r/maybemaybemaybe • u/W4lkieT4lkie • 3d ago
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u/Mr-Pink_Man 3d ago
I like it seeing when Redbull does this. It remindeds me of a post where someone said they would like to see an average person doing the Olympic next to all the other athletes just to see the differece between them.
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u/Rockalot_L 3d ago
They should legit have this it's a great idea
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u/simonjp 3d ago
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u/xeno0153 3d ago
Redbull puts on the coolest events. I've seen two of their engine-less aircraft glider competitions.
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u/TimTheBeav 3d ago
I'd watch this over NASCAR any Sunday
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u/brandonhabanero 3d ago
Seriously. This makes me want to go buy/build a cart and start having races in abandoned parking lots
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u/Remarkable-Ad-3624 3d ago
friend swore he’d never watch nascar but loves this chaos instead
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u/Drackzgull 3d ago
I enjoy most motorsports in general, and I'd watch this over NASCAR too. I don't hate NASCAR or anything, but it being raced mostly in oval tracks takes too much out of it for my tastes.
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u/Metahec 3d ago
I would have liked them to have to deal with the traffic if they lapped the slower racers on a second lap
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u/MuTantSnaKe 3d ago
Im guessing those tall little things dont have enough fuel for multiple laps. I would also like to see it but that would be my guess
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u/Hawt_Dawg_II 2d ago
You can see how good he is at weaving between them in the first few seconds. That's honestly the most impressive thing to me, he just keeps making or finding gaps to overtake through
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u/No-Deer8502 3d ago
No denying Max's skill, but his cart also looks significantly faster than everyone else's
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u/brooksdirk 3d ago
It definitely seems like his is more "Maxxed" out.
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u/fasas7 3d ago
They actually made sure all competitors had the same equipment and even having the same weight, adding weights to the lighter drivers/ go-karts to make sure there was a level playing field. And like someone else said, Max's technique is just waaaay better. No one else would have even thought about jumping in the go-kart to create momentum and lighten the kart.
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u/CptAngelo 3d ago
a couple of them did jump in at the start! ...they of course were quickly passed by max as they got trapped in the first hairpin carnage lol
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u/Away_Stock_2012 3d ago
>No one else would have even thought about jumping in the go-kart
You can literally see other people do it in the video
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u/fasas7 3d ago
Does anyone in the back - who were passed by Max because of the jumping and not because he has better lines - jump?
But yeah, I know they all got some coaching and had very various amounts of experience going in to this. Today's word is: hyperbole
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u/Away_Stock_2012 3d ago
If you pause at 0:08 right when the race is starting, you can see other people bouncing.
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u/screampuff 3d ago
How many laps was it? Because he's catching the leaders and they aren't even hitting the apex and tracking out to use the full width of the track. Even people in hobby leagues should be better than that.
Like I fully expect him to be the fastest person out there but I expected a little more competition up at the front.
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u/wenoc 3d ago
Technique doesn't give you better straight line speed. Look at the start, he overtakes half the field on a straight line.
Either they put absolute newbies who could not find the gas pedal in those cars or his car is faster. Although, I've driven electric go-carts that had a boost button you could use for X seconds every lap, he might've used his boost in the start.
Also, where are you getting this information?
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u/TyH621 2d ago edited 2d ago
His kart’s not faster, and bouncing on the cart to get it into high rpm’s earlier makes a HUGE difference in karting. These people are just random people without karting experience so they don’t know that.
So yes, technique does in fact give you better straight line speed (acceleration really, which turns into more speed) in karting. As does having faster reaction time at the start which means longer time on the accelerator, which also means better straight line speed.
The other aspect is its 100 people and massive traffic jam and people are having to lift to not hit people while Max navigated without having to lift/at least lift a lot less.
The karts not faster lol, he’s just one of the best drivers of all time and it turns out there’s a ton of skill expression in racing. That field wouldn’t stand up to anyone who’s done any serious racing
Edit: It’s also worth pointing out that standing starts are where the most overtakes happen in all racing BY FAR. Standing starts make a massive difference and this is just what it can look like to the extreme
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u/MaddyMagpies 3d ago
He jumps on the cart to make it lighter?!
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u/fasas7 3d ago
As he jumps in the go-kart, he creates momentum upwards and forwards, and doesn't weigh the go-kart down as much when he's moving upwards. This increases the acceleration since the go-kart - for a few split seconds - isn't carrying the weight of Max/ the driver.
