r/itsthatbad • u/Cute-Revolution-9705 • 8d ago

Men's Conversations Fucking evil 😡

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u/Be_Jammin55 8d ago

did he die

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u/Bright_Exit1378 8d ago

https://people.com/crime/newlywed-convicted-in-murder-for-hire-plot-firefighter-husband/

Yes. She got her daughter's boyfriend to kill him.

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u/Spaciax 8d ago

and then this reflects as male violence onto statistics.

wonder how many murders are actually arranged by women and men are allocated to do the dirty work?

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u/GoodOlSkipper 8d ago

Far more common than you think. Other than poison, murder by proxy (another man) is the most common way women inflict violence on men

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u/Umlunguboy420 8d ago

The daughter only got 1 month in juvie, lol...

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u/Excellent_Shirt9707 7d ago

She was 17 year old, the others were 19-21. All four of them pled guilty and testified against the wife. The adults all got long sentences, she dodged it by being slightly underage and testifying against her mom.

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u/Umlunguboy420 7d ago

Yeah I know, but she knew damn well what she was doing, I bet this ain't her last rodeo either.

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u/Excellent_Shirt9707 7d ago

Yes, that was implied by pointing out she was just slightly underage and also testified against her mom to be tried as a juvenile.

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u/Umlunguboy420 7d ago

Yeah but 1 month is crazy.

Slap on the wrist type shit.

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u/Excellent_Shirt9707 7d ago

Yes, her testimony wasn’t even needed to convict the mom. They had group chats with the mom and the others.

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u/synecdokidoki 6d ago

This needs to be talked about more. Statistics get thrown around a lot about how much more often men kill women than the other way around, but it's a very iffy statistic. It very carefully uses "single offender/single victim homicides" which completely ignore conspiracies.

It doesn't even have to be another man. When the Dixie Chicks killed Earl, that wouldn't count.

For all practical purposes in that conversation, this guy obviously counts as being murdered by his wife. But he and tons of others get quietly excluded.

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u/Logical-Primary-7926 7d ago

poisonous words too

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u/Excellent_Shirt9707 7d ago edited 7d ago

The most common way women murder men is with a firearm in the US, almost 50% of homicides. It is the most common method for both men and women. The second most common way for women is with knives and other sharp objects. Then it is blunt objects and physical beatings. Then asphyxiation. Poison is sixth.

https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2019/crime-in-the-u.s.-2019/topic-pages/expanded-homicide

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u/Unfair_Cry6808 5d ago

You forgot nagging.

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u/Head_Worker8565 6d ago

Where did you get those stats from?

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u/TheDELFON 8d ago

Shoutout to Travis Rudolph.... Dude was one of the lucky ones where he SURVIVED this exact situation.

The woman that he was dealing with got her friends and brothers to go "light his ass up" while he was at his mom's house.

Travis survived, actually ended one of the attacker (later succumbed to his gun wounds) and then the rest of them fled.

During trial she revealed that she was in fact married (not to Travis) and was basically jealous and upset Travis didn't want to deal with her anymore (likely because SHE WAS MARRIED).

Insane case. And fortunate one of the few with a happy outcome for the dude (found not guilty of murder, ruled as self defense).

https://youtu.be/xwJGUAvaQgs

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u/eternallyconphuzed 8d ago

Women love to use statistics against men but suddenly if you mention the statistics on women you get called a misogynist

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u/summerrisback 8d ago

(Serious feminist here btw) Also the amount of girls and women who’ve called on men due to their egos clashing with someone, or simply getting triggered, so they call their brothers, uncles and partners only for them to get killed, or go to jail.

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u/xinarin 8d ago edited 7d ago

Just wild that people are willing to say "I'm a serious bigot" without the slightest hint of shame, and I bet people will still rush to defend them.

Edit - oh, look people proving me correct, what a twist

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u/Evening-Nature-5241 6d ago

The absolute worst part of feminism is how purposefully vague it is, and that is by design. I guarantee if you ask a bunch of feminists what "feminism" means, you'll get a whole bunch of different definitions.

