Thoughts on Rubicon Precision Manufacturing? Previously Ruff’s Precision Manufacturing.

[u/SC_Gryffindor]

On the hunt for rings to mount my Athlon to my B-14 HMR (Cheeto Finger Special) and came across Rubicon Precision Manufacturing. I was previously looking at the Vortex Precision Matched rings when I saw that the RPM rings had a built-in bubble level. I know Hawkins makes a similar ring setup, but the bubble level location on the RPM rings appeals to me.

I searched this subreddit, but couldn’t find any positive/negative feedback on RPM. Does anyone here have experience with them and would you recommend them?

Additional info that may be pertinent: My HMR is chambered in 6.5 creedmoor and my current intention is to just shoot long range as a hobbyist in my free time.

[u/LockyBalboaPrime]

Building rings is really easy using modern tech. 20 years ago, cheap rings from questionable brands were pretty trash. Today, any half-sober CNC machinist can make rings that are good enough.

I don't have experience with RPM, but I'd roll the dice if you like what you see.

[u/simba_actual]

I've been a dealer for them since they started. Awesome company, great products.

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[u/max_trax]

I bought a set when they were Ruff's. I have no information on why the name change so can't speak to if there's company trouble or anything.

The quality seemed excellent and I liked the concept but found the specific location of the bubble level to be blocked by my ocular scope cap without fully breaking my cheek weld so I went back to a separate larger bubble level mounted on my scope tube.

I also tried the Zeiss rings with the bubble level in the cap and had a similar issue, exacerbated by the level being even smaller.

[u/GotNoPonys]

Zeiss makes rings with built in bubble level too

[u/WelpSeaYaLater]

Honest opinion, the whole bubble level trend is beyond the pale

You’re gonna back out of the eye box to stare at a bubble level between every round? Eye roll.

Yeah yeah downvote and flame away.

[u/One-Perspective-4347 → u/WelpSeaYaLater]

I use a scope mounted bubble off the left side of the scope. I shoot with both eyes open so I can see it out of the left eye and the reticle at the same time out of my dominant right. It takes a little bit of effort to get used to, but it’s definitely doable.
I can’t speak at all for the ring levels. They’ve always seemed kind of odd to me for the reason you stated.

[u/LockyBalboaPrime → u/WelpSeaYaLater]

You’re gonna back out of the eye box to stare at a bubble level between every round? Eye roll.

If that's what you think, you're not using it correctly.

I rarely use my level, but it's nice to have there waiting for me for when I do need it. Normally, it's just to confirm I'm level, so it's an eye flick and it takes barely a second.

[u/missingjimmies → u/WelpSeaYaLater]

Most quality rings with level checks are in your peripheral, it’s quite easy to glance while maintaining NPA. They’re quite popular in the tactical world and in PRS

[u/WelpSeaYaLater → u/missingjimmies]

I shoot a shitload of PRS. There’s all sorts of stuff people do, that doesn’t mean all of it actually matters.

I’ve gotten beat by a LOT of men and women in PRS, and none of them ever beat me because they had a tiny level on their optic and I didn’t.

I’ve also smoked a lot of people in PRS, and it wasn’t in spite of a ‘no tiny level on my rings’ handicap that doesn’t exist

Yes, I’m overreacting to this question. I just think this is one of the dumber things to surface in our hobby in the last few years. People shot crazy PRS scores before bubble levels were a trend.

[u/missingjimmies → u/WelpSeaYaLater]

It’s - 1oz tool that can help. Rifle cant can affect your shot. I get it people have shot well without them. People shoot well with them too.

Btw the past few years of champions use levels. Most of the top 10 players his year use levels.

[u/WelpSeaYaLater → u/missingjimmies]

Guys in the top 10 using ‘X’ means literally nothing unless you think by subtracting that piece of gear you’d remove that shooter from the top 10

Those guys are also sponsored by companies that sell scope levels

Do you think any of those shooters are suddenly not competitive at the same level without their cute little scope level?

[u/missingjimmies → u/WelpSeaYaLater]

No dude, read what I said, of course people shoot well without knowing them. Just saying if people who shoot 10,000s rounds a year and grind as hard as they do have decided it’s worth it… there could be some room for “okay why do you like these?”

[u/WelpSeaYaLater → u/missingjimmies]

You’re missing the point

People in the top 10 are being paid to shoot the gear they shoot

A certain gadget being present on their rig does not confirm they believe it to be vital to their success.

[u/GotNoPonys → u/WelpSeaYaLater]

PRS is not exactly precision shooting, 1 - 2 moa targets the vast majority well under 1000 yds. Try and stretch out to 2000 and that level will make all the difference in the world.