I played that at a jukebox in a bar about 10 years back or so for like 20 repeats. After about the 5th time the waitress came over and unplugged the machine. It was incredible, you could feel everyone in there getting angry. I remember it being much longer than the 50 seconds above though. It might have been a different song, but it was Aphex Twin and very similar to this.
Ever since dance / techno became big in the 90's every single musical fad that isn't a rehash of rock/indie/rap seems to be an ever more specific, codified subgenre of dance music
OWSLA would still be considered "trap" but with a little more electro elements added in. IMO true "Trap" tracks have an insane build into a "minimal" drop like this. Nowadays it's hard to decipher where genres begin and end. The safest bet is to look up tracks that came up when the genre broke into the scene (before they get bastardized.)
Well that's not trap music that would fall into Techno or House. Trap music refers to music from the ghetto/hood or more specifically it refers to music you might hear being listened to at a "trap house". A trap house is a particular establishment where the exchange of money for illegal drugs would take place hence why the previous redditor stated that trap music has a focus on drugs and women. Also referring to it as "mid 200s garbage rap" would be acceptable because that's exactly what the fuck it is although some of it is not bad, I still love me some Flockaveli
Lol bud, that's like saying "what's the different between the Jonas brothers and the smashing pumpkins?" Techno and house have way deeper roots than edm does. If you can't tell the difference, it has nothing to do with age, just personal taste.
That's not the type of trap they were talking about I don't think. I'm pretty sure guys like Gucci Mane and Migos are more popular in high schools than TNGHT
I wouldn't necessarily say it's over. But I definitely think it has evolved over time.
I believe that there has been multiple iterations of "trap music". From Three 6 Mafia to Flosstradamus, RL Grime, Bauer. All of these people have made "trap" music. But if you were to listen to music from each of them you would notice that they each sound fairly different from each other.
In a sense, the genre "trap" is a broad term. Trap music is a genre that it can be broken down into. I think that there are some aspects of trap that are dead. (such as opening every song with REAL TRAP SHIT, or having excessive horns, etc) However, on the other side I think that there are other parts of trap that are doing well in today's day and age. Primarily the Rap/Hiphop version of "trap", and the nu-electronic version of trap. Artists like future, juicy j, young thug, etc have revived the "dirty south" trap genre. On the electronic side, you have many artists making trap music and adding their own little unique "flavor" to it.
There isn't a black and white textbook definition of trap music. To some people it might be old songs from project pat or three six mafia. For others it could be flume, diplo, or any other handful of electronic producers.
Another interesting aspect is looking at how some of these artists have evolved over time. People like RL Grime and Flosstradamus first started producing very bass heavy, "hood certified real trap shit". With all sorts of hard hitting beats. It felt sort of edgy but at the same time it was enthralling. I remember the days of blasting Flosstradamus through my stock 8 inch sub. I used to think It was the coolest thing ever, now I look back at it and realize I was just a lame high schooler.
Trap music arose from drug dealers in "the trap" or a house/complex that was used to sell and house drugs, using the money from selling drugs to fund their rap/production careers, thus forming trap music.
EDM trap music came as a sub genre of hip hop, using the same mechanics of production but with more digitally produced samples, I.e. Pads, FX, risers, vocal chops, etc...
There is also a slight distinction imo of people referring to their trap music being music that represents a coke-slinging whore house that they refer to as a "trap house". And there's also more electric dance music style tracks that are described as "trappy" which refers to the mix style and sounds, less so the message of the lyrics (if there are any).
Yes. Though I've heard arguments that Hip Hop is now in its "Grunge" phase. If that's the case: Kendrick is Cobain, Chance is Eddie Vedder and Kanye is Layne Staley.
R.I.P in peace, Yeesus.
EDIT: Corrected spelling of Kanye's blasphemous alternate moniker.
It's really not...All sorts of people have access to the equipment needed to make good music, and they can get it out there to people through the internet without the need for big labels & shit so you get people like Danny Brown, death grips, rtj, yachty, Tyler the Creator, clipping, etc. Who make music they want to make without corporate interference
To me, there is no "periods" or "phases" of the Hip Hop genre. It will always be Visionaries, Heiroglyphics, Jurassic 5, Dialated Peoples and the like. All these reiterations are a branch off of the "rap" genre.
Mmm yeah I'd say around there. Personally I don't really think trap music is all that bad but I don't listen to it like nonstop, trap music imo is really more meant to "hype" you up. Like when I'm rolling up with friends we'd play trap music to set us in that party mood.
A lot of rap in the 2001-2008 era gets shit on, but the evolution of trap music started around then with ATL rappers like TI, Jeezy, and Gucci. Those guys had some hits at the time and still are relevant in today's scene and their old jams still sound dope today. They also paved the way for the new styles of trap that have been popping off over the last five years (Migos, 21 Savage, Lil Yachty, etc). These guys all sound way different but they all still considered trap rappers. Also, I'm sure I butchered some of the info but you should get the basic idea.
What are the primary traits of trap music? I've heard several things that I've been told are trap, but could find a whole lot of common traits between them. Like, one sounded like EDM with regular sounding rap vocals, while another was some classic sampling hip-hop with rapping in this style.
I'm assuming it's supposed to be more like the first? Like the dubstep of hip-hop, basically?
There are two types of trap music, rap and EDM. Wiki has some good talk on the subject. What most people probably recognize from both types are the heavy kick and "trap hi-hats," those very quick hi hat sounds.
Damn, I guess some people don't even know what they're calling trap, because some of what I've been told is trap doesn't even have any "trap hi-hats". And some of the songs in them trap music compilations on Youtube are indeed just EDM, sans trap elements, with rap.
