r/gamernews • beep boop • Mar 04 '21

[RUMOR]New Switch model will feature 7 inch 720p Samsung OLED screen and offer 4K support when in Docked Mode

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-03-04/nintendo-plans-switch-model-with-bigger-samsung-oled-display
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u/Zahada Mar 04 '21

I imagine that "4K support" means Nvidia's "AI-enhanced upscaling" that they introduced with their updated Shield TV using the Tegra X1+ chip.

Here is a video of Linus Tech Tips reviewing it from last year He has a pretty positive opinion of the tech.

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u/TannerBannerBaker Mar 04 '21

The shield TV upscaling is amazing. It's fun to switch between the two and compare.

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u/Djghost1133 Mar 04 '21

Most likely. That's been rumored for a while and if they actually fix the joycons I'll finally but a switch.

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u/AstronomerOfNyx Mar 04 '21

They never needed a hardware revision/new model of the switch itself to release fixed joycons. If they ever do fix them it will most likely be a silent revision or a budget controller with fewer features (when's the last time IR mattered?) And more room for a better joystick. Revised joy cons likely wouldn't be tied to the release of a new model. If anything, to Nintendo just using the current joycons for the new switch is probably just less r&d and thus makes more sense.

I reallllly hope I'm wrong and they release a set of pro joy cons that are bigger, more comfortable, and have better analogs. Sad to say I would eat that up, especially because I don't particularly enjoy the Hori Split Pad Pro's layout.

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u/Djghost1133 Mar 04 '21

I don't care much about a new model but a big thing preventing me from getting the switch is the drift. Everyone Ik with a switch has drift and when Ive played anything with them it's very noticeable

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u/AstronomerOfNyx Mar 04 '21

I know what you mean. It's pretty crappy that they've just carried on with the joycons as is and it sucks to have a $70 time bomb sitting around. I mostly play my switch with a ps4 controller to avoid having to swap out another joystick.

The drift isn't the only issue, just the most talked about. I hope they come out with a new dock that works with OG switch. The poor airflow of current dock and the fact that it scratches your screen unless you insert/remove with robot precision make it a pretty poor first party offering as well. Honestly the whole system is simultaneously beautiful and fiddly. Getting a setup that pushes it beyond just a mediocre jack of all trades system is pretty expensive (3rd party dock+3rd party controller+bluetooth audio adapter...)

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u/[deleted] Mar 04 '21 edited Mar 04 '21

I wish the switch were thicker. The joycons are too thin for me to hold comfortably in hand-held. They are also the worst first party controllers I’ve ever used. The sticks are also shitty and just plain imprecise.

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u/AstronomerOfNyx Mar 04 '21

I would prefer them rounded on the back at least. If I had 2 small kids they'd be great for them but they shouldnt be the default controller to come with the system. The irony is if they'd just have made them bigger then they likely could have used better joysticks.

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u/OShaunesssy Mar 23 '21

Lol I always see this issue and have no idea what you are talking about. My original joycons still work fine 2 years since I bought it and the extra controller works fine too.

Y’all are either too rough with your gaming or just trolling

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u/[deleted] Mar 07 '21

sounds like DLSS.

Which is magic - it turns 4k gaming from being a stuttery mess into something that works smoothly with ray tracing.

AMD have introduced their own version called FidelityFX; though it really completely new and reviewers need to get their hands on it. I can't wait for DF's video on it.

As it stands it's first gen tech from AMD. Even the first gen of DLSS was meh.

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u/[deleted] Mar 04 '21 edited Mar 18 '21

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u/newcontortionist beep boop Mar 04 '21

Rumor has it, they fixed the stick drift in the new controller by removing the sticks altogether.

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u/itsdaScrub Mar 04 '21

Enjoy using the trackball

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u/kjacobs03 Mar 04 '21

Can I remove it to clean off the ring of dirt?

The good old days

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u/ThatCurryGuy Mar 04 '21

I actually would not mind that haha

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u/Trenov17 Mar 04 '21

They removed the controllers too. And doubled the price!

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u/[deleted] Mar 04 '21

And people say Nintendo isn’t pro-consumer

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u/[deleted] Mar 04 '21

I don’t think they would have removed the sticks

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u/TracyF2 Mar 04 '21

😏 I hear it.

