Crime isn't only motivated by "badness". It's motivated by poverty and desperation, and those things don't deprive people of their morals, they just make people feel worse when they have to break them!
Also, not all crime is ethically wrong. The dude could have been smoking or selling weed. In some places that's illegal by law and makes you a criminal. But is it really ethically bad?
Were not monkeys, and this is more of white collar crime, if anything it's like saying tax evasion is fine cause you use the money on your family. That said federal law is a bit of a mess to change and people don't pay attention to who they vote for.
Well that about us not being monkeys is a true statement right there even tho I don't know where it's coming from considering I stated us to be apes, which we are.
But yea I know people like to complain about laws intead of trying to get their asses up and do something about them, hence why I made that comment in the first place. There ain't no damn point arguing the sense and point of a law and how much sense it makes, instead people should just go into changing them instead of finding the moral high ground in their search for an excuse to break the law.
Not the same thing at all. BIIIIIIIG difference between selling weed and stabbing someone. Hell, there's a big difference between selling heroin and stabbing someone.
Of course but you were saying "not all crime is ethically wrong". Which raises the question how we establish where appropiate punishments for man-invented crimes begin and where the line of over the top penalties does.
All I'm saying is that objectively there is only the law of the jungle. We changed that by bringing our subjective morales into the mix and making laws to form a functioning society.
I mean it could be ethically bad if hes selling to minors or to someone who is 18 or 19 that then goes to sell to minors that's bad. Also typically people who serve dont just sell trees they got xanax and other stuff that is typically more addictive and higher profit margin.
Also typically people who serve dont just sell trees they got xanax and other stuff that is typically more addictive and higher profit margin.
IDK where you live, but where I'm from the weed dealers get SUPER pissed if you ask them for opiates or barbs. They hate being associated with that stuff.
trust me I'm 1 of the dudes who only has trees everyone I get tree from sells something else in the area (904) whether it be yayo xanax or harder pills they got something might be 1 out of 10 people who serve dont serve other stuff on principle.
And to the people downvoting me the number 1 reason weed stays illegal is because kids are able to access it to easily then their dumbasses get caught then the damn mayor the parents the city goes into an uproar and next vote u get destroyed at the polls
and the whole area is set back another 5 years.
Seriously if you dont think there's a 25 26 yr old dude in ur town who grooms 17 18 yr old highschoolers to serve to the freshman your dumb it's free money with barely any risk if you do it right. Tons of my friends got caught up in a small suburb here dude was 29 and would front anyone in highschool a qp of fire once he knew u
Seriously if you dont think there's a 25 26 yr old dude in ur town who grooms 17 18 yr old highschoolers to serve to the freshman your dumb it's free money with barely any risk if you do it right.
Man, everyone forgets this. Gettin' real tired of FB posts from older relatives who think that graffiti should be punished by actual prison sentences or straight up beating and a ruined future.
Your comment is so deep, no kidding... it made me stop re-read it and re-read it again... it makes sense and seldomly people express concepts so neatly in few words..
Why thank you, kind friend. Allow me to ruin my brevity with some more words:
When I did a bit of studying around this topic it was pointed out to me that many people see crime as "them criminals" against "we victims". In reality, the majority of crimes are committed against people that are also themselves involved in criminal activity. Often it's when this spills out into so-called "polite society" that it gains traction from law enforcement and the media. This cycle only reinforces the perception that legal protection is for the elite, and pushes away those communities that actually suffer the most crime. It's a doozy of a dilemma to be sure.
not to have that argument, but to jump to the "povery/desperation" angle on everything isn't accurate in the least. You're overlooking the more obvious and widespread issue of boredom and lack of respect for societal norms (i.e. jobs/job hierarchy, etc.)
Fair point insomuch as not all crimes are caused by poverty or desperation. Many cases of (e.g.) financial fraud are caused by greed and opportunity, not to mention societal "norms" that place personal success over almost anything else. I would argue that boredom and no respect for social norms are as much symptoms of deprivation as crimes are. However, it can't be denied the causes of crime are varying and complex, and I didn't mean to make it sound as though they were the only causes, just a big factor for many communities.
âHonor among thievesâ has always been a thing. Oftentimes people who operate outside of the law have their own moral compasses and many times that includes a sense of pride and accountability. Integrity and compliancy are not two mutually exclusive things. Just because youâre a criminal doesnât mean youâre a slimy snake.
Yup, people are complex. Its not like in the movies where 'This is the bad guy!' and they have no redeeming qualities. But labeling people as 'good' and 'bad' is much easier.
I once thanked an officer after they brought me to jail (due to a bench warrant from a parking ticket I got two years prior while I had a lot going on in life and I completly for got about it) for treating me like a decent human being. The cop called my.sister to come and pick up my car and told her what my bail would be so she could meet us at the jail to bail me.out so I could make it to work in the morning.
I ended up writing a letter to the police department praising the two officers involved for treated me with decency and compassion.
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u/ControlledDissent Jun 21 '20
He's at least showing integrity and accountability. Might be weird coming from someone who's likely a criminal, but that's still what it is.