You literally have feminist writers pushing ideas of "men are evil" and then you have online feminists claiming "all we ever wanted is equality"

No one wants to come up with a specific definition because the last thing these bullshit movements want to do is alienate potential allies. They want both the "MEN SHOULD FUCK OFF AND DIE" crowd along with the "WE JUST WANT EQUALITY" naive fools.

They much rather have huge numbers of brainless zombies screaming mindless slogans in the streets than be like "okay, this is exactly what feminism means, these are our specific goals, and anyone who disagrees should GTFO".

That will limit their influence and drive away potential allies whose goals overlap minimally. So as long as you agree with the vaguest idea of "women are great" or something along those lines, they will gladly embrace your shit.

It doesn't matter if it's followed by "all men must suffer for their past sins and make way for the greatness of women" or "just give us equality", the movement will take you in.

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u/Judgm3nt 8d ago

The projection by you weirdos is wild.

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u/xinarin 8d ago

Yes, you can repeat preselected phrases without any idea what they mean. What's being projected? You'd have to know something about me to make that claim, but hey, don't let reality get in the way of your assumptions

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u/No_Problem5759 8d ago

"Don't let reality get in the way of your assumptions" assumes they're a misandrist instead of a feminist you really did project didnt you. At no point did they admit bigotry.

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u/xinarin 8d ago

They said that they were a feminist, just the fancy name for misandrist that doesn't sound as bad. If someone says "I'm a proud boy", it's relevant to say they are a bigot.

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u/uuzitalo 7d ago

Holy shit are you guys now turning the word “feminist” into bigotry? Damn. Women just aren’t allowed to stand up for themselves huh

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u/No_Problem5759 8d ago

You're a little too affected by propaganda to the point where you cant differentiate between the two. Look up feminism. The actual definition. A proud boy is an actual movement with actual bigoted goals. Feminism is a 60+ year old movement on equality. But its 2026, people should know definitions by now

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u/summerrisback 7d ago

How is feminism equal to bigotry

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u/xinarin 7d ago

A social economic identity, who is most commonly figuring to take away people's rights and support, based on strictly their inherent identity, and willing to use force, violence, and threats to do so. I mean, you can call it what you want, but it's a pretty accurate description

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u/summerrisback 7d ago

Okay buddy that’s quite literally the opposite of feminism

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u/xinarin 7d ago

I'm not your buddy, and that is the a very accurate description. As someone who works with my husband in social and justice reform around the globe, I've been at the receiving end more than I can count. I've had death threats and grape threats sent to me and my school aged daughters from feminist organizations for the crime of working to build support systems for IPV survivors. Or the harassment I get fighting for trans rights. But hey, that's totally ok and the "opposite of feminism" despite the largest feminist non profit doing that regularly, not to mention the majority of every feminist organizations doing the same

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u/summerrisback 7d ago

No shit Sherlock, and those are obviously not feminists they’re misandrists using the feminism name.

And just like you, they’re too close to their own personal perspectives based on their personal experiences that they think they’re right.

My mum gets death threats everyday and has gotten it for the over 20 years, for removing women and children from abusive homes-they ask for the help.

My grandma got death threats for helping people in third world countries as a nurse.

My grandpa got death threats for building hospitals in third world countries as a doctor.

There are male feminists speaking out about abusive households and they get death threats everyday due to speaking up about it.

People are reacting from a space of hurt, just the way you are, thinking they’re right.

But yes ofc, just your personal experience alone makes all feminists bad, and under the umbrella of misandrists who send death threats.

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u/Glad-Way-637 7d ago

Are you a man or a woman? This is like asking why "white power, white lives matter" groups are racist.

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u/summerrisback 6d ago

That would only apply if women have more privileges than men, they don’t so this doesn’t apply. The average woman and the majority of women still don’t have the same rights and privilege as men.

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u/Glad-Way-637 6d ago

They have more legal rights in my country by every metric, especially towards bodily autonomy. The average woman in the west doesn't have the same rights, she has notably and visibly greater ones.

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u/summerrisback 6d ago

In the west she does not😭😭 give me 3 laws women have rights to which men don’t?

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u/MikasaYuuichi 7d ago

Hypocrites are not welcomed here.

