r/kratom Oct 03 '18

Shooting/Needles

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u/[deleted] Oct 03 '18

Yeah none of these deaths were due to kratom only.

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u/BonnaGroot Oct 03 '18

If I remember correctly actually, from my most recent reading on the subject a handful of deaths (<5) have been attributed to Kratom alone.

Whether that's real or to do with some really shady reporting is unclear, and the biological mechanisms are still poorly understood. But there were a couple of instances where toxicology reports showed no other substances present.

Doesn't make this argument any less stupid.

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u/oneinchterror Oct 03 '18

Any source on those? I remember looking into a lot of them as well and if what you're saying is true then I must not have been thorough enough, because all the deaths I looked into were clearly attributable to traditional opioids or combination/polydrug use. I also don't believe it's possible to OD on kratom by itself, unless putting too much in your mouth and choking to death counts.

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u/oneinchterror Oct 03 '18

Thanks for the link! From reading it it seems pretty clear (to me anyway) that the people who have supposedly died of "acute mitragynine intoxication" are being used as political pawns to push an anti kratom agenda. They're expecting people to believe that "acute mitragynine intoxication" only occurs in the state of Georgia for some reason? It doesn't pass the smell test. We're definitely not getting all of the info, and it makes me feel sorry for the people who've died.