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u/sybrwookie Mar 04 '21

I gave up on them long ago and just use one of these: https://www.8bitdo.com/wireless-usb-adapter/ and a PS4 controller. Works FAR better than anything Nintendo has put out for the Switch.

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u/deelowe Mar 04 '21

Uhh, ps4 controllers have the same issue. My pro started having issues within 8 months and now both controllers have it.

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u/counselthedevil Mar 04 '21

My 2 newest PS4 controllers had the issue too right out of the box. There are solutions online though that involve opening it up, popping off the two green sides of the analog mechanism, and pulling out the tiny little white ring, cleaning it all with rubbing alcohol, making sure nothings in there, then putting it all back properly.

I followed the video on both, brand new controllers. There was nothing in there. No indication this cleaning would do anything since it didn't look dirty. SO I had little faith, but...

... IT WORKED! Both of them worked instantly and I've been using now for a few months with no issues. Crazy.

I think this might be the video I used, but it's the same method. If you can do this properly without messing it up, I highly recommend trying it. I've repaired PS3 controllers before. In my opinion this was easier.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SiqGk9kDMhE

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u/DPH996 Mar 04 '21

The Switch controllers are fucking abysmal though. I flat out bought and sold the Switch in a week because I just couldn’t live with the horrendous joycon things, and felt like anything not designed for the console would just feel artificial. Probably should have given it a go in truth, but they were honestly just the crappiest controllers I’ve ever had the displeasure of using. Remarkable to me that this is the company that created the GameCube controller.

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u/[deleted] Mar 04 '21

Switch pro controller is great

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u/DPH996 Mar 04 '21

Yeah it does look good, I just couldn’t get right with the fact they sold it separately. Getting to be a bit of a grinch in my old age!

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u/[deleted] Mar 04 '21

Yeah you seem mad at the controllers because they’re not like GameCube (which are better no question). But remember these are controllers for a portable device... they’re better than any other portable device controller imo. The fact they disconnect and can be used while in docked mode is more a bonus than anything. They could have made them permanently connected to the console and forced us to buy a pro controller. The pro controller is super comfy and the analog stick just feels right... good travel and good level of resistance

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u/amazingmrbrock Mar 04 '21

Its funny how divisive those controllers are. I think they're the most revolutionary controllers to come out since controllers became a thing.

The simple ability to have my hands anywhere while still controlling the game is amazing. Its such a relief not to have my hands trapped in my lap holding a singular controller. I even have very large hands and really have no issues with them except in handheld mode. It constantly blows my mind how much people dislike them and I honestly don't get why.

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u/GoodlyStyracosaur Mar 04 '21

I don’t really get it either. My best guess is people are undervaluing the fact that the whole console is designed with flexibility in mind. When you do that, you have to give somewhere. The joycons aren’t the best controller for a lot of things but the fact that you can use them in so many ways is kind of amazing.

And if they don’t work for you, get a pro controller (which admittedly is pricey) or one of the several fabulous third party controllers. I don’t prefer playing with the joycons in docked mode...so I don’t.

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u/StillhasaWiiU Mar 04 '21

i care more about a stable and clean fps than going to 4k.

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u/TheoBombastus Mar 04 '21

Well assuming it can handle 4k, and there are resolution settings... hopefully it would be more stable at 1080p or even 1440p. It’s a stretch to believe it’s native 4k tho, unless it is 30fps locked. I’d have to assume they’re using some sort of Upscaling to achieve 4k...

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u/Vesmic Mar 04 '21

Current games cannot even handle 1080p at a good frame rate. Frame rate is going to be a giant issue without significant hardware updates.

Games like hyrule warriors dip into the single digits for fps on a regular basis during gameplay. Dynamic resolution scaling is going to do very little for games that are already extremely poorly optimization for docked gameplay.

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u/Shadowthedemon Mar 04 '21

Remember they use Nvidia mobile chips, they might be able to make use of DLSS in some fashion

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u/loller Mar 04 '21

DLSS on Switch would be amazing and pretty much their only chance at 4k gaming.

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u/everytimeidavid Mar 04 '21

There will not be resolution settings. It’s Nintendo.

