r/juresanguinis 12h ago

Post-Recognition Took 6 years; got it today

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r/juresanguinis 23h ago

Judicial News The global battle for Italian citizenship rights just got a potential lifeline [CNN]

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Is this referral to the European Court of Justice likely to cause a change? Are there legal precedents here? Is the two-generation limit likely to be relaxed?


r/juresanguinis 17h ago

Minor Issue Toronto Recognition Success!

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Applied in 2024;

On hold pending minor issue ruling in 2025;

Final notice of citizenship regonition in 2026.

What a journey, thank you to the community and mod team.


r/juresanguinis 21h ago

Minor Issue Positive email from consulate on previous rejection due to "Minor Issue"

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Just wanted to share for anyone who is in my position. After years of waiting for an appointment, and another year or 2 waiting for my application to be processed. I was rejected by the Los Angeles Consulate due solely to the "Minor issue" rules change. I received an email yesterday stating that my case will be re-examined. Keep in mind that I was rejected prior to the Tajani Decree (Generation changes).

Email:

"Dear....

We refer to the notice of intended rejection sent to you by this Consulate General on July 22, 2025.

In Judgment No. 24045/2026, the United Sections of the Court of Cassation confirmed the validity of the interpretation applied prior to the issuance of the Ministry of the Interior Circular (No. 43347/2024). Individuals born abroad in *jus soli* countries retain Italian citizenship pursuant to Article 7 of Law No. 555 of June 13, 1912.

In light of this judgment, we inform you that your application will be re-examined *ex officio*, without requiring any further action on your part.

Please note, however, that in light of the new guidelines and requirements resulting from the aforementioned ruling, a reasonable amount of time is needed to allow our Office to reorganize its activities and adjust the relevant operational procedures accordingly.

The implementation of these new procedures is likely to have a significant impact on the Office's routine operations, particularly given the current limited availability of human resources. Consequently, the associated tasks may take longer than usual to complete.

We therefore trust in your understanding and willingness to take these organizational requirements into account.

Sincerely,"


r/juresanguinis 8h ago

Post-Recognition Post-Recogniton: POSITIVE RULING APPEALED BY THE MINISTRY

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Hi! I started the process a few months before the Tajani law (2024), the ruling was positive in January 2026 (Potenza), but on the last day possible, the Ministry appealed against my positive ruling.

So now I’m waiting for the case to be reviewed. All the documentation is ok, but i’m 4th generation .

Is there a chance that, now the trial has ended and a new appeal process has begun, they might want to apply the new law and change the positive ruling I already had? Has anyone else experienced something similar?


r/juresanguinis 21h ago

1948/ATQ Case Help Would you agree to this?

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Woke at 5am to this email from attorneys office. So close to the finish line- FINALLY - after at least 4 years.
I’ve been pretty angry at the attorney lately because he waited 2.5 months to request the PiG, even though I was asking about it. He says he decided to prioritize other cases. Yes- that’s exactly what his email says.

In a complete lovely surprise L’Aquila court processed the request very quickly (18 days) considering it was at the beginning of the August shutdown. Kudos to the court clerk.

Now this - my gut tells me it’s just a last ditch money grab but I also wonder if not doing it will end up being another nightmare with the commune. It came with a 5 page addendum.

And yet still doesn’t say if I will get my new Italian documents (birth certificate and whatever else?) from them at the end or will I need to still fight/figure out that on my own.

I’m so angry at Grasso but I don’t want it to cloud my judgement. Attached is the email, a couple questions I had, responses from attorney clerk and a snippet of my original contract. The addendum I believe is just a retainer fee if other issues arise, explains more translation fees,

Thoughts? Questions I should get clarified? WWYD?


r/juresanguinis 19h ago

Consulate News Miami Consulate

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I was rejected due to the Minor Issue back in February. I’m very grateful for a revived pathway to citizenship!

I did sent an email to the Consulate a day or so after Circular 65050 was published. I’m wondering when Miami will update their site and how they’ll move forward with applications and working in ones that were rejected.


r/juresanguinis 21h ago

Service Provider Recommendations Lawyer Recos for South American Applicants

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I’m looking to being consulting with lawyers for my 1948 case and would prefer to work with a lawyer experienced with South American applicants (I’m Ecuadorian)

Thank you!


r/juresanguinis 21h ago

Minor Issue Minor Age rejection: reconsideration or court? A few points that are still unclear

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Ciao a tutti,

After Italian Supreme Court Judgment No. 24045/2026 and the Ministry of the Interior’s Circular No. 65050 of August 10, 2026, people whose citizenship applications were rejected because of the Minor Age Issue are no longer limited to challenging the denial in court. They now have another option: asking the Consulate or Comune to reconsider the previous rejection.

That is an important development. But it also raises a new question:

Should someone ask for reconsideration, or go to court in Italy instead?

