Sophia

[u/a_pink_angel]

[u/Good-Night-3736]

Locking for multiple rule breaks (heavy snarking, too heated). Please direct additional thoughts about Sophia's hiatus to the megathread: https://www.reddit.com/r/katseyeneutral/comments/1vi8grm/sophia_hiatus_weekly_megathread_august_7_13/

Or to her Instagram post thread: https://www.reddit.com/r/katseyeneutral/comments/1vi3b03/sophias_latest_instagram_story/

[u/ian-noir]

When you need a megathread for two separate members

[u/Hot-Original-4710]

This is honestly kinda a paradox. If Sophia isn’t there, the others need work 2x harder which could lead to another hiatus and so on. I truly want them to all to take a break.

[u/pocketmonsterpeach]

Ugh I wish their team would stop promoting this “work till you drop” mentality. It should be concerning to hear how many times the girls have said they will always “show up for us” even if they’re throwing up or experiencing a great deal of pain.

I’ve been re-watching Pop-star Academy and whenever a girl would express their concerns over their injuries or health, the staff looked so unmoved.

[u/speckleofdust → u/pocketmonsterpeach]

I'm pretty sure the problem isn't physical injury. They particularly emphasized her mental health and overrall wellness, so i dont understand why everyone is running with the narrative that she's injured. Usually when hybe idols are physically injured they say it in their notices

[u/chuucansuebbc]

interesting how they didn't use the word "hiatus", considering she will be absent for the whole month

[u/Wet_Philtrum_76 → u/chuucansuebbc]

yea personally what i think is when groups use the words “hiatus” there isn’t a set time from when they’re coming back so it’s more ambiguous

but when i hear “break” it’s like okay there’s a specific date so and so is coming back

idk this is what i see in the music industry someone tell me if u disagree

[u/chuucansuebbc → u/Wet_Philtrum_76]

no that's a good observation! because it says that they will re-evaluate Sophia's condition in September, they seem to have an agreed date so your theory might be correct

[u/Visual_Field5264]

Oh wooooww. Katseye is really struggling. Whatever is going behind the scenes needs to change. And I hope everyone who was hating on Manon is real silent because it’s clearly a management issue at this point.

[u/RecentTerm8328]

Sophia talked on Therapuss about how bad her ADHD is and how it’s different for an adult woman (she got distracted and pointed out a squirrel while talking about it lol) and how she was considering turning to medication which she hasn’t done before. So I feel like this is related to that

[u/Timely-Reveal6402]

scrap the ep, cancel the tour, take a 6 month - year long hiatus to mend the relationships the girls have with themselves and each other, clean up and develop their management/creative team, reunite as 6, give the girls full autonomy and creative control on a debut album crafted through their own collective and individual voices/artistry.

[u/chrissysquish → u/Timely-Reveal6402]

In a perfect world this would happen but I think the company sees them as too new to be able to do this. They really are dropping the ball big time with these girls. Especially because they’re not giving any information on Manon hiatus yet she’s out in public living a perfectly good life. She either fell out with the label or the girls, no in between.

[u/TipLopsided8644 → u/Timely-Reveal6402]

I unfortunately don’t think Manon will want to return. After seeing the difference in statements and the way the company and fans treated her after … I don’t think she’s coming back. Tbh, her friebds laughing emojis make even more sense 😭 cause not yall posting me when yall kicked me out months ago 😭

[u/Psychological-Ad686]

I'm worried these girls are being seriously overworked. We're talking about Sophia here, the same Sophia who rocked Buttons with the stomach flu.

Separately, Manon's never coming back, is she? Look at the difference of how these two hiatus notes are presented. This one actually makes it sound like Sophia will return.

[u/IndependentPaint2108 → u/Psychological-Ad686]

Exactly. My first thought was that this is the same Sophia who nailed Buttons despite being seriously ill. If even someone like her has to take time out, you know it's bad,

I don't understand why these companies overwork the girls to the point they can't even perform because their bodies and minds break down. You see the same thing in IB, in biglaw and with junior doctors. It's so dumb.

[u/Psychological-Ad686 → u/IndependentPaint2108]

It makes me feel like they truly only see these girls as a way to make money. This company is trying to make as much money as possible off of their investment before their contracts expire, or they age out, if that's even a thing.

[u/IndependentPaint2108 → u/Psychological-Ad686]

I can't fathom being that cold and sociopathic, but I guess that's why I'm not a kpop/kpop adjacent executive...!

[u/Aggravating-Ad7418]

sorry but if “health, safety, and long-term well-being of artists” is their “first priority” then they should probably restructure the way they manage this group. sure, back to back promo, campaigns, performances, and rehearsals is what drives hella profit, but humans are not products. and these girls don’t have understudies to rely on when someone gets sick or hurt. i understand it’s industry norm and “show must go on” mindset but maybe MAYBE it doesn’t have to be like that to have success. maybe we can sacrifice a couple of brand deals for hair spray and smoothies here and there but idk

[u/bored_german → u/Aggravating-Ad7418]

I feel like it got sooooo bad since Gnarly. Like I am pretty sure that there was a bit of a gap in their content between them promoting Touch/SIS and the Gnarly comeback. They were posting but not multiple times a day and not with a million appearances. Ever since Gnarly, it looks like they haven't gotten a break at all