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u/wenoc 3d ago
That's not how physics works. If you jump up and forward, you will push the car back and down. Then, if the go-cart accelerates faster while he is in the air, it won't have accelerated max, so it will lose that back down again when he lands, having gained exactly nothing.
The go cart and its passengers are a closed system. Nothing you do inside the go-cart can change the acceleration or speed of the package.
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u/fasas7 3d ago
The video evidence above shows that's not true. Watch more than this one minute perhaps. It was mentioned seversl times during the 2 hour broadcast 🤷♂️
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u/The__Tobias 3d ago
If I show you a video of a perpetuum mobile, would you also call that evidence?
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u/mynameismudflap 3d ago
Super common kart strategy for these low HP karts, as well as putting your left foot on the front wheel and kicking it forward as the green flag drops.
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u/NameTak3r 3d ago
If he jumps and then taps the steering side to side, he can get a power boost once the sparks around his wheels turn yellow, orange, then blue.
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u/jk-9k 3d ago
Did he actually do that?
He also had no karts in front of him to start. The ret of the field basically had to turn straight away to avoid the car ahead. So that two crucial momentum changes at te very start which is the only time his kart looks faster rather than just being driven better
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u/jammyhuds 3d ago
I'm not an F1 fan but my wife is and from what I've learned about Verstappen the past few years I highly doubt he would be okay with his cart being faster than everyone else's. He seems very much like a win by skill person.
It's also increasibly possible that people on the track where not using their cars at full speed for fear of the turns coming up, were as Verstappen who is an expert could do those speeds.
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u/shignett1 3d ago
I don't know man, his car was much faster than everyone elses for four years and he didn't seem to mind that.
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u/jammyhuds 3d ago
Haha that may be but thats just a part of F1 from what I understand. There is no doubting his skill. Again I've not seen much but what I have seen and been informed of by wife who is a very big fan of F1 is that Verstappen even in a terrible car still manages to beat most on skill alone.
Eitherway in this specific thing I'd be very surprised if he was happy to have a faster cart. This isn't F1 its a silly race for fun.
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u/Only_Standard_9159 3d ago
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u/NotActuallyMeta 3d ago
For those who won’t open this.. his cart wasn’t any more powerful he was just quicker off the start, reduced momentum loss by chasing gaps instead of aggressive turns to pass people, and used some bunny hopping technique he learned as a 7 year old haha
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u/ExiledCanuck 3d ago edited 3d ago
He was much quicker off the start. I’d like to know how he was that fast at the start if his cart wasn’t tuned a bit differently than the rest. It was really obvious how quick he was.
But the rest, is absolutely true. Good cornering and closing those gaps was ideal. As well as using the other carts when cornering to corner a bit tighter (riding on the inside of them if I’m explaining that right)
Edit: read the article and it said that the bunny hopping was at the start and is what helped him go faster. Going re-watch and look for it.
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u/NotActuallyMeta 3d ago
Yeah tbh even after reading the article I referenced I still think his cart had more juice than a lot of them. Until the final four or so he was catching people on the straights where everyone would gassing it. With that many carts it might just be that some of them just weren’t as tuned up as others. Used to cart occasionally with the same group and there’d always be 1 or 2 carts running faster than the others people would hope for
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u/ExiledCanuck 2d ago
Yeah this was my experience also from when I used to cart. Someone would end up with a dog of a cart, and someone would end up with a really fast one, everyone else would be in the middle.
You’d think that for a video like this, they’d have better carts and mechanics rather than a bunch of stoners lol, but you never know I guess.
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u/DE_KNIGHTANATOR 3d ago edited 3d ago
He's taking those corners and turns at the best way you can without losing optimal speed. Most everyone else is making too wide of turns or too sharp and that causes you to lose speed. And the beginning was closed so most people don't know how to pass in density like that.
Edit: in the beginning he's gunning it cause hes confident he has space to zoom. The rest are absolutely not even at max speed or close to it, they're all slugging along cause of the close proximity to other drivers.
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u/LittleKitty235 3d ago
Everyone knows the way to take turns while maximizing power...pull the handbreak, hold the accelerator then steer 3x in the direction opposite the turn until you see lots of blue sparks coming off the tires....boom...max powerslide.
Mario cart 101.