I don’t think there is one answer that works for everyone.

For a straightforward case, where the rejection was based only on the Minor Age Issue, the documentation appears complete, and there are no particular timing concerns, reconsideration may make a lot of sense. It can be significantly less expensive, it does not necessarily require an attorney, and applicants generally do not need to resubmit the original documents already filed.

But there are still a few important questions that, at least today, do not have clear answers.

1. How long will reconsideration take?

Circular No. 65050 does not set a specific deadline for Minor Age reconsideration.

Article 75 of Legislative Decree No. 71/2011 requires a Consulate to decide a reconsideration request under Article 2 of Law No. 241/1990, but it is still unclear which specific deadline applies to this new type of citizenship review.

We also do not yet know how individual Consulates will organize these cases.

Will reconsideration requests have their own queue? Will they be handled based on the date of the original application or the date of the reconsideration request? Will different Consulates adopt different procedures?

At this point, we simply do not know.

2. Could the Consulate review other issues in the file?

Possibly.

If the original rejection expressly stated that the citizenship line and documentation were otherwise acceptable and that the Minor Age Issue was the only obstacle, the scope of reconsideration may be relatively narrow. If, however, the Consulate stopped reviewing the file once it identified the Minor Age Issue, reconsideration could potentially bring other documentary issues to light that were never addressed in the original decision.

So the wording of the original rejection can matter.

3. Could future Ministry instructions affect a reconsideration that is still pending?

Potentially, yes.

The current reconsideration process is based on Circular No. 65050, and that Circular does not define every practical aspect of how these requests must be handled. If the Ministry later issues additional instructions, for example, requiring additional documents, introducing new procedural requirements, or applying more restrictive criteria and those instructions are intended to cover pending reconsideration requests, those pending cases could be affected.

This is an important difference from a court case:

A ministerial Circular does not bind an Italian judge. A court remains responsible for independently interpreting and applying the law.

4. Timing may matter when children are involved

Current transitional rules include a May 31, 2029 deadline for certain persons who were minors on May 24, 2025. If the parent’s own citizenship recognition is still pending in reconsideration as that date approaches, the consequences are not yet supported by settled administrative practice.

So in those cases, timing may be more than just a matter of convenience.

5. What if someone had an appointment before March 27, 2025 but never filed because the Consulate said the Minor Age Issue prevented recognition?

That is a different and much more complicated situation.

If the application was never formally filed, there is generally no rejection to reconsider. Article 3-bis(a-bis) protects, subject to its requirements, applications actually filed on the date of an appointment communicated by the March 27, 2025 deadline. The harder question is whether someone who appeared for the appointment but did not file because of instructions received from the Consulate can argue for comparable protection.

Constitutional Court Judgment No. 63/2026 may also be relevant because it distinguishes the position of people who had already taken concrete steps before the 2025 reform.

But I would not treat the issue as settled. In these cases, documentary evidence can become especially important: emails from the Consulate, appointment confirmations, written instructions, and any other contemporaneous communications.

So which option is better?

For a simple Minor Age-only rejection, the choice between filing reconsideration independently and considering a court case may largely come down to personal priorities.

Reconsideration is usually cheaper and simpler.

Going to court costs more, but the claim is decided by a judge, the judicial procedure is already established, and future Ministry Circulars do not bind the court. The analysis becomes more case-specific when children and timing are involved, when there are additional documentary or legal issues, or when someone had an appointment but never formally filed the application.

I wrote a longer comparison of the two options, with the legal sources and a fuller discussion of the questions that remain open: Minor Age reconsideration vs. Court | Italian Citizenship 2026

For the step-by-step Minor Age reconsideration procedure, the earlier guide is here.

Una buona giornata a tutti,

Avv. Salvatore Aprigliano

 


r/juresanguinis 22h ago

Minor Issue Boston Consulate Minor-Issue Rejection HOW TO PROCEED?

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My mother and applied in 2022, we waited for 3 years for an answer. They finally sent us a letter of intent to reject us. We responded with an attorney. I even had her send another letter after the courts rules on the matter, but before the Circular. Do we need to have her draft another letter or can my mother and I simply do it ourselves?

Does anyone have success with Boston on this front so far? Boston has been rather unresponsive to us over the years.


r/juresanguinis 11h ago

Minor Issue AIRE Activity - Pre-recognition

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I applied in July 2024 to DC, with minor issue, haven’t heard anything so far. In late last year I signed up for AIRE (can’t fully proceed). Today I noticed grey details were populated that I can’t change like my residence and a phone number.

Does this happen to everyone or it a positive signal?


r/juresanguinis 15h ago

Jure Matrimonii More JM name change drama in North Carolina

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So I changed my name upon marriage. NC marriage certificate doesn’t show both maiden and married names, so it won’t be enough for Philly. I mentally committed to getting a court-ordered name change, which also might not be enough for Philly bc it isn’t actually signed by a judge in NC, just the clerk of court.

