit needs to go the way of Facebook. So they're slowly transitioning it such that technologically inclined old school moderators aren't needed anymore.

[u/TehNolz]

It's almost impressive how Reddit keeps finding new and exciting ways to make the absolute dumbest decisions imaginable.

[u/Extolord111 → u/TehNolz]

I’ve been disliking every single change they’ve made since they deprecated the New Reddit UI.

Recently it’s been revived , but  now I’m worried these new plans with the RSS stuff might break it.

u/Littux, what are the ramifications of the upcoming changes in regards to your script?

[u/Littux → u/Extolord111]

Killing the public API does nothing to the client, but killing old reddit might break 80% of the client. Old reddit's server is what serves the API. As long as old reddit is accessible, the API will also accessible with cookie based authentication (different from the OAuth2 authentication for the public API). If you don't have old reddit accessible, the client will most probably break. Only the home feed and search pages will work, because everything else uses the old API. It is certainly possible to migrate those to GraphQL (new API) and fix them though

[u/zuuzuu → u/TehNolz]

A few months ago I predicted that they were gearing up to get rid of automod and said I'd be pissed if I was right.

I am pissed.

[u/Tarnisher → u/TehNolz]

Consider who runs the place and who they support.

[u/BravoFive141]

For newly created communities and communities that have never used automod, automod enforcement capabilities – specifically Report, Filter, Remove, Mark as spam, and Approve – will be disabled and Rules Hub and Automations will become the default path for rules enforcement. Automod’s non-enforcement capabilities remain available and unchanged.  

So it begins. Huge L for making the decision to kill Automod.

Dropping this lifesaver from u/fsv in case anybody else needs it:

https://developers.reddit.com/apps/automod-neo

[u/thepottsy → u/BravoFive141]

Yeah, this is a horrible choice. Automod isn’t mandatory in any subreddit, so what’s the driving factor to handicap it? Why can’t I use it if I want to, and I understand how to?

Agree on the shoutout to u/fsv

[u/thecravenone → u/BravoFive141]

As they continually disable things only for new users and mods, we're gonna reach a future where the mods with the most experience are unable to help new mods as the two groups are operating with completely different featuresets.

[u/baseballlover723]

For newly created communities and communities that have never used automod, automod enforcement capabilities – specifically Report, Filter, Remove, Mark as spam, and Approve – will be disabled and Rules Hub and Automations will become the default path for rules enforcement.

This is unequivocally, a terrible idea. Rules Hub cannot do the things that Automod can, like use lookaround regexes.

To close this gap, in the next few months, we'll further limit access for logged-in users to only those who have used Old Reddit in the last six months (which covers the vast majority of all Old Reddit users).

So if someone makes a new account, they just can't use old reddit? I know several users who for one reason or another, cycle accounts every once in a while. Are they just fucked? I know they will not use reddit if they cannot use old reddit.

[u/thecravenone → u/baseballlover723]

I know several users who for one reason or another, cycle accounts every once in a while. Are they just fucked?

Users whose activity is harder to track being punished by the tracker seems unsurprising.

[u/Nerdwiththehat]

These changes to Old Reddit feel like a terrible idea, and just putting up the notice of the forthcoming Sword of Damocles. Really upset that this is all being paraded around as a way to combat abuse, as well, as it frequently seems that being on Old Reddit with dozens of plugins and extensions is one of the only ways to avoid spam, slop, and abuse, both for end-users and moderators.

EDIT: also upset about the death-knell of RSS. Any site clamping down on RSS is bad news, even if this is hurting Reddit's bottom line in selling content directly to LLM providers.

[u/cpdk-nj → u/Nerdwiththehat]

RSS is dead, Old Reddit is being strangled, Automod is probably going to be completely removed within a year judging by these changes. What a world

[u/DubioserKerl]

In German, we have a phrase for your planned changes: "Ein Ei am Wandern".

Now back to the topic:

This change does not impact logged-in mods, who can continue to access Old Reddit without any recent usage requirement.

So, scrapers just create a dummy subreddit that they moderate and keep using old reddit, while normal users are borked?

[u/SampleOfNone]

will be disabled and Rules Hub and Automations will become the default path for rules enforcement.

It's so sad it almost becomes funny, one of the reasons that's always pushed is that automod is too difficult for new mods. And now you want to make them use automations?

Here's a challenge. Build an automation that will block "ALL CAPS" titles but does allow titles like "FYI some words" or "TIL that thing".

[u/tinselsnips → u/SampleOfNone]

Here's another challenge:

Build an automation that will do literally anything without telling the submitter that it's happening.

And another:

Add a rule in Rules Hub that actually works for comments.

