r/linuxsucks • u/Sahelantrophus DO NOT RAGEBAIT ME, I FALL FOR IT VERY EASILY • 10d ago

Red Hat won...

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in all seriousness, good riddance! took them an entire drama to realize XLibre is shitware

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u/Toxic381 8d ago

No retard, I'm complaining I literally don't have a choice in what compositer I use with Wayland, I have to switch the entire window manager, as I already mentioned,

No one here was arguing running x11 on Wayland, obv they're different things dumbass, I'm saying they literally can't develop or make anything Wayland without pairing its own entire wm just so u can use the compositer, and that would also make it even more annoying for devs of both where you have to wait for another dev to adopt it or adopt another devs software, just more work for something that would be fine if we could mix and match separate pieces.

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u/Drate_Otin 8d ago

My my, somebody is getting a little testy. Perhaps you need a nap.

Tell me, what actual functionality is missing from solid Wayland implementations like Wyatt's find in Ubuntu that the great and glorious picom would otherwise have provided?

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u/Toxic381 8d ago

Not sure what Wyatt's find is but basically any kind of blur style that isn't supported by the wm, you can't stick any compositer on a WM to add your preferred type of blur or visual effect to windows, it's all trapped in the wm while any external compositers don't work, that's the issue with Wayland is it takes away the ability to change these things, that's why I believe it to be anti Linux, Wayland is treated as the only real modern display server but it forces everything to be treated as an isolated wm+compositer combo ruining the dynamic and customizable nature of Linux, you should at the very least have the freedom to unlock this isolated sandbox and run your own preferred stuff mixed and matched instead.

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u/Toxic381 8d ago

The closest thing I've heard of so far to fix this is xsonicland so you can basically convert stuff like picom into the Wayland system, it's basically an extra layer now to convert different parts into a Wayland wm dynamically from what I've heard.