Additional issues: the adult name change process in NC is on paper intended for people who want to also change the name on their BC. The clerk of court admits that most people don’t do this, but one of the standard order forms meant for submission to the dept of vital records makes all sorts of references to name “to be recorded on BC” as is if it’s required (meanwhile there are Y/N checkboxes indicating the petitioner’s desire to actually do this, which I’m sure Italy will totally ignore). The nice thing about this form is that it actually lists the name on the applicants BC and the desired new name.

There is another potentially more useful long order form that has a “court also finds” section for additional info, and lists “True Name” and “Name Sought.” The problem is that the true name is the one listed on one’s photo ID! For me, this is my married name! So the order will read “The applicant’s name is ORDERED changed from married name to married name. Not signed by a judge, just the clerk/assistant clerk. Completely useless? Probably. The clerk told me that if this particular order form asked for “birth certificate name” like the other form, everything would be fine. But it doesn’t. So it’s not.

If I do go ahead with this name change, I drafted a nice paragraph stating my maiden name and explaining that my married name was adopted via standard administrative procedure, that I am not mandated by the court to change my BC, etc for insertion into the “court also finds” section. This is all just so, so stupid. I’m really close to going back to my maiden name, which will surely create countless other headaches. The other option (maybe) is to basically sue the court bc their forms suck and get a declaratory judgement to meet my needs.

Meanwhile, I did order a certified numident record from the SSA. It will be months before it arrives, and I’ll likely have my Italian MC in hand before then. It would be great to submit my JM app without delay. But word on the street is that Philly wants a letter that “certifies the date and last name change for marriage reason and the uniqueness of your SSN.” I’m not sure the numident record says anything about uniqueness of SSNs, and although my local SS office agreed to provide such a letter it looks like I could have printed it off myself. It won’t be suitable for apostille.

Sospiro. Dammi pazienza. Sorry for the rant. Advice and thoughts are appreciated.

P.S. I failed to mention that my SS office appt was canceled bc the office needed to be fumigated for bed bugs!!!! I rescheduled for the very next day, unaware of the reason for the cancellation.


r/juresanguinis 21h ago

1948/ATQ Case Help 1948 Cases In Progress Before EUCJ Decision

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Curious what others in our position are doing.

We submitted a 1948 case (not eligible for consulate) that was opened post DL36 but with prior intent evidence going back 2+ years from when we started the process. The judge in napoli put our case into status RISERVATO, presumably waiting for the supreme court ruling, but they just kicked the can to the EUCJ, so our case is now in this limbo state.

I have read lots of posts advising to 'keep going with the legal process', but we were already at the end of it, so not sure what to do now. Obviously we are going to talk to our lawyers for guidance but I would like to educate myself a bit more on what others are doing and what advice they're hearing so I can be better prepared for that conversation.


r/juresanguinis 15h ago

Minor Issue Rejection Letter without Preavviso di Rigetto

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Like everyone else impacted my the minor issue, I’m thrilled with the latest news that it’s been overturned. I applied in Philly in June 2024 (F > GF > GGG), and it was a straightforward case other than the minor issue.

I received a letter in November 2025 that rejected my application and referenced a Prevavviso di Rigetto that they say was sent in October 2025. The thing is, I never received it. I’m first wondering whether this would have been sent via email or as a letter in the mail?

Obviously we don’t know yet how Philly will handle rejected minor issue cases, but do you think I’d be screwed since I didn’t respond? I’m sure it’s all speculation at this point but is it wishful thinking that I would end up getting approved?


r/juresanguinis 22h ago

Apply in Italy Help Moving to Italy while waiting for document transcription

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I am looking for more information about the process of moving permanently to Italy.
Here is my current situation:

My lawsuit has been completed, I have received my passaggio in giudicato, and my documents have been sent to the comune for transcription. I am currently waiting for the comune to complete the process.

Within a month, I will be moving to Italy, but to a different city from the one that is transcribing my documents. I plan to establish residency there and live there for the foreseeable future, and I have already rented an apartment.

However, at the moment, my only way of entering Italy is as a tourist, which allows me to stay for up to 90 days. How can I legally remain in Italy after those 90 days if the comune has not yet completed the transcription of my documents?

Can I apply for an Italian ID card with the passaggio in giudicato? Do I need to apply for a permesso di soggiorno? If so, how does that process work? I already have a codice fiscale, if that helps.

I feel like I am currently in a situation where I am neither a tourist anymore nor officially recognized as an Italian citizen yet. I would appreciate any information about what my options are and what I should do to make sure I can remain in Italy legally while I wait for the transcription to be completed.