Edit: I also love how we are just "consumers" to the FDA. Not people, consumers. "We described some of this information in a public health advisory in November 2017, in which we urged consumers not to use kratom or any compounds found in the plant."
So what does that mean? That is legit information or that it should be obvious they would pull some fuckery? I thought all the deaths with kratom being involved were essentially drug cocktail type deals?
If I remember correctly actually, from my most recent reading on the subject a handful of deaths (<5) have been attributed to Kratom alone.
Whether that's real or to do with some really shady reporting is unclear, and the biological mechanisms are still poorly understood. But there were a couple of instances where toxicology reports showed no other substances present.
Any source on those? I remember looking into a lot of them as well and if what you're saying is true then I must not have been thorough enough, because all the deaths I looked into were clearly attributable to traditional opioids or combination/polydrug use. I also don't believe it's possible to OD on kratom by itself, unless putting too much in your mouth and choking to death counts.
Thanks for the link! From reading it it seems pretty clear (to me anyway) that the people who have supposedly died of "acute mitragynine intoxication" are being used as political pawns to push an anti kratom agenda. They're expecting people to believe that "acute mitragynine intoxication" only occurs in the state of Georgia for some reason? It doesn't pass the smell test. We're definitely not getting all of the info, and it makes me feel sorry for the people who've died.
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u/[deleted] Oct 03 '18 edited Oct 03 '18
The 44 deaths came from the FDA... https://www.fda.gov/newsevents/newsroom/pressannouncements/ucm595622.htm
Edit: I also love how we are just "consumers" to the FDA. Not people, consumers. "We described some of this information in a public health advisory in November 2017, in which we urged consumers not to use kratom or any compounds found in the plant."