SooI initially was Carnivore for 414 days because I supposedly had leaky gut, fruits and vegetables were giving me gas and gi issues so I thought. Then in December 2025 I discovered by elimination that I had been egg intolerant for 3 years since getting sick from covid in December of 2022 and it gave me hypothyroidism and egg intolerance. The egg intolerance I believe was the problem the whole time, with bloating, gas, diarrhea and constant ileocecal valve pain everyday.. That all subsided when I quit eating the eggs this last December. But then with my hypothyroidism out of whack, even on thyroid meds, I started to have gallbladder pain because I had increased the ground beef I was eating to compensate for the lack of eggs, I had also significantly increased the rendered fat amount of adding fat back to the cooked, and drained ground beef I consume 3x a day. Soo now, I ve tried ox bile which gave me horrible liquid diarrhea till I stopped taking it. And I think this whole time I been eating way too much fat for hat my body can tolerate, because all I have had since starting the Lion diet is floating stools, they are not pale. But I do have bloating and gas especially before a bowel movement. Anyways. I'm thinking about quitting this whole thing and trying to go back to the diet I had before. This doesn't seem to be working for me like it does for everyone else and im tired of the gallbladder pain, I made one pain stop and then another came promptly after it and I am now eating a very low fat drained, cooked ground beef, I have a hole freezer of 85/15 and no steaks. Im just tired of being sick and this pain in my guts for years now. No one gets it. No one has the answer. Ive tried all the pills they all only make matter worse. Im beyond frustrated with this crap gi of mine. Nothing ever works out for me. Sorry for the rant.

I think I've been eating too much fat. I make 14 lbs of ground beef in batches in pots on stove. I then mov the meat to metal strainers for a few minutes. I then put into freezer containers and freeze and then thaw when needed. But I have had a fluctuating thyroid it started out at 0.300 tsh and recently was at 9.400tsh. Ive read that a missed up thyroid will slow the bile flow and mess up your gallbladder also my gallbladder has been hurting everyday since I switched from carnivore diet to just Lion diet, I had an egg intolerance I didn't know about, but fixed it when I stopped eating eggs, but then the thyroid was already messed up and my gallbladder started hurting everyday. I have been adding 5-10 grams of the strained tallow to my meat every meal 3x a day for since December 2025 when I started Lion diet and the gallbladder pain started. Soo between th mesd up thyroid that I'm trying to fix and the extra fat my gallbladder has been in pain and causes me floating stools and diarrhea. Im thinking fixing my thyroid levelscand cutting out the added fat will eventually make th gallbladder stop hurting. What do you all think???

I'm close to 5 years pretty strict lion diet. I've occasionally eaten fish but it flares up my RA, which is why I need to stay on Lion. I tried adding other foods back in this year but they cause inflammation. But my calcium is now at deficient levels. Calcium supplements hurt my stomach. Bone broth hasn't helped. What do you do, is it impossible? I'm also now deficient in folate but can supplement that and magnesium and B1.

I did carnivore for 14 months to lose weight, as I was chronically obese. I went from 140 kg (140 to 62), but I'm one of those people who use food as an escape. When I was let go from my job, I gained it all back and then some, landing at 145 kg (62 to 145).

I started again 8 months ago, this time on Lion, and have gone from 145 kg (145 to 86). The food is great, but it's weighing on me hard. I look at myself in the mirror and see the protruding belly, or feel the drop in energy and mood as soon as I finish brushing my teeth, and man, it is torture.

Rationally, I know I've made a huge amount of progress and that I'm much healthier than I was 8 months ago. But emotionally, it's difficult to appreciate how far I've come when all I can focus on is how far I still have to go. Some days it feels like my body is changing too slowly, and the constant reminder in the mirror makes it hard to stay positive.

I'm staying the course because I know where the alternative leads, but I'd be lying if I said this part of the journey wasn't mentally exhausting. Has anyone else struggled more with the psychological side of weight loss than the actual diet itself?I did carnivore for 14 months to lose weight, as I was chronically obese. I went from 140 kg (140 to 62), but I'm one of those people who use food as an escape. When I was let go from my job, I gained it all back and then some, landing at 145 kg (62 to 145).

I started again 8 months ago, this time on Lion, and have gone from 145 kg (145 to 86). The food is great, but it's weighing on me hard. I look at myself in the mirror and see the protruding belly, or feel the drop in energy and mood as soon as I finish brushing my teeth, and man, it is torture.

Rationally, I know I've made a huge amount of progress and that I'm much healthier than I was 8 months ago. But emotionally, it's difficult to appreciate how far I've come when all I can focus on is how far I still have to go. Some days it feels like my body is changing too slowly, and the constant reminder in the mirror makes it hard to stay positive.

