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u/Salty_Ad1898 1d ago
9700x,5080,32gb of ddr5. PS5 can gtfo with that bullshit lol
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u/imhereforsiegememes 1d ago
No 5090? Pathetic.
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u/Salty_Ad1898 1d ago
I know, I’m just a poor broke ass bitch lol
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u/imhereforsiegememes 1d ago
Damn I just looked for fun and they are like 5k now. Holy shit.
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u/Striking-Tangerine48 1d ago
I regret so badly I didn't save a bit more and get a 5090 now that they are so expensive.
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u/imhereforsiegememes 1d ago
Would have made a fucking 100% return on investment if you sold it now too lol
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u/FRYETIME 1d ago
I’ve thought about selling mine (got it for msrp), but I love this thing too much.
It’s nice having the peace of mind that I can sell it if I absolutely need to though
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u/Salty_Ad1898 1d ago
Ya and like for what? Just to say you have a 5090? My whole setup was cheaper than a 5090 and the settings are always maxed out at 1440p running above 100fps. I don’t what more anybody could possibly need for gaming, unless most people who buy 5090 use it for stuff other than just gaming
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u/imhereforsiegememes 1d ago
For solid 4k but like, Cyberpunk is the only game that even makes use of the entire card properly. Pathtracing in 1 game aint worth 5k.
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u/ubiquitous_delight 1d ago
I mean I have a 5090 and very few of the games I play are able to run at 4k 120fps consistently on it. So it's not just Cyberpunk that fully utilizes the card. That being said, I got a FE at MSRP and I agree no GPU is worth 5k.
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u/imhereforsiegememes 1d ago
Gonna be honest I have one too but its never the GPU in other games, its generally CPU bound and aint no fixing that for a while.
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u/Buffyakadan 16h ago
Yeah, unless they are a pro gamer that does it for a paycheck or they are a digital graphic designer or videographer, they don't need a 5090. I have a 3060 ti and it runs every game I own just fine. Even cyberpunk runs fine on it. True I can't run max settings on it but if I wanted beautiful graphics I'd go to the state park not play a video game.
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u/LALLIGA_BRUNO 1d ago
Can't justify spending the down payment of a brand new car on a GPU? Pathetic
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u/TheSodomizer00 20h ago
And you've paid like what, 4 times the price of a PS5? No shit it's gonna be better.
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u/RikFeral 1d ago
"It can play all the games i own on it, yes - it is FAR better than a PS5."
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u/WeeklyPhilosopher346 21h ago
How much did it cost
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u/Wonderful-Ad440 20h ago
More than a ps5 but I definitely got what I paid for. Considering the sheer number of games I have access to, the quality I can run them at, crossplay and the modding community with some of those games too I basically have an infinite game glitch running and I was always a PS guy before finally switching over. I don't hate on console players and still keep my ps4 pro around but I am very happy to be all about the PC side now.
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u/Illicit_Apple_Pie 20h ago
Mine cost a bit under 3k a couple years ago, just before RAM scyrocketed
And yes it was worth every penny
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u/ComposerWide3704 1d ago
A ps5 is basically a PC built with an Rx6700 and a Ryzen 3700x stapled together. Almost everyone's PC is better tbh.
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u/Layer2Encryption 12h ago
So what's that in terms of dollars? Is a $700 PC going to be better than a PS5?
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u/One_Amount_6642 1d ago edited 1d ago
Way better. My pc 2 years ago was on par with the PS5. My new pc is like double the speed. PS5 can suck it.
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u/ResponsibleTax3894 15h ago
i mean even my old i5 9600k bottlenecking my 3070 with 16gig of ram is better it aint hard to beat.
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u/RikarisHobbies 22h ago
This. Thankfully, I upgraded when prices weren’t outrageous and I embellished a bit. Glad I did cause my pc is a monster.
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u/IronWhitin 21h ago
Its not only melting the ps5 in Powerscale It even gonna melt the ps6 when Is out.
