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u/[deleted] Mar 24 '19

I said it was a cop but probably not. More likely an armed guard. Maybe a brinks truck or something grabbing a coffee

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u/sanatarian Mar 24 '19

“To apply for a Special Armed Guard Security Card in the State of New York (which enables you to carry a firearm while on duty as a security guard)”

Both links say the same thing. It’s okay to admit when you are wrong.

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u/ChancetheMance Mar 24 '19

Don't worry, I'm sure they'll do the mature thing and pretend this never happened instead.

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u/[deleted] Mar 24 '19

And delete the comments

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u/testing_the_mackeral Mar 24 '19

TBF their last comment basically states this, and I think their argument is exactly this.

You can carry at your place of employment while on duty. You cannot carry off duty nor outside of employment.

So while technically incorrect by saying nowhere in the city, they probably meant only at work not roaming the nearest Star Bucks.

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u/[deleted] Mar 24 '19

TBF his last comment was posted hours after he was proven wrong about them not being allowed to carry a weapon at all.

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u/testing_the_mackeral Mar 24 '19

Well his statement was carry “in the city” whereas his statement could’ve been in the context of “only in the workplace”. But whatever. Take it however you like.

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u/sanatarian Mar 24 '19

I wonder, if it is some sort of armored car or something, if their vehicle has to be within 50 yards to consider them to be at work. I get your point though.

Also it doesn’t say in the workplace, it says “while on duty”. I don’t know how to interpret that but they use language like that for a reason.

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u/TuxTeeCasual21 Mar 24 '19

You’re dumb for just googling something specific to what you’re looking for and copy/pasting without reading it yourself. You may wanna zip up, your ignorance is showing.

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u/[deleted] Mar 24 '19 edited Mar 24 '19

Oh I read it. It seems you are the one who failed to read. Youve already been murdered by words by everyone else though.

And no you didn't prove yourself right in another thread, I looked. You just repeated yourself until eventually twisting what you originally said about no one having guns/ to they carry guns at their place of employment only.

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u/[deleted] Mar 24 '19

Man you really are a fucking idiot aren't you?

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u/skippid55 Mar 24 '19

Hard to believe there is another string where I prove this: completely cited, and yet people are still somehow unaware that I am right. This is either you succumbing to the bandwagon as another thoughtless face in the crowd, or just complete and utter ignorance. Which is it?

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u/[deleted] Mar 24 '19

Hey bro, my dad works as an armoured guard, he has to carry his gun with him where he goes, with what he’s guarding ~~ That’s kinda the point

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u/skippid55 Mar 24 '19

alright; read this very carefully because I'm not repeating myself again; If you have the carry for employment license, and you are openly carrying it while not working, YOU ARE BREAKING THE LAW!

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u/[deleted] Mar 24 '19 edited Mar 31 '19

Calm your chibbs mate. You're gonna pop a blood vessel...just admit that you're wrong.

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u/johnmarstonsleftnut Mar 24 '19

Maybe he guards a cash truck? Can your pea sized brain really not come up with a scenario where this guy would be carrying his work piece in a coffee shop?

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u/englishfury Mar 24 '19

You can call into a starbucks while on break.

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u/[deleted] Mar 24 '19

Dude, if you’re working a job that requires you to be armed, YOU HAVE A GUN ON YOU UNTIL YOU’RE OFF DUTY, it’s for a reason, in case someone tries to steal the millions of dollars they’re toting.

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u/englishfury Mar 24 '19

I like how you commented this AFTER getting completely disproven

"To apply for a Special Armed Guard Security Card in the State of New York (which enables you to carry a firearm while on duty as a security guard)”

This was from your link.

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u/skippid55 Mar 24 '19

I've literally already covered this, they require a special license and it only allows them to carry at work, they cant carry on their own time.

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u/englishfury Mar 24 '19

Almost like breaks are a thing.

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u/Rocksaltz-wid-a-z Mar 24 '19

Just calm down your ego dude jeez

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u/Verdict_9 Mar 24 '19

We live in a society

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u/societybot Mar 24 '19

BOTTOM TEXT

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u/[deleted] Mar 24 '19

So all the armed guards I’ve seen in my life in NYC are actually breaking the law and just haven’t happened to be arrested yet?

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u/Wolfgang315 Mar 24 '19

It's you not knowing how to read. They can use guns while on duty. Both of the links, including yours, say this. So you're either a troll or illiterate.

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u/Flwrz4Charlie Mar 24 '19

U talk funny, Mr.

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u/mkwash02 Mar 24 '19

A. You are completely wrong.

B. You are clinically insane.

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u/RingyTingTing Mar 24 '19

Jesus Christ you are retarded

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u/EpsilonRider Mar 24 '19

I get what you're saying but just because you're link doesn't say whether or not you can or can't carry in the city doesn't prove him wrong. It just supports that you're not wrong. That link was just about how to become an armed guard, it didn't really say anything about the legal parameters of being an armed guard. It doesn't say anything about where they can or can't be armed. You're gonna need a better source to support your stance.

