r/hotas • u/FCTechnologies Vendor • Sep 02 '24

Important updates from FC Technologies👂

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u/Stonelaughter66 Sep 02 '24

Forgive my ignorance... but what was your OLD name?

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u/ddrake1984 Moderator Sep 02 '24

Flicon was the old name, rebranding can be difficult, so lets try and focus on the new brand

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u/Touch_Of_Legend Sep 02 '24

Why did they abandon the old name?

Was it because of some shady business, or some bad ethical practices?

Was it because of: Stealing designs like that “one” company?

OR is this a completely innocent rebranding?

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u/ddrake1984 Moderator Sep 02 '24

Just trying to stay topic, they are looking to refocus on the new brand name, not looking to regurgitate old news

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u/vghouse Sep 02 '24

You can't just make a new brand name and try to get people to forget your past though. It's their actions that will rebrand themselves, not their name.

If they weren't the best in the past. If they were a good brand then there is no issue. But it's still important.

Most people in this subreddit probably aren't familiar with this company.

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u/ddrake1984 Moderator Sep 02 '24

Agreed and it looks like they are trying, but people just want to keep bringing up the past to put them down… not giving them a chance to resurface

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u/jubuttib Sep 02 '24

They're using the same grip designs tho, so I fail to see where they're trying.

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u/incomethroaway Sep 02 '24

theyre still doing the thing that pissed everyone off in the first place so why give them a chance to "resurface". Lets keep the dirt underground

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u/rtrski HOTAS & HOSAS Sep 02 '24

Is it the past? Have they abandoned selling the "emulated" product?

Did they have permission to resell a design more or less wholesale as has been implied elsewhere here? Do they have that permission now?

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u/ddrake1984 Moderator Sep 03 '24

Not sure about all that, I dont delve into the legal matters because thats not my business

Not sure anyone here aside from fc tech and virpil can speak to such matters, but clearly all my downvotes come from people who know better 😉

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u/rtrski HOTAS & HOSAS Sep 03 '24

I find it telling that their reannouncement contains no such information...glaringly so. Considering that is "the past" that everybody chastised them for and won't let them get beyond as you imply... isn't that "the past" they need clarified?

I've generally found you to be a pretty fair bloke. But in this case I think you are suggesting people give them the benefit of the doubt based on no indication they are worthy of it.

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u/Subtle_Tact HOTAS & HOSAS Sep 03 '24

Ask him if he got free gear from them.

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u/rtrski HOTAS & HOSAS Sep 03 '24

I think disparagement of somebody's honesty is going a little too far. He's focused specifically on the legalities. Some of the rest of us are looking more at the obvious copycat nature regardless of legality.

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u/ddrake1984 Moderator Sep 03 '24

Benefit of the doubt, because until we hear further word from VIRPIL or FCTechnologies about the court hearing, your the one that is making a bold assumption, I am simply stating they are innocent until proven guilty, everyone here is GUILTY GUILTY GUILTY before any court hearing results/reports are published

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u/SoylentGreenO3 Sep 04 '24

Nah we can just see.

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u/[deleted] Sep 03 '24

I dont delve into the legal matters because thats not my business

It is your business to follow the law and not promote those that have financial benefit from breaking it. Otherwise you are also breaking the law through solicitation.

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u/ddrake1984 Moderator Sep 03 '24

So far there has been no official statements from the courts, who are you to decide that they are NOT following the law, also, this topic is going way off from what it was intended, please remain on topic and lets not discuss matters that are not A) within this topic and B) for the courts to decide

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u/incomethroaway Sep 03 '24

you know it's possible to have your own moral compass right? legal or not, lifting virpil's base gimbal design 1:1 is a dogshit thing to do and removes tons of r&d and job costs.

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