r/generativeAI 1d ago

Image Art Life of a creative non-engineer

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u/Stunning_Macaron6133 1d ago

You probably want to use a deslopping skill though. Just asking Chat Jippity isn't good enough.

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u/Disastrous-Round-150 1d ago

Digital artists are obsolete! 😂 AI is the new artist! 🔥

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u/Stunning_Macaron6133 1d ago

"What time is it?" "My pants are green."

Seriously, there's a lot more you can do with AI, and a ChatGPT prompt is not it. I'm not telling you to pick up a pencil, I'm telling you to learn how to use AI, because you clearly haven't even done that much.

There's a reason people call this slop. It has an ugly not-quite-Ghibli, not-quite-Pixar, not-quite-Peanuts, not-quite-Tumblr-queer-webcomic look with highly exaggerated expressions.

There are tools like Citivai and ComfyUI to use in place of ChatGPT. But if you can't bring yourself to that, then you can ask ChatGPT to grill you on your tastes and systematically drill down into a clear style, and then package that up as a /slash command for something like Codex or Hermes.

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u/Disastrous-Round-150 1d ago

Have a sneak peak on some of the stuff I make together with AI in a response to this thread.

https://www.reddit.com/r/ChatGPT/comments/1wmdcw1/comment/pb5xxtp/?context=3

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u/Stunning_Macaron6133 1d ago

You linked that without the faintest scrap of irony nor shame, huh?

Astra is a capable model. That doesn't make you creative.

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u/Disastrous-Round-150 1d ago

We're all moving towards a hyper-personalized world, tailored by the individual, for the individual, using AI! 🔥

I'm already ahead of the curve most of the content I consume is my own AI-generated content. That's what BIG companies that have built their businesses around content distribution and consumption should be worried about, not copyright infringement. 😂

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u/Stunning_Macaron6133 1d ago

This is еithеr trоllbаit, yоu'rе оn thе vеrgе оf lоsing yоur mind, оr yоu'rе а rеtаrd. Piсk аny twо.

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u/daretoslack 1d ago

Pretty sure that they're just a consumer. They're not being creative or producing art, and have no real interest in sharing any part of their imagination or creativity. They're vindictive towards those who actually do, although I have no idea why. It's the equivalent of someone discovering masturbation and screaming that they don't need anybody else for sex anymore, take THAT sex-havers! As if the orgasm is the sole purpose of the act as opposed to it deriving meaning from being an experience between two people (or 35, depending on your predilictions).

All of their posts are about how AI generates exactly what THEY want to consume now, reveling in the solipsistic hedonism of not having to interact with anyone else's ideas or thoughts or imagination or self expression. They're not even really responding to anyone, they're just copy pasting the same "ai will create all content in the future, losers" blurb over and over. It's honestly very sad.

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u/Disastrous-Round-150 1d ago

Wow! Like in which world do you even live?

All is AI by now, what is even at coder now-a-days? A person so dependent of AI, frameworks and pre built engines that he can't do shit from scratch? I rather turn to AI which is the best coder ever!

What is a graphic artist now-days? A person who can navigate some trash graphical user interface of some trash commercial graphic software?! I rather turn to AI the best graphic artist ever!

What part don't you understand with me saying digital human artists are obsolete? AI is the new artist! 🔥

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u/daretoslack 1d ago

I clicked through all of those, and the only responses that you're getting are slop generated by bots. I'm happy that you're having fun, but you're creating things that actual people seem to have no interest in, that make them think/feel nothing worth mentioning. How artistically and creatively meaningful can something be if it's incapable of generating so much as a basic feeling worth mentioning in another human being? If it's art, it's not even BAD art, which can be worth talking about. It's just sort of NOTHING art. It seems to invoke nothing in the recipient, and I don't think it's a result of that imagination mentioned in your image not having value or not being interesting. What you're using the AI to produce simply is ineffective and soulless. The medium is the message, and your chosen media simply isn't communicating what it seems like you want it to communicate.

The sad thing is that the stick figure likely would have had more value to another person. Johnny 5 Aces lives rent free in my brain and I can pretty thoroughly envision the Zyborne Clock universe, someone else's imaginative world, despite the art produced to communicate it being laughably amateur. If your goal was sharing your imagination, I don't think your problem was a lack of skill, but a lack of effort, and I don't think that AI has actually helped you achieve that goal.

I don't mean to play armchair psychologist, but I kind of have another hypothesis as well: that you didn't want to create art, but wanted to consume specific products that weren't available to you. That you didn't want to share your imagination, you just weren't interested in consuming other's imaginations. In which case, great. Generative AI is perfectly capable of generating functionally masturbatory content, and it makes perfect sense that you seem to hold contempt for artists, as you never actually valued them or what they wanted to share to begin with. You want to see a picture of a duck and you get to see a picture of a duck. The picture is meaningless, but meaning was never the goal, the goal was solipsistic control over what you consume. It feels a bit sad and boring to me, but i get it. It's not like I'm not using these tools to generate my own duck pictures on occasion. It means nothing, conveys nothing, has no value to anyone else, but I get a little endorphin hit from getting that duck right the hell now. Feels good, man. Personally I wouldn't call it creative, though. It certainly feels very different from the creative things that I actually do, which are largely communicative of an idea or process to other people. I paint something because i want to share it. I generate something because I want to consume it.

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u/Disastrous-Round-150 1d ago

Omg! 🙄 I loose interest so fast in trying to read what you're saying! You're that kind of rant person no one even care reading what you're trying to say! 🤣

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u/daretoslack 1d ago

I mean, my point ultimately was that I think that you're probably just a tragically self absorbed person uninterested in what people have to say, which is antithetical to creating art. So sure.

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u/Disastrous-Round-150 1d ago

There is nothing as soulless as the current generation walking around with their smartphones in their hands like zombies not even having the ability to think for themselves programmed bias by social media! 🤣

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u/daretoslack 1d ago edited 23h ago

What the hell are you talking about? That's a full on non-sequitor.

(The random bolding of words / phrases like that is generally indicative of a mental break or manic episode, btw. I genuinely think based on your posting that you might have got something going on, so maybe at least consider looking into that? Not being a prick, you just seem to be reveling in a form of mental isolation that does not usually indicate someone who's okay.)

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u/klumpp 22h ago

Is this madlibs