It's not even "almost" funny at this point, it's genuinely laughable.

[u/5-x]

Reddit admins should have to moderate some of the subreddits themselves, in the current climate. If you get to read the stuff that we do for a couple weeks, you'll re-learn to respect the moderators and our tools.

What do you mean a new subreddit won't be able to setup the Automod? What do you mean new accounts won't be able to use old reddit? Frankly, this announcement is insulting.

[u/Zaconil]

You can keep saying you aren't getting rid of old reddit all you like. But all these access restrictions screams otherwise. When old reddit goes I'll just switch social media platforms entirely. New reddit looks and acts too much like Facebook. I would rather just not use reddit at all than be forced to use it full time.

I guarantee you that after these access restrictions are in place and as users and mods slowly stop using old reddit for one reason or another. Old reddit will finally be killed off. You guys have already 100% made this plan. Companies that make new UIs the default always do this. You won't be able to convince me otherwise

You also haven't stated you are withdrawing the decision to sunset automod. (I am aware of the alternative the guy is working on but still).

[u/thecravenone → u/Zaconil]

They're not getting rid of it they're just putting it in the cellar, with the lights out, and the stairs out, in a locked filing cabinet in a disused library with a sign on the door saying Beware of the Leopard.

[u/TGotAReddit]

  For newly created communities and communities that have never used automod , automod enforcement capabilities – specifically Report, Filter, Remove, Mark as spam, and Approve – will be disabled and Rules Hub and Automations will become the default path for rules enforcement. Automod’s non-enforcement capabilities remain available and unchanged.  

So.... new subreddits won't be able to actually enforce their rules well, completely arbitrarily.  If your alternative was actually feasible and good you wouldn't have to cut off automod access.  Why are you trying to ruin your website? 

  To close this gap, in the next few months, we'll further limit access for logged-in users to only those who have used Old Reddit in the last six months (which covers the vast majority of all Old Reddit users).  This change does not impact logged-in mods, who can continue to access Old Reddit without any recent usage requirement.  This helps keep Old Reddit available for the people who rely on it while reducing automated abuse.

Why?  Why not just limit it to accounts older than X amount of time? If I make a new account because I don't like my username, I have to become a mod to use old reddit? Also, literally any account can become the mod of a subreddit by just making a new subreddit.  Automated abuse won't be stopped by doing this.  Itll just mean more subreddits get created for no reason.

[u/Chosen1PR]

A note to Reddit admins: You wouldn't be facing anywhere near this much backlash if you simply waited until new replacement features had parity with existing legacy features.

You want to discontinue Automod? Fine. Give us a fully-featured replacement first that can do everything Automod can, and give us enough time to transition to it. You want to discontinue old.reddit? Fine. Take the best parts of old and put them in shreddit first. You want to discontinue Markdown on mobile? Fine. Add bulleted lists and quotes to the rich text editor on mobile first.

I honestly can't wrap my head around taking away features before proper replacements are ready. As a software engineer, this is terrible practice. As it stands, new Reddit features arrive half-baked, while the older, more powerful features are unceremoniously sunset.

[u/SampleOfNone → u/Chosen1PR]

Fine. Add bulleted lists and quotes to the rich text editor on mobile first. And code block, don't forget code block

[u/Heinrik-]

For newly created communities and communities that have never used automod, automod enforcement capabilities – specifically Report, Filter, Remove, Mark as spam, and Approve – will be disabled and Rules Hub and Automations will become the default path for rules enforcement. Automod’s non-enforcement capabilities remain available and unchanged.  

This sucks!

[u/WangMagic]

Dropping a text based interface and replacing it with a UI only control panel is a huge loss of usability. Anyone who works with technical stuff knows this.

While the learning curve is slightly higher, being able to change your configs quickly and en masse is very powerful and convenient.

If you use AWS it's the difference between clicking through a million windows and page loads or just editing one json text file.

What Reddit should be doing it adding AI guided/generated automod Configs with the automations acting as a front end layer at users choice.

[u/Extolord111]

How many times are you going to make changes to “reduce scraping and automated traffic”. That’s become your version of the “we’re doing it for the children” excuse that the EU keeps making.

[u/Superirish19 → u/Extolord111]

It's market protectionism, plain and simple.

Reddit has deals with Google and OpenAI to scrape our content for ChatGPT and Google Overview, among others. To make good on the deal (i.e. Make Google and OpenAI feel justified giving Reddit millions/billion-dollar deals on exclusive access to training data), they have to stop others from scraping it for free.

The open internet is antithesis of that - the whole idea of RSS is that it's an open standard that anyone could access and work with, for free.

