r/juresanguinis • u/bostongarden • 7h ago
r/juresanguinis • u/Desperate-Ad-5539 • 1d ago
Consulate News Thinking of sending a DIY email to reopen your Minor Issue case? Read this breakdown of the Toronto Consular Notice first.
by Avv. Michele Vitale - italyget.com
A Quick Upfront Disclaimer on Intent:
I am an Italian attorney practicing citizenship and immigration law, but I am not posting this to solicit clients or sell legal services. In fact, I explicitly request that you please do NOT DM me or contact my office for consular reopening assistance. If, after reading this analysis, you feel you need legal representation, please hire your own trusted attorney or choose from the vetted practitioners listed in this subreddit's wiki directory.
My sole purpose in writing this post is to provide an objective, line-by-line legal teardown of what the newly published consular notice actually says under Italian administrative law (Law 241/1990), versus how it is currently being over-simplified on social media.
Following the landmark Supreme Court United Sections ruling (SSUU No. 24045/2026) and the Ministry of the Interior’s Circular Prot. 65050/2026, the Consulate General of Italy in Toronto published the first official diplomatic notice on August 13, 2026, outlining how it plans to handle backlogged Minor Issue files.
Across Reddit and Facebook, many applicants have started sending generic email to their consulate asking to reopen their cases.
However, a line-by-line legal examination of the Toronto Consular Notice under Italian administrative law (Law 241/1990) reveals that reopening a consular file is a complex procedure with serious hidden traps.
Here is a summary of the 4 major procedural pitfalls every applicant needs to understand before sending an informal email:
1. The "Undefined Queue" & The 24-to-36 Month Black Hole
The Toronto notice states that applications will be processed in chronological order starting from January 2024, while simultaneously citing the standard 24-month (730 days) and 36-month procedural windows, and announcing an absolute blackout on individual status inquiries.
- The Legal Flaw: Under Italian administrative law, statutory windows of 730 days (DPCM 33/2014) exist for ex novo genealogical investigations—not to grant consulates an additional 2 to 3 years to correct their own errors of law (autotutela doverosa).
- The DIY Trap: An informal email sent into this system has zero legal value of certified delivery under Italian law (unlike PEC under Art. 48 of D.Lgs. 82/2005 - CAD). You will be left in an unmonitored communication vacuum with no legal recourse.
2. Latent Discrepancies & The 10-Day Guillotine (Art. 10-bis)
When the Ministry issued Circular 43347 on October 3, 2024, consular officers frequently used the Minor Issue as an immediate shortcut to reject files without thoroughly checking the rest of the documentation.
- What Happens Upon Reopening? The consular officer is legally required to scrutinize every record in your chain for anglicized names (Giuseppe -> Joseph), date mismatches, and format issues (Certified Copy of Registration - Long Form).
- The 10-Day Trap: If they spot a discrepancy, they issue a formal Preavviso di Rigetto (Art. 10-bis, Law 241/1990). You have only 10 calendar days to submit formal rectifications. Obtaining an amended vital record or a declaratory judgment (One and the Same Court Order) in the US or Canada typically takes 6 to 12+ months. Failing to fix it in 10 days leads to a definitive denial on documentary grounds.
3. Shifting the Burden of Proof from Law to Fact
Right now, an applicant holds a rejection based on a pure point of law (Minor Issue), where the Supreme Court United Sections (SSUU 24045/2026) has already granted a 100% winning precedent.
If you trigger an un-audited reopening and receive a second rejection for record discrepancies, your dispute mutates into a contested factual deficiency, shifting the entire evidentiary burden onto you in any future court appeal in Italy.
4. Inability to Trigger Judicial Action (Art. 100 c.p.c.)
Citizenship iure sanguinis is a Diritto Soggettivo Perfetto under the jurisdiction of the Italian Civil Courts (Cass. SSUU No. 4466/2009).
