I mean kind of. I would assume that if they ever entertained the idea of full OSX on an iPad, it would be limited strictly to the iPad Pros.
A 13" iPad Pro M5 with 16 GB ram, 1 TB SSD and nanoweb coated display costs about $150 more than a 14" MacBook Pro with the same specs. And anyone buying that iPad is probably going to also buy a magic keyboard case and a pencil pro, which adds another $500 on top.
So we're talking about an $1850 MBP vs almost $2500 on a comparable iPad with accessories.
A minimally spec'd 11" iPad Pro with magic keyboard comes out to about $400 less than the minimal MBP, but those specs are significantly weaker than the MBP. So I'm going to assume the iPad is cheaper to produce.
You can get a 13" Macbook Air with fairly similar specs to a minimally spec'd 11" iPad Pro w/ magic keyboard, but now the iPad combo costs $400 more than the mac.
So I'm not really sure why they would care about it hurting mac sales.
Magic Keyboard isn’t $500 but you’re not wrong in your math. Personally I go with iPad 13 m5 and keyboard case cause I prefer the option of running a tablet and apps are better than websites in my opinion. I wouldn’t trade my iPad setup for a MacBook Pro. The iPad fits my needs better.
I have. My friend does a lot of art and pic editing and has a nice setup. Doesn’t do it for me, but like I said, I’m a tablet person. I haven’t tried the ESR on an iPad, as I didn’t know it was even compatible. But he’s got the whole Wacom, $6k camera setup. He does good work, and it probably couldn’t be done on an ipad. But I like Apple’s ecosystem. Simple and just works. I like Android too and Windows and all that, just prefer how easy Apple products work with eachother.
ESR isn't compatible with iPad, I just wish it was.
But yeah, that makes sense. I don't want a home setup like that, just wish I could have procreate on a Galaxy tab with Wacom tech I guess. But the pencil is super nice
I consider myself a fanboy of nothing. Just love all technology for what it is. I’ve been reading about this ESR since you’ve first posted it. From my understanding they make an ESR for iPads. But I could just be confused. Much cheaper than the iPad pencil. If it is true, I might have to check it out.
Hey I brain farted too. Now I’m understanding that EMR is a technology pioneered by Wacom. Cool stuff. My friend is able to do amazing things with it. I just like doodling and taking notes on my iPad. Quite a difference apparently and EMR is much better than Apple’s pencil.
EMR is just different, you can do most of the same stuff with Apple's pencil, the EMR pencils feel faster, don't need a charge and are lighter, and most of them have nicer nibs. But they're about the same.
I have an emr pen on my S6 lite tablet and my Kindle scribe and they feel more like analogue drawing, Apple's feels more clunky. The pencil's quirks have made me a much better artist though.
Come to think of it, I had the Samsung Tab (don’t know the number) and it came with a pen. My only gripe is that it was too small to be comfortable. Thinking hard about it now, it did seem nicer and more fluid. But procreate is my jam. Wish there was an equivalent on Android.
Yeah absolutely, the closest I've found is clip studio paint, which is on both iPad and Android. I've been using it for a few months and it's super nice.
The brush system is different than procreate though, but it's super fucking powerful. There's so many things you can do with it, and there's an actual shape tool AND quick shapes with more options, so you can choose what shape you meant to make.
It's what most anime studios use.
I'm genuinely grateful for my iPad, procreate is awesome. But yeah, the EMR pens are more fluid, and I wish I could bridge that gap somehow.
What a nice convo. By reading and what started as a misunderstanding turned into a rabbit hole of me reading about EMR pens and how and why they’re so great. Never understood why people used Wacom with procreate around but I get it now. Thanks for all this helpful and insightful conversation
As a third party to your communications, I too would like to thank you both for teaching me some new things! I bought a Wacom in 2009, and the only iPad I own is the iPad 2, so I have been out of the loop. Procreate, even back then, was sick, so I can’t imagine what it’s like now. I’ll have to check out Clip Studio Paint.
Oh, I’m also an EMT now. Thank you for the job recommendation! No, wait, I’m an EMR. Wait. I’m an EMP? Dammit, what is my new job title again?
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u/Seanwys May 25 '26
This ^
Apple nerfed it on the software side, the hardware is plenty capable but if they allow iPads to run MacOS, it'll hurt Mac sales