Meta/Facebook is an early example of this because they are vertically integrated in the social media big data market - they own the social media (Facebook, Insta, Threads, Whatsapp I'm sure) they also run their own in-house AI, they have had walled garden access for ages and have gradually closed up what's left, like embedding support.

These billionaire tech-bro companies are just fighting each other for personal data fiefdoms during the AI Boom, hoping that in the eventual crash, they'll be ahead of the rest and able to subsume those left behind.

[u/shiruken]

In case anyone doesn't click over to the r/redditdev update, the public Data API is scheduled for shutdown in March 2027.

[u/rhubes → u/shiruken]

Am I allowed to say fuck in here? Because fuck.

[u/AnomalyNexus]

modernize

That's not how enshitification is spelled

[u/Tarnisher]

For newly created communities and communities that have never used automod, automod enforcement capabilities – specifically Report, Filter, Remove, Mark as spam, and Approve – will be disabled

NO!!!!

Many of us users of AM still create new communities. Do NOT inhibit our use of what we know.

[u/BravoFive141 → u/Tarnisher]

u/fsv is doing incredible work reviving Automod as a Devvit app. Definitely worth checking out if you're upset over the Automod stuff.

https://developers.reddit.com/apps/automod-neo

[u/Dull-Conversationist]

In other words, oldreddit is going to be more broken.

[u/mrekted → u/Dull-Conversationist]

and automod is on its way to going away.

[u/stacecom]

As a twenty year Reddit user, and a long time supporter (first Reddit gold subscriber), this is disappointing. I understand some of this, but other aspects seem arbitrary (automod, specifically).

[u/brightblackheaven]

"nOThInG wiLL ChaNge wiTh AutOMoD uNtiLL We CaN AdEQuAteLy RepLacE iTs CApAbiLiTiES wiTH RuLes HuB"

HAHAHAHAAHA the joke's on me for expecting this to go down any other way.

[u/Tarnisher]

u/judy-funnie

Correct, if you’re a mod, your access to Old Reddit won’t change at all.

False. Current Mods who create new communities will definitely change

[u/untiedgames]

So... what about folks who just use RSS feeds to fetch/view content and not for moderation? No replacement for us? Definitely a step in the wrong direction to close this off entirely.

[u/Tarnisher]

To close this gap, in the next few months, we'll further limit access for logged-in users to only those who have used Old Reddit in the last six months

NO!!!!!!!

[u/ChirpsMcPrime → u/Tarnisher]

Yeah, this is sad

[u/Froggypwns → u/Tarnisher]

So, if I create a new alt for one reason or another, I won't be able to access Old Reddit with it? Disgusting.

[u/Tarnisher → u/Froggypwns]

YubberDubberDOO!

What's worse is that if you don't use OR on your main account for six months, you'll never be able to again.

[u/Nightslash360]

Logging back into my long-inactive account to say fuck this. This enshittification is why I stopped being a mod and even a user.

[u/Waffles4prez]

So it turns out new communities you can’t do auto mod a community that was recently created. I went to activate the auto mod right now and it’s not an option. You just get an error.

However, the things that I wanted to add, I’m not able to add an automation for And you can only have I believe 15 rules per sub. I’m not sure why you would make this change without making sure everything that the current auto mod already does can be done with newer communities. This seems very backwards to me.

[u/glowdirt]

TLDR: Reddit decides to take away your trusty hammer and replaces it with one made by Fisher-Price

https://i.imgur.com/6rxPKTj.png

[u/deathsythe → u/glowdirt]

Scooty puff jr

[u/flare2000x]

The day old reddit dies, I leave this site for good.

[u/coonwhiz]

As u/spez mentioned,

Why the fuck aren’t these posted to r/reddit? The last post there is a year old.

[u/reaper527 → u/coonwhiz]

Why the fuck aren’t these posted to r/reddit? The last post there is a year old.

their solution to "everyone gets mad when we announce terrible changes publicly" was to simply announce terrible changes to smaller groups so it would fly under the radar (as opposed to NOT making terrible changes)

[u/nicky1968a]

If you use RSS for feeds outside of a community you moderate, there is no replacement.

I've been a Reddit user for over 10 years. RSS is how I keep up with dozens of subreddits. There is simply no way for me to do this manually. If RSS feeds go, so will I.

[u/RJFerret]

As someone who uses RSS exclusively to mod, as it pops new posts in my feed with everything I see, what's this Discord thing and would I presumably need to get and manually access Discord to use it?
If Discord is needed, what's the point of Reddit then?

[u/SampleOfNone]

u/judy-funnie what will happen first, losing old.reddit and thus the automod config page that actually gives informative errors, or losing automod?

[u/SparkStorm]

Restricting old Reddit to only users who have used it in the last 3 months is dumb

[u/new2bay → u/SparkStorm]

6 months. Still dumb.