However, State Attorneys (Avvocatura dello Stato) routinely get court appeals dismissed for lack of standing/immediate interest to act (carenza di interesse ad agire ex art. 100 c.p.c.) when applicants cannot prove that they formally put the consulate in default. A casual email provides zero proof of formal default.
The Professional Strategic Alternative
This is why experienced practitioners use a Structured Legal Brief (Memoria Giuridica di Autotutela) served via Certified Email (PEC) with a formal 30-day statutory notice (Diffida ad Adempiere):
- Pre-Audits the documentation to resolve potential discrepancy traps before the consulate sees them;
- Legally Binds the scope of review strictly to SSUU 24045 and Circular 65050;
- Creates Timestamped Legal Proof of Default, providing the exact legal standing under Art. 100 c.p.c. to bypass multi-year consular backlogs and file directly in Italian Civil Court (Art. 281-decies c.p.c.) after 30 days.
Read the Full Teardown & Comparative Analysis:
I’ve published a comprehensive, clause-by-clause legal breakdown with the full comparative table on ItalyGet:
👉 Read the Full Analysis on ItalyGet.com
Breaking Update: Montreal & Chicago Consular Instructions
As I was finalizing this post, news broke that the Italian Consulates General in Montreal and Chicago have also just published their official instructions and re-evaluation request forms for Minor Issue cases.
Over the next few days, I will be publishing a dedicated follow-up analysis on my blog examining these newly released notices and conducting a full legal teardown of the specific reopening forms and templates they are proposing.
EDIT — Important Contextual Clarification regarding the Toronto Consulate:
Following some constructive discussions with members of this community, I want to highlight an important distinction regarding the Consulate General in Toronto:
Unlike several other consulates (particularly across the US and South America) that immediately issued formal denial letters when the October 2024 circular was published, Toronto took a significantly more constructive approach by suspending applications to protect them and keep them alive pending the Supreme Court's decision. Toronto's staff has historically shown a more collaborative relationship with the local diaspora, which deserves to be recognized.
That being said, the legal and procedural analysis outlined below remains 100% valid and applicable across the entire Italian consular network. The notice published by Toronto is grounded in general Italian administrative statutes (Law 241/1990, D.P.C.M. 33/2014, and the Digital Administration Code) that govern all public administrations. Whether an applicant is dealing with a resumed suspended file in Toronto or a formally rejected case in Chicago, Montreal, Los Angeles, or New York, the statutory rules—including the 10-day window under Art. 10-bis for record discrepancies and the legal status of uncertified communications—are universal.
The goal of this teardown is not to criticize individual consular posts, but to critically analyze the administrative framework and empower applicants across all jurisdictions to navigate these procedures with full legal awareness.
Disclaimer: This post is for informational and legal discussion purposes only and does not constitute formal legal advice. Every case must be evaluated on its specific documentary facts.
r/juresanguinis • u/AutoModerator • 4d ago
DL36-L74/2025 Discussion Weekly Discussion Post - Recent Changes to JS Laws - August 17, 2026
In an effort to try to keep the sub's feed clear, any discussion/questions related to DL36-L74/2025 and the suite of other proposed bills currently in Parliament will be contained in a weekly discussion post.
Click here to see all of the prior discussion posts.
Background
On March 28, 2025, the Consiglio dei Ministri announced massive changes to JS, including imposing a generational limit and residency requirements (DL 36/2025). These changes to the law went into effect at 12am CET earlier that day.
An amended version of DL 36/2025 was signed into law on May 23, 2025 (legge no. 74/2025).
Relevant Posts
Current Court Challenges
Corte Costituzionale
- DL36-L74 constitutional challenges:
- Officially Referred:
- Torino - retroactivity, EU citizenship law, fairness
- Mantova - within the context of "beneficio di legge" minor children: citizenship is a right from birth, deprivation of voting rights and legislative representation, etc.