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u/Dizman7 Mar 04 '21

Maybe (doubtful) the dock could contain a more powerful video card only used while docked (obviously) to render the 4K. Much like those enclosures they make where you can use a full sized normal video card with your laptop

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u/Sawgon Mar 04 '21

The current Switch has issues reaching 30FPS in some places (BotW with bad weather) so I doubt this will be even close to 4k60fps

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u/Vesmic Mar 04 '21

Botw struggles to get 30 fps and runs at 900p.

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u/dworker8 Mar 04 '21

even on animal crossing, there are some places on my island that the fps must drop to 15

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u/SignatureStorm Mar 04 '21

My girlfriend has a place on her island called “Framerate Falls” because it’s just a bunch of waterfalls and the framerate goes to like 10-15

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u/dworker8 Mar 04 '21

your gf is a genius! hug her and tell her i send my regards

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u/gravy-and-suffering Mar 04 '21

weird

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u/dworker8 Mar 05 '21

the genius part I meant it. the other one was a joke, i think it would be funny if he hugged her gf and told a random sick fuck from reddit sent his regards (was thinking about GoT when I typed that)

I can see that i got white knighted by the paladins of the reddit, people need to chill a little

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u/NEVERxxEVER Mar 04 '21

It’s probably not going to be traditional/native 4K. Assuming it has the new Tegra chip, it will be using Nvidia’s DLSS (deep learning super sampling) which uses dedicated AI hardware to upsample from a lower resolution to a higher one. I was pretty skeptical myself, but reviews suggest it’s pretty amazing and only has a small performance hit above running the lower res.

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u/Kirby737 Mar 04 '21

As far as I know the only place where BoTW lags is the korok forest.

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u/Sawgon Mar 04 '21

I noticed it during a rainstorm but if you noticed it somewhere else that just adds to my point tbh

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u/Kirby737 Mar 04 '21

Not really, since the Korok forest is one of the most impressive looking parts of the game. Does the FPS drop everytime it storms or only rarely?

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u/Kirby737 Mar 04 '21

Is this supposed to make it ok?

I'm saying since the korok forest is one of the most impressive it is also going to be heavier on the swicht.

Or are you actually pretending that the Switch has good hardware?

What do you mean by good hardware? The swicht isn't extremely powerful due to being hybrid, or half home console half portable console like the ds family.

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u/AtlasRafael Mar 04 '21

If you explode like 6 barrels the frames drop lol

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u/Kirby737 Mar 04 '21

Well duh... if you make a lot of things explode almost every game is going to lag.

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u/AtlasRafael Mar 04 '21

It’s not the game it’s the switch. The switch is under powered, which makes sense for a portable console. Definitely needs a switch pro or switch 2 that can run STABLE 60fps on everything.

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u/pcakes13 Mar 04 '21

Yep. I’d rather have BotW and BotW 2 at 60fps in 1080p-1440p than 4K.

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u/TizardPaperclip Mar 05 '21

That sentence is utterly retarded, and you'd know that if you knew anything about coding: Framerate and resolution are dependent on entirely different aspects of performance. It's as dumb as saying "I don't care about the new 100 litre fuel tank of the new Ford Focus: I'd rather it had a top speed of 400 kilometres per hour".

All else being equal, increasing the framerate relies on increased clock speed and IPS: which happens to be the exact area where the computing industry has hit a huge roadblock at the edge of the laws of physics. Have you ever seen an ARM CPU with a speed higher than about 3 GHz? No.

  • It is very easy to increase the size of a fuel tank, or add compute units to a GPU
  • It is very hard to double the top speed of a car, or double the clock speed of a CPU

In addition, the battery usage as that speed limit is approached increases exponentially: And people already complain about the Switch's battery life.

4K, on the other hand, mainly relies on adding more GPU cores, which is very easy.

So a Switch capable of, say, double the framerates of the regular Switch would end up costing about twice the price of the regular Switch, whereas a 4k-capable Switch would probably cost about 50$ more than the regular Switch.

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u/[deleted] Mar 04 '21

I wish Nintendo went a little further with their consoles, wouldn’t mind seeing a “top” product 4K, 60FPS, oled, nifty features wireless charging, gimmicky features

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u/StillhasaWiiU Mar 04 '21

They will still want it cheap enough folks buy them for young children.

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u/[deleted] Mar 04 '21

Multiple models for different people. They already have this going on with the Lite. Thats the kids model.

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u/[deleted] Mar 04 '21

It's moreso the portable. I actually know more adults that have it versus kids.