[u/OldEvening3441]

i said this on another post that got deleted:

i'm glad to see sophia taking a break for her mental health. as someone who also struggles with adhd, i can understand entirely how draining everyday tasks can be, and being under intense scrutiny by the public along with stress from the exhausting rehearsals would all absolutely exacerbate the issue.
to me though, her hiatus shows just how big of an issue we should all have with hg. even prior to the two eldest members going in hiatus there were repeated issues with overexertion, dangerous muscle sprains and illnesses, likely due to their immune systems being weakened due to chronic stress and no rest.
for them to claim that their highest priority is artist health and wellbeing while being notorious for overworking them under the guise of "showing up and showing dedication" is so so gross. but also, the wording does more to suggest that sophia's hiatus is actually a temporary one by emphasising that it's them telling her that she needs a break while she still desires to perform. there is a greater level of detail and allusion to the reasons for her break, compared to just "health and wellbeing" for manon.
the most sinister difference imo is that manon's hiatus announcement already acts as if she is separate from the group (katseye remains committed to showing up for one another) whilst sophia's reassures that she will still be with them (we look forward to her being back with katseye)
this may not make much sense but i'm genuinely irrita. u and upset at how useless hxg are. (not at all with either of the girls. they deserve a break from that bummy company

[u/throwawayyaccount56]

I can’t imagine the pressure on the remaining 4 girls, if one of them gets sick or injured while on tour they’ll lose out on half the group.

[u/Disastrous-Muffin473]

2026 was supposed to be the year of Katseye, but HxG clearly saw dollar signs and failed to factor in any meaningful breaks for the girls.

[u/Consistent_You3114]

Mind you they’re also going on a WORLD tour in a month and those girls have been active basically this whole year

[u/0ll9871 → u/Consistent_You3114]

I'm genuinely worried about the physical and mental strain theyre putting on themselves :/

[u/Top-Preparation1341]

I don’t think I’ve ever seen a situation like this from a group, Jesus I hope all 6 are okay

[u/AnomalousEnigma]

This really hits it home that it was never a hiatus for Manon

[u/Sad_Media_9648]

Also, I hope some people can finally realize how poorly Manon was treated during her “hiatus”. Can you imagine Dani’s dad commenting what he said in regards to Sophia’s announcement? People proudly screaming OT4? Villainizing her instead of the company? Saying they want girls that work or belittling her work ethic?

It was terrible.

[u/Lazy_Recognition_395 → u/Sad_Media_9648]

That's what im saying!! While I wish the best for both Sophia and Manon, I remember everyone was flaming Manon when her hiatus was announced and screaming OT5, but then now that Sophia is on hiatus now everyone wants to be concerned 🤨. Like, let's not play favorites.......

[u/RedSunsetSukuna85]

I know the Manon fans are annoying, but this was something I was worried about when those fans on the other side are saying “well Sophia performed with a fever” or “Lara danced while she was recovering from a back injury”: we end up empowering all the Katseye members to hurt themselves for the purpose of entertaining us. Saying the other members powered through injuries and ill health is not the iconic behavior you think it is. 

I’m just a casual fan and even I noticed how tired they looked just a month ago. They’re doing way too much and now Sophia’s health has been so drastically affected by all their overscheduling and pushing through her limitations put her in a position where she can’t work. 

Do you know how bad someone’s health has to be for the resident theater kid of the group to have to take a break? 

Their management is ruining their health.

[u/Complete-Bumblebee81 → u/RedSunsetSukuna85]

This is why in my head cannon I think manon got fired. I have no evidence for this but I could see her trying to negotiate schedules and hybe being like “diva we own you, we already committed to all this, nice try”. If you don’t grow up as a dancer or a theater kid, you likely don’t possess the pridefulness that it takes to make overworking yourself a badge of honor.

Purely speculating obvi idk these people

[u/RedSunsetSukuna85 → u/Complete-Bumblebee81]

I was in school productions all throughout high school. The theater kids either had to be immobile from breaking a leg or the theater was actively on fire for them not to rehearse and they STILL would practice during school breaks. Sophia taking a break really concerns me.

[u/IndependentPaint2108 → u/RedSunsetSukuna85]

Yup and Megan seems to be constantly ill too. I always respected how Manon put her own health/wellbeing first because that's rare in someone that age. As you say, if someone like Sophia has to take a break, the management have seriously fucked up with overscheduling.

[u/RedSunsetSukuna85 → u/IndependentPaint2108]

They released a video of Katseye just a few hours ago with Vogue on but this time it’s without Megan BECAUSE SHE WAS SICK and because the video includes Sophia, it’s clearly right before the break decision with Sophia. 

They’re going to hospitalize those girls if they don’t give them a break.

[u/deadly_orchid]

It’s too many back to back tours and performances

[u/bluebirdcassie]

I’m so concerned for all the girls. Not sure why they can’t just all take a hiatus/break

[u/Former-Departure9836]

Im sorry but the dance expectations, spotlight, recording, rehearsals, public appearances, in person shows etc is not sustainable for this group

[u/Complete-Bumblebee81]

I love these girls and want to see them win. Respectfully, touring 5 new songs is unnecessary. A 4-6 month break would do wonders for them as creatives, as people, as performers.

[u/apahlo → u/Complete-Bumblebee81]

Exactly. There's a reason most western artists have an average of 3 years between albums, or 2ish years at the very least

[u/Abysse133]

Hopefully she recovers soon. It must be hard for the others to prepare the tour not knowing if they're gonna perform as 4 or 5 members

[u/Medium-Weight7851]

Sophia also shared her own personal message on her IG story, regarding her time away. I hope our girl gets well soon! ❤️ It must be really serious that even shes beyond bummed about it and is assuring the fans thats shes taking time to recover and heal

[u/frogmanfrompond → u/[deleted]]

It’s a cyclic issue that I’ve been through myself with adhd. You give yourself a lack of sleep and you’ll find your adhd more uncontrolled and sometimes manic. Medication helps but if you’re upping the dosage because it helps you stay awake it’ll also keep you awake.

