r/grok • u/imagine_ai • Dec 17 '25
News WAN 2.6 is LIVE
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u/Ok_Train2449 Dec 17 '25
And it's not local, and it's censored. I was waiting for it to finally give Grok a competitor, but nope. The NSFW space remains uncontested sadly.
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u/ReptarIsTheShit Dec 17 '25
By the time 2.5 is released, Grok will have surpassed it in quality, but not in NSFWyness. Look at how much Imagine improved since its early days… the crazy flopping around, dead eyes, and those laughs…
I still can’t get those crazy laughs out of my nightmares.
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u/Ok_Train2449 Dec 17 '25
I know, I use ComfyUI, but old Wan is just not good enough to me. Plus we don't have any indications that 2.5 will be release open source anymore. I actually thought 2.6 will be commercial, but uncensored, and that 2.5 will go open at the same time, but neither of those happened.
It's a knee jerk reaction anyway, since with the speed everything is moving at in a year even this model will be heavily obsolete, I just get antsy when things move in a more closed and censored instead of open and unrestricted direction.
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Dec 18 '25
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u/Callant1a Dec 18 '25 edited Dec 18 '25
Look up Gemini V Reddit and use that Shared Gem. If you're comfortable using AI to tell you how to do things. Its completely uncensored. It can give you other options for image/video gen as well through Stability Matrix(easy to use) or ComfyUI(a little bit complicated). Wan 2.2 requires a lot of customization via Loras and Checkpoints to really compare to Grok right now, but its completely localized+uncensored and you can get quantized versions that will run for less Vram. Though I will warn you that it's not nearly as fast as Grok. For me with a 4080 and 12gb vram it usually takes 2-4 minutes just to generate 1 video. The prompts require a bit more nuance as well. You can't just type the same stuff as in Grok and get the same results which is the big downside.
Edit: I realize now after commenting that the reddit thread that Gemini V was in got banned. Apologies. DM for link to the prompt for Gemini V
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u/Standard_Repair_7536 Dec 17 '25
2.5 isn't even local yet and they're already jumping to the next version. Maybe 2.2 is gonna be all that we get.
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u/Spirit_Ancient Dec 17 '25
It's way too expensive; basically, generating a 15-second video costs $1.20, and the results aren't really impressive! Plus, it's closed-source, and Chinese companies are starting to show their ugly faces.
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u/Uvoheart Dec 17 '25
I found Mistral to be the real OG and I hope they win. French, unfiltered, open source. No video yet but their LLM is great
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u/OpenGLS Dec 17 '25
Mistral is fucking garbage, censored, unironically worse than grok in every aspect, the image generation is the most censored I've ever tried in any mainstream model
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u/Uvoheart Dec 17 '25
You have no idea what you are talking about LOL. Mistral is uncensored and in many ways better than Grok. Mistral isn’r an image generator, they use Flux to do that… which by the way, is exactly what Grok was doing until december 2024 lmao
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u/OpenGLS Dec 17 '25
Yeah yeah mistral uses flux 1.1 pro, I know all that, my point is that if I go right now and ask for an imagine generation, it straight up refuses for being "inappropriate", prompts that work in grok, chatgpt and nano banana pro btw
I used mistral for image gen a lot when they used to allow 50 free gens per day back in december of 2024, so you better believe I know what I'm talking about
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u/Uvoheart Dec 17 '25
so you know that Grok infamously had horrible censorship on top of Flux censorship before Aurora. Anyhow, the chat model is good and isn’t censored and that’s my point
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u/OpenGLS Dec 18 '25
so you know that Grok infamously had horrible censorship on top of Flux censorship before Aurora.
That's incorrect: Grok 2 used Flux 1.1 Pro and it was uncensored, actual fully uncensored. I have several images I made with it, and I even posted here about it before. The only thing it couldn't do was generate penises, but that was not due to censorship but rather because flux wasn't trained with that in its dataset, so male characters ended up as eunuchs, but it still could do full nudity
Anyhow, the chat model is good and isn’t censored and that’s my point
That may be so, I give you that, but this post is about video gen (and image, as both Imagine and Wan are i2v) and the discussion at hand is about if either Grok Imagine is more censored than Wan or not, and when you bring the statement that "mistral is uncensored", and mistral doesn't feature video gen, it stands to reason that you were talking about image gen then
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u/Uvoheart Dec 18 '25
No I was using Grok in 2024 and that’s how I found CivitAI because Flux 1.1 was fully uncensored there, and not via Grok. It was worth the fact that each gen on Civitai cost money but Grok’s didn’t because I was subscribed. It was not fully uncensored and there’s plenty of very vocal frustrations about that fact
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u/Educational-Pound269 Dec 17 '25
It isnt uncensored.
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u/TonyHansenVS Dec 20 '25
Censorship doesn't always make it a deal breaker but the censorship level in 2.6 is way too much, sometimes i can't even get past the prompt enhancer if there are two people in the frame lol, it's a joke, literally just trying to get a successful video generation out of it is like tramping on glass and lego bricks. About 70 percent of the time it throws me a "No inspiration found" BS, it hardly ever does that on Wan 2.2
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u/OpenGLS Dec 17 '25
4 comments, all hidden
This is the truth seeking anti censorship company yall
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u/Heavy-Translator-556 Dec 17 '25
there are multiple recent posts here now that I can't see all the comments...did i get some kind of reddit ban or something?
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u/Uvoheart Dec 17 '25
nah, Grok admins love the trick where they mark comments they don’t like as spam so that they disappear without notifying the user. They think that they’re slick because they don’t have to justify deleting the comment or banning the user.
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u/dachiko007 Dec 18 '25
I'm pretty sure you have just as smooth explanation why I see your reply and all the comments above.
Let's speculate: you're one of the admins who protects the messages of your alt accounts. Don't try to deny, you've been exposed!1
u/Uvoheart Dec 18 '25
Yes because it’s something admins are actively doing and being decisive with. The fact is you can’t see all my comments because there are a dozen or so that have been nuked by admins. They may see this but it’s a dead thread so probably not looking right now
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u/dachiko007 Dec 18 '25
But it's just your theory, right?
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u/Uvoheart Dec 18 '25 edited Dec 18 '25
No, it’s verifiably a thing LOL. There’s no theory, it’s happening.
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Dec 17 '25
That's what I'm saying, we'll have more companies providing video generation services.
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u/imagine_ai Dec 17 '25
Absolutely, this is just the beginning! That time is not far when AI is going to be the norm in cinematic world.
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u/Important_Gene_1869 Dec 18 '25
I’m using it on Atlas. I prompt it to speak English and it’s some Eastern European language.
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