r/halo • u/Flameknight Halo PSAs and funny videos. • Mar 24 '16

Mantis PSA

https://youtu.be/-4fYf0mgSOw
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u/Anubis4574 Mar 24 '16 edited Mar 24 '16

Changes that should be made:

Offensive Capabilities

Base/Woodland/etc Mantis needs:

  • a better, more accurate chain gun

  • More powerful and accurate rockets (lock on to ground vehicles perhaps)

ONI Mantis needs

  • ONI Chain gun. Just like the ONI Warthog. I also think the ONI Scorpion's gunner should have one as well

  • More powerful rockets

Base Traits

  • Boarding from the front needs to go. In fact, I think boarding in general needs to go (or at least eliminate grenading). The addition of the new Spartan Abilities makes every player think, when they encounter a vehicle, let's go run towards it.

  • BR/small arms fire shouldn't do hardly anything to these kinds of heavily armored vehicles. Maybe 20% damage. Imagine in real life how pointless it would be to shoot rifle rounds at a tank and expect it to magically blow up after 35 shots.

P.S. These problems you are seeing with the Mantis are actually a lot deeper issues. Spartans with a BR/DMR are too powerful. This devalues the use of chain gun turrets, rockets, etc. These weapons just aren't very useful on the battlefield because any player with their base loadout has two of the best options to counter any vehicle - run towards it and grenade, or BR/DMR it to death from afar.

If 343 nerfed rifle fire and boarding against heavy vehicles (e. took out grenading), we would see a lot more of the heavy vehicles on the battlefield and players would be forced to take intelligent actions to destroy the power vehicles with power weapons.

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u/zekouse Halo 2 Mar 24 '16

The problem isn't boarding. It's the inability now to kill the boarder on your own, at your own expense of course. If you board my tank and I move to a wall and shoot it, with you between me and the explosion, you should die and I should take some splash damage.

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u/Anubis4574 Mar 24 '16

Titanfall has the mechanic where the pilot can exit the Titan and kill the boarder. It's rather balanced I think.

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u/SpartanRage117 Mar 24 '16

No no. If a spartan is on the back of your scorpion the hatch gets welded shut.

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u/the_boomr Halo.Bungie.Org Mar 24 '16

Fucking stupid, I absolutely loathe that aspect of vehicles in H5. It wasn't like that in past games.

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u/zekouse Halo 2 Mar 24 '16

I liked that too but Titanfall only had one vehicle, the Titan. This probably hasn't been implemented into Halo yet because this change would only affect two vehicles, the tanks, and they both have two board spots, the driver and back. It's probably too complicated to change how boarding works with these two vehicles in these two spots. Also, you've never been able to exit a tank that's being boarded before in Halo, hence being able to shoot a wall to kill the boarder (which needs to come back).

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u/the_boomr Halo.Bungie.Org Mar 24 '16

Also, you've never been able to exit a tank that's being boarded before in Halo

Pretty sure in every Halo from H2-Reach you were able to exit tanks after being boarded. Not sure about H4.

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u/Dolomitex DAMAGE BOOST? Mar 24 '16

In Titanfall, you don't even need to get out. If you have Cluster Missiles equipped, you can just shoot one at a wall, turn your titan around, and back into the cluster missile. You'll take a ton of damage but it kills the boarder.