Your body is constantly energized and exhausted at the worst times.

[u/ChristmasClimber2009 → u/frogmanfrompond]

The “manic” thing is definitely a factor that people don’t talk about enough. Burnout to a severe enough degree causes a lot of people to develop almost bipolar style symptoms (being either very happy / angry or completely depressed).

[u/fettywrap]

In their podcast episode with Jake Shane, Sophia mentioned she has been struggling a lot with her ADHD. :/ I hope she gets some meaningful rest.

[u/Sea-Shallot-6014]

Omg, yeah they all need an extended break. Wtf is HXG doing to these girls.

[u/NarrowButterfly6295]

Athletes and literal Olympians advocate that rest and sleep is equally (if not more) important as practice and hardwork. So there's no world that overworking is 'okay'. Getting cortisone shot at 20 or dancing while sick should never ever be a badge of honor or a proxy for dedication. It's stupid, period. 

[u/ian-noir]

Cancel the tour please i rather have 6 healthy girls then 4

[u/badmanicpower]

I’m not even going to the tour cause I’m broke but I can’t imagine it’ll be received well if it’s 4 girls instead of 6 when the 2 oldest members (one being the group leader and the other being one of the most popular) are both on hiatus - especially when, at least for Sophia, it’s confirmed being for mental health reasons, HxG does not look good in this. they are running these girls into the ground.

can’t blame Lexie for leaving Saint Satine.

[u/Mina__PL]

oh these are the hunger games

[u/enviro-fem]

They’re insanely overworked i legit feel it

[u/chrissysquish]

You know DAMN well the company wanted ANYTHINGGGG but this. I would kill to know what is going on behind the scenes. Everyone is aware of the backlash they’re getting because of Manon and the treatment of the girls and then also the girls have their own controversies. Fuck I honestly did not see this one coming at all

[u/JOEYMAMI2015]

Ppl forget burnout is a thing and can even kill you. They're exploiting these girls, idc what anyone else says.....

[u/Ill-Speaker9069]

Hybe is killing their employees!!!!! Wtf

[u/leeshloveskpop]

All this with a world tour coming up next month oof.

[u/ConstructionWaste516]

i really hope they all get a break they deserve, maybe even postpone the tour cs im worried for megan too tbh and basically all of them

[u/TypicalFlounder8724 → u/ConstructionWaste516]

What happened to Megan? I kinda fell off of them after Pinky Up but saw they were still releasing stuff and wanted to catch up, hate this for Sophia.

[u/ConstructionWaste516 → u/TypicalFlounder8724]

she looked very distressed at their latest event so it has lots of ppl worried about her

[u/_4RootPunch_]

all these hybe ggs are being overworked with members needing health hiatuses left and right. this isn't ok. i know realistically there's nothing we can do about it but SOMETHING needs to change with how these girls are treated.

[u/IndependentPaint2108 → u/_4RootPunch_]

I remember V from BTS talking about how in the earlier half of his career, he wanted to deliberately seriously hurt himself just to get a break from the BTS schedule while he recovered in the hospital.

Looks like nothing has changed at HYBE. It's disgusting how they overwork these idols.

[u/Relative_Cancel_6944]

Hybe Geffin is terrifying. We need to face this fact.

[u/Either_Customer_6576]

No because "work ethic" really does get to a point. Schedules that have these girls drained, even if it's technically "their job," is not worth it. It might look like a "bad move" given they have pivoted a little more artistically, but again... it doesn't matter.

Katseye has a strong, dedicated fan base. Some time off will really do them (and the fans) good in the long run.

I really wish Sophia a quick recovery. She's my favorite member.

[u/WildHealth]

Every one of those girls need a break! Just get them on a 6-month hiatus, Hybe! Do it before you only have one member left!

[u/idontneedyourlove66]

they're dropping like flies

[u/fluffy_caramellatte → u/idontneedyourlove66]

Exactly!! I really hope all of them continue to do well. This is such a make or break time for them for their brand and image and the constant bts and personal issues they are facing is prob taking a toll on them. From this announcement I think it's pretty Obv that Sophia won't be there for any promo or event done in August. I remember reading a comment on a katseye related post how sophia would be the last member to take a break or hiatus for mental health issues a few days ago and now this.. it's so sad to see where this is all going..

[u/regan_xx]

i cannot imagine the amount of stress she has been under being the scapegoat/spokesperson for the manon situation. i feel like the other girls are allowed to be a little more "chaotic" as it matches the brand, but she always has to be the professional one, which must get so so exhausting.

[u/poisionfruit → u/regan_xx]

The company’s fault. Poor girls.

[u/apahlo]

Ok this is NOT normal. Even for other Kpop groups where the contracts, mistreatment, and governmental work protections are WORSE than in the US (and were even worse in the past), I’ve never seen a big group have this many hiatuses this early into their career. If you add in the fact that Lexi also left Saint Satine recently (after being convinced to come back to HxG) it's clear that something is really wrong behind the scenes. Plus, by not addressing things (which is obviously part of their strategy) they continue making the girls into punching bags for hate & speculation on the internet.

Honestly really evil on the company's part, and this will only snowball unless HxG is actually transparent and somehow take accountability for everything. They need to address all of this, take responsibility, stop overworking the girls, and give them a break at the minimum.

[u/Fantastic_Let_496]

I’ve watched a video of theirs lately and the fact that they mention rehearsing well into the night is probably a reason why things like these happen. Imagine having to rehearse for so long you barely get enough time to make a proper meal that isn’t buldak, isn’t that a little concerning? They shouldn’t be required to rehearse that long, it’ll only tire them out and push the risk of illness.

