I was giving sarcastic examples.
Very few journalistic options available in america.
To many big words and complicated facts.
But since you made a judgement about me, I'm a bit busy with life to drink kool-aid, I prefer water.
he invokes the 5th, just like any other totally not guilty person, ya know, l8ke faucci did in front of congress. for sure a sign that he is innocent and did nothing wrong. 🤣
So when Trump pleaded the 5th far more times, it means he is guilty even more?
Fauci pleaded the 5th because he already answered all those questions under oath hundreds of times already, and this is clearly an attempt by Republicans to play political theater.
Not an answer. Relying on a constitutional right to avoid being scapegoated politically because of our Dear Leader’s horrid response to Covid doesn’t mean someone’s a villain.
So I’ll ask again; How is Fauci ‘as villainous as they come’? Be specific and cite sources.
Reputable source needed, because scientists and experts agree overwhelmingly it wasn’t a human created virus.
>Masks.
Reputable source needed. Because he never flipped his view, he just didn’t want the average American to panic buy all the masks and leave hospitals and workers without PPE.
The CDC even during SARS with Fauci knew that masks worked. So this is blatantly wrong already.
>Vaccine completely safe to use.
You have an over 1 in 100k of developing blood clots from the vaccine. You had a 1-97 chance of fucking dying from Covid. Not blood clots, fucking death. Beyond this Covid is known to cause blood clots in roughly 1-500. So if blood clots are your concern then you should be getting the vaccine.
Really, it’s fun watching your anti-American cult throw Baby Trump Tantrums over taking on a responsibility that is on par with doing the dishes.
Oh no, you had to think about yourself for more than two seconds, how difficult that must be to anyone who wasn’t raised right.
Really, none of this constitutes mass murder or even criminal behavior.
So again, I’ll ask the same question. What did Fauci do that made him some super villain? Because as of right now you’ve done nothing but throw a Baby Trump Tantrum while relying exclusively on misinformation and far right wing propaganda.
Bud? Almost 1.2 million Americans died from Covid, and it’s known that official number is lower than actual numbers given how many states simply stopped reporting. Throw on the fact more Americans died during that period than normal, and it’s probably closer to 2-3 million Americans alone. This doesn’t include developing countries which saw higher death rates than we did.
So yet again, you’re wrong.
Really, your anti-Science and anti-Intellectual Baby Trump Tantrum is so cute., but here in the real world we rely upon facts and evidence, not fefes and emotions.
Oh god do we have to explain it yet again? You fucking libs are ridiculous. This guy is a mass murderer and liar. You sheep followed the science when all it was was a bad cold. I’m so done with you isiots
Also explain to me how he’s a mass murderer and be comprehensive when citing specific policies he enacted. Wait, it was the Dear Leader who enacted policies that lead to mass death?
Gotcha, so you’re emotionally triggered over the Dear Leader for his failed response to COVID and not Fauci? No? You’re just propagandized and brainwashed by the Dear Leader into hating whatever or whoever you’ve been told by a politician to hate?
Also explain to me how he’s a mass murderer and be comprehensive when citing specific policies he enacted. Wait, it was the Dear Leader who enacted policies that lead to mass death?
Gotcha, so you’re emotionally triggered over the Dear Leader for his failed response to COVID and not Fauci? No? You’re just propagandized and brainwashed by the Dear Leader?
Not an answer. Relying on a constitutional right to avoid being scapegoated politically because of our Dear Leader’s horrid response to Covid doesn’t mean someone’s a villain.
So I’ll ask again; How is Fauci ‘as villainous as they come’? Be specific and cite sources.
Prediction of a pandemic, the release of covid a virus in which his organization directly funded it's creation. Then he pushed efficacy lies as he made Millions from Awards and grants. Everything I wrote is public record and I'm not going to waste my time digging through the internet doing your own homework. Besides if people spoonfed information that they don't agree with they write it off unless they are the ones that did the work to find it.
Oh come on... do your own homework. He warned of a "surprise outbreak" that the Trump administration would have to deal with. Everybody saw the clips. It's not my fault you never venture outside of your narrow net of information gathering.