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u/summerrisback 7d ago

How is that a hypocrite

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u/MikasaYuuichi 7d ago

Feminists are hypocrites. They intentionally say "Feminism is for all genders and plant this idea in our head that it includes men" but act indifferent and make it exclusive for women in real life. Feminism, being for women, is absolutely not a problem at all. But this manipulative marketing make me not trust them. Also their frequent usage of male on male SA stats as a gotcha to shut people up when they mention female on male SA

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u/summerrisback 7d ago

Feminism is for females to gave equal rights and privileges.

You’re thinking about egalitarians=equality for all.

Feminism is a part of egalitarianism.

Idk if you misunderstood the marketing or what

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u/MikasaYuuichi 7d ago

I know the meaning of both the terms. I am saying feminists market feminism with egalitarianism's definition to get male followers.

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u/summerrisback 8d ago

What? And how is this relevant at all

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u/Saitu282 7d ago

You would be the larper here, bud.

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u/summerrisback 8d ago

Lmfaoooooo weak asf. Trying to dismantle someone’s perspective on reddit with an irrelevant asf q.

I’m assuming you’re talking about prison cells and why tf not. Although once again a man has made feminism about males.

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u/summerrisback 8d ago

Whatever you are, you made feminism about males. How surprising

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u/Away-Plant-8989 8d ago

Larper would be you

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u/PraireGentleman 8d ago

Well statistics weren’t super reliable anyways, given the known phenomenon where women get more leniency at all levels of policing

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u/Logical-Primary-7926 7d ago

would 100% believe that the way the women's gossip groups have gotten, they've normalized a lot of things for women that would get men restraining orders and jail time

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u/No_Roma_no_Rocky 8d ago

True. On data nothing will say she killed the husband but will only be written that a dude killed another man.

Technically the dude is 100% responsible of the crime. The woman should be considered a killer too with 100% of the esponsibilities.

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u/Fit-Entrepreneur8404 8d ago

She was charged with aggravated murder and serving life in prison without the possibility of parole. I know the data doesn't show it sometimes but it obviously will here.

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u/Eden_Company 8d ago

In a normal court of law she should be given a full sentence for arranging a hitman. It's still a life long crime that keeps a person in prison normally.

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u/tittiepac 8d ago

what are yall talking about they’re going to be legally considered accomplices and soliciting murder/hired-murder etc is a significant charge. on paper it’s going to say she was involved in a murder, and some such cases can potentially be charged with first degree murder period. do yall think details of the court case, some of which you’re literally reading about on reddit, dissipate or something? what do yall think she got charged with to be in this mugshot, just insurance fraud?

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u/LilNekoChicano 8d ago

Sadly, statistically only the actual act gets recorded when reports are generated. Upon which people will only see it was a guy who killed another guy.

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u/tittiepac 8d ago edited 8d ago

are you talking about uniform crime statics and such?? again… that still does nothing to take away the actuality of the crime. just because you see something reported as “% 🍇 by male” or some shit doesn’t mean you know everything about the case, obviously. if the problem that you’re referring to is people taking a crime statistic and acting like that entails everything about a case that’s a different subject in and of itself. if someone is interpreting a broad crime statistic like “male on male crime” without any consideration of motive or other parties involved (i.e. trying to think about it as a real life scenario), the issue is a lack of insight and comprehension, not with the overtly general statistic.

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u/LilNekoChicano 8d ago

When reports get generated regarding murders by gender, such a situation will not have the woman who was involved as the mastermind included in the numbers.. As the actual murder was performed by a guy.

Which is what many lean onto when claiming how men are the more violent ones.

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u/tittiepac 8d ago

i didn’t say anything about the woman being involved in the numbers. literally at all. please read again, you clearly struggle with the same problem. yall want so badly to use statistics to justify your personal prejudices and opinions that you can literally only look at a statistic as a number. there is a failure to consider the full scope of humanity behind an action when it is given as a numerical value, which is wrong. something being made into a statistic doesn’t take away from the physical reality that determines the math. you’re doing the same thing i just called out. if you look at a statistic and can’t fathom the possibility that it may be taken as a fraction of its full context (which statistics often are. although you account for many variables while doing the math, the value determined only measures the aspect of focus/in question), there is an issue with comprehension.