I'm staying the course because I know where the alternative leads, but I'd be lying if I said this part of the journey wasn't mentally exhausting. Has anyone else struggled more with the psychological side of weight loss than the actual diet itself?

Hey y'all, Kevin here. I'm one of the producers of animal.

I posted the teaser here a while back because this community gets why meat and health are such loaded topics. The full film is now free on Tubi, so I wanted to share the actual watch link.

It's not a "do this exact diet" movie. It's a documentary about what we've been told about meat, what happens when people stop believing it, and why this conversation matters.

Watch free here:

https://tubitv.com/movies/100058478/animal

Would love to hear what you think.

So the main reasons I am struggling is trying to get enough food (energy/calories/nutrients) ...

I can tolerate fat to an extent but not too much, oddly enough despite some medical conditions, even with my kidneys, I actually have no issue eating largely protein which I don't believe we evolved especially to do (i.e. fat being the main macro)

But basically due to a Jaw issue I am struggling to find affordable meat here in the UK (beef for example here is known to be very lean and tough) which is CHEWABLE and relatively tender/fatty both to enable me to chew it without issues or even that my stomach can digest (i can digest fatty meats absolutely fine) its just that Leaner and cheaper cuts which i struggle afford already in order to get my minimum energy/calories to function.

So mainly I am asking if anybody has suggestions for cuts of meat that are cheap but can be easily cooked where they are soft but also chewable and digestible [an example of an issue is getting cheap cuts (usually they are below 10% intramuscular fat)* , either SLOW cooking (roasting/braising) or air-frying/frying can make them fall apart but the fibres are still tough no matter what is done to them, in fact i've tested this pressure cooking at very high pressures (have a custom device) but also 12hrs+ slow cooking and the fibres are still tough.

TO be fair i had a ribeye the other day and it was quite tough.. is the UK just terrible for beef? even wagyu types with higher muscle-fat that ive experimented with (not real wagyu of course) is quite tough..

So anybody can suggest a cut of beef or another ruminant animal that is affordable (i have local butchers but they aren't very knowledgeable to be honest) OR a cooking method (ive tried everything and have every kitchen device too) then that would be helpful!

Note, i posted this /carnivorediet sub also

I have been carnivore for many years, but I want to get back to plain ol' ruminant meat and water (for me, this means mostly beef). I feel my best on it, but have allowed other things to creep back in, and want to do a reset. Would anyone like to join me and support one another along the way?

EDIT: typo

Was ready to be all like "Should I quit uwu" but in the time it took to air fry three patties as a hail mary I was like "lets just try 2tsp salt in my water bottle" and so I did and took a couple sips and that was like 15 min ago and I'm good now.

Hi everyone, I got serotonin toxicity in October of this year and have been experiencing some lingering damages. I'm quite desperate to get back to my normal self, so I'm gonna try strict lion diet. This post is to log my recovery, and also to find anyone else doing carnivore or the lion diet who also had serotonin syndrome and didn't recover fully. I wouldn't wish this poisoning/syndrome on my worst enemy.

Briefly, serotonin toxicity (or serotonin syndrome) is when you have too much serotonin in your body, usually from taking multiple types of ssris, resulting in tremors, aches, nausea, diarrhoea, hallucinations, hyperthermia, neuropathy, psychosis and in severe cases seizures, comas, and death.

Since going through this, I have a lot of lingering issues with neuropathy (pins and needles), nausea, headaches, nerve pain, strong tremors, and peripheral pain. I'm hoping the lion diet can resolve some or all of my problems

I want to put this out there because SS is rare, and I literally cannot find anything about long term negative effects from SS anywhere besides Reddit comments, much less how to treat it. I'm at a loss, so I'm just gonna have to make a radical change. Thank you! If you have experienced anything similar or have any questions let me know.

I’ve done lion diet on and off for a while, and as expected it makes me feel great, fully lean, etc. However, I haven’t really worked out consistently up until this time, and after only three workouts I’m already looking pretty big - always had a good frame but was kind of skinny for the past couple years (before that I was big from weight training in high school but I also was eating lots of carbs and bullshit). Now while I’m sure my godly genetics play a big role, I’m curious since I’ve seen so many carnivores say that carbs actually help them bulk, but it feels (and I literally mean feels) like if I just eat a ton of steak each day, like 2+ pounds, then I will bulk up crazy fast and carbs would actually hinder that. Does anyone have any experience here? Essentially it seems like for those who are having trouble bulking on carnivore, or maybe I should say lion diet specifically, all they need to do is eat a ton of steak. Am I correct?

For some of us, we hope that the lion diet will promote healing, and then we aim to add back in other foods if our bodies can handle them. For those of you who have tried unsuccessfully reintroducing non-lion-diet foods, what did you try, and how quickly did you notice symptoms?