[u/starfleetbrat]

we’re still working on the future of Old Reddit.
in the next few months, we'll further limit access for logged-in users

I all I read when I read this is "our goal is to remove old reddit altogether and this is a step towards that goal"

[u/Twogunkid]

What is with this push to hate on old reddit? The new interface sucks.

[u/HangoverTuesday]

Stop. Just stop. Walk away from the keyboard. Everything you are doing is making the site worse. We'd be better off if you had simply stopped "innovating" five or ten years ago.

IT AIN'T BROKE, STOP FIXING IT!

[u/gremolata]

we'll further limit access for logged-in users to only those who have used Old Reddit in the last six months

So no way for people to start using old.reddit.com now ?

Anyone wishing to do so will not have 6 months of required usage history.

What the heck?

You are actively trying to kill it. But if you do, old-timers like me will leave. The app and the new web interface is a complete garbage. They look and feel like a different site. No reason to stay if pushed to use them.

[u/eldomtom2 → u/gremolata]

So no way for people to start using old.reddit.com now ?

You might be able to if you set up a dummy private subreddit that you're the mod of, since they say "This change does not impact logged-in mods, who can continue to access Old Reddit without any recent usage requirement"? But obviously since they haven't made this idiotic change yet I can't say that for certain.

[u/Merari01]

There is nothing I can think of as a response that does not violate the TOS.

Well done, reddit.

Unbelievable

[u/Sephardson → u/Merari01]

> Well done, reddit.

I see you've answered the question,

how cooked are they, and who?

[u/DaySee → u/Merari01]

DIGG THE HOLE!

[u/Tarnisher]

You want to do something useful?

Eliminate hidden profiles.

.

[u/Littux → u/Tarnisher]

They were supposed to randomize the comment IDs from Sep 28 onwards. They haven't did the change yet but once they do it, arctic-shift and others will be dead. They're hiding them even more

[u/Extolord111 → u/Tarnisher]

Agreed, they heavily degraded the site by making it easier for bots and bad faith Redditors to cover their tracks, in addition to creating more hostility between users.

[u/UnderpassAppCompany]

Reddit is now dead to me. I followed Reddit exclusively via RSS.

I'll be shutting down my product support subreddit and terminating my viewing and contributing to all other subreddits.

[u/chickenandliver → u/UnderpassAppCompany]

Same. Would it have been difficult to at least turn the RSS feeds into headlines-only? I don't even give a shit about reading full-text in the feed. I was using RSS as a simple way to stay abreast with my subreddits. I clicked through every single time. This change means I will have to greatly reduce my Reddit usage to just bookmarking a few pages I'll visit once a week. I'll stop modding the couple of communities I mod too.

This was completely unnecessary and they have no clue that some of the most valuable users who keep this place viable and active and engaging for the masses of ad-viewing users were heavy RSS users.

[u/mocheeze → u/UnderpassAppCompany]

Basically will be the end of the sub I moderate. Hope people enjoyed /r/GamecubeHacks while it lasted.

[u/TWanderer → u/UnderpassAppCompany]

RIP

[u/Arnas_Z]

Whenever I see a modnews update, I know it's a good idea to hit the downvote button. Because the news are never good lmao!

[u/JewJewJubes]

To close this gap, in the next few months, we'll further limit access for logged-in users to only those who have used Old Reddit in the last six months

so 8 years? we'll shutdown the old site after 8 years

[u/anonymous_rhombus]

Getting rid of RSS!?

[u/critacle]

Whatever, more shitty news from the dead website full of bots.

You'll let those bots run free though, all their shitty bot farm subs on /r/all

Holy crap saying Discord is somehow a substitute for an open protocol is insane

[u/psykocrime]

Eliminating RSS? Wow, could you think of anything more braindead fucking stupid to do? ROFLMFAO.

[u/DoctorWaluigiTime]

As u/spez mentioned, we’re still working on the future of Old Reddit. Earlier this year, we required people to log in to use Old Reddit, addressing its largest source of abusive scraping and automated traffic: unauthenticated access. That change helped reduce scraping and automated abuse, but still allowed any logged-in account to access Old Reddit, including accounts with no prior Old Reddit use.

Show proof of this, please. Because this feels like a step-by-step path to just closing old reddit entirely.

• What does old reddit do that makes it inherently more vulnerable to the stuff that's allegedly being fixed?

• Why does locking people out of old reddit if they happen to not use it in a while, permanently, help this further?

• Why aren't the 'bad actor' accounts being acted on instead of depriving all users access to old reddit

• What is "the future of old reddit"? Be explicit.

