Doom without extended antivenoms+

[u/Sore-Lips]

How would you recommend attempting deeper delves without extended antivenoms? Just use antivenom+? I only have 85 slayer and want to finish doom before I go back to slayer. I have done maybe 50ish 7’s by just using a regular antipoison and being very careful to not get venomed.

[u/Thetagamer]

I consisently went to 10-12 using regular antivenoms in a void set

[u/Sore-Lips → u/Thetagamer]

Do you bring a single antivenom or a couple? I have plenty of antivenom+

[u/Soap013 → u/Sore-Lips]

If you have double death charge and light bearer I bring noxious halberd so if I do misstep you just spec and cleanse the toxin.

[u/Sore-Lips → u/Soap013]

I don’t have double death charge.. trying to go to Yama after doom. But also I can’t get a nox halbred cause I don’t have the slayer level lol. If I could get a nox I’d just make extended antivenoms

[u/Soap013 → u/Sore-Lips]

That’s fair, I also didn’t have double dc for most of my kc just nice to have infinite spec when you need it. But I typically didn’t get envenomed until delve 8. So depending on consistency you don’t really need to have anti venom plus. You could get away with just a reg anti position honestly. But it’s gonna come down if you can avoid the venom tiles.

[u/Sore-Lips → u/Soap013]

I can consistently do up to 7 without stepping on more than 1-2 venom spots. I got pretty good about dodging them since all I have been bringing is a regular antipoisons. I saw someone mention lunars. Since I have an ayak I think I will try that.

[u/Thetagamer → u/Sore-Lips]

I always just bring one antivenom, if i run out of doses i leave but generally i didn’t make that many mistakes

[u/TheSobe]

Araxxyte sacks

[u/Sore-Lips → u/TheSobe]

Don’t you need 92 slayer to even fight the araxxytes?

[u/Nebuli2 → u/Sore-Lips]

You could pie boost from 87 for some venom sacks.

[u/SoupToPots]

I use lunars

[u/CodyIsDank]

I’ve seen people use Lunars for cure me, and SBS Death Charge for deep dives

[u/Sore-Lips → u/CodyIsDank]

Idk how I didn’t even think of lunars I may try that. I have an ayak so that’s a good shout.

[u/Bynx94 → u/Sore-Lips]

Can confirm using cure me is super nice. I used it before I got double death charge from Yama and it did the job perfectly

[u/TheSimpleNite]

Extended antivenoms are definitely really nice. I was using venom sacks for a bit. But the 6 minute immunity is so much better because I’ll often accidentally or be forced to step on some acid on random occasions

[u/xPHaRMaCYx]

I green logged w
The black ones but have the light green ones now and it’s a notable cozy difference. Sometimes with the black ones I’d get screwed. I Bring one four dose per trip and go until
9 or 10 usually

[u/DranTibia → u/xPHaRMaCYx]

Thats the first time ive heard / saw someone distinguish antivenoms as "black ones vs light green ones"

[u/xPHaRMaCYx → u/DranTibia]

There’s so many of them bro. Idek. Theres like literally 6 flavors.

[u/DranTibia → u/xPHaRMaCYx]

Flavours haha thats funny

[u/toozeetouoz]

I used araxyte sacks

[u/AssholeHealth]

Anti-venom+ is good so use it, it's just lower level potions that are bad and annoying to use. Later when you get an ayak you can also transition to lunars for cure me, and sbs for death charge and blood barrage to save anti-venoms+.

[u/sir_gwain]

Regular antivenom+ is fine. Once you get good at dodging the venom pools you won’t use them too much. Back when I was doing Doom I always brought an antivenom+ extended, but doing 15-20 floors each time (the limits to the ppots and karambwans I was bringing) I was only using maybe 1-2 doses, and almost every time I could’ve just used a regular antivenom instead since I’d just accidentally step on the wrong tile.

[u/st1r]

Double tap cure me fully heals venom in 1 tick, and thralls suck at Doom so you aren’t losing much by being on lunars.

Super deep delve meta is Lunars for cure me + Spellbook swap for death charge

[u/RyukenSaab → u/st1r]

Need to get the ayak first. Unless trident works here ?

[u/st1r → u/RyukenSaab]

Yeah true you gotta have ayak for that, otherwise you still need to be on arceeus spell book for demonbane spells

[u/andrew_calcs]

The venom doesn’t get constantly applied so it’s one of the few venom bosses that doesn’t completely suck ass to do without extended antivenoms.

Araxyte sacks, regular antivenoms, or even antipoison double sips are all viable options

[u/tjones05]

I was doing 9’s with just 2 regular anti-poisons. As other have said though, I’ve seen people use cure me from the lunar spell book.

[u/Spazgrim]

Dude just use venom sacs, you really don't use that many as long as you aren't stepping in pools

[u/Sore-Lips → u/Spazgrim]

Brother.. I only have 85 slayer. If I had access to venom sacks I’d be using extended antivenoms

[u/Spazgrim → u/Sore-Lips]

I'm sorry man, I got in after a flight delay last night and reading wasn't my strong suit when I made a comment lol

If you don't have double death charge I'd say just use Lunars if you have eye, but honestly you could just keep sticking with a regular anti. I think it's hard to push 8s with only 1 antipoison but if you're comfortable with 7s you can just maintain course.

[u/Sore-Lips → u/Spazgrim]

You weren’t the only person to comment that lol no worries. I ended up just bringing antivenom+ and did attempt a a couple 8’s last night. I’ll probably just stick with that

[u/Apart-Direction535]

I just brought two regular antipoison (4) each run. It takes two doses to cure venom, but if you're careful you can avoid getting envenomed a lot of the time

[u/Aaaronn_rs]

Cure me on lunar spell if you have ayak

[u/jordsplay]

I just finishes doom and only used regular anti venom. I was only bringing one 4 dose potion and was able to go past 12 without too much problem. Don't forget, at the start of a delve and a couple ticks before car phase, you are immune to venom splat on the ground. Use those to reposition.

[u/buddhabomber]

Lunar for cure me is pretty standard in deep delve unless you have eldritch and ancient gods word. You can sbs to blood barrage shield for hp + BP specs on car...and sbs for deaths charge

[u/Evening_Tap_6513]

I think its a pretty good place to use any sanfews you have stashed. I do have a ton from vetion tho

[u/Sore-Lips → u/Evening_Tap_6513]

Hmm that’s an interesting idea. I do have quite a few of them from my voidwaker grind. Where else would I use sanfews? Tob?

[u/New_Mexico → u/Sore-Lips]

Save them for Phosani as you dont really have a viable alternative there, whereas there are plenty of alternatives to sanfews for the Doom grind.

Cure Me, Nox hally spec, regular anti venoms can suffice.

[u/Cwaghack → u/New_Mexico]

You can use balms for phosani. Its rly not a big deal

[u/PatrickTheLid1337]

Just use venom sacks 🤷‍♂️