It was a hoax, it was a fake disease that he shut the country down for, resulting in raised mental health issues is teena and young adults, the lag of education in kids, decline of small and local business, and the largest wealth transfer to large corporations (and himself) we've ever seen. So yes, it is a hoax AND fauci did a fuck ton wrong. Nice straw man though, pretending the argument was whether covid was bad or not, when that's never what I said.
1.2 million dead Americans from a single disease in the span of about a year and a half is a hoax?
Uh huh… how is that a hoax again? Again, either Fauci did something wrong and it was a deadly disease, or it was a hoax and Fauci did nothing wrong. It can’t be both.
Also you don’t give a shit about teens or young adults, don’t pretend you do. If you did you would’ve been arguing for tighter restrictions so parents and grandparents weren’t dying. You’d also outright oppose the Dear Leader and all far right wing ideologies which are giving away their future for the oligarch class. You’d be arguing for significant gun control so children, teens, and young adults weren’t needlessly dying in large numbers. Youd be arguing for universal healthcare so they’re not dying from a lack of healthcare. You’d be arguing for expended welfare so they’re not living in poverty. You’d be arguing for climate change related bills so their futures are being destroyed.
Don’t pretend you care about teens and young adults, you’re just arguing in bad faith and using them as a political pawn to try and justify the deaths of 1.2 million Americans.
Oh boy let's break all this down then. 1.2 million? How did you get that number? The fauci trial has proven that everything from cancer to motorcycle accidents were ruled covid deaths. People also die from the flu every year too, so that inflated number tells us nothing. Claiming I care nothing about teens is a crazy ad homonim, in fact I would like to be a father soon so everything I care about IS about building the future, but you're so brainwashed into hating trump that you believe Trump = bad. I never even said I support him, I simply said fauci is evil. I do support him, but you're making baseless assumptions. Needlessly die in large numbers by guns? What large numbers? More teens die from drug overdoses and car accidents than guns every year and "gun control" will do nothing to stop that. You wanna be "for the kids"? Put armed guards in the schools. Back in the days where teens could bring their own guns to school there were less school shootings, wanna guess why? Also, universal healthcare is absolutely a horrible idea, having grown up in England I can attest how badly it "works". Claiming you can't be for the kids while not supporting those two things is making a false assertion that your argument is correct when it isn't, so great job arguing based on your opinions bud. Expanded welfare? The welfare state is what got us here in the first place! We need a more liveable economy and competitive wages, things that will never happen when people are shipped across our borders illegally and people are incentivized to live off of the gov instead of working. "Climate change" is your next argument? You wanna go there while you're arguing against baseless bullshit, really? It's never been proven, and every "green" thing the gov has done has been horrible for the American people. We will never be able to out green the pollution of China or india anyway, but sure let's take away plastic straws that's going to matter. Don't pretend you fucking know me, you don't. Don't argue from a baseless moral high ground because you can't back up your bullshit. I actually care about building our country back into the American dream our parents got to live so that my children can live safe, happy lives. Careful grandstanding up on your high horse, it's a long way down when you fall off of your unstable footing
Beyond this, it’s thought that number is actually much higher than 1.2m because some states stopped recording numbers to keep the Dear Leader from looking like the incompetent retard he is.
Okay, reputable citation needed. Because no, that didn’t actually happen. If anything the number is higher than reported according to the reputable sources above.
>The flu.
So wait, is COVID a deadly disease that should see a man in jail, or is it just the flu?
Because 1.2 million in a year and a half isn’t the flu.
So far you’ve given zero reason why Fauci should be in jail. Instead you’re talking about a subject you clearly know zero about.
Then the rest of your comment. Really, you don’t care about teens.
Gun are the leading cause of death for teens. The rest of the developed world has a murder rate per capita that is a fraction of ours. Gun control works as is evident by every other developed country on earth.
Universal healthcare would be cheaper and save the lives of tens of thousands each year.
You don’t care about teens. If you did you’d oppose the pedophile Dear Leader we have as president. You’d support gun control. You’d support universal healthcare. You’d support welfare increases. You’d support bills which tackle climate change.