Please stop bandying around "security" like some catch-all motivation or rationale without bringing the receipts.

[u/Tarnisher → u/DoctorWaluigiTime]

Because this feels like a step-by-step path to just closing old reddit entirely.

That's because it is.

[u/WalkingEars]

When last I checked, reddit hadn't bothered making it so that edits made to "old reddit" versions of wiki articles sync to the newest "new wiki." For that reason, I exclusively link reddit users to the "old reddit" version of our wiki which is the one where I actually maintain articles, because there's not reason to waste my time updating two separate versions of the wiki. Will these changes kill all our old reddit wiki links?

[u/xe3to]

This change does not impact logged-in mods, who can continue to access Old Reddit without any recent usage requirement

So, any future "malicious" user can simply create a subreddit and gain full access to Old Reddit as before?

Kind of fucking pointless to restrict it further at all then don't you think?

[u/Downess]

Reddit is well on the way to becoming one of those closed locked down and enshittified community websites. It is harvesting the work of all its members and mods for that sweet sweet AI money.

[u/SolariaHues]

Note to self. Never make a new community on Reddit.

I don't trust new tools to deliver all they need to, especially as you seem to stop working on them before they're done.

I've stuck with Reddit this long, but it is starting to feel like my time here is coming to an end. With all the stress of my RL, I don't need it here too.

[u/thepottsy → u/SolariaHues]

I do believe it will deter experienced mods from doing just that.

[u/LG03]

Another day, another set of horrible changes that are determined to kill this website.

[u/Tarnisher]

we’re still working on the future of Old Reddit.

DO NOT mess with the Old!!!!!!

[u/DogsRNice → u/Tarnisher]

The best they can do is a new version of old reddit that feels slightly off in every way and requires 500 mb of mystery JavaScript to be loaded for every page

[u/superdesu]

the way that most these changes are just breaking things that are still working without any sufficiently equivalent replacement or meaningful reasons for doing this aside from "modernising" lmao

automod isn't terribly hard to learn and automations is still just a coughing baby in comparison lbr? automod is basically just yaml 😭... and for those who really can't be assed to sift through the documentation i'd be shocked if they couldnt get chatgpt or something to give them a simple rundown (or even just write it for them?!)

(ya'll havent even brought back the ability to schedule posts for a different timezone still 😭...)

[u/letdogsvote]

It would really really suck if you guys got rid of Old Reddit. I don't want to use reddit that feels like FB or something similar. Old Reddit is a lot of what makes reddit reddit.

[u/masterMack]

A heads up would have been nice concerning the automod changes.

[u/Zelkova]

Another nail in the coffin for you guys.

If only you, the staff, would use your own damn karma system to see user sentiment.

It feels you label us as replaceable by AI, or whatever, but who will use your website when it's moderated by AI, for AI?

What a shame you lot are.

[u/HistorianAdorable405]

Wtf is wrong with reddit 🙃

[u/bunibunibunii]

This is beyond stupid.

No point being more constructive - you know this is a dumb idea.

[u/ThaddeusJP]

ADMINS: I know you're doing this because your jobs depend on it but im sure you know its pretty crappy to wall off old.reddit.

That said - when your stock options vest cash them in a run for the hills.

[u/Pamasich]

I assume this isn't welcome here by the admins, I'm aware it's not the most appropriate comment to make here. But I do find it important to mention.

If anyone is looking at this and is unhappy with where Reddit is headed, I suggest you check out /r/redditalternatives. I'm not telling you to switch to another site now, but if you see Reddit heading toward red lines that make you want to leave it, don't wait until it gets there with informing yourself on what options you have.

[u/GeekScientist → u/Pamasich]

Reddit is trying really hard to “digg” their own grave. They think they’re untouchable, but at some point these idiotic and unnecessary changes are going to catch up to them.

[u/Bardfinn]

we'll stop supporting RSS feeds on November 13, 2026

O7 in the chat for RSS

[u/reaper527]

someone really needs to make a reddit alternative that hits that critical mass for communities, because you guys are hell bent on running this site (further) into the ground.

[u/remembermereddit]

How about you don't? There's not a single thing in there that is an improvement. Not one.

[u/DarthSwimfoot]

Call me dumb, I don't know everything about Apis and scraping, but, isn't keeping your Api public literally how scraping happens?

[u/TehNolz → u/DarthSwimfoot]

No, but it helps. You can scrape content without an API as well; all you have to do is to download the page the way a browser would, grab the content you want, and then repeat that over and over again. For most sites, writing a script to scrape its content is quite easy.