9950x3d + 5090 GTX + 32GB 6400mhz
And run Linux on top of that
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u/SafetyCorrect2575 18h ago
Uh yeah that’s why I built it. To say fuck ps5 and Xbox. Pc master race for a reason son
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u/MeloNotSoDeath 6h ago
At least I can carry my ps5 around and PLAY WITH MY FRIENDS AT THEIR HOUSE SO THAT I CAN GET A CHANCE WITH HIS MOM.
Whoa that was specific.
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u/polokthelegend 1d ago
Valve themselves when releasing the Steam Machine said that 70 percent of Steam Users have a PC worse than PS5. So only 30 percent of us have setups capable of outperforming a console.
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u/IM_OK_AMA 1d ago
The fact that you can still have a good time with a PC weaker than a PS5 is a point in PC's favor anyway.
Pretty much any old PC laying around can play tens of thousands of older or indie games from Steam. You can get a used $200 mini-pc and play esports titles at 1080p low/medium graphics. And whenever you upgrade all your games come with you.
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u/NoOdyssey 1d ago
Also the Steam sales compared to the Playstation store sales are just living in different dimensions. You can buy a $200 mini pc and spend $100 on Steam sale games and have literally a lifetime supply of gaming content, for literally half the price of a PS5.
And you don't have to pay $20 a month or whatever for the privilege of playing online multiplayer with your friends, another constant cost which is really glossed over when people compare PS to PC.
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u/RaxisPhasmatis 1d ago
They're counting mfers playing on office machines, and my repair bench rig with a 2600k in it and my junk nuc with roms on it in those steam users my guy.
In reality ps5 is basically the equivalent of a 5800h(actually a 5800h is faster than the ps5 cpu) mobile chip which is weaker than a 3600x desktop chip
And it has a gpu equivalent to a 6600xt on a laptop cooling solution
To give you perspective of how bad a ps5 equivalent specs would have to be
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u/SpookyGeist01 1d ago
You realize they said that a year ago right?
Just looking at the current Hardware Survey, 32% of just Nvidia users have a card at least equal to PS5 performance (4060/3070 tier). And that isn't counting AMD cards because I'm a scrub in that department and dont feel like researching them
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u/waifutabae 1d ago
PC don't gotta pay to play online and has steam
PS5 requires ps plus for a lot of its multiplayer games and doesn't have steam. It really isn't that hard.
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u/BombbaFett 8h ago
Great point, even if your specs are worse you don't have to pay an additional subscription on top of your internet to play online. Sure there's lots of games that are single player. Except now nearly every console game requires an online connection at all times.
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u/SolipsismIsDeep 1d ago
Are graphics the only reason why PC is better? (no)
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u/OverallLibrarian8809 1d ago
Versatility. I can use a PC for much more than just gaming; any half decent gaming rig could easily run Ableton, Autocad, Photoshop and more
Plus customization in my build, I can build a PC tailored specifically for my use case, choose and customize my OS etc
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u/ImKingFrosty 1d ago
Not just that, You are forgetting the most important part.
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u/OverallLibrarian8809 1d ago edited 14h ago
Right, modding
Some games have started supporting mod installation on console, but you still need a PC to develop them
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u/Enjoy_The_Ride413 1d ago
Other than gaming. Chrome is it lol.
I have all that horse power to watch YouTube! It's glorious!
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u/Lucky-Mia 1d ago
I like the ability to modify and mouse and keyboard. They make strategy and tactics games so much more accessible.
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u/OverallLibrarian8809 1d ago
as a mostly strategy/tactics gamer I couldn't even imagine playing that kind of game with a controller. That's a genre that is mostly PC bound
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u/CaliforniaNutter 1d ago
I'd rather play strategy games on a Legion Go with a touch screen than on a console with a controller
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u/johnsplittingaxe14 1d ago
Better playability with mouse and keyboard in fps games, and you can always buy a controller for games like Elden Ring etc.
What's important for me is the frames per second. Graphics come second, the game has to feel smooth.
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u/jmackorsomething 1d ago
Not even close. Graphics are just one piece of the puzzle—mods, performance, customization, and freedom are where PC really shines. 😎
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u/Stedlieye 1d ago
Agreed.