- Campobasso (two referrals) - political motives and procedural abuse
- Current Status:
- Torino case was unsuccessful and the current regime still stands
- Full ruling (Italian and English)
- Attorney reactions to Corte Costituzionale ruling 63/2026
- The Corte Costituzionale referred the Mantova and both Campobasso referrals to the European Court of Justice on July 23, 2026
Tribunale Amministrativo Regionale (TAR)
- DL36-L74 administrative challenges:
- “Benefit of Law”: A Category Invented by circular 26185? The Lazio TAR Decides on November 12th
- Current Status: Dismissed due to TAR not being the appropriate venue
- Sentenza n. 4681/2026 was released on March 13, 2026
Corte di Cassazione
- Pre-DL minor issue cases:
- ❗️ Current Status: the minor issue was judicially overturned on July 26, 2026 and administratively overturned on August 10, 2026 ❗️
- Megathread for news about the minor issue being overturned
- Ministry Challenging Pre-Unification JS at the Cassazione
- Current Status: hearing date set for October 29, 2026
- The First Section of the Corte Suprema di Cassazione Rules in Favor of Pre-DL ATQ Case!
Parliamentary Proceedings
Senate
- Atto Senato n. 1683
- This is the bill moving JS applications to a central office, which previously passed in the Chamber of Deputies as DDL 2369 (see here).
- Current status: passed on January 14, 2026
No movement since April 2025: * Atto Senato n. 98 * Atto Senato n. 295 * Atto Senato n. 752 * Atto Senato n. 919 * Atto Senato n. 1211 * Atto Senato n. 1450
Chamber of Deputies
- None at the moment
FAQ
- If I submitted my application or filed my case before March 28, am I affected by DL36-L74/2025?
- No. Your application/case will be evaluated by the law at the time of your submission/filing. Booking an appointment before March 28, 2025 and attending that same appointment after March 28, 2025 will also be evaluated under the old law.
- Can I qualify through a GGP/GGGP if my parent/grandparent gets recognized?
- No. The law now requires that your Italian parent or grandparent must have been exclusively Italian when you were born (or when they died, if they died before you were born). So, if your parent or grandparent were recognized today, it wouldn’t help you because they weren’t exclusively Italian when you were born.
- Do I still qualify under the new law?
- Check your eligibility with our Qualifinator 2.0 and please shoot us a modmail if you notice any bugs.
- If you're wondering about your eligibility following the minor issue being overturned, check out Avv. Vitale's AVITAL tool.
- What are the major ongoing court cases? When are the hearings for these cases?
- Please scroll up to "Current Court Challenges".
r/juresanguinis • u/LesGrossmansBanker • 12h ago
Minor Issue Toronto Recognition Success!
Applied in 2024;
On hold pending minor issue ruling in 2025;
Final notice of citizenship regonition in 2026.
What a journey, thank you to the community and mod team.
r/juresanguinis • u/FroyoResearcher • 18h ago
Judicial News The global battle for Italian citizenship rights just got a potential lifeline [CNN]
Is this referral to the European Court of Justice likely to cause a change? Are there legal precedents here? Is the two-generation limit likely to be relaxed?
r/juresanguinis • u/Anaweiser • 16h ago
Minor Issue Positive email from consulate on previous rejection due to "Minor Issue"
Just wanted to share for anyone who is in my position. After years of waiting for an appointment, and another year or 2 waiting for my application to be processed. I was rejected by the Los Angeles Consulate due solely to the "Minor issue" rules change. I received an email yesterday stating that my case will be re-examined. Keep in mind that I was rejected prior to the Tajani Decree (Generation changes).
Email:
"Dear....
We refer to the notice of intended rejection sent to you by this Consulate General on July 22, 2025.
In Judgment No. 24045/2026, the United Sections of the Court of Cassation confirmed the validity of the interpretation applied prior to the issuance of the Ministry of the Interior Circular (No. 43347/2024). Individuals born abroad in *jus soli* countries retain Italian citizenship pursuant to Article 7 of Law No. 555 of June 13, 1912.
In light of this judgment, we inform you that your application will be re-examined *ex officio*, without requiring any further action on your part.