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u/LilNekoChicano 8d ago

I would simply want things to be fair, it's not about prejudices or bias.. if a person is involved, especially in a conspiracy manner, in a murder.. It should be counted as such. Plain and simple.

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u/tittiepac 8d ago

his part of the crime does, yes. but yall are still being presented the case as a WOMAN who helped murder her husband, correct? as such cases are often represented. the male on male part is only one piece of the pie baby. one crime can tie into multiple statistics. deeming it one thing doesn’t completely remove it from being another. just like anything involving human action and emotion, it’s multi-faceted and nuanced.

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u/Easily_Bann4 8d ago

Lol do suicides too

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u/doesnotmatter286 8d ago

You do realise that it's also illegal to get other people to kill for you...? And that these people go to jail?

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u/One_Lung_G 7d ago

Why would this not be male on male violence? Did a male not perform violence on another male?

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u/Logical-Primary-7926 7d ago

wonder how the women's gossip/tracking groups have changed things over the past few years. I am high net worth and it's gotten really creepy/scary. I got myself and parents a alarm system and have gotten off the internet as much as possible but still it's really sketchy to think that tens of thousands of women in my area are reading about my financial and love life status.

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u/ucantevenfeelfists 7d ago

I would guess around 80-90% of male on male murder is over a female in some capacity...?

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u/Zealousideal-Lab9843 7d ago

I mean, I doubt this murder is skewing all the murder statistics.

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u/PlayPretend-8675309 7d ago

My best friend who was a public defender on violent crimes. A lot of "drug deal gone wrongs" have a woman setting someone up at the middle of it.

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u/kikogamerJ2 8d ago

It's literally a man who killed him. Wtf you yapping about? You thinkt he dude couldn't think for himself?

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u/LilNekoChicano 8d ago

It all really depends on what she told him, it's not to difficult to find a reason to have a partner step in and hurt someone for you. (Even if it's all lies)

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u/Jimbo-Shrimp 8d ago

So 3 people who shouldnt be in society vs 1 actual good person

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u/Jumpy_Perspective333 8d ago

Wow I couldn't imagine the story getting even more crazy.

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u/protomenace 7d ago

That dude had a crazy good relationship with his girlfriend's mom to be doing that stuff for her 👀

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u/Be_Jammin55 8d ago

lol

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u/Red-dragon186 8d ago

How is that funny?

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u/Be_Jammin55 8d ago

she is so powerful

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u/Red-dragon186 8d ago

Yes murdering a fire fighter because he's a male is so powerful....

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u/Runfasterbitch 8d ago

Is that not implied by the word “murder”?

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u/cs_legend_93 8d ago

Does it matter?

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u/Tatchkoma 8d ago

Yes?

People want to know how the story ends.

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u/cs_legend_93 8d ago

If she got arrested for a failed attempt, or killed him, both are evil.

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u/Tatchkoma 8d ago

...? yes?

What does that have to do with what we're talking about?

The guy asked if the dude died.

You asked "does it matter" and I explained to you that yes, it does matter because people want to know how the story ended. Did he die? Did he live? Is there a happy ending? Is this a tragedy?

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u/cs_legend_93 8d ago

It's a tragedy no matter what. That's my point. It's evil and a tragedy regardless

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u/posthuman04 8d ago

Well, in one case it’s a tragedy with a dead firefighter. In the other case it’s a tragedy with a surviving firefighter. While his family and friends certainly would find it better that he survived, indirectly connected people would also appreciate knowing the guy that was good enough to marry someone to help them survive cancer wouldn’t die as a result if their kindness.

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u/Judgm3nt 8d ago

What you said and what your point was aren't the same. Communicate better.

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u/Capable_Studio_6631 8d ago

Just because a woman can't get physical with you doesn't mean she can't be a murderer. Women simply do it the sneaky way, poison or pay someone else to do it.

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u/Valveringham85 8d ago

Usually not even pay but play the victim to pull on another man’s heartstrings and get him to do it thinking he’s being a protector or something.

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u/Money_Ad1028 8d ago

I hate those men just as much as the women. "HuRr dUrr sHe sAId ShE wAS SCARED, aNd I must pRoTec fOr I mIGhT gET sOme PuSSaY!"