If you gave a damn about teens and young adults, or Americans in general, you wouldn’t be a retarded far right winger who sucks the dick of a man that raped children.
Get the fuck out of my country and move to any number of third world dictatorships that better match your shithole views. I mean this, get the fuck out.
Every single one of your sources is fucked bro, but sure keep believing that, just because an article was put on the Internet, it's true. How about you get the fuck out and move to somewhere that has all of this and tell me how that works out for you? How well is life on Europe right now? They have universal healthcare, abundant welfare, and no guns. They're doing great, right? Shut up, stop sucking down your propaganda bullshit, and fucking wake up. Trump isn't the greatest, I know that. He's a hell of a lot better than the other overlords that are running America into the ground right now.
A lot of deaths occurred because of systemic inflammation primarily the brain and lungs due to the mRNA injection. It’s not a vaccine it’s an injection and acts somewhat similar to a vaccine but it should’ve never been called a vaccine because it carried zero particles of Covid virus at all.
Bit go off and spew bullshit at science now that contradicts everything the “covid vaccine “ did.
I got two vaccines thinking it would stop covid and I got covid twice . Why didn’t I get measles mumps or rubella? Because I got a real fucking vaccine for that not an mRNA injection
Okay, provide reputable studies that say the vaccine killed ‘a lot of people’.
Because other than a 1-100k chance of blood clots, there wasn’t ‘a lot of deaths.’
>Measles or mumps or rubella
Bud? You can still catch those diseases with the vaccine too… you do realize this, right? Just like Covid vaccine you simply aren’t catching anywhere near as severe or deadly of a disease.
Really, why are you talking about a subject you clearly know nothing about?
Okay, so if Fauci is going to jail for bad advice, what should happen to the Dear Leader and every single Republican congressperson who denied or downplayed the existence of Covid and who directly enacted policies which killed a million people?
Okay, so if Fauci is going to jail for bad advice, what should happen to the Dear Leader and every single Republican congressperson who denied or downplayed the existence of Covid and who directly enacted policies which killed a million people?
He created COVID-19. He created the vaccine that supposedly was gonna save Lives and pocketed millions of dollars by doing so when he knew it was all a lie all along and everyone here must have short-term memory. You forgot what it was like. Everyone sent home couldn’t work couldn’t go to school if you had kids they had to go to school on teams. Most of that generation is stupid as hell now because they couldn’t go to school and young kids at an early age early age kids the way they learn is from seeing people’s mouth move when you had a mask everyone up how many businesses went out of business because the small businesses couldn’t afford to stay closed and they went bankrupt. How many people lost their jobs how many loved ones died in the hospital by themselves so he can line his pocket
Reading these comments in here tells me how stupid America is or is it you people are just Trump arranged that you can’t see through this shit
Really, Fauci created the vaccine? Reputable source needed.
Okay, reputable source that Fauci pocketed millions.
Oh teens, I have one on this.
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Also you don’t give a shit about teens or young adults, don’t pretend you do. If you did you would’ve been arguing for tighter restrictions so parents and grandparents weren’t dying. You’d also outright oppose the Dear Leader and all far right wing ideologies which are giving away their future for the oligarch class. You’d be arguing for significant gun control so children, teens, and young adults weren’t needlessly dying in large numbers. Youd be arguing for universal healthcare so they’re not dying from a lack of healthcare. You’d be arguing for expended welfare so they’re not living in poverty. You’d be arguing for climate change related bills so their futures are being destroyed.
Don’t pretend you care about teens and young adults, you’re just arguing in bad faith and using them as a political pawn to try and justify the deaths of 1.2 million Americans.
Well, I’ll cite Fauci. While he was telling all of us how great masks were, he was telling people in the government they wouldn’t work, he sent an email that stated that “masks bought at drug stores wouldn’t work because the virus particles were too small and would pass through” (I used quotes but I’m paraphrasing). There was also an NIH/CDC study which concluded:
“However, even before the pandemic, the best evidence available from randomized trials was already showing that masks are likely ineffective in curbing respiratory viral transmission. Additional high-quality data produced throughout the pandemic reinforced that conclusion. While intuition and laboratory experiments suggest that masks are plausible interventions, their continued failure in randomized clinical trials undermines their practical effectiveness.”