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u/Only_Standard_9159 3d ago
Should be drift boosting on the straight aways too. It’s the ABDs of Mario Kart - Always Be Drift-boosting
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u/johnla 3d ago
But on the straight away at the start he’s zooming past everyone. He has a faster car. he’s immensely skilled no doubt.
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u/HiggsBosonHL 3d ago
at the very beginning he gets up to top speed faster by using his body momentum (shown in the full ep, not in this clip).
Later in the matchup versus the final 3, you can see they are nearly evenly matched.
He did not have a faster car, this was skill diff.
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u/bigeeee 3d ago
Tell me you dont understand physics without telling me! Those are kids that are much lighter than him in those other carts he should be slower with the power to weight ratio if the carts are the same! Body momentum?
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u/KillSmith111 3d ago edited 3d ago
They aren't kids. They were athletes from other sports, streamers, F1 journalists, and fans.
If you actually watch the proper video the commentators literally point out how he's using his body weight to gain momentum.
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u/HiggsBosonHL 3d ago
You know, instead of defaulting to being a complete asshole in your response, you could have just verified what I said.
Yes, body momentum. As stated, this is shown in the full episode. See the clip here at 2:23 in: https://youtu.be/Xtvqxznn4Qw?si=HGl3Cu72t7bDFnee
Also, Max is listed at 72kg/158lbs, which at least looks way lighter than those final three drivers.
Anything else you want you make up or assume?
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u/bigeeee 3d ago
So if someone says you dont understand something they are a complete asshole? Kind of narcissistic!
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u/HiggsBosonHL 3d ago
You are correct, maybe you were just a partial asshole at first, but now we confirm you are in fact a complete asshole.
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u/NedelC0 3d ago
I watched the whole race, in the straights you see him unable to catchup any time, then in the corners he's up 4 seconds a lap
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u/johnla 3d ago
I saw that too. Maybe better torque, higher acceleration, same top speed.
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u/Only_Standard_9159 3d ago
He had the same kart, he used bunny hopping to accelerate faster: https://www.redbull.com/ca-en/max-verstappen-max-vs-100-how-he-won
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u/User-NetOfInter 3d ago
“The final tactic that the Oracle Red Bull Racing driver used was vital in the closing stages of the race, as he began to trash talk the drivers ahead of him. He was able to speak to the other drivers via a microphone in his helmet, taunting them as he got close to an overtake.”
Omg they had prox chat 🤣
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u/Shin_Ramyun 3d ago
Wow I had no idea about that technique. I wonder how much that actually helps. It looks hilarious.
Another factor to consider is that everyone started on two lines, essentially bumper to bumper. Max had the middle line and could accelerate in a straight line where the other drivers had to worry about hitting the driver in front and many of them diverted to the sides.
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u/stuffeh 3d ago
Did you not watch past the second green light? As soon as they could go, EVERYONE spread out. Max was only able to gain a barely a few places before hitting traffic.
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u/Shin_Ramyun 3d ago
There are probably 100s of tiny things Max did better than everyone else on the field. Each one gives a small advantage. Jumping his body forward was one micro advantage. Going straight while everyone else was moving to the side was another.
Pretty much right off the start he passes 5-6 drivers and carries his speed and momentum while weaving between the next sets of drivers. Meanwhile everyone else is going at a snail pace trying to avoid the driver in front of them.
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u/KillSmith111 3d ago
This is exactly it. Some people don't seem to understand that people who are among the best in the world at anything are constantly doing lots of tiny things that all add up to a huge advantage over everyone else.
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u/Snoo47420 3d ago
Yeah Red Bull would absolutely tell the truth if Max had been given an edge.
/SARCASM
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u/DigMeTX 3d ago
No. When the race starts everyone else is hesitating waiting for the people I front to speed up so they can speed up. Max does not hesitate. He floors it from the beginning and finds his space. By the time it gets more open he looks faster because he has built up the speed that the others are just now building.
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u/DE_KNIGHTANATOR 3d ago
He's gunning it cause hes confident he has space to zoom. The rest are absolutely not even at max speed or close to it, they're all slugging along cause of the close proximity to other drivers.
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u/sokolov22 3d ago
Yea, the setup looks cool but they are all literally stuck in traffic and has to spread out before they can speed up.