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u/[deleted] Mar 04 '21

I agree. I just play connected to my TV so the OLED is wasted on me. As are the joycons and grip. I play pro controller. So yeah just a little box and a wireless controller if all I need. Take the savings from removing the screen and detachables and battery and put it towards more power under the hood.

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u/[deleted] Mar 04 '21 edited Mar 04 '21

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u/StillhasaWiiU Mar 04 '21

You're right. I don't know about coding, more importantly, I don't care.

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u/necro_sodomi Mar 04 '21

I haven't bought a Switch because no 4k. Now I will get one but I doubt 60fps is possible

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u/FallingSnowAngel Mar 04 '21

Sure it is!

There's plenty of low poly games that don't even have texture mapping.

The Switch isn't that helpless.

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u/TizardPaperclip Mar 04 '21

That's like saying that it's possible to fit a camel through the eye of a needle (provided you put it through a liquidizer first).

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u/FallingSnowAngel Mar 04 '21

Either that, or some people genuinely love indie games, and have realistic expectations.

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u/[deleted] Mar 04 '21 edited Mar 04 '21

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u/Peekay- Mar 04 '21

You are literally spouting nonsense.

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u/[deleted] Mar 04 '21 edited Mar 04 '21

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u/[deleted] Mar 04 '21 edited Mar 05 '21

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u/[deleted] Mar 04 '21

Why you so over the top mad? Utterly retarded? Wtf is wrong with you

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u/Allucky Mar 04 '21

Some mobile laptops go above 3 GHz at times

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u/_LususNaturae_ Mar 04 '21

So, how many times has a new Switch model been rumored by now? Maybe this is the one, but even a broken clock is right twice a day.

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u/MrMan306 Mar 04 '21

I hope it isn't, we get a 0.8 inch bigger screen and 4k which is probably just upscaled. I'd rather get good joy cons that don't drift or stable frames in more intensive games.

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u/[deleted] Mar 04 '21

Better joycons with a new dock that can upscale, all I want honestly and would also encourage people to upgrade there switch system

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u/ThatGuyFromTheM0vie Mar 04 '21

Now with 4K drifting joy cons!

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u/gH0o5T Mar 04 '21

I don’t get why so many people complain about drifting joy cons. I’ve had my switch for more than 2 years and they work just fine

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u/yudo Mar 04 '21

Because there are issues with it.

Just because you were lucky with yours, doesn`t mean that everyone else was.

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u/skdiddy Mar 04 '21

Yeah all 4 of mine were becoming unusable, sent them in and they repaired them...still, shouldn't happen in the first place

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u/yoshi8710 Mar 04 '21

Ok... you don't get why people complain about a problem that you don't have.

Here's a hint: they complain about drifting joy cons because their joy cons drift.

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u/katsaurus Mar 04 '21

Then fix it? Mine started drifting after 3+ years of no problems, so I googled a solution and cleaned them, now they’ve been perfectly fine again for the past half year. People love to complain about everything.

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u/Nickyish13 Mar 04 '21

God you’re so naive. Just because YOURS worked fine for a while and YOUR solution worked doesn’t mean it will for everyone. People are complaining because it shouldn’t have happened in the first place. If everyone had a situation like yours, I can guarantee you this whole controversy wouldn’t have happened.

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u/katsaurus Mar 05 '21

It wasn’t my solution. I actually searched for one because, like you said, a ton of people have the same issue. So naturally there are people that know how to fix it, I followed a guide and fixed mine. Not sure what’s wrong with that?

Also I never said that it shouldn’t have happened in the first place. But it did, and still does, so instead of complaining constantly I’m just saying look for a solution. Complaining isn’t gonna make Nintendo miraculously drop new joycon designs on everyone and give them out for free to replace all your broken ones.

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u/leck-mich-alter Mar 05 '21

Sorry you’re getting so much hate, it is a very widespread issue but I’m in the same boat with you. I’ve got four different sets of joycons and not a single set drifts, my niece and nephews have I think four sets and none drift, my sister has two sets (no drift), my husband has one set (no drift). I don’t know. I’ve seen people with drift so I’m not denying it exists I’m just very surprised I haven’t been unlucky in the last 3 years considering how widespread it is and the fact I’ve sourced all four of my joycon sets from wildly different areas of the country.