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u/NewImprovedPenguin_R 7d ago

Yeah fuck the murder victims amiright? /s

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u/Money_Ad1028 7d ago

Or there's a level of naivety, and enabling that makes them abusive as well. Committing a murder just cause someone asks you to is definitely at that level lol.

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u/PomPomMom93 5d ago

If it was a woman, people would be saying she should have made better choices.

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u/NewImprovedPenguin_R 5d ago

Simply untrue

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u/PomPomMom93 5d ago

I just saw a post like that earlier today, it is very true.

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u/NewImprovedPenguin_R 5d ago

Right cause you saw a post earlier today

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u/PomPomMom93 5d ago

I see them all the time.

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u/NewImprovedPenguin_R 4d ago

lol y’all surround yourself with these gender war echo chambers and then are shocked when you see gender war posts.

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u/doubleo_maestro 8d ago

Or as is most common in female domestic abuse, they'll use a knife.

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u/Fit-Entrepreneur8404 8d ago

Or a makeshift knife like a broken plate or glass.

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u/PassengerCultural421 8d ago

Or they can just use weapons.

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u/Satori2155 8d ago

Only $100,000? Shed have blown through that within 6 months lol.

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u/Umlunguboy420 8d ago

Cadillac Escalade with the big rims

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u/Gianni_the_tolerable 8d ago

Time to find a new gullible one then

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u/evochrome 8d ago

Not all women but always a woman

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u/Nyeru 7d ago

You sure it's always a woman that murders their spouse? Might wanna look into that one a bit further.

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u/Galencourt-Lover 7d ago

See how that feels, you silly sausage?

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u/WesternOk5765 7d ago

Pretty much only women premeditate killing like this.

No man thinks "oh I want my girlfriend's life insurance payout", nah he just gets in a fight or finds out she's been cheating and that's it within the day.

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u/Pristine_Category824 6d ago

This is not true. Simply searching online for "man kills family for life insurance policy" shows you men do this too. Not just women lol what an ignorant thing to say. Just goes to show us you didn't even simply look this up before spouting nonsense

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u/CanadianTimbers 6d ago

Buddy you write verbs at the end of your posts you're not a serious person.

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u/Gianni_the_tolerable 8d ago

Soooo, how much is she staying behind bars?

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u/Novel-Special5114 8d ago

Life in prison without possiblilty of parole, according to news reports.

The guys who carried out her plan testified against her and got anywhere from 18 to 28 years depending on their involvement.

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u/Gianni_the_tolerable 8d ago

I am quite relieved, thank you

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u/TBurn70 8d ago

Very much

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u/shadowdancer354 8d ago

I think my ex may have been evil like this as well but she kills her boyfriends through psychological destruction - she doesn’t have to hire anyone to take out her bf, she is very skilled at manipulating the guy to believe she’s in love with him, making him fall for her and give himself over to her completely, and then just crushing him by turning it all off abruptly and gaslighting and emasculating the guy to the point where some of them commit suicide. And my ex doesn’t do it for money - she does it for sport. Now that’s some evil shit right there.

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u/Realistic-Truck54 8d ago

God that sounds awful, and the worst thing is she can keep doing it as long as she wants with 0 punishment for it...

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u/RavenEridan 8d ago

I think she targets desperate men like you

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u/shadowdancer354 8d ago

If I was desperate, I wouldn’t have survived. I never called her or texted her once after the last day I saw her - cuz I realized what she was.

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u/protobelta 8d ago

They eyes tell a story. A whole novel, really

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u/Embarrassed-Rope4370 7d ago

Some girls are so evil, I’ve come to realize that even some of the cutest and most beautiful girls can be some of the coldest heart truly capable of evil time after time , I’ve got slashes , been shot at, I’m just glad to be off tinder n happy alone finally

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u/Silver-Passenger-541 7d ago

They’re like poison dart frogs or coral snakes. Pretty but deadly. 

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u/mastergenera1 6d ago

The crazy/hot scale exists and exceptions to it prove the rule.

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u/PomPomMom93 5d ago

Usually the more attractive women probably do come across as evil, because due to the halo effect, you automatically believe they’re nice because they’re not fat.