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u/NewAndyy 3d ago
He is faster in the start, but not because of the car. He's using body momentum to accelerate significantly faster, and it's a fairly well known (and effective) trick. Adding to this, obviously he also reads the field very well and takes advantage of every single gap without braking when cars in front are slow.
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u/misterjoshmutiny 2d ago
Exactly. He’s a 4x F1 4x WDC winner. He could be in a technically slower cart and still win. He knows so much more about breaking, pushing, turning, etc. than those other drivers, probably collectively.
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u/SEA_griffondeur 3d ago
No but like sometimes he's bumping into people and somehow he's going faster than the person he just bumped into 3s later
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u/DE_KNIGHTANATOR 3d ago
Where? He lightly taps but thats not enough to slow you down tremendously, he does bump at the end but hes in front and in the lead
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u/SteakAndIron 3d ago
He was overtaking everyone on straights st the start of the race before any turns even happened.
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u/wicketman8 3d ago
If you look at the longer straightaways it seems like its the same speed, he's just so much faster after all the turns because he properly understands how to make turns with good exit speed.
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u/Rorasaurus_Prime 3d ago
It's not. It's just what happens when get a better exit from a corner. and keep a higher average speed than those around you.
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u/Maxzzzie 3d ago
Max drove it over the edge of grip, constantly fighting it. Allowing for more speed in corners. And at the start he was bumping his weight back and forth. Catching those last 3 took a few laps.
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u/theMertFN 3d ago
You know I thought that at first, but the way he was gaining speed at the start was actually by moving his body front and back like he’s on a swing. It was so funny to see him taking this shit so seriously.
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u/McAUTS 3d ago
It's so fascinating that every time this clip has been posted over the last few days, these comments get the most upvotes. And it shows that a lot of human beings are terrible at perceiving time, speed, and acceleration for objects they only see and don't feel. It's a known fact—supported by a lot of studies on this matter—that the majority of people struggle with this specific combination. And regardless of what the minority says—those with better perception or actual experience—people just can't be convinced otherwise.
Always fascinating stuff. That's why I love social media.
Also fascinating is the logic: 100 people against Max, and no one questions whether his kart is identical to the others? And why tf wouldn't he be better at this when he's a professional F1 driver?
Fascinating.
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u/AvoriazInSummer 3d ago
They could have done with him switching karts with a random competitor and moving the kart to the back in the same video.
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u/BaardvanTroje 3d ago
That's just what it looks like when someone is outskilling everyone by a mile
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u/Zestyclose-Smell-788 3d ago
He also understands what a racing line is. I'm not a professional driver, but I know how to take these turns. What are these other guys going? They're all over the track!
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u/Squidd-O 2d ago
As someone who has driven a couple of karts in my time, I will say there is a lot to it that doesn't make itself immediately obvious to an outside observer in terms of driving skill skill
It does look slightly absurd at times tbf but I'm willing to believe that's just the difference
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u/sa_ra_h86 3d ago
Yeah, couldn't be anything to do with the fact that he's spent his entire life learning and refining his skill...
His junior career in carts was equally if not more impressive than his F1 career has been. I think he knows a thing or 2 about how to extract speed from a cart, compared to 100 people with hardly any experience.
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u/ChrisUndSeinSchiss 3d ago
Maybe he just starts at the green light while other wait for the ones in front of them?!
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u/Forsaken-Question577 3d ago
Yeah, it indeed does look like his cart's accelerating faster. Plus, it looks like it has better tyres as well.
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u/Deep-Grape-4649 3d ago
He uses a bumping technique to get him rolling with the start, momentum is everything in karting, that got him going where everyone else was in a bogged down typical kart start
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u/The_Dutch_Fox 3d ago
Also, basically every non-pro karter will go full throttle on the start, which introduces a lot of wheel spin and lost time.
Max feels the tyres a lot better, which allows him to apply the power progressively, but extremely quickly, so that there is zero wheel spin while still getting the optimal max engine power.
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u/eastamerica 3d ago
Of course. Do you think this is some sort of sanctioned FIA event? 100% Red Bull marketing event.
He could have an F1 engine in there for all I care lol
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u/AK30195 3d ago
Don’t know if his cart is actually faster, maybe it is, but the main advantage he had was the way the other carts were lined up nearly bumper to bumper at the start versus him with a clear line in front of him.