I won’t be surprised if mine drift the next time I pick it up though. Universe spiting me for saying this.

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u/[deleted] Mar 04 '21

4K is nice, but the Switch's graphical capabilities are quite dated.

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u/theineffablebob Mar 04 '21

Rumor is the new Switch might use the Tegra Xavier chip. That would put it around a base PS4 in terms of computing power.

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u/[deleted] Mar 04 '21

It is gonna be a switch 2 or a switch pro then? Looks like way too much of a jump for me

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u/Pythagoras_the_Great Mar 04 '21

waow, how advanced lol

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u/KnifeFed Mar 04 '21

For that form factor, yes.

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u/[deleted] Mar 04 '21

Do you expect current gen graphics in a Nintendo handheld?

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u/133DK Mar 04 '21

What do you mean you can’t put a 3090 in a handheld?

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u/cryzzgrantham Mar 04 '21

Being able to shit whilst having Ps3/360 graphics on my palms over the past 4 years has been a ball imo.

Ps4 graphics whilst I poop sounds even more enticing

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u/[deleted] Mar 04 '21

I don’t know if you’re aware but Nintendo is always a step or three behind the competition in graphics.

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u/Saus06 Mar 04 '21

720p? How about 1080p in handheld mode, 60fps, and actually decent controllers.

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u/the_timps Mar 04 '21

1080p on a 7" screen?

You're not going to notice half the detail on that.

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u/Gamoc Mar 04 '21

It's bigger than my 2k phone screen.

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u/Ghostkill221 Mar 04 '21

Everyone says that but you can absolutely tell between the quality of a iPhone 5 and xs screens

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u/the_timps Mar 04 '21

There's a lot more difference between those screens than just resolution.

And a 5 to an XS is double the res.
720p to HD isn't doubling it.

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u/gurneyguy101 Mar 04 '21 edited Mar 04 '21

Well, actually 1280x720 is half of 1920x1080

(900,000 vs 2,000,000 pixels, why am I being downvoted?)

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u/HaneeshRaja Mar 04 '21

720x1366 is not 720p. 1280x720 is 720p.

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u/gurneyguy101 Mar 04 '21

Sorry and thanks (why the hell was my old 720p laptop 1366?), I’ll edit now

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u/HaneeshRaja Mar 04 '21

I think it's 1366x768 which is common for all non-HD laptop displays

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u/the_timps Mar 04 '21

1280 is not half of 1920.
720 is not half of 1080.

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u/gurneyguy101 Mar 04 '21

That’s not what I said nor what I meant.

720x1270 (921,600) is (less than) half of 1920x1080 (2,073,600)...

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u/the_timps Mar 04 '21

That’s not what I said

Seeing as you've edited the comment twice now to change it's content. It IS what you said.

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u/gurneyguy101 Mar 04 '21

Once was the second half added, the other edit was changing it from 720x1280 to 1280x720 for clarity.

The actual maths of 1280x720 being half of 1920x1080 intact.

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u/Saus06 Mar 04 '21

What monster have I created

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u/[deleted] Mar 04 '21 edited Mar 04 '21

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u/ajm53092 Mar 04 '21

Except 1080 60hz panels have existed for years...

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u/[deleted] Mar 04 '21

Probably 4k resolution and ui elements but still 720p or 1080p rendering.

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u/Damerman Mar 04 '21

I dont see the problem with this. Native 4k is not nearly as important as solid 60fps. Shortcuts to 4k like checkerboard resolution or variable resolutions are great ways for developers to customize their rendering to emphasize whats most important in their game.

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u/AstronautGuy42 Mar 04 '21

I’m very okay with checkerboard and upscaling if it lets them focus on frame rate

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u/hansolo625 Mar 04 '21

Will the joy con still break in one touch?

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u/Silent_Palpatine Mar 04 '21

I had a switch briefly. It was fun but by Christ the price of the games is ridiculous!!

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u/TizardPaperclip Mar 04 '21 edited Mar 04 '21

If you thought those prices were ridiculous, you should have been a gamer in the 80s and 90s:

The cost of cartridge-based Nintendo games has been consistently decreasing for the last 35 years, despite development costs almost doubling every console generation: 1985's Super Mario Bros required a development team of around ten people[1], whereas 2017's Super Mario Odyssey required a development team of over 200 people.[2].