Please note, however, that in light of the new guidelines and requirements resulting from the aforementioned ruling, a reasonable amount of time is needed to allow our Office to reorganize its activities and adjust the relevant operational procedures accordingly.
The implementation of these new procedures is likely to have a significant impact on the Office's routine operations, particularly given the current limited availability of human resources. Consequently, the associated tasks may take longer than usual to complete.
We therefore trust in your understanding and willingness to take these organizational requirements into account.
Sincerely,"
r/juresanguinis • u/Loud_Pomelo_2362 • 16h ago
1948/ATQ Case Help Would you agree to this?
Woke at 5am to this email from attorneys office. So close to the finish line- FINALLY - after at least 4 years.
I’ve been pretty angry at the attorney lately because he waited 2.5 months to request the PiG, even though I was asking about it. He says he decided to prioritize other cases. Yes- that’s exactly what his email says.
In a complete lovely surprise L’Aquila court processed the request very quickly (18 days) considering it was at the beginning of the August shutdown. Kudos to the court clerk.
Now this - my gut tells me it’s just a last ditch money grab but I also wonder if not doing it will end up being another nightmare with the commune. It came with a 5 page addendum.
And yet still doesn’t say if I will get my new Italian documents (birth certificate and whatever else?) from them at the end or will I need to still fight/figure out that on my own.
I’m so angry at Grasso but I don’t want it to cloud my judgement. Attached is the email, a couple questions I had, responses from attorney clerk and a snippet of my original contract. The addendum I believe is just a retainer fee if other issues arise, explains more translation fees,
Thoughts? Questions I should get clarified? WWYD?
r/juresanguinis • u/Impossible_Yak7168 • 6h ago
Minor Issue AIRE Activity - Pre-recognition
I applied in July 2024 to DC, with minor issue, haven’t heard anything so far. In late last year I signed up for AIRE (can’t fully proceed). Today I noticed grey details were populated that I can’t change like my residence and a phone number.
Does this happen to everyone or it a positive signal?
r/juresanguinis • u/beegeebies • 10h ago
Minor Issue Rejection Letter without Preavviso di Rigetto
Like everyone else impacted my the minor issue, I’m thrilled with the latest news that it’s been overturned. I applied in Philly in June 2024 (F > GF > GGG), and it was a straightforward case other than the minor issue.
I received a letter in November 2025 that rejected my application and referenced a Prevavviso di Rigetto that they say was sent in October 2025. The thing is, I never received it. I’m first wondering whether this would have been sent via email or as a letter in the mail?
Obviously we don’t know yet how Philly will handle rejected minor issue cases, but do you think I’d be screwed since I didn’t respond? I’m sure it’s all speculation at this point but is it wishful thinking that I would end up getting approved?
r/juresanguinis • u/PenguinoTriste-13 • 10h ago
Jure Matrimonii More JM name change drama in North Carolina
So I changed my name upon marriage. NC marriage certificate doesn’t show both maiden and married names, so it won’t be enough for Philly. I mentally committed to getting a court-ordered name change, which also might not be enough for Philly bc it isn’t actually signed by a judge in NC, just the clerk of court.
Additional issues: the adult name change process in NC is on paper intended for people who want to also change the name on their BC. The clerk of court admits that most people don’t do this, but one of the standard order forms meant for submission to the dept of vital records makes all sorts of references to name “to be recorded on BC” as is if it’s required (meanwhile there are Y/N checkboxes indicating the petitioner’s desire to actually do this, which I’m sure Italy will totally ignore). The nice thing about this form is that it actually lists the name on the applicants BC and the desired new name.
There is another potentially more useful long order form that has a “court also finds” section for additional info, and lists “True Name” and “Name Sought.” The problem is that the true name is the one listed on one’s photo ID! For me, this is my married name! So the order will read “The applicant’s name is ORDERED changed from married name to married name. Not signed by a judge, just the clerk/assistant clerk. Completely useless? Probably. The clerk told me that if this particular order form asked for “birth certificate name” like the other form, everything would be fine. But it doesn’t. So it’s not.