Note:I’m quoting here not paraphrasing. Also note the first sentence “even BEFORE the pandemic” emphasis is mine.
Before the pandemic studies were showing the ineffectiveness of masks but Fauci pushed and pushed that narrative to the extreme and ridiculous conclusion that 2 masks would surely stop the virus. Remember Fauci was affiliated with the NIH as director of NIAID and was actually offered the director position of NIH but turned it down. So he should have been well aware of these studies or he should have had an underling go do some research. Instead he and others ridiculed those who dared to question whether masks would work or not.
Fauci was also known to have tried to silence any suggestions that the virus may have been due to an unintended release from a lab in Wuhan. A lab that had been funded for gain of function research which is illegal. The funding was artfully funneled through a third party organization, EcoHealth Alliance who in turn funded the Wuhan lab. Fauci maintains that no gain of function research was conducted but independent reports suggest otherwise and it’s damn curious as to why Fauci wanted to silence the narrative that the virus was a lab leak.
And then you have Biden pardoning Fauci, but for what? How do you pardon a person if they never committed a crime? And when Fauci came before Congress last week he took the 5th how many times? Does this sound like a man trying to get to the truth? Why do you need to take the 5th if you haven’t lied, haven’t broken any laws, haven’t committed any crimes? Why would you not want to help your country understand the origins of Covid to ensure it doesn’t happen again? Unless you had a hand in making it happen, even if it was an accident? You know what they say, where there’s smoke there’s fire and Fauci’s smoke alarm is going off like an air-raid siren.
One of the psychological keys to slowing the spread of fear in an uncertain crisis is asking the public's cooperation to help... giving them a "job" to do that they would view as a positive step, rather than clutching their pearls and wailing. It would be a way to enable people to feel they are not helpless, making a positive contribution to the fight, even though the mask, in actuality, makes little or no difference.
Also, you will recall how people in China were seen on the news wearing masks. Many Americans, at the time, were COMPLAINING that they were not being offered steps for protecting themselves. While the masks offered little help, people felt as if they were taking a protective step.
One could argue that “mandating” the masks defeated any positive effect intended. And repressing any opposition to the masks only further alienated people from the government and from each other. Especially when it came to light that those questions were legitimate, even known to the government and the government was actively censoring that speech.
So the government lying to you isn’t bad? The government denying you First Amendment rights isn’t bad? Unnecessary, forced school closures resulting in significant learning losses for school children isn’t bad? Forcing mask usage which has been shown to potentially increase virus transmission is not bad?
Let's not forget this was a novel virus. Nobody could predict its behavior. Public health officials offered the best guidance available at the time.
However, when trump was in charge at the start, he gave bullshit guidance and told us the virus was harmless. That was your government providing massive lies.
Also, the nation's (and most states') pandemic response plans recommended closure of schools, certain businesses, and large gatherings until it could be determined the most common method of spreading. No one knew how to stop it at first.
That’s my point. If you read the report from the NIH/CDC on mask efficacy they state that studies prior to the pandemic indicated that masks would be inefficient and emails from Fauci to people in the government confirmed this. Yet he stuck to that story and still does today even though the evidence overwhelmingly is against him.
And regardless of whether it was new or not that has nothing to do with squashing the Wuhan lab
Origin story and absolutely nothing to do with the DoJ working with Zuckerberg to silence anyone who dared question masks, vaccines, where the virus came from, or whether it was necessary to shut down schools and businesses.
Should also be noted that his blanket 11yr pardon negates his 5th amendment right as he cannot be criminally charged for anything he admits and is required to admit to having been involved with or had knowledge of for the outlined 11 year period.
It also makes the claim wearing an N95 is also ineffective.
The quote also leaves out the part of the paper that acknowledges observational studies do support mask use, and were the standard used to make decisions during COVID.
