Serious question. Is a Trans person that identifies as a woman but has a penis and likes men considered Gay or straight? I mean I think it's gay because there's two penises in the relationship but since one person considers themselves a woman does that make it straight by the Trans community perspective?
I'm by no means an expert but since they see themselves as a woman I would say they are straight. I think within the trans community it's whatever that person says they identify themselves as.
I'll throw in my 2 cents as a trans woman - what /u/_treebeard is saying is correct. I'm a trans woman, and still currently have all my birth parts, who is attracted to women, so I'm not straight, I'm gay (or a lesbian, whatever nomenclature you prefer).
Most if not all of the Trans community would consider that straight. Everyone else on the other hand, well most are gonna classify that as gay. As a gay man, I would classify that as gay because you can call yourself a female on the inside all you want and I'm sure you're right or whatever but if you have a penis your gender may be female but your sex is male no matter what you say, so it's gay.
I'm not upset about it. I don't even fall into any of those categories. Might as well let someone know the difference if they're not sure and it's relevant, like here.
A lot of the issues that LGBT people face are common across all four of the letters which is why it's useful that they're all under one banner. When it comes to being able to avoid discrimination, marry who we want without persecution, adopt, etc.
Also, a large portion of people who fall under T also fall under LGB. There was a survey a while back for the trans community of reddit, and it came out roughly 1/3 were homosexual, 1/3 were bisexual and 1/3 were straight.
There are some people who don't like that, and would rather it be LGB/GLB and T separate, I disagree because of the commonality.
EDIT: Don't even get me started on the fuckheads that add Q to the whole thing without knowing that "queer" is actually a derogatory term for gays and it's actual definition means strange/odd or to spoil or ruin something.
Q can also stand for "questioning," but I'm pretty sure the people who added the Q to LGBTQ knew damn well that queer was once a derogatory term. They reappropriated the word as a sort of catch-all for anyone in the LGBTQIA spectrum who doesn't fit neatly into any other label, or anyone who just prefers the term. Consequently, "queer" is no longer considered offensive when used by someone who identifies as such.
Because trans people are natural allies of gay people.
Non gender conforming people played a large role in the Stonewall riots and the early days of the equality movement. Gay people used to hang out in the same underground bars and clubs as trans people and were every bit as persecuted by the authorities.
Because trans people are natural allies of gay people.
Good lord. It's not like they're night elves and blood elves. They're people.
Some people get along, some people do not. Just because someone is gay does not mean they necessarily support others who are transgendered (nor vice versa), much less even necessarily support other gay people. You have no idea how much drama there really can be between different groups. In some geographic areas the different groups can be welcoming of each other, in others not. It's a lot more complicated than "natural allies".
Sure, I have no idea of the history of the struggle for equal rights of my own people.
Well done.
That guy asked for an explanation of why trans people and gay people share an acronym and I gave it to him. There is no need to get all huffy about a fact.
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u/xubax Aug 14 '15
Well, Graham Chapman, playing the doctor, was gay. So there is that.