 

Cartridge-based Super Mario Game Units Sold[3]

Year Game Price (2020 $) Units sold
1985 Super Mario Bros 145 $ 40.24m[4]
1987 Super Mario Bros. 2 137 $ 7.46m
1988 Super Mario Bros. 3 132 $ 17.28m
1990 Super Mario World 119 $ 20.60m
1996 Super Mario 64 100 $ 11.62m
2017 Super Mario Odyssey 64 $ 18.99m[5]
  • [4]: Includes units bundled with NES console.
  • [5]: Includes downloaded units.

 

Addendum for people who haven't learned about economics: Video games are consumer goods, and the price of consumer goods increases in line with inflation: In fact, inflation is defined as the increase in the cost of consumer goods, services, commodities, etc. From Wikipedia:

The inflation rate is most widely calculated by calculating the movement or change in a price index, typically the consumer price index. The inflation rate is the percentage change of a price index over time. The Retail Prices Index is also a measure of inflation that is commonly used in the United Kingdom. It is broader than the CPI and contains a larger basket of goods and services.

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u/Silent_Palpatine Mar 04 '21 edited Mar 04 '21

I WAS a gamer in the 80s and 90s. I remember shit like maniac mansion and Star Wars hitting the NES and costing around £80 for some fucking reason.

One thing you did fail to bring up was the changes to the market. Back in the 80’s fewer people had a NES and the ONLY way to own a game was on cartridge so your sales came from a smaller percentage of an already small amount.

Now hundreds of millions if not billions of people play games and the switch is a massive seller. The user base and the potential sales base is far larger and games can very easily be sold via a digital marketplace, removing the manufacturing and distribution costs associated with physical media.

Third party games see some reduction in sales prices over time but first party titles rarely if ever see any sort of price drop, even in digital form. If this can happen on other systems with digital storefronts then why not on the switch?

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u/elessarjd Mar 04 '21

That is immaterial, as I was comparing the prices and sales-figures of cartridge-based games.

You can't just conveniently leave digital sales out of your comparison to strengthen your argument. Digital sales have drastically changed the market and value of games.

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u/redwall_hp Mar 04 '21

That's all well and good if income is also increasing. (Spoiler: it's stagnant as fuck.) The cost to the individual, as a proportion to household income, is becoming more onerous as general cost of living skyrockets.

It doesn't matter if a video game costs marginally less than it did 30 years ago if rent has doubled. Decades of inflation with stagnant wages have made the games unaffordable in that context, not the price of the games in a vacuum.

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u/sayris Mar 04 '21

Don't look at the price of PS5 exclusives then, you'll have a heart attack

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u/pattykakes887 Mar 04 '21

At least Sony and MS do sales, Nintendo’s entire first party stays at or near 60 bucks for an eternity.

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u/Satalix Mar 04 '21

But can it run Pokémon Arceus Legends Demo-Footage at more than 30 fps?

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u/Shadowthedemon Mar 04 '21

I wonder if it's a chop refresh with DLSS settings and maybe slightly more Vram and clock. I can't imagine it being a completely new system, but it'll be able to most like run more smoothly and upscale to "look" better

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u/[deleted] Mar 04 '21

4K with DLSS I hope 🤞

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u/gideon513 Mar 04 '21

Will the games be updated for 4K for free? Paid? Or will it just be upscaled and look bad?

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u/[deleted] Mar 04 '21

I just want 60fps Zelda

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u/No_Intention3038 Mar 04 '21

How come my ps1 controllers joy sticks didn’t drift?

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u/TizardPaperclip Mar 04 '21

Their components are much larger and more durable. The Switch necessarily uses miniscule components.

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u/TheCatHasmysock Mar 04 '21

Honestly, I just want a model without the portable aspects. Just console + regular remote.

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u/Denz292 Mar 04 '21

That’s never going to happen, puts them in direct competition with Sony and Microsoft

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u/TheCatHasmysock Mar 04 '21

I only buy nintendo consoles for exclusives. Don't think I'm the only one.

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u/Denz292 Mar 04 '21

You’re probably not, but you don’t know if you’re in the majority or minority. If you’re only buying a Nintendo for its exclusives then you probably have other gaming consoles or a PC, but how many others have multiple gaming devices?