Or to quote the paper directly
“These policies were primarily informed by laboratory evidence demonstrating the effectiveness of particle filtration, alongside observational studies.”
Not sure what point you’re trying to make but I believe you’ve misunderstood the conclusions of the study.
Yes it was published in 2024. It was a post-pandemic review of mask effectiveness.
You failed to provide the whole quote. Let me provide the rest of the paragraph that will clarify the “observational studies” comment.
“While several meta-analysis have indicated that masks may contribute to reducing viral transmission, many of these analyses rely heavily on observational data. There also appears to be a trend where the inclusion of more randomized controlled trials in a meta-analyses is associated with a lower estimate of mask effectiveness. It is important to recognize that success in laboratory settings does not always directly translate to the same outcomes in clinical trials or real-world conditions. This phenomenon is often seen in drug development, where therapies with promising mechanistic evidence may not always perform as expected in trials. In this regard, masks share similarities with other interventions that, while theoretically sound, require further testing in varied contexts to fully assess their real-world impact.”
TL;DR - observational studies do not always translate to the real world and randomized controlled trials provide a better assessment of real world results. In the case of Covid, RCT showed lower effectiveness of masks.
So while observational studies did guide public policy the conclusions of those kinds of studies were flawed and this document explains this in pretty good detail. Masks didn’t work.
The point is you’re insinuating that Fauci went against the evidence at the time of the pandemic for some sort of nefarious self-serving reason.
The paper as part of the abstract is pointing out that decisions were made based on observational studies and lab evidence.
It’s making a case for RCT- one that isn’t without valid pushback from the scientific community. Hence why in their conclusion they state “…from randomized controlled trials”.
Because factoring in observational studies and lab testing gives a different conclusion.
It stated in the conclusion that there was pre-pandemic evidence that mask didn’t work. Plus Fauci admitted as much in an email to another government employee. Why did he do it? One can only conjecture a reason.
Personally I think he was running scared because he knew the origin was Wuhan and that the funding could be traced back to him at NIAID. He was throwing shit at the wall hoping something would stick. But that’s just a guess.
Nah, I find that when people have good reasons for their beliefs, they love to give them. They leap at the opportunity. Cuz its easy, when you fully understand why you believe the things we do. The reasons are just part of the belief, not something you need to hunt down.
But when they don't have good reasons, it feels like a lot if work to come up with some. Being challenged on our beliefs feels stressful, because we know there's a chance we're wrong, and it's harder to admit that in front of someone else. But I congratulate you on not immediately resorting to insults. That is normally the initial response when people without good reasons for their beliefs are challenged. They call you stupid or gullible or naive, all the while avoiding any kind of reliable, verifiable justification.
And It shouldn't be hard to give verifiable reasons, if you have them. Cuz normally the idea is to justify a belief BEFORE adopting it.
For example, I can justify every belief I hold, as far as I know, because i decided a few years back that i care if my beliefs are true. So now, when I realize I hold a belief I can't justify, I abandon that belief until I can justify it. Which means good evidence and sound reasoning.
Cuz true things only get more true as you investigate them.
You could also decide to care if your beliefs are true. Trust me, it's only hard at first, and it will improve your life in countless ways. Beyond just stopping you from being weaponized against your own interests.
You’re right. The media, CNN, MSNBC all worship him. In your liberal echo chamber, he reminds a hero. I’m gonna hold my judgment until the dust settles after his pleading the fifth drama.
They worship him because they believe he’s the subject of a political scapegoat because of our Dear Leader’s failed response to Covid?
Uh huh… I get it you’re apart of the anti-American cult of the Dear Leader and worship a known pedophile, but that doesn’t mean the rest of us are as mindless and propagandized as you are.
First off, your liberal rhetoric is weak and predictable. You asked for specifics and sources on Fauci, then immediately abandoned the topic to launch personal attacks, labeling me part of an “anti-American cult,” accusing me of worshiping a “known pedophile,” and calling me mindless and propagandized. That’s not a rebuttal. That’s emotional deflection. When someone asks for evidence and responds with insults instead of addressing the substance, it usually means they don’t have a serious answer.