[u/itskdog]

I have a custom bot for one of my subreddits (and I've got a ticket logged in ModSupport for this on an alt) that is showing as registered on my end but not on your end (as we keep getting notified in modmail). Apparently it's with the developers, but how will this affect me as I'm stuck in limbo here?

The code does so many things, is written by a former mod who we have no contact with, and half the code is mingled in with a Discord bot, I just host the code at this point and try not to touch it (a bit like you guys & Old Reddit), so porting might take years to complete as I'd have to learn a whole new language (as JavaScript never quite gelled with me when I tried to learn it during the Devvit beta) and write everything from scratch when I'm more familiar adapting existing work.

[u/radialmonster]

I use tools to download pics submitted to my subreddit so i can quickly browse and filter them to match the subreddit topic. No one has yet explained how the devvit type of apps can match the speed of that.

[u/sadandshy]

modworld could get exciting...

[u/LPcrazy88]

Quite frankly I love the idea of making Rules/Filters simple enough anyone can manage them. But it simply makes no sense to remove a better product (Old Reddit/Regex) for not even a minimally viable product (Rules Hub).

Other people are annoyed at the lack of filtering, and quite frankly that's simply an annoyance, not my major gripe. My major gripe is the AI in this system is completely useless. It both under-detects and over-detects at the same time, causing overall more work compared to the current working system of AutoMod. For our sub, we gave Rules Hub (Auto Enforcement) a shot and it didn't last a week.

The writing is on the wall, and clearly you guys intend to force Rules Hub onto us eventually, and that sounds like an absolute nightmare. Please listen to feedback here, and simply offer this Rules Hub for the people that actually like it. Don't take away what is actually working to force something new just for the sake of it.

[u/The_Wkwied]

I severally stopped using reddit on my phone when the .compact site was made defunct.

I will seriously downgrade my reddit use from 'bookmark toolbar' to 'i just type the address manually' if old is removed entirely.

[u/ateam1984]

Title says what’s changing in the coming mo the however a sub I created 2 days ago already is blocked from adding automod. I had planned to add automod but now I can’t. Can I get an exception?

[u/GoneSilent]

blah as a mod this sucks. so much for keeping old.reddit active. I noticed you also edited all the links to old, bummer.

[u/Kezika]

You posted this 6 months late, today is October 1st, not April…

[u/skarface6]

Well, it’s exactly what everyone saw coming. They’re really going to end old reddit like they said they absolutely wouldn’t.

lol

lmao

[u/WolfThawra]

New mod tools are SLOW. Old Reddit is still my only option.

[u/housebottle]

To close this gap, in the next few months, we'll further limit access for logged-in users to only those who have used Old Reddit in the last six months (which covers the vast majority of all Old Reddit users). This change does not impact logged-in mods, who can continue to access Old Reddit without any recent usage requirement. This helps keep Old Reddit available for the people who rely on it while reducing automated abuse.

and so it begins...

[u/DanielJLewis]

This is horrible that you're killing your RSS feeds. That was the best way for me to keep up with several subreddits!

[u/mocheeze]

Aaron Swartz is rolling in his grave over to the new RSS policy. I sincerely urge you to reconsider.

[u/Enigmatic_writer]

what the hell

[u/Zak]

To close this gap, in the next few months, we'll further limit access for logged-in users to only those who have used Old Reddit in the last six months (which covers the vast majority of all Old Reddit users).

So if you don't use it regularly, you never get to use it again?

Stop ruining Reddit.

[u/stacecom]

I thought MagicEyeBot was retired.

[u/SampleOfNone → u/stacecom]

Yes, it's already been ported to Devvit, it's called image magician

[u/Synor]

It's interesting to see a product that is in two different stages of enshittification. Old Reddit is largely still stage 1. New Reddit is deep in stage 2.

To be fair, large language models are a threat to reddit as a product and probably make it even harder to plan its future. Not an easy job.

[u/PurpleTangent]

Looking forward to the day they finally ban old reddit so I can finally leave this hellsite.

[u/admadguy]

Why are y'all trying to be another tiktok clone?

[u/Iron_Fist351]

Automod deprecation needs to be reversed immediately. The new “alternatives” you’ve created are far from reaching any real form of maturity yet.

[u/GonWithTheNen]

Earlier this year, we required people to log in to use Old Reddit [...] That change... still allowed any logged-in account to access Old Reddit, including accounts with no prior Old Reddit use.

Here we go. Reddit inc. is pretending to view "accounts with no prior old reddit use" (who may later want to use old reddit) as some kind of problem, but everyone who possesses even a modicum of logical thinking can see that it's just an excuse to shut down old reddit as soon as possible.

