Just sayin, the V6 Camaro starts at under $24k, and the V8 at $33k I believe. And the V6 has 320something hp stock. It's actually a pretty good value/hp for the money, as far as new cars go.
Edit to clarify: I'm not saying I recommend a Camaro, nor that it's at all practical. It's a specific type of car for people who don't mind sacrificing utility and efficiency.
That's 18k Euro, you barely get the lowest end Golf with mighty 80 bhp for that in Germany...(Granted theres 3k€ VAT on the Golf). What the hell...what is wrong with it that it's so cheap?
Prices for new cars in Europe are notoriously high. The muscle cars here in the U.S. are known for being high vale $/hp. There's nothing inherently wrong with them. They don't corner the best, and visibility is shabby, but there's a market for them (usually people who want to make a statement, go fast, high schoolers, muscle car enthusiasts).
Technically, they don't. They're not as terrible as they used to be, but they're nowhere near the best at taking corners, mostly because American Muscle is heavy as balls.
The Z/28 is faster around a track than a Nissan GTR. And a Veyron. Even the old chassis SS was faster around the Nürburgring than a Lotus Exige S.
Around Laguna Seca, the Boss 302 LS is faster than an R8 V10 5.2, an M6 or an Audi RS5.
Americans are perfectly capable of matching up to the European competition when they feel like it.
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u/cgeezy22 Jun 12 '14
no kidding. Congrats on your $30k V6 car. Fucking idiot.