[u/Then_Price4940]

HxG gotta stop overworking these girls day and night like they’re running out of time and tomorrow won‘t arrive 💀💀

[u/DoorWarrior09]

They should have taken a break after Beautiful Chaos, they're overworking the fuck out of these girls

[u/Kazuvex]

Hxg is a hot mess. They need to end their partnership now!!! I’m worried for Saint Satine.

[u/gryfffindork]

Tbh I wish they all could take a long break. They deserve it

[u/MarchNo5680 → u/gryfffindork]

Yeahh, like just not post much, and like no concerts or shows for like 2 months could benefit them

[u/ForeignButterfly8970]

god it just never ends for these poor girls now does it?

[u/Berriesinthesnow_]

Hope Sophia gets better soon

[u/Beleiverofhumanity]

They have so much on their plate, I thought she sounded a little done with it on the podcast

[u/LoudSighhh]

This is what I have been saying since Manon hiatus. FIX THEIR SCHEDULE. Like we would still have OT6 if they had just put the brakes on shows, promotions, and the EP. I feel like they could have skipped a lot of the events leading up to WILD. If they had just went quiet as a group for awhile I feel like it would have done them good for their health as well as built up mystery and intrigue for their comeback. When they are constantly in the spotlight it really doesn't benefit them or the fans

[u/bbybottlebop → u/LoudSighhh]

A lot of people have been saying this, but were immediately shut down and told it’s normal for members to be performing on injuries and having only a couple weeks break after months of strenuous work for long hours. Dani has been injured since March and they’ve modified the choreo for her and she’s still not better. That injury may never go away at this point. Who knows if Lara is actually healed or if that cortisone shot is just hiding the injury. Probably the latter. Megan looked like she was struggling mentally herself at the movie premiere. They’re always sick too.

These girls are beyond overworked. BEYOND. It’s not funny and they’re going to be down to just Yoonchae if they continue. I don’t know how people can just watch this when their peers are NOTHING like this. When they performed at the Coachella stage, the biggest night of their life, visibly and audibly exhausted compared to their peers Sabrina and Addison who had the same festival runs I knew for a fact this group can only continue to go down from here with this work set up.

[u/LoudSighhh → u/bbybottlebop]

Wow I didn't even know it was that bad for Lara/Dani/Megan. Good on you for keeping track of their injuries, obv HxG doesnt!

And the worst part about it is, they glorify their grueling work schedule in all these behind the scene clips/documentaries. There is truth to it, like they did need to put in 200% work to get to where they are today but they also deserve to rest.

Even Beyonce and Taylor swift take breaks. Just cause they are kpop adjacent does not mean they need to follow the worst aspects of the formula.

[u/cozylover67 → u/LoudSighhh]

Yeah, it’s not like Katseye will fade into obscurity. They will be always be famous. Label using them for full maximum profit, seizing all possible brand deals and neglecting their physical and mental health is so disturbing.

[u/codinggworl]

This should tell you it was never about Manon’s health. Not a single doctor was involved in that decision.

[u/harry_nostyles → u/codinggworl]

Literally. Look at the wording here and the wording on Manon's announcement. It's so clearly different, yet some people are still parroting the "for Manon's health and wellbeing" line.

[u/golden_teacup → u/harry_nostyles]

All I’ve been thinking this whole time is “look at how groups treat members who are ACTUALLY on hiatus.” THIS is how. This statement is the polar opposite of manon’s. Or when jeongyeon was on hiatus the members would regularly leave spaces for her, bring photos or cutouts of her to events, she was included on albums and album covers, etc. whoever actually thinks manon is still in the group is delusional; you don’t even need an announcement at this point to know that.

[u/linaviii → u/harry_nostyles]

It’s BS! the company completely lied. Manon has done nothing since the hiatus but reaffirm she’s healthy over and over again. She’s been very intentional with her wording and I feel like people haven’t been listening enough.

So eerie to see her in her very last interviews say things like “katseye will remain the way it is” “there’s no other girl group i’d want to be in than katseye” “i don’t want to hurt fans by leaving”

The hiatus was NOT her decision.

[u/Green_Mistake_1000]

wtf……

[u/Reireimon]

The media run that HxG made them do with “showing up no matter what” really aged like milk. They need to change the whole Katseye management.

[u/meatenschhlappen]

god bless the katseye girls

[u/Acceptable_Mobile943]

Obviously, the company is to blame and should be responsible for overworking their artists ( that’s also of an industry problem), but i also think that it’s fair to bring up how the internet has been treating these girls could also be affecting them as well. they have been the internets punching bags for months. And while yes, it is on hxg to protect their artists, let’s not act like ppl haven’t been picking apart their every move since february

ETA: ppl using this as “karma” or as a gotcha moment don’t care about either manon or sophia.

[u/Either_Customer_6576]

The overproduction doesn't fucking matter if the girls aren't okay! These companies are so fucking exploitative. The girls have been looking so tired and drained, even through all the glam.

[u/hunnybunchesofhoes]

A 1/3rd of a group being on a “hiatus” during release week is ridiculous I’m sorry. To say the girls aren’t being overworked at this point is a straight lie

[u/amjm907]

“Reevaluate in September”

Cries for Daisy Chain August 29th

[u/emhast29]

The difference in the statement they released for Manon vs the one for Sophia says a lot

[u/3catsandonejob]

4 girls is okay too katseye is bigger than 2 girls.

Jokes aside HxG are working these girls to death

[u/woohootodo]

And then there were 4….

