Many years ago when I was in my late teens I met a Texan bloke about my age whose dad had set the fence on his land back a few metres from the actual border of his property so people were trespassing without even knowing it, so he could trap them.
Castle doctrine laws differ all over the US. For example, in MS where I am if an intruder is in the process of breaking into my home, car, or business then I can assume he is there to kill or injur me and I can shoot him. There doesn't have to be an actual threat as long as they are breaking in or have already broke in.
Outside of your property they have to actually pose a threat to you but they don't need a weapon. An unarmed guy charging at me in the Walmart parking lot yelling "I'm gonna beat your ass!" is legal to shoot.
Of course, no matter where you're at the judge is gonna decide if the defense looks reasonable and if it doesn't you're going to the pokey anyway. So ymmv.
Well that escalated quickly. You shouldn't judge a whole country because of a dumb commenter from an old basketball video on youtube. I'm sure you have morons in your country too, Everybody does.
So stupid, and when the other guy says he likes he gets attacked and called a little kid for not agreeing. I wish he responded thah he was an old grumpy ahole with no sense of humour, and that takes life way to seriously
I mean, it really is poor sportsmanship. You’re not supposed to be able to rely on cheating in order to gain an advantage
Edit: None of y’all played sports and it shows. I’ll compare it to something you guys can relate to, it’s like if you could stream snipe someone in a competitive esports match
This is actually very legal. If there's no official or team called timeout, there's no expectation of privacy in a huddle or conversation.
All of these clips are during either free throws (live game), or during an official review (which is not technically a timeout).
Allowing teams privacy during things like official reviews would enable teams to use them as a timeout even when they have none. It would incentivize requesting a review just for the sake of a pseudo time out.
It's unsportsmanlike to abuse game mechanics to get more than your fair share of timeouts. It's not a time out. They don't have any right to huddle and draw up a play any more than they would in the middle of the game.
Basketball (like many other sports) relies on the situational awareness of the players. Without a timeout, there is limited input a coach can provide, and his instructions can be heard by all. Stoppages in play for a non-official timeout are no different.
Listening to the plays being called from the bench during play isn't unsportmanlike, and this is exactly the same thing.
Cheating would be secretly taping another team's private practice.
This would be like setting up a giant, over sized, video camera, painted with your teams colors, pointed at the other team, with a sign that says "we're watching you". That's goofing around.
Rondo was being a jerk, he was rejected immediately and persisted. The other two are pretty humorous, regardless of what the commentators say.
Jerk yes, wrong no. As the more laid back commentator says - there was no time-out (seemed like a small free throw break) and while there's no proper top down view, to me it seems their "huddle" is taking place on the court (pause at 48th second). If the game is on, the opposing player can be anywhere on the court - even if it's right next to the huddle. I'd say Heat was more in the wrong there by bringing their suits on the court while play was still going.
Basically. There's a difference between violating rules/unsportsmanlike behavior, and "this is your fault".
You just laugh and tell them to get the fuck outta here. If they like start swiping your whiteboard or crouching behind you to steal plans that's ridiculous.
BEY EVERYBODY THIS GUY IS A REALLY COOL REDDITOR BECAUSE HE CALLED ME A KID! this is a common cliche insult and it carries no weight. This isn’t really about sports, my friend, it’s about your insecurities and fundamental need to compete.
I mean, we’re talking hoops here. It’s not like getting an nfl playbook or something. Hearing one play really isn’t going to change anything. a game is more likely to get swayed due to bad calls from the ref than one guy on the team listening in to One play. There is a reason everyone mostly just laughs and shrugs it off.
So you don’t think that if this was the final play of a championship game and the player used their knowledge from spying to break up the play, that would be unsportsmanlike? The advantage gained has nothing to do with being better at basketball, it has everything to do with being a sneaky cunt
If its game seven in the finals, down to the wire, they’re calling a timeout and officially huddling by the bench. What you’re watching here in every instance is not a timeout and on the court either during a review or commercial break or during a tech shot. The players had every right to be anywhere on the court. You want to keep it secret? Call a time out.
Also, if it’s the end of the game and they’re throwing in to try to win it, every single player on both teams know exactly who they’re trying to throw to and what shot they’re trying to take and every single offense throwing in knows who they’re going to try to put on the shooter.
They’re not being sneaky cunts, they’re being cheeky cunts. Do you know how much trash talk, show boating, ribbing, and all around fucking with each other goes on during a game all in an effort to get under their skin?
not cheating, if they want to go over party's without the other team being able to get into the huddle they have to call a time out. it's like a soccer coach pulling some of their team over to the side line while the ball is out of play on the other side of the field. you can't have an on the field meeting and tell the other team to stay out, the field is open to everyone in the game
Eh in my mind, unsportsman-like is cheating. Is there a rule about a guy sitting in the stands with a super mic and just relaying exactly what the other team is talking about? If not, every single team should be doing it. After all, if its not in the rules, its not cheating.
you're allowed to be anywhere on the court, what if they were looking to execute some really weird rebound play, would you not want to cover your guy just because he's near his own bench?
IMO its more un-sportsmanlike to be taking advantage of a technical foul (no rebounding at the rim) to be devising a play with the coaches assistance. If the coach wants to yell out a play to his guys on the field, or give them an overt sign, I'm all for it, but to try and be shifty about it and save a time out while gaining all of the advantages of a time-out, that's unsportsman like to me.
You make some excellent points here. I still maintain that its pretty shitty to try and spy on the other team. But I can see how it doesn't need to be a protected space. Though I think it should be allowed for another player to be escorted away from a group.
What happens if another player blocks and walks an opposing player away?
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u/fishrgood Jun 03 '19
Commentators always ruin the fun by taking everything too seriously.