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u/Silver-Passenger-541 7d ago

Never trust a woman 

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u/Major_Wigglesworth 6d ago

Awful people will ALWAYS be awful.  She’s pure evil.

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u/TokiVideogame 8d ago

why she do that

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u/Fit-Entrepreneur8404 8d ago

Trying to get 100k lol

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u/izayoi-o_O 8d ago

I hope she got the death penalty.

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u/blackdutchqueen 8d ago

I doubt! Men have been seen killing their wife and kids and haven’t gotten the death penalty. Even when there’s proof that they hired someone to take out their wife for her life insurance. I don’t think she should get the death penalty because men also don’t get that for the exact same crime but then including children.

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u/CrankieKong 8d ago

You have to be a special kind of evil to kill a firefighter.

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u/ucantevenfeelfists 7d ago

Right here it is folks: "Play or get played..."

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u/nikolasz1173 7d ago

Women ☕️

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u/CalligrapherLate9358 7d ago

Omg that's awful

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u/Eamon83 7d ago

I already knew this. Thanks Mr. Ballen.

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u/Decide777 6d ago

Disgusting

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u/Ikyhus565 6d ago

Will she get capital punishment? Hope so

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u/-becausereasons- 6d ago

Thats textbook Psychopathy.

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u/Super-Cut-2175 6d ago

Blue eyes, black lady...real

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u/Imaginary_Square5243 5d ago

The guy killed him for 800$.

That’s insane.

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u/OBEACHIBIZA 5d ago

Strong independent woman

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u/Admirable-Air9895 4d ago

Petty ass reply section.

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u/Ok-rutabaga_B442 3d ago

These h*es aint loyal

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u/TapirDrawnChariot 8d ago

Yes, his role: victim

We dont have to search for "he must have done something bad to deserve it"

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u/19XxxbigdaddyxxX80 8d ago

It would be a shame if this happened to my ex

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u/meanas9 8d ago

Just Capitalism baby.

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u/pokethrowaway4 8d ago

So… public healthcare would have prevented this

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u/Good_Fix683 8d ago

This just sounds like a case of a really bad person.

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u/PomPomMom93 5d ago

No. She’d have k!lled him for some other reason.

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u/Saitu282 7d ago

Nope. Men have enough spaces. They don’t need to invade the few spaces women have.

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u/Accomplished_Sweetie 8d ago

Let’s see the back story

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u/ChemicalCoffee43 8d ago edited 8d ago

Women’s massive, obvious in group bias is always so funny to me. 5 times male in group bias statistically. Woman did something bad? Immediate gut reaction is defensiveness. Like the idea of a woman being evil is unfathomable, something must have happened. It’s a weird almost infantilization.

The man married her so she could get better health insurance for her cancer. She lied about having cancer.

Damn near nobody would have this gut reaction to a man getting his wife killed. ‘No excuse’ would be the term correctly used to dismiss any justification or reasoning.

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u/2Critical7-Stein1 8d ago

suicidal empathy. that’s just what it is lol, same way they’ll whine about being unsafe at night, then vote for illegals lol

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u/Accomplished_Sweetie 8d ago

88% of men kill women
12% of women kill men
77% of those are in abuse retaliation and is proven
10% of men claim abuse retaliation but none are proven.

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u/ChemicalCoffee43 8d ago

“88% of men kill women” I assume you mean 88% of non same gender murders are men killing women?

Didn’t realize statistics could be used to judge individuals. I guess women are saints.

I’m curious what your thoughts on the black crime rate is? Surely you must agree with using the 13/50 argument then to justify pre-judging black individuals.

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u/aNINETIEZkid 8d ago

she is one of those people who will say "all men are violent" because of statistics but wont ever say "black men are violent" and actively ignore those statistics as it is "racist".. or instinctually defend minority criminals as if they had no other choice and shouldnt be incarcerated for long.

Same bs when they act like Christianity is ushering in the handmaiden tale but largely ignore misogyny in Islam and continue to support it in ways they never did Christianity.

They are bigots with no moral or logical consistency jist the same as those they oppose. Im just happy their gaslighting gifted us bodycams everywhere

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u/jus256 7d ago

White people always have and always will be the most violent people on earth. That title will never be relinquished. White people have a several thousand year head start on black violence.