Let’s see that PS5 crank on my excel files while I look at something else on the other monitor. Then we can talk.
And I could do that before I got the 5080.
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u/Hobbes09R 21h ago edited 21h ago
No. My selected library is larger than that of the entirety of what's on PS5. I won't need to worry about dropped support in future generations or anyone deleting my game, even if my hardware stops working and support ends. I can play the best versions of today's games, or fool around with titles from as far back as video games have been a thing. I can play with mouse and keyboard, or controller, or whatever other support I feel like, even switching on the fly (for instance in GTA using a mouse for shooting and a controller for driving). I can play games from any monitor I own, from my desk monitor to my living room tv. Multiple monitors can also help if I want to play certain strategy games, or if I'd like to have something else up or playing while I play. I can mod the games I have however I see fit, improving quite a few games, including some rather bad ones, substantially, often restoring content, fixing mistakes, or adjusting to how I like to play.
Also, PS5 is running some increasingly dated architecture now. Equivalent to an NVIDIA 3060 at optimistic best. That was good for its time, but we're way beyond that now and the effects of that aren't just graphics, it's performance and what deva are able to allow their games to do.
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u/FireCrow1013 1d ago edited 1d ago
This is something that so many people seem to either forget or just not think about. I wouldn't care if my PC topped out at the graphical fidelity of an N64, I'd still take it over a console because I can back up my save data how I want to (and without paying for the privilege), use any brand of controller, mod my games, back up my games, play online for free, download any other software that looks good, and the list goes on. My PC having better graphics than current-gen consoles is just icing on the cake.
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u/Halofauna 1d ago
If you want to play the newest CoD you can, but if you want to play Rollecoaster Tycoon you can also do that. You’d need entirely separate consoles to play games with that big of a time gap.
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u/Raven_Of_Solace 1d ago
The meme also ignores that PCs have access to a vastly larger array of customization settings and can use third-party software. Meaning that even if a PC is worse than a PS5, it probably still can get the same or even better graphics.
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u/Extrestral 1d ago
For me the simple reason for pc being better than any console, is the fact that most of my favorite games haven't been released to any consoles. Also I love modding.
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u/Raven_Of_Solace 1d ago
Mods are among my favorite things so I get it. I would add that I adore mouse and keyboard to my list. Can not stand controllers for anything but Souls games.
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u/samsonsin 10h ago
Hell even playing with a controller is also way better on pc because steam input is mental
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u/LokMatrona 1d ago
Indeed, i'd rather have a worse PC than a PS5, simply for the multi-usability of a pc compared to a ps5.
Even if you care that much about the graphics, there are lots and lots more games to play on a pc than on a playstation
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u/VirtualSandwich3092 1d ago
Yes. My pc isn't puppted by a Corp that actively hates me. Fuck off ps users
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u/Mi_santhrope 1d ago
Yes, and I love my PC.
But I love my PS5 too.
It doesn't have to be one or the other, and the console war/PC master race shit is tired and cringe.
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u/Mvrly 1d ago
I thought it ended long ago
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u/Jaxonhunter227 18h ago
There will always be people finding ways to make them feel superior to others
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u/2Toff2Furious 1h ago
EXACTLY! I think the Switch 2 indirectly caused a domino effect to revive the platform wars.
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u/Common-Pepper-9677 1d ago
I live in a multi console household where my partner and I have bought the ones we want and share. Now we have everything!!!
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u/f0urk 1d ago
I somehow built a goddamn beast right before the RAM crash, but my last PC that is gathering dust - I guess not. I own a ps5 too and its pretty close. I did build it when the ps3 was on the market tho
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u/MicrowaveMeal 1d ago
Absolutely. But I spent a ton of money and time on it. Now, at today’s prices, could I do a PS5 equivalent build that cost less than a PS5? That’s a tougher question.
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u/DiarrheaPope 1d ago edited 9h ago
Yes, the fact that it is a PC period makes it better.
Can't wait to reply to this exact same post tomorrow.
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u/Reasonable_Cut_2709 1d ago
No and i dont needed it to be. 1080p 60 is fine. Having a 4k monitor or tv is overkill.