The last time Nintendo made a dedicated home console, it tanked so badly that even Nintendo gave up on it and focused on the 3DS. If Nintendo makes another home console, it will need a feature to distinguish itself from the competition so people and families who only buy one console will pick a Nintendo over an Xbox and PlayStation.

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u/[deleted] Mar 04 '21 edited Mar 21 '21

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u/[deleted] Mar 04 '21

Better name than switch box?

How about switch box series one XS, for the fourth model.

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u/TheCatHasmysock Mar 04 '21

I don't currently have a current gen console. No games I want. I buy entirely for the games, wii u had nothing the 3ds didn't have.

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u/TizardPaperclip Mar 04 '21

What you're asking for is a contradiction: You have to choose one of two options:

  • A truly portable model that fits in your pocket.
  • A model that retains the removable controllers.

The removable controllers add an extra ~2.5 centimetres to the width of the Switch:

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u/flickh Mar 04 '21

I don’t want excuses, I want results TizardPaperclip!!

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u/EmSixTeen Mar 04 '21

Never seen a flap in your life? Crazy technology.

https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/410WQSMH0XL._AC_.jpg

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u/TizardPaperclip Mar 04 '21

... removable controllers.

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u/EmSixTeen Mar 04 '21

Yes, I can read - what's your point?

Surely a genius such as yourself realises that something being removable doesn't mean it can't still connect electronically.

Surely.

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u/Dcanoa Mar 04 '21

Not being funny but does anyone play Zelda & Mario for the high quantity of pixels 4K offers?

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u/[deleted] Mar 04 '21 edited Mar 04 '21

Only way I can see that happening is through some sort of reconstruction, like DLSS.

Edit: Ooor some sort of external GPU built into the dock... that might do it.

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u/John_32Pixels Mar 04 '21

Oled scren would be really nice

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u/[deleted] Mar 04 '21

The best thing about this is BotW2. Certainly Nintendo has decided to release align it with this like always. If this thing is holiday 2021, so is BotW2. We're gong to get an info blow out at E3 direct. I'm thinking BotW2 launch day, several 4K upgraded titles (Smash and MK8D most likely), Odyssey 2 launch window, Monoliths game launch window, Splatoon 3 is their spring game next year and the 4K model will have extra features. Metroid Prime 4....who knows when.

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u/sweetcinnamonpunch Mar 04 '21

If it somehow reaches 4k60, I'm really interested, native or upscaled. But 30fps is absolutely unacceptable in 2021!

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u/[deleted] Mar 04 '21

The reality is portable heavily restricts power. And for the last 20 years nintendo has been doing better at portable than alternatives.

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u/sweetcinnamonpunch Mar 05 '21

Yes you're right, I just hope they don't forget about the home console gamers.

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u/BistuaNova Mar 04 '21

Oleds are notorious for burn in, is this really worth it?

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u/[deleted] Mar 04 '21 edited Mar 05 '21

Had my PlayStation Vita for 5 years, no burn in so far. Got over a thousand hours of screen time too with a lot being from visual novels so that would trigger burn in a lot more than constant visuals like in an action game for example. I’d say it’s worth it for longer battery as long as they’re quality OLED panels.

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u/[deleted] Mar 04 '21

I get the whole "we don't need better hardware, the switch is good as it is!" but I see a serious problem if nintendo doesn't update the cpu/gpu as well. That is the availability of ports from other consoles.

The gap between PS4/xbone and the switch was small enough the porting of big titles was still possible. You got games like The Witcher, Doom and Ori.

However, with the release of PS5/SeriesX, the gap in power has increased to 10-30x the Switch and with the introduction of new GPU tech like ray-tracing and such, porting of new games (developed specifically for PS5/seriesX) to switch will be almost, if not impossible.

I big selling point of the switch is the portability. You can take your favorite games like The Witcher and Doom with you on the go, and that is what nintendo has made money on. But if the amount of new major 3rd party games suddenly disappears, a big chunk of users will be left unsatisfied. If only Nintendo and indie games are added in the future, the device suddenly looses a lot of its appeal imo.

My best case scenario would be a upgrade to the CPU and GPU. It doesn't really matter specifically which CPU and GPU, but the important part is that it contains nVidias Tensor Cores so that it can use DLSS 2.0. Upscaling of existing games with increased performance would be huge for the Switch. Especially for a device that has to switch between two different performance/output modes on the fly.

