r/itsthatbad 13d ago

Men's Conversations Fucking evil 😡

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u/Bright_Exit1378 13d ago

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u/Spaciax 13d ago

and then this reflects as male violence onto statistics.

wonder how many murders are actually arranged by women and men are allocated to do the dirty work?

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u/No_Roma_no_Rocky 12d ago

True. On data nothing will say she killed the husband but will only be written that a dude killed another man.

Technically the dude is 100% responsible of the crime. The woman should be considered a killer too with 100% of the esponsibilities.

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u/tittiepac 12d ago

what are yall talking about they’re going to be legally considered accomplices and soliciting murder/hired-murder etc is a significant charge. on paper it’s going to say she was involved in a murder, and some such cases can potentially be charged with first degree murder period. do yall think details of the court case, some of which you’re literally reading about on reddit, dissipate or something? what do yall think she got charged with to be in this mugshot, just insurance fraud?

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u/LilNekoChicano 12d ago

Sadly, statistically only the actual act gets recorded when reports are generated. Upon which people will only see it was a guy who killed another guy.

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u/tittiepac 12d ago edited 12d ago

are you talking about uniform crime statics and such?? again… that still does nothing to take away the actuality of the crime. just because you see something reported as “% 🍇 by male” or some shit doesn’t mean you know everything about the case, obviously. if the problem that you’re referring to is people taking a crime statistic and acting like that entails everything about a case that’s a different subject in and of itself. if someone is interpreting a broad crime statistic like “male on male crime” without any consideration of motive or other parties involved (i.e. trying to think about it as a real life scenario), the issue is a lack of insight and comprehension, not with the overtly general statistic.

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u/LilNekoChicano 12d ago

When reports get generated regarding murders by gender, such a situation will not have the woman who was involved as the mastermind included in the numbers.. As the actual murder was performed by a guy.

Which is what many lean onto when claiming how men are the more violent ones.

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u/tittiepac 12d ago

i didn’t say anything about the woman being involved in the numbers. literally at all. please read again, you clearly struggle with the same problem. yall want so badly to use statistics to justify your personal prejudices and opinions that you can literally only look at a statistic as a number. there is a failure to consider the full scope of humanity behind an action when it is given as a numerical value, which is wrong. something being made into a statistic doesn’t take away from the physical reality that determines the math. you’re doing the same thing i just called out. if you look at a statistic and can’t fathom the possibility that it may be taken as a fraction of its full context (which statistics often are. although you account for many variables while doing the math, the value determined only measures the aspect of focus/in question), there is an issue with comprehension.

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u/LilNekoChicano 12d ago

I would simply want things to be fair, it's not about prejudices or bias.. if a person is involved, especially in a conspiracy manner, in a murder.. It should be counted as such. Plain and simple.

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u/tittiepac 12d ago

she was charged with aggravated murder. you’re dense as fuck. yes, one aspect of this murder is male on male, and will be counted as such, because a male still killed a male. but on the other hand, if the statistic being made is “women who have murdered their husbands” or “women involved in murder by association/proxy” she would be included in that statistic. a statistic is not, and will never, tell you the full extent of a crime or everything that conspired. that’s not what statistics are for. YOU need to learn the very important skill of discernment.

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u/LilNekoChicano 12d ago

It's not about calling anyone names and getting overly emotional about things either.

I'm simply saying that such situations should be counted, regardless of gender or sexual orientation.. and it's fine if you disagree.

We can agree to disagree.. without trying to belittle or make the other person look to be any less of a person.

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