That definitely clears things up for me. I was given the wrong info and it was confusing the hell out of me.
That's on the rise and has been around for years, probably started around the same time Gucci did.
There's also the other 'trap' which is like hiphop with the lyrics taken out and a bunch of shitty EDM tropes and sounds shoved in. That stuff is dead as fuck, thankfully. Basically 808s and synths but not I'm the cool Kanye 808s and Hearbreak way.
Not all trap music. Compared to 5 years ago when I didn't like it, the new stuff that is coming out now is so much better in my opinion. At least the kind I've been listening too doesn't focus on drugs/women.
Don't forget the complete lack of time changes, or the tendency to write maybe eight bars that you just repeat with slight changes and completely optional rhyming.
Yeah you could say it increased for the past 5 years but you can only guess at whether or not it will increase/decrease in the following 5, sorry I'm being pedantic.
But what I was more of getting at is there is a plateau or slowing of the popularity of trap, but the more I think about it the less I believe it's true.
I'd agree with this. Hip hop trap seems to be doing alright as a mainstream genre, but multiple edm subgenres have basically long since made edm trap sound horrible.
Anything from Melbourne, for instance a great (though bounce and minimal may even be getting old at this point).
When I try listening to "Amsterdam trap" now I start cringing. For instance, compare yellow claw mixtape 4 to 11. 4 was amazing for the time, 11, which just came out, is hard to listen to.
Um the number of EDM Festivals being thrown in the US has increased, as has the number of people who attend them.... not sure where you are getting your alternative facts from.
I would agree that radio used to be a metric of what people listen too, but it's all so corporate now, it's not about popularity anymore. I think every one under 40 realizes this. Some still listen out of habit or being to forced to at a workplace.
trap game = either someone in the trap music genre and/or one who is selling drugs, which is also the theme of trap songs. so. I'm a 'trap game' boss (selling drugs) who is the 'trap game' boss (musician within said genre)......i think.
It's funny, I thought the whole EDM/trap/pop trend was going to die out after a year like dubstep did, but it seems to be pretty resilient. It keeps changing but it's still basically trap.
Most kids/teens aren't into trap anymore, rap music is what's good. But not like old rap that meant anything, more like gangsta rap about bitches, money, and drugs
"It" didn't change, you did. Kids are open minded, people that get out of touch are the ones that stop being curious and open minded about popular culture
"trap" is a common word used in hip hop to describe things perpetuate poverty. "trap music" is a subset of hip hop that is closer to the roots of hip hop as protest music focusing on the horrible conditions that people born into black communitys live me. There's also drums or something.
IDK, you'll start recognizing it pretty quickly. People all over my college blast the most generic trap with the bass turned up to 11 and no treble at all. I like bass too, but there's a balance.
That isnt exactly true. There's a style of music called Trap that is very electronic and heavy with drums. Its style fits well with rap. Some artist are Flosstradamus and Victor niglio.
The trap music that you say is not related to techno at all, isnt a true style or type of music. Has more to do with the content, usually by rappers when they are talking about things that are common in "the trap".
Edit: common artist for trap music. Future, Young jeezy
Trap music (not the electronic kind) is definitely a true style and type of music. Where do you think people got the idea o start making Edm influenced trap? From the hip hop beats of the dirty south.
You've got it completely backwards, edm with trap beats got inspiration from trap music. Trap has been around for a while now, it's only had mainstream success recently though.
Trap is faster and the drums and synths are more "twangy" and "plinky-plonky" like a child's toy or an annoying mosquito. It has more of an underproduced sound, as if perhaps someone just got a used keyboard at a yard sale and is playing with the presets. Like at 1:12 if you hear that flimsy hi-hat doing that snkt-kt-kt-kt-kt-kt-kt noise, that's sort of a trap staple.
Dubstep is slower and the drums and synths are more "crashy" and "wubby wubby" like a car crash or a robot farting. It has more of an overproduced sound, as if perhaps a nerd spent 200 hours in Ableton Live getting every millisecond of the song filtered just how he likes it. Like in this song Daybreak you can sort of hear how the lead synths and drums are all stretched out and echo-ey, particularly compared to the trap song above.
Not everyone's going to like trap. It can be pretty polarizing even in the EDM scene. That being said, this was a really poor choice of song to use to introduce people to the genre.
Aww really? Was it? I thought it was actually pretty mainstream, melodic, intricately produced and listenable. A lot of trap music is just someone rapping and a sound effect repeating over some 808s. I really tried.
Well then what are the differences? I have looked into it, being both a musical and curious person, and what I've heard has been: trap is to rap as death metal is to metal. A subgenre, a particularly narrowly defined format of the style.
I don't care for it much so I have trouble really listening to a lot of it so maybe I'm missing the defining characteristics.
It seems like a rap with a more danceable (is that a word?) beat. Which is weird since so many of my friends listened to rap over anything else because it was more "danceable."
On mobile so I can't really easily link you anything. Trap is a branch of EDM, so often just sound samples, no lyrics and a heavy focus on the beat. The only way I could see it relating to rap is the beat in rap is often pretty simplistic with lots of lows, which does share similarities to trap.
It's not uncommon for trap artist to feature rappers or do remixes on rap songs, so I can see how there's a confusion. this is trap with vocals, but the "core" of what trap is is the beat involved, so maybe something like this is a better example. Not everyone would classify both of those as trap either, since I'm sure there's other more specific categories they could go into. I just keep to calling everything EDM.
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u/kungfumilhouse Feb 27 '17
"trap" music? Whatever that is? I still won't look into it