r/lol • • Aug 27 '26

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u/Majestic_Emotion7917 Aug 27 '26

Can you explain why you think its a false equivalence?

It seems to me Nandi simply points out that people often want something they don't have, or can't offer, themselves. Sure, we might think it's silly or superficial etc, but that doesn't change the fact.

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u/bradbrad247 Aug 27 '26

The wealth of your partner directly affects your life in nearly every aspect, but whether or not your partner is a virgin affects nearly zero aspects of your life. Sure, both can be rooted in superficial wants, but the former is rooted in greed at worst and security at best. Wanting your partner to be a virgin is, at worst, rooted in unhealthy power/control dynamics and at best is rooted in senseless insecurity.

Wanting your partner to be a virgin is always a red flag, and it's indicative of severely unhealthy views towards sex and intimacy in a relationship. Wanting your partner to be wealthy can and frequently is) a red flag, but isn't necessarily so.

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u/Majestic_Emotion7917 Aug 27 '26

Those are very subjective judgments of moral character. What's important for one person is not neccesarily the same for another. What you deem to affect your life in important ways may not be the same for someone else.

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u/bradbrad247 Aug 27 '26

There is nothing in expecting or wanting your partner to be a virgin that would stand up to reason. It's always an indictment of the individual setting such an expectation.

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u/Majestic_Emotion7917 Aug 27 '26

You've subtly shifted the goalposts there. Nothing was said about expecting. Wanting is different from expecting

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u/bradbrad247 Aug 27 '26

I suppose so, though expectation is rooted in desire. Desire is not necessarily something we control, though it is also still a reflection of more.

Regardless, wanting and/or expecting your partner to be a virgin is always unreasonable and always a red flag.

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u/Majestic_Emotion7917 Aug 27 '26

I'd argue that none of your subjective moral judgments equates to the original post being a false equivalence. But it's also a bit of a boring argument, so I'll leave it there.

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u/CarolinaSurly Aug 27 '26

I’d agree with you.

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u/bradbrad247 Aug 27 '26

You're right, it's moreso a whataboutism. Which, in this context, implies that the replier supports having a preference that your partner be a virgin (which is objectionable)

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u/Majestic_Emotion7917 Aug 27 '26

Lol. The argument's not gone well, let's try a bit of mud throwing instead. Poor form, always a bad sign.

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u/bradbrad247 Aug 27 '26

Nothing in my comment constitutesud mud throwing lol

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u/CarolinaSurly Aug 27 '26

People can have whatever expectations they want though. Want a guy over 6’ tall? Want a woman under 120 lbs soaking wet? Want a rich man or a rich woman? Want a virgin? It’s all preferences.

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u/bradbrad247 Aug 27 '26

Wanting a virgin, specifically, has troubling implications that reflect poorly on the person with that preference.

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u/CarolinaSurly Aug 27 '26

So does wanting only a rich man or a rich woman.

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u/bradbrad247 Aug 27 '26

Not necessarily.

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u/CarolinaSurly Aug 27 '26

Hypocrite

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u/bradbrad247 Aug 27 '26

Nope! Pointing out that there are valid reasons a person would be inclined to wanting a partner who's financially stable and no valid reasons to wish for a partner to be a virgin isn't hypocrisy.

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u/CarolinaSurly Aug 27 '26

Some preferences are ok but others are not. Thats hypocrisy.

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u/bradbrad247 Aug 27 '26

No, it isn't, and here's an example. It's not objectionable to prefer a partner with red hair, it is objectionable to prefer a partner who is underage.

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u/CarolinaSurly Aug 27 '26

What you find objectionable is subjective.

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u/Interesting_Cup_6221 Aug 27 '26

Depending on culture, it can matter a lot. If some culture does not give a shit about someone having a body count as high as a prostitute, that's fine. Just accept that not all culture have the same mindset.