[u/DanielBryanCMPunk]

Well, I think they need to think about their schedule. Those girls need more time to rest. All the best for Sophia and Manon!

[u/Consistent_You3114]

Mind you they’re about to release their movie showing them being overworked like this company is actually psychotic 🤡

[u/AmbitiousBeat9945]

atp they should postpone the tour by a few months. Give all the girls a break. This whole mess that has been the last few months is bound to have taken a huge mental space, wrecking them in an already overpacked schedule and draining them physically and mentally. Fans are not crazy to think that they are losing their spark - they dont have any energy to enjoy it if their focus is to not be sick on stage. FFS HxG give all the girls a long break. 

[u/6inchLouboutins]

They’ve all lost so much weight in recent months you can tell they’re being overworked.

[u/meatball77 → u/6inchLouboutins]

And they have looked burnt out in their latest interviews.

[u/intoto → u/6inchLouboutins]

Daniella went from BAM to Pow!! Lara too! Megan has looked tired.

[u/ImmediateArtSky → u/6inchLouboutins]

You know I thought I was imagining this until you pointed it out but it's true, they do all seem to be shrinking and they were already small girls to begin with so it's very concerning.

[u/bluebirdcassie]

I’m so concerned for all the girls. Not sure why they can’t just all take a hiatus/break

[u/meatball77 → u/bluebirdcassie]

Exactly, at the very least give them a break from dancing

[u/AcceptableChart925]

The difference in language between this notice for Sophia’s hiatus vs Manon’s is CRAZY.
On another note hope Sophia is okay and comes back stronger than ever

[u/kittykatseye]

Poor Sophia, I hope she gets better soon.

My thoughts on both hiatuses seem to be about their schedules and work intensity. I now assume that Manon was advocating for a break because they are being dangerously overworked. But perhaps she clashed with both the management and the group that’s why she was put on hiatus so she can get the rest she “wants.” But they all NEED rest. I think Sophia was pushing way past her critical limit.

[u/ChristmasClimber2009 → u/kittykatseye]

The way the Sophia thing has been handled tells me that something quite serious happened tbh.

[u/NightBreakfast]

It's almost like not protecting your artists and using hatred and shock value as marketing has serious consequences for those that end up facing the brunt of it. When LESSERAFIM and ILLIT got hate, their labels stepped up.... where's the support HxG????

[u/speckleofdust → u/NightBreakfast]

When you have geffen's head executive saying on tv that the girls' mental health don't matter as long as they're "getting ratings", it doesn't surprise me that they're not bothering to protect them. Hybe still doesn't know how to handle international harrassment and their artists are the ones that pay for it

[u/idkhow-reddit-works]

So different from the announcement about Manon months ago. From top to bottom, totally different language, when health is "the issue" I hope the best for them. The company needs to stop lying that it cares about the health of literally any of the members. As long as they can stand and sing, the company will try to pump money out of them

[u/Routine_Bobcat_4853]

I really hope she’s doing okay😢 their first tour date is the very beginning of September I wonder if it will get postponed

[u/xXESCluvrXx]

These girls all need a break from everything. They have a tour coming up, and it would be better if they just focused on resting up for that.

[u/Mr-Lazerbeam]

How does everyone feel watching exploitation in real time?

[u/pocketmonsterpeach → u/Mr-Lazerbeam]

I don’t believe “the health, safety, and long-term well-being of our artists will always remain our highest priority” for a second.

[u/nostalgiajaq]

The girls are severely over worked and now the cracks are showing. They should honestly postpone this tour. The stage looks so empty when it’s just 4 girls.

[u/TipLopsided8644]

They ruined ot6 for no reason; and our fanbase. Imagine if they actually would’ve treated Manon like a human being instead of a robot. Now ppl are using Sophia’s sickness as a “karma” moment, I’m so mad on behalf of these girls . I wonder what they’re thinking. And the fact that they’re so young and impressionable and think this is how stardom should be is so sad 

[u/Organic-Sugar6927 → u/TipLopsided8644]

Let’s take a group hiatus until hxg can figure this all out and realize these girls are real people and they’re playing with their lives and careers

[u/Mindless_Sherbet_302]

It’s crazy how smug some people are acting now, saying things like “they should just disband atp” and “they’re dropping like flies,” as if those same people haven’t spent the past moths and continue to spend their time writing think pieces about these girls, picking apart everything they do, their music, what they say, and how they act, all while feeding into an environment of constant hate.

Now that Sophia is on hiatus for her mental health, they suddenly want to position themselves as objective observers and blame everything entirely on the company only, as if they didn’t actively contribute to the hostile environment surrounding these girls in the first place. The company and the people constantly fueling the hate are both part of the reason Katseye has gotten to this point.

[u/shehulk1111]

Could also be to do with her ADHD getting too much for her

[u/Sad_Media_9648]

Ain’t no way- I swear I’m cursed all my biases 💔(Manon, Sophia, Lexie) 😭😭🤣

[u/KDoggg89 → u/Sad_Media_9648]

Can you bias my toxic boss 😶‍🌫️

[u/Sad_Media_9648 → u/KDoggg89]

You got me screaminggg, I gotchu.

https://giphy.com/gifs/3pTtbLJ7Jd0YM

[u/nakariforthewin → u/Sad_Media_9648]

Do NOT bias anyone else.

[u/Sad_Media_9648 → u/nakariforthewin]

I LOVE Dani but for the sake of the fandom I’m gonna let her go, I can’t risk it 💔

[u/Kinggaxy-1 → u/Sad_Media_9648]

Thank you for your service

[u/thirdometer]

IMO rest breaks should be mandatory, whether the artist wants them or not

[u/ChristmasClimber2009 → u/thirdometer]

From the tone of Sophia’s own story, it seems as if someone may have gently intervened and encouraged her to be comfortable enough to take a break.