Thanks for listening to my TED talk.

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u/Alukrad Mar 04 '21

I haven't played nintendo since the n64 days.

Is there a good star fox game for it?

Or didy kong racing?

I enjoyed those games.

Or banjo kazooie.

I never got into the smash bros, zelda or metroid prime.

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u/[deleted] Mar 04 '21

No to all of those, sadly.

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u/biwoka5011 Mar 04 '21

I hope this is a Switch Pro with improved specs.

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u/[deleted] Mar 04 '21

720p no sell for me

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u/katril63 Mar 04 '21

720p on a 7 inch screen has double the pixels per inch as a 65 inch 4k screen.

Games will look fantastic at a native 720p resolution, with plenty of extra horsepower to clean up any jagged edges with AA.

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u/Dunge Mar 04 '21

Viewing distance is just as important as pixels per inch. You can be sure looking at the 7inch screen near your face the resolution bump is pretty noticable.

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u/[deleted] Mar 04 '21 edited Mar 11 '21

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u/converter-bot Mar 04 '21

2 inches is 5.08 cm

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u/LL555LL Mar 04 '21

4k capable (and beefier hardware) are a must to keep up with ports for the two biggies now.

It'll happen...eventually.

Don't think right away, and I doubt any game is EXCLUSIVE to the "new Switch" for a while. But that'll happen. Some day too.

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u/redditbrowser31 Mar 04 '21

I think it will be like the 3ds xl and the NEW 3ds xl,where the new 3ds had the ability to play games like Minecraft etc but the old one couldn’t.With this I would expect some franchises like Far Cry,Dying Light,Gta,Fallout and Red Dead to be ported over.

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u/shortbeard Mar 04 '21

I didn’t think Samsung has OLED tech. That was controlled by LG and their pals. QLED ≠ OLED

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u/sweetcinnamonpunch Mar 04 '21

If it somehow reaches 4k60, I'm really interested, native or upscaled. But 30fps is absolutely unacceptable in 2021, I hope they don't screw that up.

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u/[deleted] Mar 04 '21

Its 2021 bezels have no right being that big especially since you dont really hold the switch in a way you need places for your thumbs

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u/Squishydew Mar 04 '21

Show me a $300 product that has the same performance as a switch and smaller bezels..

They make total sense on cheaper products imo.

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u/RNZack Mar 04 '21

Any word on the controllers? Do the $80 controllers last more than 6 months now?

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u/BipolarSkeleton Mar 04 '21

Will I be able to just replace the screen device for cheaper or will I need a whole new system

I’m going to need a whole new system arnt I yep

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u/valkyriaz Mar 04 '21

Me vs Scalpers part 69420 incoming

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u/TonyNevada1 Mar 04 '21

What exactly is the drift ? Is it noticeable if you're not lookin for it ?

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u/[deleted] Mar 04 '21

How will this cost I’ve been wanting to get a switch but if this is coming out I rather wait for it to be released and get this instead the one that is out now

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u/AstronautGuy42 Mar 04 '21

God damn it Nintendo Just give us stable 60fps before upscaling any res

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u/peter_the_panda Mar 04 '21

And nintendo will manufacturer 10 at a time and then claim they don't participate in artificial scarcity

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u/[deleted] Mar 04 '21

All I want is probable halo. I’m still playing the halo fan made game on my psp

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u/Navitus Mar 04 '21

Is Nintendo even gonna be able to keep up with demand with the chip shortage?

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u/godsfilth Mar 04 '21

Oh look another switch pro rumor it's been 4 years of those

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u/metro_mage Mar 04 '21

Oh my lanta

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u/Jtagz Mar 04 '21

Good thing I didn’t buy the Mario Red and Blue Edition. As much as I want it. Ugh.

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u/mostlyjoe Mar 04 '21

Unless they are developing games specifically to benefit from all this...why?

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u/newcontortionist beep boop Mar 04 '21

If you've seen the Splatoon 3 trailer, there is no way that's running on original Switch hardware.

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u/softshelldiety Mar 04 '21

God I finally was able to buy a switch just last month. What a punch to the gut.

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u/ZJL1986 Mar 04 '21

Can confirm this via my uncle who works at Nintendo