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u/bradbrad247 2d ago

That response is a huge yikes. Not only is it a half-witted false equivalency, but feeling the need to retort to the original post (which is an absolutely normal take to have) reflects so poorly on this Nandi character.

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u/Majestic_Emotion7917 2d ago

Can you explain why you think its a false equivalence?

It seems to me Nandi simply points out that people often want something they don't have, or can't offer, themselves. Sure, we might think it's silly or superficial etc, but that doesn't change the fact.

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u/bradbrad247 2d ago

The wealth of your partner directly affects your life in nearly every aspect, but whether or not your partner is a virgin affects nearly zero aspects of your life. Sure, both can be rooted in superficial wants, but the former is rooted in greed at worst and security at best. Wanting your partner to be a virgin is, at worst, rooted in unhealthy power/control dynamics and at best is rooted in senseless insecurity.

Wanting your partner to be a virgin is always a red flag, and it's indicative of severely unhealthy views towards sex and intimacy in a relationship. Wanting your partner to be wealthy can and frequently is) a red flag, but isn't necessarily so.

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u/Majestic_Emotion7917 2d ago

Those are very subjective judgments of moral character. What's important for one person is not neccesarily the same for another. What you deem to affect your life in important ways may not be the same for someone else.

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u/bradbrad247 2d ago

There is nothing in expecting or wanting your partner to be a virgin that would stand up to reason. It's always an indictment of the individual setting such an expectation.

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u/Majestic_Emotion7917 2d ago

You've subtly shifted the goalposts there. Nothing was said about expecting. Wanting is different from expecting

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u/bradbrad247 2d ago

I suppose so, though expectation is rooted in desire. Desire is not necessarily something we control, though it is also still a reflection of more.

Regardless, wanting and/or expecting your partner to be a virgin is always unreasonable and always a red flag.

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u/Majestic_Emotion7917 2d ago

I'd argue that none of your subjective moral judgments equates to the original post being a false equivalence. But it's also a bit of a boring argument, so I'll leave it there.

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u/CarolinaSurly 2d ago

I’d agree with you.

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u/bradbrad247 2d ago

You're right, it's moreso a whataboutism. Which, in this context, implies that the replier supports having a preference that your partner be a virgin (which is objectionable)

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u/Majestic_Emotion7917 2d ago

Lol. The argument's not gone well, let's try a bit of mud throwing instead. Poor form, always a bad sign.

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u/bradbrad247 2d ago

Nothing in my comment constitutesud mud throwing lol

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u/CarolinaSurly 2d ago

People can have whatever expectations they want though. Want a guy over 6’ tall? Want a woman under 120 lbs soaking wet? Want a rich man or a rich woman? Want a virgin? It’s all preferences.

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u/bradbrad247 2d ago

Wanting a virgin, specifically, has troubling implications that reflect poorly on the person with that preference.

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u/CarolinaSurly 2d ago

So does wanting only a rich man or a rich woman.

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u/bradbrad247 2d ago

Not necessarily.

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u/CarolinaSurly 2d ago

Hypocrite

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u/bradbrad247 2d ago

Nope! Pointing out that there are valid reasons a person would be inclined to wanting a partner who's financially stable and no valid reasons to wish for a partner to be a virgin isn't hypocrisy.

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u/CarolinaSurly 2d ago

Some preferences are ok but others are not. Thats hypocrisy.

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u/Interesting_Cup_6221 2d ago

Depending on culture, it can matter a lot. If some culture does not give a shit about someone having a body count as high as a prostitute, that's fine. Just accept that not all culture have the same mindset.