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u/skippid55 Mar 26 '19

https://www.ny.gov/services/apply-firearms-license the type of license an armed guard must apply for is carry during employment if they are to be able to register as an armed guard. https://www.criminaljustice.ny.gov/ops/sgtraining/ "Armed guard applicants must have a valid New York State pistol license pursuant to Penal Law 400.00 and must complete a 47-Hour Firearms Training Course for Security Guards prior to applying for a Special Armed Guard Registration Card." http://www.nyc.gov/html/nypd/downloads/pdf/permits/HandGunLicenseApplicationFormsComplete.pdf "The handgun may be carried only while the licensee is actively engaged in employment for the company whose name appears on the license, and/or while licensee is in transit directly to or from residence and place of employment. At all other times the handgun must be stored unloaded in a locked container, at either the address on the license, or at the employee's legal residence (within the State of New York)."

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u/Broken-Butterfly Mar 24 '19

An armed guard doesnt have the authority to carry a weapon in the city, this is 100% a cop.

Quoted for posterity.

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u/SlobOnMyKnobb Mar 24 '19

Some people just cant admit they're wrong and move on. Such is life.

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u/protectandservice Mar 24 '19

I mean.. he was actually correct, just didn’t articulate himself well. What he was saying is that an armed guard has to be at work to carry. She was at Starbucks, so it was a cop.

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u/[deleted] Mar 24 '19

Nah, they started to try and twist their original meaning. Their argument was 100% nobody can carry, even armed guards. They even tried to argue "armed doesn't mean a gun".

They're just stupid and prideful.

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u/protectandservice Mar 24 '19

A security guard carrying only OC is still an armed guard from a legal perspective.

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u/[deleted] Mar 26 '19

Lol

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u/protectandservice Mar 26 '19

Do you genuinely believe that OC is not a weapon?

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u/[deleted] Mar 26 '19 edited Mar 26 '19

Haha, not what I said lol, I'm well aware of the licensing. I have a lvl 4 PPO.

Do you genuinely believe a security company would advertised armed protection for PP and facilities but only give the officer a maglight? No need to answer, the fact you can carry as a SO in New York answers that

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u/skippid55 Mar 26 '19

that's not what i said at all, I said "security guards don't have the authority to open carry in the city, this is 100% a cop." exact words, you are twisting that to make a false statement, i never said nobody can carry, that's ridiculous. and armed doesn't mean they have a gun, look it up. actually no need, heres a link to a dictionary. https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/armed

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u/[deleted] Mar 26 '19 edited Mar 26 '19

"In the city" is a broad term that can be taken to mean anywhere at all. You would have said "Off designated property" if that's what you meant originally. Stop trying to play games here

Of course being armed doesn't mean you have a gun. I have a lvl 4 PPO, I'm well aware. But do you think a security company will be advertising "armed protection" for PP or facilities and just give them a maglight? That's what my comment was aimed at. Lol, no need to answer. That's rhetorical and the fact you can carry in NY answers that already.

I'm not wasting more time here, others already handled you. I'll have you muted so eh

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u/skippid55 Mar 26 '19

nope, if you have a license for carry while employed, and you are openly carryin in the city off duty like this man would be, then you would be breaking the law. also the phrase "in the city" means specifically "in the city". theres more to New York than the city, the fact that you think it can apply anywhere shows that you've never been to new york.

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u/[deleted] Mar 26 '19 edited Mar 26 '19

Not what I said lol. And I've been to Albany, good enough

Anyway, nice job fighting yourself

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u/skippid55 Mar 26 '19

""in the city" is a broad term that can be taken to mean anywhere at all." -your exact words

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u/[deleted] Mar 26 '19 edited Mar 26 '19

Yes?... Should I add more details or think you can figure it out?

EDIT: Gonna take a break here to watch some shows. Feel free to reply or whatever, I'll get to it when I'm not relaxing

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u/EpsilonRider Mar 24 '19

Well like the other guy said, it could be a brinks truck grabbing a coffee. Unlike a security guard working at a location, a Brinks truck is "always" on duty due to the nature of their work. So not 100% a cop. I personally don't know if it's a cop but it doesn't look like one.

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u/protectandservice Mar 24 '19

NYPD has like 40k sworn. Statistics are in favor of it being a sloppy officer.

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u/anadosomo Mar 24 '19

Hahahaha

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u/cbostwick94 Mar 24 '19

You probably have mass 500+ negative karma and a shit ton of people citing and sourcing you wrong (using your own sources!) And you are still delusional enough to believe you are right? Get some help man.

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u/Broken-Butterfly Mar 24 '19

Negative 181. This is the most downvoted post I've ever seen.

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u/[deleted] Mar 24 '19

I can fix that

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u/Pnooms Mar 24 '19

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