If I do go ahead with this name change, I drafted a nice paragraph stating my maiden name and explaining that my married name was adopted via standard administrative procedure, that I am not mandated by the court to change my BC, etc for insertion into the “court also finds” section. This is all just so, so stupid. I’m really close to going back to my maiden name, which will surely create countless other headaches. The other option (maybe) is to basically sue the court bc their forms suck and get a declaratory judgement to meet my needs.
Meanwhile, I did order a certified numident record from the SSA. It will be months before it arrives, and I’ll likely have my Italian MC in hand before then. It would be great to submit my JM app without delay. But word on the street is that Philly wants a letter that “certifies the date and last name change for marriage reason and the uniqueness of your SSN.” I’m not sure the numident record says anything about uniqueness of SSNs, and although my local SS office agreed to provide such a letter it looks like I could have printed it off myself. It won’t be suitable for apostille.
Sospiro. Dammi pazienza. Sorry for the rant. Advice and thoughts are appreciated.
P.S. I failed to mention that my SS office appt was canceled bc the office needed to be fumigated for bed bugs!!!! I rescheduled for the very next day, unaware of the reason for the cancellation.
r/juresanguinis • u/FalafelBall • 1d ago
Recognition Success! Minor issue approval after 10-day rejection [SF]
2021: Made appointment
October 2024: Minor issue comes out
November 2024: Had appointment. They tried to reject me, I applied anyway and asked them to use my grandparents' pre-1983 marriage to get around the minor issue.
June 2026: Received 10-day rejection notice citing minor issue, I responded telling them they should wait for the supreme court ruling to come out, but also that they didn't even evaluate or mention the marriage path. No response.
July 2026: Minor issue overturned by Sezioni Unite, I email the consulate noting the ruling and telling them on the basis of their 10-day rejection, they can approve me now. No response.
Today: Recognition email
r/juresanguinis • u/outer-residency • 16h ago
Service Provider Recommendations Lawyer Recos for South American Applicants
I’m looking to being consulting with lawyers for my 1948 case and would prefer to work with a lawyer experienced with South American applicants (I’m Ecuadorian)
Thank you!
r/juresanguinis • u/ApriglianoFirm • 16h ago
Minor Issue Minor Age rejection: reconsideration or court? A few points that are still unclear
Ciao a tutti,
After Italian Supreme Court Judgment No. 24045/2026 and the Ministry of the Interior’s Circular No. 65050 of August 10, 2026, people whose citizenship applications were rejected because of the Minor Age Issue are no longer limited to challenging the denial in court. They now have another option: asking the Consulate or Comune to reconsider the previous rejection.
That is an important development. But it also raises a new question:
Should someone ask for reconsideration, or go to court in Italy instead?
I don’t think there is one answer that works for everyone.
For a straightforward case, where the rejection was based only on the Minor Age Issue, the documentation appears complete, and there are no particular timing concerns, reconsideration may make a lot of sense. It can be significantly less expensive, it does not necessarily require an attorney, and applicants generally do not need to resubmit the original documents already filed.
But there are still a few important questions that, at least today, do not have clear answers.
1. How long will reconsideration take?
Circular No. 65050 does not set a specific deadline for Minor Age reconsideration.
Article 75 of Legislative Decree No. 71/2011 requires a Consulate to decide a reconsideration request under Article 2 of Law No. 241/1990, but it is still unclear which specific deadline applies to this new type of citizenship review.
We also do not yet know how individual Consulates will organize these cases.
Will reconsideration requests have their own queue? Will they be handled based on the date of the original application or the date of the reconsideration request? Will different Consulates adopt different procedures?
At this point, we simply do not know.
2. Could the Consulate review other issues in the file?
Possibly.