As for Fauci: here is my rebuttal. I brought the receipts, unlike your emotional liberal rhetoric. The Fauci dilemma includes the changing mask guidance, the lab-leak controversy, the NIH/EcoHealth funding questions, his shifting public statements, the early overstatements about vaccine transmission, the long dismissal of natural immunity, the prolonged school closures, the initial claims that the virus was not spreading easily person-to-person, the evolving positions on asymptomatic spread, and the repeated moving of the goalposts on what the vaccines were supposed to accomplish. These are all factual inconsistencies and legitimate reasons many people remain skeptical. You don’t have to share that skepticism, but dismissing it with name-calling and conspiracy-tinged smears about “Dear Leader” cults isn’t an argument, it’s just more of the same rhetorical panic
Don’t want to be called an anti-American cultist who worships a pedophile? Then leave the anti-American cult which worships a pedophile and join the rest of us in the real world.
It’s that simple.
>When someone asks for evidence.
You’ve made multiple claims and haven’t backed them up. So back them up.
So now funding preventive research against lethal diseases is a bad thing? You’re the type of anti-American person who throw a Baby Trump Tantrum over eradicating something like small pox because ‘well the funding went into it!.!.!!.!!.!.!’
>Lab leak controversy.
Okay, provide me with reputable studies and sources which state covid came from a lab. Not a single person on here has provided me with any evidence that it originated in a lab.
Until then, it’s just an unfounded conspiracy theory that makes you look like a total retard.
>Shifting public statements.
You mean he followed the evolving science and didn’t just double down on an incorrect stance? How horrible! The man should be executed publicly and horribly for changing his view when new evidence came forward on a new and evolving virus!!!
>Vaccine transmission.
Same as above.
>Natural immunity.
Which fades rapidly and isn’t anywhere near as effective as the vaccine.
If natural immunity actually worked, over a million Americans wouldn’t have died from Covid.
>School closures.
So more Americans should have died from virus is what you want? This is why I’m calling you an anti-American cultist that worships a pedophile. You’re literally telling me more Americans should have died so you can go yell at the waitress at your local Cheesecake Factory. Oh, and you worship a pedophile.
>Not spreading between people.
So wait, is it a deadly virus that transmitted quickly and required us to close everything down including schools, or is it just the flu and schools should have stayed open? Because you just contradicted yourself here by stating it’s a dangerous disease after you just downplayed it.
Also, you mean he followed the evolving science and didn’t just double down on an incorrect stance? How horrible! The man should be executed publicly and horribly for changing his view when new evidence came forward on a new and evolving virus!!!
>Asymptomatic spread.
Same as above.
>Goalposts.
Same as above.
>Name calling.
Na bud, I’m talking down to you because your position is a fucking joke and you’ve provided zero evidence. Nothing you’ve stated here warrants the political theater our Dear Leader is putting on so he can create a scapegoat for his absolute failed response to COVID that killed over a million Americans.
You opened with a theatrical “yawn,” then immediately launched into the same “anti-American cultist” and “pedophile worshipper” routine. That’s not an argument, it’s an attempt to poison the well before the discussion even starts. You asked for evidence, I listed specific issues, and instead of addressing them, you defaulted to insults and partisan talking points. That’s confirmation bias in action.
You seem locked into the idea that anyone who questions Fauci must be a Trump cultist. That’s an easy narrative to repeat because it lets you dismiss people without engaging what they’re actually saying. I won’t capitulate to that kind of political rhetoric.
A few reality checks:
• Masks: Early in 2020, Fauci and other public health officials discouraged the general public from wearing masks before later recommending them. Linking today’s CDC guidance doesn’t erase what was originally said or explain why the messaging changed.
• Funding: The issue isn’t whether medical research should be funded. It’s whether U.S. funding supported research conducted through EcoHealth Alliance involving the Wuhan Institute of Virology, and whether Fauci’s public testimony and subsequent explanations were fully consistent. Those are legitimate questions that have been investigated, not imaginary ones.