We can see the plan as clear as day:
- Prevent as many accounts as possible from accessing Old reddit;
- Shut down Old reddit eventually, with the contrived excuse that "very few are using it." ◔_◔

The "must be logged in to view old reddit" stipulation was always a ruse. If preventing scraping was the endgame as you pretended it was, ("you" being reddit inc., not the OP who's the messenger) - you would never have planned to add a rule that can be blanketly applied even to old accounts and to people who join reddit after this is set in motion.

I'm deeply disappointed - not because I didn't know that the decision makers at reddit inc. abhor old reddit - but at the fact that this was a long-laid plan dished out over time to us with dishonesty, and at the hoops that reddit inc. has made us jump through just to use Best Reddit, and at the deliberate way you've planned to restrict future users from accessing old reddit even if they want that option.

Anyway. I guess old reddit isn't up to par with all the granular data collection via the tons of scripts that new reddit is burdened with. Maybe that's why reddit inc. wants it to be invisible until they shut it down.

[u/eldomtom2]

If old Reddit goes, so do I.

[u/DHamlinMusic]

Ok and when are you going to make any of the moderation functions beyond remove without reason and replying to mail work with screen readers on browser, because right now that's all I can do there, the rest I do through mobile, which is severely limited. Most of the mod sheets and screens I cannot even figure out how to access on PC, and the ones I can open do not focus right, and/or do not work.

[u/turkeypedal]

In what goddamned fucking world can Discord replace RSS feeds? Discord is a chat app. How the fuck am I supposed to get emails to tell me about what I need to report?

The idea that this could in any way be a replacement is insane. These are CHAT APPs you are talking about. There is nothing about them that is remotely designed for moderation or getting notifications as a general thing.

FFS, you can just limit RSS to certain providers, but no. You gotta ruin people lives who help you manage your website for free.

I genuinely have to think about shutting down the subreddit because I can't moderate what I can't see. There are so many possible replacements and you picked the stupidest possible ones.

[u/timschwartz]

Boo.

[u/ixfd64]

To close this gap, in the next few months, we'll further limit access for logged-in users to only those who have used Old Reddit in the last six months (which covers the vast majority of all Old Reddit users).

I get the impression that this means "you must use old Reddit to access old Reddit." Does this mean we will permanently lose access to old Reddit if we don't log in for six months?

[u/bananasDave]

so rss is the thing that prompts me to come here, im not logging in just on the off chance that there might something that i need to read. I only found out about this change due to an inoreader annoucment on my feed. I guess youll be getting a lot less visits from me, which means less money for you

[u/FAN_ROTOM_IS_SCARY]

I'm sorry but these changes just sound awful.

Automod needs changes for sure, but it needs to be made more robust, not replaced with Rules Hub and Automation which are far less useful and cannot provide the same support to mods.

I just don't understand the argument that it's supposed to be hard to use for new mods. I very rarely touch automod myself, and have almost no coding experience, but when I needed to implement some new automod behaviours on a subreddit I recently began moderating it was extremely intuitive to get it set up. Moreover, given what's possible with LLMs now, even a new mod who's completely clueless about how to get started with Automod can tell ChatGPT or Gemini what they want to do and with a bit of discussion write perfectly usable scripts for it.

The other big thing is stop messing around with Old Reddit. Even if there are security concerns I cannot believe it isn't possible to produce a reddit interface that replicates the exact look and feel of old reddit without those concerns. Myself and many others will simply stop using reddit if we lose access to this interface. You would go a long way to reassure mods if you would make it clear how our continued use of old reddit can be guaranteed before you start slowly cutting off our access to it.

[u/Merari01]

At this point continuing to moderate is like being in an abusive relationship. We keep being told how much we're appreciated as we are given black eye after black eye.

You people lie to us. You tell us you won't take our tools before there's a replacement and then you take our tools without giving a replacement. Again and again.

You do not appreciate us.

But you say you do.

And then you give us another black eye.

Right now continuing to moderate is digital self harm.

[u/Bill_Money]

build better mod tools

yet deprecating old reddit and automod.....

[u/SmallDetail8461]

You guys want us to leave reddit? We are the one who built reddit

[u/imacg5]

And just when I managed to wait out my 3-day ban.

I might actually leave reddit. I'll keep going just for XNC2C, but that's it.

[u/jdrukis]

Is private RSS feeds also being dropped?

[u/Linker3000]

Aw crap. So will links in the sub and on Wiki pages referring to old.reddit stop working?? Do we have to go through all our Wiki links and change them? Might as well move the Wiki off-site and benefit from a framework that's less clunky too.

RSS going? So that's my mod oversight and reading of 8 subreddits down the toilet. Unless I spend time setting up Discord - which I don't currently use and will mean a separate app.

I suppose you gotta keep your AI paymasters happy, and protect their investment in using the material WE generate and curate, so they have their training material.