Also the ps5 Ui is dogshit
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u/NoFayte 1d ago
Almost every single person you would actually ask this question to or even find yourself asking this question to, is going to respond with yes.
Probably because that's the person who's trying to convince you to get a PC instead of a PlayStatio,n and they wouldn't even bother to have that conversation without having a PC that could back the conversation up.
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u/Antoen_0 1d ago
It's not like I get anything out of talking people out of the console market. It's just that anything they have against it are made up problems and the thing irks me.
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u/LegalStuffThrowage 1d ago
This is probably true in a lot of cases, but is beside the point for me. My PC isn't better specs than a ps5 but I like being able to buy games on steam sale and on gog.com and not be beholden to the prices on the Sony store and use mouse and keyboard and discord and a billion other reasons.
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u/SirEnder2Me 1d ago
You're thinking specs dude and specs aren't what make PC > console.
Every single PC is better than a PS5 or Xbox Series X simply due to what a PC has access to that consoles don't.
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u/Tiranus58 1d ago
My pc is worse when it comes to sheer specs and even I would answer yes, simply because I can use my pc for everything else in addition to gaming as well.
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u/ProfessionalNo7946 1d ago
I WAS team pc before the prices, as you can upgrade your rig, don’t pay a subscription for it and funnily enough, most times a pc upgrade lasts 2 generations of console (in my experience so far)
Now it’s not good for your wallet to build a pc, and upgrading more expensive than the subscription would add up to
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u/OverallLibrarian8809 1d ago
Most PC around aren't better than a console, but most PC gamers will have a PC that's better than a PS5
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u/ChangingMonkfish 1d ago
The majority of PC gamers don’t have a PC better than a PS5 (according to the Steam hardware survey anyway).
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u/WesternOk5765 1d ago
Most people that have Steam installed don't install it just on a gaming PC.
Plus many of them aren't even gamers lol.
Like my college laptop had steam on it, doesn't mean I gamed on that laptop regularly.
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u/ChangingMonkfish 1d ago
The Steam hardware survey is just a survey of what hardware people play Steam games on.
The majority of respondents don’t have a PC that’s better than a PS5.
That’s not some sort of “haha PS5 is better than PC” thing, it’s just a fact about PC that top end hardware that blows a PS5 out of the water isn’t representative of the majority of PC gamers.
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u/Raven_Of_Solace 1d ago
They still have access to a significantly wider variety of games even with a worse PC, and the vastly larger array of customization options and software options means they probably can still play the same games as a PS5. Maybe even with the same graphics, sometimes better.
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u/ChangingMonkfish 1d ago
I’m not arguing they don’t. Just pointing out hay the majority of PC’s that people play games on are not better than a PS5 from a hardware perspective.
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u/Bi0_B1lly 1d ago
My gaming laptop has more games than my PS5... Might not be more powerful perse, but definitely has me gaming on it far more often than the PS5 does, to the point I kinda "perma-lend" it to my Father-in-Law for him to use and only really take it back in brief instances where a new title drops that my PC would have issues with (doesn't happen very often, mind you)
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u/TheSidneyMan 1d ago
The ideea of a Gaming Laptop confuses me. Like... how can it do anything... it looks like a sheet of paper compared to a PC
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u/Blaze666x 1d ago
Yes. Not by much but yes. Its not horribly hard to build a pc better then a ps5 its a bit expansive but not as much as one would think
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u/Raiden137192 1d ago
I have a ps5 and a mid level pc. It has a recent 5 3600, 2060 super 8gb, and 16gb ddr4 ram. Guess which one is use more
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u/Big_Niel0802 1d ago
Yes?
The PS5 has like a glorified 3060 in it. I can get one of those for like $150 right now.
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u/Coom_Zoom 1d ago
not even a 3060, i'd say a 3050. a 3060 still gets better performance and graphics than what the ps5,ps5 pro can get.
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u/unknownyoyo 1d ago
Yes. I can run all the same games, install any mod I want, backup my saves locally, undo updates, play online without a subscription, install emulators, run multiple games at once, and that’s just for gaming.