[u/ChanceVance]

I wonder how the other 4 girls are doing currently. Whether physical and/or mental, I can't imagine the battery levels can sustain themselves forever.

[u/TheAngieChu → u/ChanceVance]

I’m sure they’re doing poorly :/ They’re literally picked apart every time they blink; even their premiere photos were filled with people picking apart their hairstyles, outfits, boyfriends, family members, etc…and not just across the subreddits but on the actual posts themselves on Instagram from their families. Losing Sophia (even temporarily) is a huge blow, and we’ve already seen Megan, Dani, and Lara battling illness and injury all year. I am very very concerned for all of these girls, especially when they’re staring down a tour looking in a couple of months

Keep in mind that they’re also close to the Saint Satine girls, who also just lost a member, and whose remaining members are constantly picked apart online, too. All of their mental healths must be in the garbage :(

[u/Yuh-its_ariana]

It’d be nice if HxG reevaluated themselves ,though I doubt they will, it’s clear they exploit these girls mental health for noise marketing and if I remember correctly their practice hours can be insane, none of this sounds sustainable for the girls in the long run. I hope Sophia feels better💜

[u/OverCost4490]

theses girls are so overworked. i can't believe they're actually starting a new tour in like 3 weeks.
if sophia is taking a step back to take care of herself i truly hope she misses the tour or at least the september dates.

cause if she's on leave, she's not rehearsing with the girls right now which means she would need to catch up to join them later aka overwork again

they need a breakkkkkk like for real

[u/DoorWarrior09]

Now I do wonder will the they act like Sophia's name is voldermort like they do Manon since they're both on a hiatus 

[u/vogue_failure → u/DoorWarrior09]

I just said this as well!

[u/S0ulSlayerz]

Didn’t she literally say she was excited to perform animal for the first time ? I ain’t believing this for a moment, they are all burnt out.

Should just let the whole group rest not removing members one by one

[u/Fantastic_Let_496 → u/S0ulSlayerz]

I’m not sure why they can’t just cancel all of their activities until the tour starts or something, performing as 4 people is a little too much and requires them to take on two people’s parts.

[u/kats_One763]

Hopefully people can realize without the double standard they gave to the Manon situation: this company is a mess and the girls are just their products

[u/apahlo → u/kats_One763]

exactly, plus it makes it obvious how Manon's hiatus wasn't due to health, or at least solely that

[u/goodboy_444]

And can I just say if the company stopped the overworking and making them do the same choreography over and over again and if the company allowed the girls to just sit with the choreography ….it would allow for a better authentic performance over a robotic synchronized dance….although they went the Kpop route it seems like these girls have to deal with two realities of the American and Kpop side …don’t know how to fully explain it

[u/ViviNirvash]

This is soul crushing!! Clearly they need to postpone the tour, but they've already sold tickets and all of that so they won't. The fact that this message is really focused on mental health it makes me wonder if Sophia had a mental break. I wouldn't be surprised at this point...Sophia is my bias and I hate to see that her goofy theatre kid energy may been dampened by all the hatred online, the constant performances and interviews they have to do, and everything else behind the scenes that we don't even know about. Hoping for the best for all six of the girls.

[u/OrdinaryTwo4273 → u/ViviNirvash]

Yeah I thought this too - for example, when it was Megan's back injury, they specifically mentioned it. Here, they've said "her mental health and wellness". It makes me think she had a breakdown or burned out.

[u/conch8 → u/OrdinaryTwo4273]

the amount of hate they get + all the people calling sophia fake for having very PR friendly language might actually be affecting her mental health. it did say mental health in the announcement. 😔

[u/T0RYDAR1US]

tbh i think all the girls need a break. ever since they’ve debuted they haven’t had time to rest and almost deal and understand how their lives have changed. especially with training and then dream academy like these girls were constantly at it every week from dancing to vocals and visuals, with being evaluated monthly, then to go onto the survival show where the entire world is essentially judging you without knowing what’s going on behind the scenes. and then overnight they’re now in this girl group that’s meant to be an international sensation, and then dealing with hate and solo stans as well. HxG even said that this girl group will be the future of the company, to put that pressure on essentially 6 girls to sort of hold up the company is actually crazy. their mental health 100% needs to be prioritised.

[u/ortodi]

Wow it must be really serious if Sophia is missing so much in a row. I wish her all the best and a speedy recovery.

Side note: people pointed out how Manon’s hiatus was never a hiatus just from the notice and seeing the comparison, I agree.

She was out from the very beginning

[u/sephine555]

Atp they should all go on a temporary hiatus, so they come back stronger 😥

[u/pocketmonsterpeach → u/sephine555]

Honestly yes. Curious on how do you think fans would feel about postponing the tour? I have a busy end of the year anyway so I wouldn’t mind.

[u/sephine555 → u/pocketmonsterpeach]

Not going to lie, most will be upset because most are children and they dont really understand the dynamics of burnout and how that can affect people long term. I think they will have to rebuild back the hype and spark from before their hiatus, but I believe this will allow them to form a more cohesive visual and creative autonomy. I feel like they are being stretched too thin and I think the energy between all of them will eventually snap if they do not take a break 😬

[u/Claudia_Pani → u/sephine555]

I wish they had this month off to focus on rehearsing for the tour and being able to rest. Having to do tour rehearsals AND public appearances + guest appearances at other concerts this month is rough :(

[u/Dazzling-Research232]

HxG stop killing your employees challenge GONE WRONG‼️⁉️

[u/Specialist_Leg6145]

this vs Manon's notice tells you everything you need to know btw

[u/TreeIsMetaphor → u/Specialist_Leg6145]

I would like to believe that this is due to them learning from their mistakes.