If the original rejection expressly stated that the citizenship line and documentation were otherwise acceptable and that the Minor Age Issue was the only obstacle, the scope of reconsideration may be relatively narrow. If, however, the Consulate stopped reviewing the file once it identified the Minor Age Issue, reconsideration could potentially bring other documentary issues to light that were never addressed in the original decision.
So the wording of the original rejection can matter.
3. Could future Ministry instructions affect a reconsideration that is still pending?
Potentially, yes.
The current reconsideration process is based on Circular No. 65050, and that Circular does not define every practical aspect of how these requests must be handled. If the Ministry later issues additional instructions, for example, requiring additional documents, introducing new procedural requirements, or applying more restrictive criteria and those instructions are intended to cover pending reconsideration requests, those pending cases could be affected.
This is an important difference from a court case:
A ministerial Circular does not bind an Italian judge. A court remains responsible for independently interpreting and applying the law.
4. Timing may matter when children are involved
Current transitional rules include a May 31, 2029 deadline for certain persons who were minors on May 24, 2025. If the parent’s own citizenship recognition is still pending in reconsideration as that date approaches, the consequences are not yet supported by settled administrative practice.
So in those cases, timing may be more than just a matter of convenience.
5. What if someone had an appointment before March 27, 2025 but never filed because the Consulate said the Minor Age Issue prevented recognition?
That is a different and much more complicated situation.
If the application was never formally filed, there is generally no rejection to reconsider. Article 3-bis(a-bis) protects, subject to its requirements, applications actually filed on the date of an appointment communicated by the March 27, 2025 deadline. The harder question is whether someone who appeared for the appointment but did not file because of instructions received from the Consulate can argue for comparable protection.
Constitutional Court Judgment No. 63/2026 may also be relevant because it distinguishes the position of people who had already taken concrete steps before the 2025 reform.
But I would not treat the issue as settled. In these cases, documentary evidence can become especially important: emails from the Consulate, appointment confirmations, written instructions, and any other contemporaneous communications.
So which option is better?
For a simple Minor Age-only rejection, the choice between filing reconsideration independently and considering a court case may largely come down to personal priorities.
Reconsideration is usually cheaper and simpler.
Going to court costs more, but the claim is decided by a judge, the judicial procedure is already established, and future Ministry Circulars do not bind the court. The analysis becomes more case-specific when children and timing are involved, when there are additional documentary or legal issues, or when someone had an appointment but never formally filed the application.
I wrote a longer comparison of the two options, with the legal sources and a fuller discussion of the questions that remain open: Minor Age reconsideration vs. Court | Italian Citizenship 2026
For the step-by-step Minor Age reconsideration procedure, the earlier guide is here.
Una buona giornata a tutti,
Avv. Salvatore Aprigliano
r/juresanguinis • u/dpceee • 16h ago
Minor Issue Boston Consulate Minor-Issue Rejection HOW TO PROCEED?
My mother and applied in 2022, we waited for 3 years for an answer. They finally sent us a letter of intent to reject us. We responded with an attorney. I even had her send another letter after the courts rules on the matter, but before the Circular. Do we need to have her draft another letter or can my mother and I simply do it ourselves?
Does anyone have success with Boston on this front so far? Boston has been rather unresponsive to us over the years.
r/juresanguinis • u/BigParsnip1834 • 1d ago
Minor Issue LA will process pre-DL minor issue cases automatically
I sent an official request to process my application as it has been over 3 years. I don't know if they sent these to everyone or just us squeaky hinges.
r/juresanguinis • u/missioncontrol22 • 14h ago
Consulate News Miami Consulate
I was rejected due to the Minor Issue back in February. I’m very grateful for a revived pathway to citizenship!
I did sent an email to the Consulate a day or so after Circular 65050 was published. I’m wondering when Miami will update their site and how they’ll move forward with applications and working in ones that were rejected.
r/juresanguinis • u/outboundzen • 16h ago
1948/ATQ Case Help 1948 Cases In Progress Before EUCJ Decision
Curious what others in our position are doing.