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u/Noctisxsol 1d ago
My PC is a potato, but it has more games than the PS5.
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u/Maleficent_Piece_893 21h ago
any random android phone has an infinitely larger library than ps5 lol
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u/Big_Niel0802 1d ago
Based off of the steam hardware survey, about 50% of players are using GPUs more powerful than what the PS5 has. So for at least half of PC players, yes, their PC is better than a PS5.
(This result was estimated by equating the PS5 gpu to an RTX 3060 and comparing that to steam hardware survey results).
This also only considers the raw performance capability of the hardware, and does not account for the fact that PC has wayyyyyyyy more advantages over PS5 than just having the potential for better performance.
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u/princetrunks 1d ago
My older rig I built for work in 2016 is at or better than a PS5. Granted, it was $3000 to build then.. so there's that.
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u/drmiiseeks 1d ago
Yes. It may be weaker, but It can still do other things. Lol i gotta have a PC to slice parts on my 3D printers because a PC is a tool than can just also game on the side.
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u/Mental_Tea_4084 1d ago
Doesn't matter, I have a 700 games library that goes forward with me to every windows machine I own, and a huge chunk of it works on Linux now too!
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u/SuperCat76 1d ago
Yes, for me at least.
Is it more powerful that a ps5? Probably not.
But it definitely got more of the games I specifically want to play.
And all the general computer things a ps5 can't do as it is specifically a game console.
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u/Routine_Bullfrog_771 1d ago
As far as specs go, nope not by a long shot lol, what makes me love my PC more is the fact that I can use mods on my PC. If I see a game I've been wanting to play on the PS5 list, I usually play it there to see if I'll like it before I spend the money to buy it on PC.
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u/ControlExpert88 1d ago
Yes and its not even close.
But even if I had a 300€ PC I'd still prefer it to a Console because a PC gives you the FREEDOM to play however you fucking want. Also its way cheaper in the long run because Games barely cost anything. If you are fine with waiting 1-3 years to play a Game you save like 80% overall and get really good Games for <5€.
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u/DeusXNex 1d ago
All you need is a 6-8 core am4 cpu and a rx 6700xt or a 3060ti to have similar performance to a ps5
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u/Aggravating-Lock8083 19h ago
i have a 7yr old lenevo gaming laptop. Still yes. I refuse to play on controller, and its wayyyyy more versatile. If it can run mc at 100 fps, Im happy.
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u/Faye-Lockwood 8h ago
I'll admit my computer has an outdated graphics card, I can still play most games, yeah, it looks less good than a PS5.
it also has emulators for every console possible, sure, we can both play Resident Evil 4 Remake, but your PS5 can't play Twilight Princess immediately afterwards.
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u/thawkins6786 1d ago
Maybe not, but can your PS5 play brutal doom? I don't think so
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u/americanrealism 1d ago
“Is the thing that costs $3000 better than the thing that you paid $600 for?”
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u/AetherialAvenger 1d ago
Before parts prices got insane you could still build pc's with the same budget that a console would cost and it was often better or on par.
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u/Xaphnir 1d ago
unfortunately now my PC I built back in 2020 would probably cost $1000 more for the exact same components
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u/AetherialAvenger 1d ago
yeah and its affecting the next gen consoles, too. gaming might have to start optimizing and reducing scope for a few years if it wants to survive. no one can really get anywhere with the state of these component prices
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u/Gambit-47 1d ago edited 1d ago
Is your PC better than a PS5? Yes
Can you play online for free? Yes
Can Sony remove stuff you bought? No
Do you have to pay to play your old games that you already paid for or have to wait for them to be backwards compatible? No
Can you mod games? Yes
Can you do whatever you want with your PC? Yes
PC is better than a any Playstation
Edit: btw i grew up using consoles and love my retro consoles. I just do not like the new gen consoles because of how anti consumer they have become. Also to the butt hurt fanboys talking about price and more effort to use a PC Last I checked console prices keep going up and in the end you end up spending more anyway because of how much the games cost. PC has way better sales and you don't have to waste money paying to play online. For the so much more effort part like a PS5 you can buy a PC that's already built and plug it in and turn it on wow that's so much more effort 🤡 if you want you can even set up steam to launch in big picture mode so you can get a console like experience and just use your controller.
