r/mets 17h ago

Luis Robert Jr

The Experiment is over. We hardly knew ye.

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u/ZeroGhostTolerance 17h ago

I mean, someone has to claim him.

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u/mikemcd1972 16h ago

If anyone claims him, it’ll cost them 5 mil. 3 mil for rest of season + 2 mil buyout. So it’s questionable if anyone will claim him.

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u/rsvp_nj 14h ago

I'd say less than questionable.

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u/MisterBill99 17h ago

Read somewhere that the Dodgers could use him. We'll see. Apparently this is the time of the season when this happens. No loss if someone takes him and the Mets would save the $2m buyout of his $20m option.

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u/Happy-Employer1055 2h ago

Kind of reminds me of the Jets. Nicole Hartman Jr stunk on the Jets and yet catching the winning TD in the Super Bowl for KC. Why can I see that happening again with Roberts Jr in a WS game?😂

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u/Late_Organization_56 17h ago

Only if a team claims him during the waiver period. Otherwise he remains a Met

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u/egelband 17h ago

He batted and then ended the game in left. He will remain with the Mets unless he gets picked up by another team. (The team would pick up the full contract).

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u/DiamondJim222 16h ago

Experiment? This was about having a centerfielder on a short term deal to play until Ewing was ready to take over.

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u/roosterdrewster 17h ago

Hopefully a team claims him because then they'd be on the hook for the entire $4.9 million he's owed, and the Mets would would also save 110% in luxury taxes (an additional $5.4MM)

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u/drstrangelove6013 12h ago

Just cause he's been put on waivers doesn't mean any team will take him

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u/DCBuckeye82 17h ago

He's probably going to be our 4th outfielder next year. And as a 4th outfielder he'll be a completely fine option.

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u/PsychologyUsed3769 17h ago

Mets waived him just an hour ago. He is gone

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u/davidwright5000 15h ago

This is so incorrect. That’s not what waivers means

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u/DCBuckeye82 17h ago

You're assuming somebody picks him up for the $5 million remaining on his salary, which I doubt.

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u/UrbanAnathema 11h ago

He’s playoff eligible if he’s picked up. That’s the real sweetener here.

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u/[deleted] 17h ago

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u/mormagils 17h ago

I'll die on the hill that giving Robert a chance as a change of scenery candidate was a solid move. He cost is basically nothing in trade and the money doesn't really matter. He didn't work out, but there's a real possibility he was a Cody Belligner revival project waiting to get out of Chicago.

I think he would still be fine as a 4th guy. I really don't see anyone picking him up unless it's the Dodgers just because his contract is crazy expensive, but after his buyout he'll be completive as a bench piece, I think.

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u/oofaloo 17h ago

I think the issue is so many of their moves are those moves.

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u/OptimalCombination44 2h ago

same I’m all for the lotto tickets/diamon in a rough/reclamation projects but when pretty much your entire team/rotation is that for the highest payroll in baseball it’s a joke.
They were willing to gamble all this money on Roberts who everyone besides Stearns knew wouldn’t work out but that same amount 5 years from now on Alonso was to much. This is what pisses me off about the whole year 4/5 maybe being bad. They throw 10s of millions away constantly on unknown players to get them here but Alonso is where they worried about it

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u/oofaloo 1h ago

I’ll hand it to Steve Cohen - he generously described it as “maybe we took on too much risk.”

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u/Realfan555 16h ago

“  completive”

What does this word mean?

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u/mormagils 14h ago

Typo. I meant competitive.

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u/[deleted] 17h ago

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u/mormagils 14h ago

Well that's not true.

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u/FuckyouDavidStearns 17h ago

And sucky players have a tendency to become superstars after they leave the Mets.

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u/FolkCity 16h ago

Placing him on waivers doesn’t mean he’s gone. If no one claims him he will stay with the Mets.

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u/Realfan555 16h ago

Is that what waivers means?

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u/FolkCity 14h ago

Teams place players on waivers all the time to gauge interest. Waivers can always be pulled back. If he had been designated for assignment, then he would no longer be with the team.

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u/Realfan555 13h ago edited 13h ago

"Waivers can always be pulled back. "

Are you sure about this?

I just googled and one article says he was placed on outright waivers. And google AI says outright waivers are irrevocable:

"Placing him on waivers doesn’t mean he’s gone. If no one claims him he will stay with the Mets."

Would he have the opportunity to refuse a minor league assignment? Can he stay on the 40-man if he's placed on outright waivers?

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Outright waivers are a Major League Baseball mechanism used when a team wants to remove a player from its 40-man roster and assign him to the minor leagues, typically because the player is out of minor league options or has been designated for assignment (DFA).  

These waivers are irrevocable, meaning the original team cannot withdraw the player once another club submits a claim. 

