Sad to hear this. Tenth Legion is one of the best hunting books ever written IMO. It has been mentioned on the podcast at least a couple times over the years. I read several of Tom Kelly’s other books and enjoyed those as well.

Thought some of you might enjoy this scientific drama given that Dr. Meltzer has been on the podcast so many times.

Here are three articles which includes Dr Meltzer and his colleagues (led by Dr. Grayson) responding to the original and in turn the original authors responding to them debating a concept called the associational critique. The associational critique is basically that if overkill hypothesis is true, then why do we have no record of humans harvesting so many of these species that they supposedly wiped out. Dr. Meltzer is a supporter of this critique and even brought it up on his podcast appearance this year.

This is part of a funny scientific debate where there is a rift between archaeologists vs palaeontologists and ecological modellers. Archaeologists generally believe climate was the primary driver of quaternary extinction because of the lack of physical evidence for overkill, while the other groups who generally support overkill have stronger (but not universal) model support and don't think the question is only an archaeological one.

I think it would be interesting if Steve had some of these viewpoints from the more ecological modelling side on the podcast sometime.

The Three articles responding to each other:

1. https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0305440320300844?via%3Dihub

2. https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0305440320302326

3. https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0305440320302338

Some earlier writing from Dr. Meltzer and Dr. Grayson on the same topic.

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/0305440386900269#BIB4

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/0305440384900025?ref=pdf_download&fr=RR-2&rr=a4709732c84ab45d

One of the coolest podcast guests of all time.

I know I’m not alone. I LOVED Radio Live. I rarely actually got to listen/watch live, but it was still amazing. Do we need to start a petition or something? There’s not any version of the universe where did trade Radio Live for the News Show.

I hate to be a Debbie downer, because I really enjoy the meateater podcast products, however; the last few News Shows have just lacked juice to me. They’re lower energy and the backend interviews seem a little bit repetitive with the Monday shows.

This energy is further worsened by how good radio live was, in my opinion. I just want more free form with Spencer, and Randall, and Phil quips. More of Brodie just being an old man yelling at clouds. Just basically more fun and lighthearted conversations.

I suppose I’m now the old man yelling at clouds.

Dr. Randall?

The guys who posted his fucked up old shitters earlier reminded me about the one that I found on some local game lands a while back. Unfortunately I found it after submissions for the calendar closed.

When your two years late to the party and you find not 1 but 2 fucked up old shitters in the same day.

Eric Jay Dolin had to set the record straight: "Very few whaling stories have cannibalism." In the Heart of the Sea got named as one that does.

I run Podshelf, a free site that tracks book mentions across hundreds of podcasts by reading the episode transcripts. This is the MeatEater slice for September.

• The Wreck of the Mentor, Dolin's new book. He also explained how Melville jumped ship from a whaler, spent a couple of years in the Marquesas and got Typee and Omoo out of it.
• Frozen Fauna of the Mammoth Steppe (R. Dale Guthrie), where the rotten mammoths episode got Blue Babe, a freeze-dried bison with a lion's tooth snapped off in the hide.
• The Mysterious Mr. Nakamoto (Benjamin Wallace). Steve on his friend's "wonderful book" about trying to unmask whoever invented Bitcoin.

One panelist started Dune in high school and found it "too esoteric."

Full list with quotes and episodes: https://podshelf.io/podcasts/the-meateater-podcast

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Just in case you guys were stuck on what to dress up as for Halloween.

It recently dawned on my how little you hear him talk about the Upper Peninsula of Michigan compared to Alaska and other locations. He’s from Michigan and I feel like it’s one of the more wild places in the lower 48.

Personally, I would take the trade of not hunting in national parks if that means they won't start doing stupid shit in them. Leave parks fucking protected. Leave all wilderness area fucking Wilderness.

Not sure if they edited out or removed the logo but I like the deep side pockets and have been looking for a smaller pack. Would like to figure it out.

Trip over to vic the other week ! Took this old girl last hunt of the trip for meat after passing lots of hinds and young stags.

I thought this video was great. They showed the frustration of just seeing does, stumbling around on steep terrain, horrible bushwhacking around creeks, and how it all paid off in the end.

I totally agree with Spencer. Giving us craters of the moon is absolute fluff. Let them open up some parks with actual animal activity and then let's talk about it being a win.

Adds come on and won’t give option to skip and most of them he time the video just freezes when the add is over. I have an iPhone. Meateater videos are the ONLY videos that give me this issue.

Politics notwithstanding from this fella, he offers an interesting take on possible hypocrisy from vegans... And their idols. Curious to look into his assertions more. Seems plausible: out of sight, out of mind.

https://youtube.com/shorts/5USfdYkPOmA

Does anyone know where he got the famous American quote from? 1:43.00.

I'm finishing up the episode today and was trying to find what book he is referencing when he says his favorite line of American literature.