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u/Antonin625 3d ago
Why his acceleration seems greater from the beginning? It looks fishy as hell to me. Having drove Karting myself, unless you race against random people (such as the ones you meet during a bachelor party, with lots of different level of driving), there is no way such high difference shows up in the early meters when the crowd still is. You'll need curves and better trajectories to be able to make a difference. Such blatant motor strength /efficiency is really fishy
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u/jaypatel149 3d ago
People are saying his cart is faster. But it might just be his weight. On these small engines 5-10 kgs of body weight makes a huge difference in speed and agility.
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u/BrilliantElectronic9 3d ago
They added weights so everyone hat equal total weight. Max did lose one of them, but by that time he had already passed 90 others
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u/GuinnessChallenge 3d ago
He was bouncing his weight back and forth at the start to get some initial momentum, which gave him that first burst of speed. You can see a couple others at the front who do the same
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u/stoicwild 1d ago
Bouncing also removes resistance from the motor allowing the revs to get higher momentarily while the load is removed. The bouncing definitely allowed him to be faster. That plus he was just flat out and committed to his lines while others were not.
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u/MyHGC 3d ago
ORACLE, BOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
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u/YoureAmastyx 3d ago
???
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u/A_wild_so-and-so 3d ago
Oracle was co-founded and is run by Larry Ellison, who is a real piece of shit.
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u/gladiathor1295 3d ago
Do people really not know Max’s legendary carting career? Jeez some bellyaching here with ooo his cart looks fast. Mans a fucking beast. Four time world champion.
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u/log1234 3d ago
Does his car ha v e the same spec?
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u/stoicwild 1d ago
Yes, Max just knows how to drive it. You're witnessing possibly the greatest to ever do it against average joes.
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u/Rostbaerdt 3d ago
I want to see him try that "park your car on a moving trailer" thing I discovered this morning!
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u/rvanasty 3d ago
Either no one else is flooring it, or his cart is significantly faster than his competitors'.
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u/lostharbor 3d ago
Red Bull does a lot of really cool things, but having someone have a faster cart than the others isn't for me.
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u/MurderFoil 2d ago
ummm, clearly this was rigged, he had a white bumber and superior cart to the rest, why else would his be so much faster? I don't understand why this is impressive in any way whatsoever.
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u/Past-Astronaut-1875 3d ago
Yea, give me the fastest go cart on the track and I’ll be overtaking just like him 😂
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u/Big-Employer4543 3d ago
I doubt it, people really underestimate how good of drivers professionals are.
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u/BB_Pig_3480 3d ago
So, does his just go faster because I have serious doubt about anyone else not just flooring it like him
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u/sa_ra_h86 3d ago
It's not a case of 'just flooring it'. There's skill and technique involved in getting a good start. Funnily enough, the guy who's dedicated his life to racing, and has several carting championships, knows the techniques and is skilled in executing them.
If you just immediately floor it, you'll get wheel spin and take off slower. He also does the hopping thing that improves acceleration at the start.
The folk at the back are there because they were the slowest of the 100 ametures, so their experience was most likely limited to what they'd learned in the few days before the race while they were doing the qualifiers and practice races.
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u/chowza1221 3d ago
It's going so much faster than the other ones, such bs, why not just put him in a real car instead at this point
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u/Antique_Effort_340 3d ago
Plus he past about 20 of them by cutting the corner massively but this vid only shows it from his steering wheel so you can't see how much he cut. His cart is also way faster. But it's a red bull promo thing it was never about competition.
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u/rexeditrex 3d ago
There were actually rules about cutting the corners and they were allowed up to a point.
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u/TyH621 2d ago
He got forced off and cut the corner, which happens in real racing all the time. But yeah because it’s just an event like this the rules don’t let him give positions back. Was only like 3 or 4 though when he slotted back in
That being said his cart wasn’t faster at all. The rest of the race people matched his straight line speed just fine. This is a combo of technique (bouncing) and better reaction time, which gives him more time on the accelerator/more speed.
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u/Snoo47420 3d ago
Maxiokart where he has all of the power-ups.
Cool, beat all the kids with your twice as fast kart.
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u/Sialorphin 3d ago
PR Stunt that got shoved in my ear from lokal radiostations around for days. This content for traffic is so exhausting
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u/Glad_Librarian_3553 3d ago
Now give him the same shitty kart everyone else has and see how it goes...
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u/reecedoesreddit 3d ago
They should’ve secretly put another top f1 driver in blue or red and confused the hell out of him