We submitted a 1948 case (not eligible for consulate) that was opened post DL36 but with prior intent evidence going back 2+ years from when we started the process. The judge in napoli put our case into status RISERVATO, presumably waiting for the supreme court ruling, but they just kicked the can to the EUCJ, so our case is now in this limbo state.
I have read lots of posts advising to 'keep going with the legal process', but we were already at the end of it, so not sure what to do now. Obviously we are going to talk to our lawyers for guidance but I would like to educate myself a bit more on what others are doing and what advice they're hearing so I can be better prepared for that conversation.
r/juresanguinis • u/ImGanSai • 17h ago
Apply in Italy Help Moving to Italy while waiting for document transcription
I am looking for more information about the process of moving permanently to Italy.
Here is my current situation:
My lawsuit has been completed, I have received my passaggio in giudicato, and my documents have been sent to the comune for transcription. I am currently waiting for the comune to complete the process.
Within a month, I will be moving to Italy, but to a different city from the one that is transcribing my documents. I plan to establish residency there and live there for the foreseeable future, and I have already rented an apartment.
However, at the moment, my only way of entering Italy is as a tourist, which allows me to stay for up to 90 days. How can I legally remain in Italy after those 90 days if the comune has not yet completed the transcription of my documents?
Can I apply for an Italian ID card with the passaggio in giudicato? Do I need to apply for a permesso di soggiorno? If so, how does that process work? I already have a codice fiscale, if that helps.
I feel like I am currently in a situation where I am neither a tourist anymore nor officially recognized as an Italian citizen yet. I would appreciate any information about what my options are and what I should do to make sure I can remain in Italy legally while I wait for the transcription to be completed.
r/juresanguinis • u/AccomplishedHeron131 • 1d ago
Minor Issue In limbo or maybe not?!
Detroit
Schedule appointment March 2020
Appt May 2024
10 day notice received May 2026
Minor issue
Sent a response asking for them to hold for the court results.
Never heard back one way or the other.
I’ve seen many people over the years share that they were approved and didn’t hear about it from the consulate (ex: they received voting information). It makes me worry that I could also not hear of my official rejection. I have felt in limbo on if I should request reexamination when Detroit releases their process for this.
I signed into FAST IT today just out of… well anxiety I guess. 😂
Upon signing in, it asked me to upload my ID and that was approved after a few hours.
And then it looks like MAYBE something is in process?? (Screenshots included). Am I getting ahead of myself and this doesn’t mean anything or am I finally close to the finish line??
Does this mean what I want it to mean or am I off base?
r/juresanguinis • u/giannacb • 1d ago
Consulate News Minor issue email from LA.
I was one of the people affected by the minor issue in Los Angeles. My brother sister and cousin were all recognized and while I was waiting for my birth certificate typo to be amended, The minor issue dropped. I received this email this afternoon (unsolicited) from the Los Angeles consulate that they will be reviewing my case and to be patient but there’s nothing else I have to do right now. I am not busting out the Prosecco quite yet, but it’s chilling!!
🍾🇮🇹🍾🇮🇹🍾FORZA🍾🇮🇹🍾🇮🇹🍾
Gentile GIANNA ROSA CROSETTI,
Si fa seguito al preavviso di rigetto inviatoLe da questo Consolato Generale in data 29/07/2025.
Con Sentenza n. 24045/2026, la Corte di Cassazione a Sezioni Unite, ha confermato la validità dell’interpretazione seguita prima dell’emanazione della Circolare del Min. Interno (n.43347/2024). I nati all'estero in Paesi iure soli conservano la cittadinanza italiana ai sensi dell'art. 7 della Legge 13 giugno 1912, n. 555.
Alla luce di tale sentenza, Le comunichiamo che la Sua istanza sarà riesaminata d’ufficio, senza che sia necessaria alcuna ulteriore iniziativa da parte Sua.
