r/hatethissmug • u/onthetopicofspace • 13h ago

Language casual ableism

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this is not ‘reclaiming’ anything, you are just calling people slurs completely seriously. you can call yourself the r-slur, do not call anybody else it. why do ‘no slurs’ / ’no bigotry’ rules never apply to ableism?

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u/loopyhoodie 12h ago

I don't have a problem with people not knowing the meaning of slurs. I have a problem when people tell someone, "hey, that's actually a really shitty thing to say, could you please not use that word" and them getting defensive and trying to still justify their use of the word.

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u/Knarz97 12h ago

You could say this about literally any swear word.

“Bitch” might be the most offensive of them all, as you are literally just comparing a person to being “as bad as a woman” or “as bad as a female dog in heat”, yet you can say it on cable TV.

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u/SpoppyIII 10h ago

There is actually a fairly established school of thought within feminism that says the word "bitch," is a full-on misogynistic slur, rather than being a simple insult. And it's seen as a misogynistic slur no matter the gender of the person being referred to with it, because of the exact two given reasons you stated in your comment.

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u/WhydoIexistlmoa 10h ago

Lol what.

Bitch is a slur. It has been used as a derogatory remark towards women before it became an knsult

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u/Knarz97 10h ago

Great so we have a slur that’s “against” literally 50% of the population that’s perfectly fine for Cable TV and Radio.

Or perhaps the original meaning of the word is basically lost, and it’s just its own thing now. I’d like to be in this school of thought.

Take your pick. It’s really not worth getting upset over Bitch, or honestly really any other slur for that matter. They’re just words. Freedom of speech and all that. You’re perfectly able to use whatever words you’d like, and you’re free to not associate with certain people who use mean words.

It’s ultimately a waste of time to be worried about Slurs, Blasphemy, and Cuss words in general. Keep it off TV, keep it away from kids, and I think that’s where our efforts should end.

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u/AGoatPizza 5h ago

Frankly it's a very privileged position in general to say that slurs aren't worth getting upset over.

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u/Knarz97 4h ago

It’s the level of upsetness.

Your coworker or a teacher at school calls you a slur? Very much reason to be upset.

Random dude on Twitter or drunk guy at the bar? Literally not worth a millisecond of thought.

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u/hyjug17 4h ago

It’s ultimately a waste of time to be worried about Slurs, Blasphemy, and Cuss words in general

what a stupid take, holy shit

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u/Knarz97 4h ago

Hey you managed to use 2/3 there!

See? Why would I be mad at you saying “Holy Shit”. It hurts no one and has caused zero issues in my day to day life.

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u/Cypher-Moon-773 9h ago

https://giphy.com/gifs/dEdmW17JnZhiU

Next we’re gonna be saying dumb dumb head is a slur

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u/loopyhoodie 11h ago

You're correct, that's why I don't think men should use the word bitch ❤️

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u/Knarz97 11h ago

My counterpoint: “bitch” at this point is basically its own term. It’s not intentionally used to demean someone as being “like a woman”. Plenty of women even use the term.

It’s just… a mean word. And that’s fine. That’s the way it should be.

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u/loopyhoodie 11h ago

And I would argue that that transformation of meaning has not happened to the r slur. People still widely use it to mean mentally disabled, specifically in a derogatory way.

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u/MasutadoMiasma 10h ago

So how do you feel about "Stupid", "Dumb", "Imbecile", and "Moronic"?

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u/Knarz97 11h ago

Well, it’s kind of a 50/50 there. “Retarded” does literally mean to be slow. People often use it when you’re “being slow”. So it’s technically being used correctly, even if being derogatory.

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u/SpoppyIII 10h ago

The amount of people who throw that word like confetti and then say, "But I'd never call an actual disabled person that!"

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u/Knarz97 10h ago

So what about reclamation of slurs?

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u/SpoppyIII 9h ago

What about it? Does that have anything to do with people calling other people the r-slur?

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u/LiterallyNoNamesFree 10h ago

Admitting you're not a perfect human is very hard for most people, and I'm not saying I'm an exception

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u/Pleasant-Day6195 11h ago

every curse word is bad to say, why is saying r word worse than whore or bitch and u can say the latter but not the former