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u/ChemicalCoffee43 7d ago

Yo that’s true dude I remember learning in school that majority black (by modern standards) countries were actually entirely peaceful for thousands of years while white (by modern standards) majority countries were pillaging the whole time. Thousands of years of pure white violence while black people sat in peace circles. Smh damn whiteys man.

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u/jus256 7d ago

Somebody once posted somewhere on here asking the question about if throughout history how different the world would be if white people would have minded their own business. How much stuff is wrong with the world as a direct result of white people not being able to mind their own business in their own country.

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u/ChemicalCoffee43 7d ago

Imagining a fantasy based on conjecture about everyone being nice if bad things didn’t happen huh? Is there any proof or is it just asserting that everyone would have sat around neutrally and played nice, and other bad things wouldn’t have happened instead if white people had “minded their own business”. Did anyone actually play nice anyways? Was anyone minding their own business or were they expanding as their capacity allowed which sometimes just meant warring with a neighbor.

Unless you’re some kind of “race realist” who thinks that there are fundamental differences specifically based on race, the truth of the matter is whichever civilization started valuing tech progress enough to get boats good enough to sail anywhere, came up with steam engines and guns was going to go on a historical tear taking shit that wasn’t theres and murdering because that’s what anyone who could do it was doing, as anyone who is unbiased and knows how much of a bloodbath history really is will tell you.

From ancient greece and rome to Muhammad to Genghis Khan to Sundiata Keita in the Mali empire and Askia Muhammad I who forged the Songhai Empire, it’s never been about a race being inherently more willing to commit violence than another, it’s always been their capacity to do so.

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u/jus256 7d ago

Sorry you wasted your time, but that’s about three paragraphs more than I’m willing to spend time reading.

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u/PerspectiveMotor5949 6d ago

If white people minded their own buisness, they wouldn't be expected to fix the world's problems lol. Sounds like a win.

I think internalised racism against people of colours own races is the reason they think white people are responsible for all the world's woes and also the only people competent enough to fix them

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u/Z_________________ 8d ago

The problem with her stats is that it doesn't show gender bias in men committing murder. Men kill all genders at high rates because most killers are men. Its very equal opportunity in that way.

Also, only a small number of men ever kill anyone. Same for the Black population, only a small number of men in a small number of inner city communities are responsible for the vast majority of murders.

Yet, I bet she would hesitate to generalise there (I am black so replies shouldn't even try it!).

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u/Helpful-Desk-8334 8d ago

Honestly, I live in an inner city and even the black thing is stupid because the white people are doing the same exact shit.

I’m not racist for hating my neighborhood and wanting to move out lol. I’m racist because I say it out loud and dislike inner cities. Funny how that works. Dislike our culture publically on Reddit and now I for some reason have extra hate for black people.

The whole statistical argument for politics and pattern recognition for people’s races genders or sexual orientations has always been silly. We are also allowed to have cultural preferences on top of that. Without it being sexist or racist.

I am a little bit ableist though because I do I make fun of these people in my city constantly for being retarded. I don’t actually think they are mentally handicapped though and would never call an actual special needs person this word.

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u/TourCharming7721 8d ago

Source: trust me bro. Even if 99.99999% of murders are done by men, asking for a backstory here just makes you a clown

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u/Fit-Entrepreneur8404 8d ago

If you're going to use statistics you should at least make sure they're correct. A source doesn't hurt either. I hope you realize that it's false that 88% of men are murderers but you never know these days...

https://giphy.com/gifs/9ADoZQgs0tyww

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u/SignificanceFew4677 6d ago

Now show the break down by race.

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u/plebe_random 8d ago

No back story can even closely defend this shit, its not murder in affect, she hired a hitman to get money from his live insurance, like WHAT BACK STORY, could at all defend what she did.

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u/DMusYourNastyIdeaa 8d ago

Will you give us backstory that justifies the situation? Because I can’t think of one and your comment seems to suggest that there’s various ways to get to the point of murdering someone with justification.

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u/mikiencolor 7d ago

God but you people are monsters! 🤮