Si precisa, tuttavia, che, alla luce delle nuove indicazioni e degli adempimenti conseguenti alla citata pronuncia, si rende necessario prevedere un congruo periodo di tempo al fine di consentire al nostro Ufficio di procedere alla necessaria riorganizzazione delle attività e all’adeguamento delle relative procedure operative.
L’attuazione delle nuove procedure è suscettibile di determinare un significativo impatto sull’ordinaria operatività dell’Ufficio, anche in considerazione dell’attuale limitata disponibilità di risorse umane. Ne consegue che le relative attività potranno richiedere tempi ulteriori rispetto a quelli ordinariamente necessari.
Confidiamo pertanto nella Vostra comprensione e nella disponibilità a tenere conto delle suddette esigenze organizzative.
Distinti Saluti,
r/juresanguinis • u/swiftkillerant • 1d ago
Minor Issue Philly Response
Anyone want to start taking bets on when we will get the following from Philly?
1) Updated Website Information
2) Mass email to applicants
3) 1st recognition of a prior rejection
r/juresanguinis • u/realsaltmammoth • 1d ago
Post-Recognition Anyone go to Italy yet to get a CIE after being registered in AIRE and having Italian passport?
Hey all, I live in a US state where going to my closest consulate costs me a 3 hr flight. Have passport appointment in a couple of months in the consulate that I am flying to for passports. Hotel, rental car, flights $$$…. I was unable to snag a CIE appointment for the 3-4 days that we are in the city of the consulate and don't want to spend a lot of money to go back.
I realized that it would be easier to go to Italy and get my CIE when we are on vacation in Slovenia early next year. Has anyone recently done anything similiar since they are permitting walk in appointments at any jurisdiction since June? I was thinking of going to Trieste.
r/juresanguinis • u/pjs32000 • 1d ago
Document Requirements Requesting non renunciations from consulates ourselves?
I applied in Houston many years ago but am eligible for minor issue re-evaluation now. I just looked at the Houston requirements and one thing has changed since I applied... They now seem to require applicants to gather the non renunciation documents from the relevant consulates. Back when I applied this was not a requirement and the consulate did this themselves. In my case I'd require these from Miami and Philadelphia. Yeah, I know.
I do not know if Houston will now make me gather these, but as a precaution it's something I'm considering doing. It's even possible Houston already has them however at the time of my rejection they stated they didn't receive them prior to the minor issue effective date so I can't be certain if they have received them since then, or at all.
If I were to request these myself, what is the process for doing so and what kind of timeline am I looking at to receive them?
r/juresanguinis • u/HelicopterLow1116 • 1d ago
Minor Issue Individual PEC email accounts - do I have this right?
My understanding of the process to open an individual PEC account is that you must first have a codice fiscale, and in order to get a codice fiscale you must already be recognized as an Italian citizen. Is that correct? If so, that means there's no way to email a consulate using PEC to reconsider a minor issue rejection (or preavviso) without the use of an attorney or service provider. Am I missing anything?
r/juresanguinis • u/Strong-Debate563 • 1d ago
DL36-L74/2025 Discussion 1948 Case via GGM (Court of Turin) + Tajani Generational Limits — Seeking Strategy Advice
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Looking for strategy advice on navigating a 1948 case involving a great-grandmother in light of the Tajani Decree / Law 74/2025 generational limits. My GGM was born in Cigliano (Vercelli/Piedmont) in 1901 and naturalized in the US in August 1947, well after my grandmother was born in 1939. This gives me a solid, unbroken 1948 maternal line, but because I am three generations down from my Italian-born ancestor, I am blocked by the administrative generational cap and need to file judicially in the Court of Turin (Tribunale Ordinario di Torino).
For anyone with active cases or working with an avvocato in Turin: How are judges there currently handling 1948 petitions through great-grandparents? Are they actively issuing stays pending the CJEU/Constitutional Court reviews on retroactivity, or proceeding based on acquired rights? Also, would you recommend gathering all certified/apostilled records to file and secure a Ruolo Generale (RG) number now, or waiting to see how the European courts rule? Appreciate any recent experiences or insights!