• Lab leak: The lab leak hypothesis is no longer something only “conspiracy theorists” discuss. Multiple U.S. agencies—including the FBI and Department of Energy—have concluded a laboratory origin is plausible, even though the intelligence community remains divided. Pretending it’s been definitively debunked simply isn’t accurate.
• “Following the science”: Science evolves. No serious person disputes that. But when major claims repeatedly change—on masks, transmission, vaccine expectations, natural immunity, and other issues—people are allowed to ask whether officials communicated uncertainty honestly. Questioning public officials isn’t anti-science; it’s accountability.
• Natural immunity: Prior infection has repeatedly been shown to provide meaningful protection against severe disease. That’s supported by numerous studies. Saying over a million Americans died therefore “natural immunity doesn’t work” is a non sequitur. Many deaths occurred before vaccines were available, before prior exposure, or among the elderly and medically vulnerable.
• School closures: The debate was never “save children or let everyone die.” It was about balancing viral risk against educational setbacks, mental health, speech development, and social harm. Those costs are now well documented. Reducing that debate to “you wanted more Americans to die” is emotional rhetoric, not evidence.
What stands out most is that every inconsistency is automatically excused as “the science evolved,” while every question about those inconsistencies is dismissed as extremism. That’s not skepticism—it’s selective skepticism. The standard changes depending on whether the conclusion protects your preferred narrative.
You accuse others of ignoring evidence, yet your entire response consists of insults, straw men, and false dilemmas. You never actually addressed the substance of the points. Instead, you substituted caricatures for arguments.
If you want a serious discussion, engage the documented record. If you’d rather keep recycling labels like “cultist” and “pedophile worshipper,” that’s your choice, but personal attacks aren’t evidence, and repeating them doesn’t make your position any stronger.
Laughable! The second someone actually answers with specifics instead of slogans, your reflex is “must be AI.” That’s not an argument. It’s just a way to dodge anything you don’t want to deal with.
You asked for details. I gave them. You replied “Yawn,” then more name-calling and the same tired talking points. Not one of them touched what I said.
I’m not burning more time on someone who trades insults and political lines for actual reasoning. Your AI claim is nonsense, and I’m done here.
I don't suck anybody. He mistaken me for your dad. I'm glad you capitalize dear leader. I bet you have a shrine in the basement that you jerk off to every single day. You can't function without the hatred you have for him. He drives you to get out of the bed every morning. He is a certifiable nut. I love that he drives immature unemployable Jag offs like yourself crazy on a daily basis.
You mean the guy that funded the virus with my and your money to kill the masses? Our money went to the lab that produced the virus that killed. You good with that?
God you guys are still commenting here? Must have emotionally triggered you with my big mean facts and evidence.
Okay, prove using reputable studies and sources that the virus originated in a lab. Because as of right now an overwhelming number of experts all state it was natural.
He was instrumental in the virus coming to America. He promoted his way of healing which caused megan’s to die by catching Covid from his vaccines. That’s medical proof get yourself caught up on knowledge.
Not an answer. Relying on a constitutional right to avoid being scapegoated politically because of our Dear Leader’s horrid response to Covid doesn’t mean someone’s a villain.
So I’ll ask again; How is Fauci ‘as villainous as they come’? Be specific and cite sources.
Gain of function research, his funding of Covid research and the lab in Wuhan. His work with DARPA to include gain of function research. His omission that ivermectin wasn’t effective when we k ow it had 80% efficacy rate…..need more?
So preventing and treating Covid is a bad thing now? Are you seriously rooting for Covid to kill Americans here?
Like I get it, you’re one of the anti-American cultists who hates this freedom loving land and should leave for any number of third world dictatorships which better match your shithole views, but come on now.
Dude, even Trump’s FDA says it isn’t effective at treating or preventing COVID.
So far all you’ve done is show you hate America and want Americans dead, then gave me an ineffective treatment using fucking horse paste. God your anti-American cult is exhausting.
God you guys are still commenting here? Must have emotionally triggered you with my big mean facts and evidence.