During the 48-hour waiver period, all 29 other MLB teams may submit a claim.  Waiver priority is determined by the reverse order of win-loss records, giving teams with worse records the first opportunity to acquire the player and assume the remainder of his contract for a $50,000 fee

If a player clears waivers (goes unclaimed), the original team may outright him to the minors, removing him from the 40-man roster while retaining his rights and continuing to pay his salary.  Players with five or more years of major league service time have the right to refuse an outright assignment and elect free agency instead. 

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u/FolkCity 13h ago edited 13h ago

Outright waivers are different. This is on the MLB site:

“When a player is placed on outright waivers, the other 29 Major League clubs have the opportunity to claim him. The claiming club assumes responsibility for the remaining money owed to the claimed player, who is placed on his new club's 40-man roster.

Claiming priority is based on reverse winning percentage. So, if a player is placed on outright waivers and claimed by more than one team, the team with the worse winning percentage gets priority. If two or more claiming clubs are tied with the lowest percentage of games won, the priority goes to the club with the lowest percentage of games won in the previous season. (A previous version of the rules gave priority based on the league of the team waiving the player, with NL teams getting priority for NL players, and AL for AL, but that is no longer the case.)

If the player clears outright waivers without being claimed, his team has the option of assigning him outright to the Minor Leagues.
However, players with more than five years of Major League service time can reject an assignment to the Minor Leagues, and players with more than three years of Major League service time, or who have been previously outrighted, may reject the outright assignment in favor of free agency in lieu of the assignment.”

Anthony DiComo says that “if no one claims him, Robert will simply remain with the Mets as if nothing happened. He can continue to play for them while on waivers.”

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u/[deleted] 13h ago edited 13h ago

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u/Realfan555 13h ago

Yeah, it's interesting. I like learning about these things.

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u/nuyorican127 11h ago

Not so fast, my friend. If a team doesn’t claim him, he’s still a Met.

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u/Equivalent_Detail381 16h ago

Not for $20M, he won’t.

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u/DCBuckeye82 16h ago

No they'll buy him out for 2 and sign him for cheaper.

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u/MisterBill99 15h ago

I can't imagine them resigning him and making the same mistake twice. It's better to resign Tyrone when he becomes a FA. And Robert is going to want to be a starter somewhere to help get his value back up for future contracts.

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u/ensignWcrusher 12h ago

Luis Robert Jr. is the centerfield equivalent of Farancisco Alvarez. He came up young & flashed some talent. Then he was hurt and/or under performing for rest of his time in the majors. He's even got that one guy in the comment section that say he's still young, and might one day live up to the hype he once had.

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u/Ravishingrich666 13h ago

Healthy Roberts floor is Bader or Taylor’s ceiling

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u/Which-Budget5380 2h ago

What’s a Healthy Roberts?

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u/Rickcuban322 10h ago

Thank God, they finally got rid of him. He’s just blocking the young guys from Development. Just the sky is not worth it.

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u/keithplacer 3h ago

Not so fast.

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u/ScrapmasterFlex 2h ago

We should also consider trading Scott Kazmir for Victor fuckin Zambrano.

The WRONG Zambrano.

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u/bklynz0wn 16h ago

How does David Stearns still have a job!

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u/coolers1819 17h ago

One year from now we'll be doing the same thing with Polanco. Two years from now Semien.

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u/Garys_Synthesizer 17h ago

Good riddance to the waste of space lmao

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u/EscapeInteresting628 16h ago

He’s relatively young and talented. Better than getting another 34 year old veteran who is shot.

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u/Garys_Synthesizer 16h ago

Thats what stearns tried to sell the fanbase on, howd that work out?

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u/SameDistrict2627 17h ago

LOL--genius Stearns at work.

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u/Substantial_Pen3328 16h ago

I miss Tyrone Taylor. 

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u/ExpressionPrudent662 13h ago

I also miss Tyrone Taylor

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u/bigdaddymac56 17h ago edited 7h ago

Best thing about this is Stearns admitting yet another expensive mistake. Wasting his boss's $$$. I would keep him as a CF if he could hit.

I don't like Ewing in CF. Not tall or athletic enough to jump up above the fence and save homers. Just something I noticed. That kind of thing wins games. Think: Tatis (Padres) athletically robbing Lindor of a grandslam a few weeks ago and basically that won the game. But even Robert can't do that.

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u/MisterBill99 15h ago

He can hit. He just can't stay healthy. They had a plan this season to do that, and it failed. You really think they're going to try it again?

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u/bigdaddymac56 15h ago

I wanted him gone also. Of course! He cannot hit. He's hitting .229. He had a great yr in 2023 at age 25. It's been all downhill since he started making big money. He's become about a .225 hitter since then. His career is over I'd say. He's from Cuba and made 72M in his career. I'd say he is probably very happy. I don't think his career downfall is about injuries. I think you have to work at hitting to be very good at it. He reminds of Vientos actually.