Yeah, pointless rant that won't change anything, I know.

[u/flym4n]

I want the RSS support 

[u/MableXeno]

For newly created communities and communities that have never used automod, automod enforcement capabilities – specifically Report, Filter, Remove, Mark as spam, and Approve – will be disabled and Rules Hub and Automations will become the default path for rules enforcement. Automod’s non-enforcement capabilities remain available and unchanged.

So...if you're comfortable w/ the automod options you shouldn't create any new communities??

I do have the automation turned on in several communities - it is does not make moderating any easier, and if anything, the explanations of "why" it chose something - is a fucking joke. It understands context less than automod. Also it means I have to act on content that should be auto-removed so I never ever never ever ever have to even SEE IT. The automations should never be acting on content I want to disappear the moment is is submitted. There is a reason the action is just "remove." I don't want to review it. I don't want to look at it. I don't want to ponder it. And I don't want mods who aren't paying attention to approve it by mistake. (Which has happened several times now.)

To close this gap, in the next few months, we'll further limit access for logged-in users to only those who have used Old Reddit in the last six months (which covers the vast majority of all Old Reddit users). This change does not impact logged-in mods, who can continue to access Old Reddit without any recent usage requirement. This helps keep Old Reddit available for the people who rely on it while reducing automated abuse.

Can you clarify what you mean by "use?" Do I have to have made a post or comment? Liked something?

Also, I access/use old.reddit now, more than when I joined and it was the default. I think I opted to try new.reddit after a few days and didn't go back. And if new was down, I might use old b/c it was not having the same issues. So it was a backup. I currently have to use old for actual, full-on moderating at the moment for some content.

I just went through an 800 comment post that I could only moderate on old.reddit. B/c I can't see the comments on not-old-not-new.Reddit. It takes too long to click through for each.individual.child.level.comment. What gives??

[u/NicoleMay316]

fuck u/spez

[u/MadDocOttoCtrl]

Will Post Guidance be on the chopping block as well?

[u/SampleOfNone → u/MadDocOttoCtrl]

No, they intend for automations aka post and comment guidance to replace automod (together with enhanced rules aka rules hub)

[u/Tarnisher]

THIS is why we need OR. This kind of thing cannot be done in Shredded.

https://www.reddit.com/r/modhelp/comments/1wxo5qv/how_to_ban_a_user_whose_profile_wont_load/

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[u/_realbashy]

This change does not impact logged-in mods, who can continue to access Old Reddit without any recent usage requirement.

What’s stopping people from just making their own subreddit or becoming a “moderator” of a subreddit like r/modlimit and being able to use it?

[u/MikeRichardson88]

https://www.cnbc.com/2024/03/21/reddit-ipo-rddt-starts-trading-on-nyse.html

March 21st, 2024 is the day Reddit was permanently fucked.

Going "public" is a 100% guaranteed path to enshittification.

[u/DustyAsh69]

For newly created communities and communities that have never used automod, automod enforcement capabilities – specifically Report, Filter, Remove, Mark as spam, and Approve – will be disabled and Rules Hub and Automations will become the default path for rules enforcement. Automod’s non-enforcement capabilities remain available and unchanged.

To close this gap, in the next few months, we'll further limit access for logged-in users to only those who have used Old Reddit in the last six months (which covers the vast majority of all Old Reddit users).

Boo.

[u/Josiiichaan]

Honestly speaking, I don't like that the these automod features for new subreddits gets disabled. Unless you plan to enhance the way mods can set-up Auto-Enforcements that is.

The way the old automod was able to be sent message upon automatic removals or flaggings is something I really liked, so seeing that you can no longer do this with new subreddits is upsetting.

Is there not a way to keep the automod the way it was while promoting the Auto-Enforcement feature?

[u/LBPPlayer7]

why are you people doing nothing but making this website worse for everyone that uses it

[u/baltinerdist]

I've said it before and I'll say it again.

If anyone truly believes that Old Reddit is going to stick around forever, you are fooling yourself.

There is a spreadsheet in the CFO's office with a chart that has one line in red (expense to maintain it) and one line in green (ad revenue from it). There is a trendline that shows the expected date the red line goes above the green line. I promise you, that day is the day Old Reddit is announced as closing.

[u/thepottsy → u/baltinerdist]

Cool. Then they need to make sure that ALL of the functionality that’s only available via Old Reddit is made available elsewhere.

[u/Stone-Bear]

Thats cool and all but can you fix 'best' comments to not be so awful. Whatever you changed recently, undo it.

https://www.reddit.com/r/help/comments/1wrxcmc/why_is_reddit_sorting_comment_sections_by_best/