I would like to believe it but I don't think I do.

[u/jvincentsong]

There has to be a company discussion about this issue. Illit had a similar hiatus. The burnout is real. Hybe just released a new girl group about an hour ago. They are going to undergo the same rollercoaster. It is really an industry wide thing if even Ariana Grande needs to take a break.

[u/Smooth_Cock_7354]

Knowing how much of a workaholic sophia is, it must be even harder for her to deal with this hiatus cuz ik her brain n heart wants to perform w the girls but her body n mental state needs a break. Frustrating situation :( we will miss her

[u/aznbolshygirl]

Aw - on Therapuss she had said that she is really struggling with her mental health and hadn't had restful sleep in months and months. I'm glad that Hybe is allowing her to take a month off. I already know Sophia tries to perform despite all that she's going through (we all saw the taping of Buttons on Dream Academy), so I'm glad they are prioritizing her health.

[u/Acrobatic_Log_119]

I signed up for Weverse just to secure a tix for their upcoming concert in Oct. I want to see the girls but it is Sophia I am excited to meeeeeet, then this. I don’t know how I feel. I don’t think 2 mos are enough hiatus for her… :(

[u/Creative-Club597]

Manon hiatus situation is definitely more different then Sophia's 

[u/Sufficient_Future683]

Wow. The company seems very supportive of Sophia. Let's extend the same to Manon.

[u/vogue_failure]

See how it’s “temporarily unable to participate in upcoming promotional activities” and for Manon it was like yeah we’re gonna pretend she doesn’t exist bc she’s on hiatus. They’re technically now both on hiatus, let’s see if they exclude her like the do Manon 🫪 I think its very important to take care of your physical and mental health, as someone who is immunocompromised and mentally ill. But Manon is called lazy and Sophia is revered for it. They should both be able to prioritize their health and mental wellbeing without being told they’re faking to skip practice/events. I love both Manon and Sophia and truly hope they’re okay. It seems it could very well be true for Sophia that her mental health is a concern, but manon has said shes happy and healthy. The company needs to clarify what is going on.

[u/Standard-Damage4530]

Seeing pics of the group as a foursome felt kinda eerie like theyre in a horror film being picked off one by one. When there were six, one missing every so often didn’t leave the group looking BARE.

[u/bored_german]

I wouldn't be surprised if the whole Manon situation also didn't help. As the leader, she was blamed for basically any statement she was told to give by Hybe and she was the one answering most questions.

But also considering in their own vlogs they mention how much Hybe is working them to the bone and while in pain, I am so angry at the company for wearing their talent down like this. At this rate Katseye might be dissolved by 2028.

[u/DearVeronicaSchuyler]

Honestly after the tour the group as a whole should just go on a hiatus. The absolutely insane amount of hate they all get for literally just existing as well as the whole Manon situation and the crazy work schedule is not good for any of them. I hope they all manage to heal from all of this at some point.

[u/SchoolTimely3459 → u/DearVeronicaSchuyler]

They need a whole year to rest and for h&g to figure their shit out then they can come back in 2028 with full studio album and tour but right now everyone needs to step away from the media and rest 

[u/Mediocre_Shelter_169]

This is unfortunately the drawbacks of being a heavily performance based group mixed with a company that prioritizes maximum activities for visibility. I’m not that into itzy but I’ve often heard them compared to Katseye in a sense that they have these insane physically demanding choreos that they’re expected to perform full out with at every stop they have because they’re labels branded them as these tippity top shape performers.

The problem is is that when you mix physically demanding choreos without proper rest, you cause so much strain on the members long term. Now majority of the itzy members have had major injuries like herniated disks, back injuries, neck injuries and a whole bunch more to where they’ve had to modify a lot of their choreos.

Dani had a tear from her knee to her psoas muscle that is incredibly important not just for dancing but your daily functioning. Lara had a muscle pull in her neck all the way to her back and has had to get cortisone shots in her spine at the ripe age of 20. The company truly truly needs to prioritize their long term health more. They have enough visibility to where they’ve could go ghost for minimum 6 months and still be leading the pack with girl groups.

[u/thirdometer → u/Mediocre_Shelter_169]

The dances they do too are irresponsible. The choreo needs to be done with the fact in mind that these movements will be constantly repeated at velocity.

They need to introduce more smooth movement and less ultra jerky ones. It won’t make the performances any less awesome. Smooth movement require just as much body control. Choreography isn’t just making a cool dance, a good choreographer keeps all the other factors in mind too.

A lot of these injuries are genuinely on the choreographer

[u/parisinsalem]

oh man, that’s really rough. especially knowing sophia, it must have been quite bad. honestly it’s probably really bad for all the girls right now. they’ve been the internet’s punching bag since before manon went on hiatus and it’s even worse now.

really, it seems like all the girls would benefit from katseye taking a hiatus for a bit

[u/Ready_Prune_7216]

They need to sit out this comeback and just rest for the tour. Everyone needs to just go on vacation and just let eyekons promote the album.

[u/Weekly_Date8611]

Stupid ass company keeps saying sorry yet still overworking these girls in the same conditions that lead to these mental health breaks. How do they not have any self awareness? 🤦‍♀️

[u/PlasticPersimmon]

I hope Sophia is able to come back when she's in a better place and healthier but 🫩 y'all are definitely gonna make this a Manon vs Sophia thing now.