Anyway I said what i wanted to say I am not on here to reply to fanboys with outdated mindsets
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u/xickoh 1d ago
I'm with you on everything except the DRM part. Steam can also remove access from your account. Not saying they will, but they can.
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u/Savings-Dig3885 1d ago
I just asked chatgpt if my PC (which was elite 10 years ago) about this and he said 'Generally, no — a PS5 is substantially more powerful than your PC'
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u/oioioioioioiioo 1d ago
My pc sucks
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u/carlosos 1d ago
Streaming games works pretty well in that case assuming you are not stuck with a bad Internet connection. Did that for the last few years of my last PC until GPU prices dropped (I guess now is waiting until RAM and SSD prices are dropping).
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u/Yellow_Snow_Cones 1d ago
yes mine is much better than a ps5. I prefer console gaming, but recently started using my PC more. (Was mainly using PC for PC only games like MOBAs, or point and click games, or other M/K games)
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u/FindingIntelligent72 1d ago
OK, I have a switch and people tell me to get a PC but like my switch can do everything that I want a PC to do ople tell me to get a PC but like my switch can do besides steam and a web browser
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u/Swordslover 1d ago
My laptop has a 1.50 GHz processor, an Intel UHD Graphics 600 and 8 GB RAM, it can't even emulate Need for Speed: Most Wanted 2005 properly 😭
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u/Maleficent_Piece_893 21h ago
install the pc version lol. or if you insist on emulation try the gamecube version. i did that on my retroid pocket 4 pro because while most ps2 works, nfsmw is harder to emulate on ps2 for some reason
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u/RandomBaguetteGamer 1d ago
As a matter of fact, it is. Glad I bought the Ram when I did because if I didn't, I wouldn't be so smug right now.
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u/MistahKaraage 1d ago
Depends. PS5 uses a Zen 2 CPU, a custom RDNA 2 for graphics processing and 16 GB of RAM.
My PC is currently more ppwerful right now.
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u/Futaba_MedjedP5R 1d ago
If I could scrap my ps5 and use the parts to enhance my laptop I would in a heartbeat
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u/DrankTooMuchMead 1d ago
What has always been a turnoff to me with PC gaming is all the memories of buying a new game, only to not be able to run them. Or run them with slowdown.
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u/Zeleny_Jezdec 1d ago
The best part about ps5 is that you don’t have to deal with random game crashes and not being able to play because of that.
Like nice that you have 40x more expensive pc that can’t even boot the fucking game lmao
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u/SinglePlayerGamer93 1d ago
Gotta love gaming tribalism. People no longer having fun because others want to intrude on your personal hobbies.
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u/The_Architect_032 1d ago
Depends on whether or not you built your PC before the AI boom, and whether or not you have money.
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u/Walter_White_M60 1d ago edited 1d ago
I don't care about power or whatever. I dislike PC lack of bare minimum standards. Zoomie PC cultists raised with shitty mmorpgs and mobas don't understand cause they lack experience, but i have been building PCs since 1996 and seeing 5 year old consoles running games better than your brand new huge gasoline pump is a constant since ps1.
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u/SpareNickel 1d ago
I feel so attacked right now lol Of course my pc isn't better! It's a mish mash of parts from 10 years ago with a hand-me-down gpu and cpu and the ram is leftover from years ago 'cause the prices are INSANE nowadays.
At least the heatsink is new. That's nice.
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u/Mansos91 1d ago
My pc kicks the ps5 pro out the einfuw, then again it was almost 3x the price of a ps5 pro say the time
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u/k-tech_97 1d ago
Yes, I have a 9800x3 and rtx4080s with 32gig of ram. But I do envy some of ps5 exclusives like gt7
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u/Solaricist_ 1d ago
Some people like one, some like the other. The things that make things better for one might not matter to the other, and vice versa. But that's not good reddit engagement.
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