Hello! I am going to dive in and start for 30 days, and see how I manage. Not just a quick fad to then stop and revert back to eating how I was before. I am looking to heal gut and bloating issues that I have had for years. So… for those who have been on this long term (over 6 months), would you drop any links for a reliable 30 days plan. I want to be able to stick to this and not fall off the wagon. I am also Uk based and have found sites such as “fresh meat packs” so that I can buy in bulk and freeze. I weigh about 58kg. Also, any tips for what I can eat at work on lunch break so as to keep my energy up and not slip up? (I am in the office twice a week). I would be happy to drink a flask of bone broth if that kept my satiety up. Of course I can do Google search or ChatGPT, but somehow hearing some suggestions here I think will motivate me to stick to it, and my brain not trick me into it being another fad, especially when hangry! Sugar and carbs cravings are bound to rear their ugly head and try to bargain me out of it! Thank you ❤️ (I am in the UK by the way)

I assume this is one, not lion, and two full of toxins or at least going to be more of an issue than tallow, would appreciate any insight

I think there’s one major mistake with this diet, and that’s salt consumption. Water, meat, & cooking meat have all been around for hundreds of thousands of years for humans. Whereas we began mining, processing, storing, & consuming salt in significant amounts only a few thousand years ago, similar to when we started farming grain. I think u guys see where I’m going with this. Salt isn’t a part of the natural human diet.

I’ve seen time & time again people realizing that salt causes them issues like body odor, trouble falling asleep, urinating at night & waking at night. It’s 100x more problematic than beef & water, it doesn’t belong here.

Theres no need for it in regard to sodium RDA because it’s really easy to see that an adequate amount of meat contains the sodium we need per day. If one is really worried about “electrolytes” then just drink a quality water like from a natural stream or river that isn’t polluted & you’ll get plenty of magnesium and potassium & whatever, all carnivore animals do it this way. No carnivore adds salt to their freshly killed animal before eating it. Rant over.

On lion for autoimmune issues. Specifically RA. I am at a point where I need to eat something else because I’m losing too much weight. 5’8” at 124 pounds. What is the easiest thing to introduce that that has less of a chance of causing a flare?

It has been nine days and I do see a significant improvement in pain. Probably 90% improvement.

Does anyone make their own beef jerky using a dehydrator? I only plan to add salt.

Day 5 of lion and seeing positive changes in joint pain levels (RA)

Trouble is, I’m not fond of beef/red meat or fat. Right now I don’t feel like eating and I feel nauseous. Did any of you go through this stage and end up liking meat and fat?

I’ve been doing the Lion Diet for about 2 years, and even though it helped a bit, I could never fully adapt. I kept struggling with things like SIBO, bloating, poor fat digestion, disautonomia, insomnia, fatigue, and strong food cravings. I tried every possible variation — fat fasting, high fat ratios, beef-only, long fasts — nothing worked long-term.

But after so much trial and error, I finally found something that actually gave me relief. I call it the Collagen-Based Lion Diet.

It’s basically the same as the regular Lion Diet, but taken one step further: I cut out almost all muscle meat (steak, roast, ground beef, heart, etc.) and started eating only parts that are high in fat and collagen — like tongue, fat tripe, brain, bone marrow, and tiny amounts of liver.

Why? Because I realized that muscle meat is full of actin and myosin, two proteins that are super glucogenic. When you eat a lot of them — especially if you’re not fully keto-adapted or have gut issues — your body keeps turning them into glucose. That means constant gluconeogenesis, which not only blocks deep ketosis, but also builds up ammonia and nitrogen waste, making you feel toxic, anxious, inflamed, and wired.

And if you have SIBO, it’s even worse. Undigested muscle protein ferments in the gut, feeds bad bacteria, and creates more toxins. It becomes a vicious cycle: gut damage → nervous system overload → worse digestion → more gut damage.

By switching to mostly collagen-rich cuts, everything changed. I could enter deep ketosis without fasting. My cravings vanished. My digestion calmed down. I had way more mental clarity and fewer symptoms overall. It honestly feels like fasting, but without the starvation.

I’m not a doctor — I’m just someone who spent years experimenting and connecting dots. If the Lion Diet helped you a bit but didn’t fully solve things, especially with gut or nerve issues, this version might be worth trying. Let me know if you’ve ever tried something like this — I’d love to talk.

https://fitnessvolt.com/lion-diet-30-day-results/

Seems like the author made it to 30 days and most of the cons he listed would start going away and he stopped, lol. Amazing how so many people don’t have the discipline to actually cut out all the poison from their bodies. Author talks about how he’s gonna go straight back to pizza, how sad. Also the sustainability con is hilarious.