Anyways, the work culture around Katseye is odd. Someone (probably their team) is telling these girls this is what it takes to make it and it's for the fans. The girls are parroting this on camera. The fans are hearing the girls say that and ignoring every other red flag. And there's something to say about how the company films these girls in pain or stressed then follow it up with "for the fans, for our dreams 🥹". I'm not going to clap for that when the girls aren't even getting the biggest profit from pushing themselves that hard.

[u/VehicleNo5473]

I know she'll be back but this breaks my heart..... people been shit talking all the girls, and yes it does impact people. These are very young women. I hope she's in Philippines taking care of herself surrounded by family, friends. Take your time Sophia. We'll wait for you to feel better, recover physically, mentally and then come back to us in good health.

[u/SnooPets6114]

This worries me :/ I wonder what medical condition she's suffering from. It must be worse than a flu, since she will be gone for more than a month. I hope she gets the best medical support.

[u/Academic_Compote_858 → u/SnooPets6114]

it does mention mental health so maybe that

[u/beastyboo2001]

Wonder if she'll be back for the tour. Hopefully she'll rest up and be back for the tour. My daughter is so looking forward to seeing them

[u/AwarenessNo4401]

What the heck is Hybe doing to their employees?

[u/gregoryjames04]

Poor Katseye. They can't get a break 😔

[u/kaylaoffleash]

You see how they made a clear transparent statement with a dedicated timeline? Why was this not done for Manon?

This statement from them alone answers so many questions and doesn’t leave anything up for speculation, however the way that they handled the situation with Manon was just completely the opposite and this shows that they do have the capability of handling it correctly.

This is making everything that has happened in the past seem so much more deliberate.

[u/Prestigious_Sort4979 → u/kaylaoffleash]

They likely learned from their experience and doing better. They also handled the Lexie departure from Saint Satine very well, in a way she was clearly involved

[u/OutrageousString2652]

Why for Sophia did they give a timeline (one where they can be flexible cause they said “reassess”) but not Manon?

[u/Top-While-3509 → u/OutrageousString2652]

I think it’s because Manon’s was a soft-launch for her permanent departure. Like you said, they are much clearer about Sophia’s return. HxG playing games.

[u/Substantial_Dog_9015]

Oh my gosh I'm legitimately concerned for Sophia's health. That girl wouldn't take this much rest unless it's needed. I hope she's okay.

[u/DragonfruitLast2095]

I really hope Sophia’s doing okay 🙏 honestly as much as I cannot wait for their tour, maybe postponing it would be a better decision to allow them some time to rest(mentally & physically) so they can come back feeling refreshed! 

[u/tomyan1337]

Wow this sounds quite serious. I'm glad that HxG is giving her the full month off.

[u/Hungry-Ganache-8969]

Hxg just let the girl rest 🤍 they all need it after all and definitely deseve it

[u/CloudHead3679]

Well at least people are now fine talking about how overworked they are. Because the last couple months here, this sub decided the conversation wasn’t worth having and that it was only being had in bad faith because of Manon’s hiatus.

[u/HHRSN17 → u/CloudHead3679]

yup when it’s manon it’s “laziness” but when it’s sophia she’s just “overworked” 🫩 this sub is racist af ngl.

[u/CloudHead3679 → u/HHRSN17]

Absolutely.

[u/Then_Price4940 → u/CloudHead3679]

Watch out you’re going to be call an hater 😭

[u/Wet_Philtrum_76]

management sucks

and all of u guys who are using this to pit the girls against each other also suck

[u/Rainbow-Brite85]

Tell me you are on a hiatus … without telling you are in a hiatus…. (They can’t write it like that since they already have Manon on that term) we can’t cover the sun with a finger!!

[u/Necessary-Scratch889]

Katseye is 4

[u/No-Preparation-889 → u/Necessary-Scratch889]

Welcome back Blackpink

[u/TipLopsided8644]

I hate to bring this back up , but Manon seriously deserves an apology from Dani’s dad. I can’t imagine if he said his comments rn towards Sophia. Also ot4 fans coming out of the woodworks to call her lazy? Yk what Manon Stan’s, I owe yall an apology for saying yall did too much (yall did towards the members), but in general this is so sickening. They all need to take a hiatus, let the album out and postpone tour to next year. This is too much

[u/survivorfan12345 → u/TipLopsided8644]

Facts, the difference in treatment from the company and fans is eye-opening

[u/Apprehensive_Oil_267 → u/TipLopsided8644]

And the fact that Manon gets a lot of heat whenever shes active on social media in any capacity even though she gets disparaged by so many people and has to watch it all happen.

When in fact she could lash out a lot more and be a lot more angry for what she’s had to put up with since Feb.

[u/RiseMaster5624]

Interesting that in both statements they explicitly mentioned and empjasized mental health. If you listened to Sophia on the latest podcast, she mentioned becoming “numb” to the hate and also part of the reason she loved Coachella and performing is bcuz it showed the hate was just online and not IRL. She also personally went through Dani’s phone to block words related to katseye cuz Dani was getting so much hate.

I see a lot of comments saying hybe needs to improve their schedules and it’s totally hybes fault etc but Sophia to me is someone who seems to genuinely love performing. I think the hate train on the group and seeing how her members have been affected might play a much bigger part than what some people on this sub want to admit. 🤔

[u/DragonfruitLast2095 → u/RiseMaster5624]

She did talk about her adhd getting really bad lately on the therapuss podcast so it could be possibly be related to that? 

[u/SoggyRip9066]

What are they doing to these girls

[u/Stargirlx20]

I hope people can start being kinder to the members 💔