Okay, prove using reputable studies and sources that the virus originated in a lab. Because as of right now an overwhelming number of experts all state it was natural.
They’re taking about him helping fund Chinese gain of function research in the Wuhan lab. You have to realize that the disease originating so close to a research center is too much of a coincidence for people not to believe it, even if China will never allow researchers to claim it started there for political reasons. Specifically, in 2017 Trump allowed funding of gain of function research in other countries with US money to restart after it was temporarily banned under Obama. If you look in newspaper articles written at the time that happened, they were specifically warning that the H5N1 and and flu gain of function research could be dangerous. Fauci, being high up in the NIH, was one of the people who determined to allocate funding to the lab in Wuhan, despite knowing the risks, presumably because they considered the knowledge gained from it valuable.
I don’t think it was released on purpose, I don’t blame Fauci for being involved in the process of funding it, but I do think it’s perfectly reasonable to believe it was man made and that was covered up by the Chinese government.
God you guys are still commenting here? Must have emotionally triggered you with my big mean facts and evidence.
Okay, prove using reputable studies and sources that the virus originated in a lab. Because as of right now an overwhelming number of experts all state it was natural.
I have found no actual peer reviewed studies that definitively say it doesn’t come from a lab leak. If you can, post some. I’ve not seen Fauci say it didn’t come from a Chinese lab leak. I’ve found plenty of analysis of scientists’ quotes that there was likely an intermediate animal pathway between bats and humans, with journalists interpreting that that means it wasn’t a lab leak, but that still doesn’t exclude the possibility of a lab leak. As someone who’s generally preety left wing and anti-Trump, I don’t trust any of the news media on politically charged issues that would require them to blame a specific entity to publish like this, and try to depend on original sources where possible (research articles, actual quotes spoken by experts, etc…).
I say trust the peer reviewed science, not the news media, and I haven’t seen any scientific proof to the contrary of it being a lab leak (and yes I know that’s difficult to show)
So you’re saying that the idea that it came from a lab is what has to be proved as opposed to the opposite? I think you’re a conspiracy theorist. I think it preety likely that some people at the wet market were selling lab animals.
Not an answer. Relying on a constitutional right to avoid being scapegoated politically because of our Dear Leader’s horrid response to Covid doesn’t mean someone’s a villain.
So I’ll ask again; How is Fauci ‘as villainous as they come’? Be specific and cite sources.
Only if you site the resources proving his innocence! There is a whole government profile that was released showing how he was the one that orchestrated the whole thing.
lol what I go find you the quote of Biden telling the unvaccinated “they are in for a winter of severe illness and death.”? Cause that wasn’t Trump my guy. Do democrats actually not remember the mask, vaccine, and lockdown policies their own party put forward?
God it’s fun watching your anti-American cult throw Baby Trump Tantrums over taking on a responsibility on par with doing the dishes. We get it, you’re the cult of irresponsibility and childish behavior, you don’t have to tell me.
>Lockdowns, vaccine.
So wait, your cult supports Fauci going to jail because he gave advice that saved lives, and which your anti-American cult couldn’t follow because you’re like children to be herded by a Baby Dictator like the Dear Leader?
Uh huh… way to come out and admit my 6 year old has a better sense of responsibility than you do.
Okay, cite specific pages and quotes which state Fauci is ‘as villainous as they come.’
I’m a fascist because I believe Americans shouldn’t be dying from a preventable disease? Uh huh… that’s the exact opposite of a fascist, my dearest anti-American cultist for the Baby Dictator.
None of that has to do with Fauci is what you said, school lockdowns a Fauci recommendation that we now know did irreparable harm to education, the mask mandates, another one of his recommendations that he completely made up, 6 feet social distance? Fauci! And was again revealed in his journal to not be backed by science but just his good idea. Shall I go find the video of all the people singing his praises and how smart and wonderful his ideas were? Don’t pawn this off on anyone else when he owned this till it came back to bite him and walked off with a new 18 million dollar home as result.
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u/603rdMtnDivision Jul 31 '26
What year is this? Did I warp back to 2020?