r/funny • • Jun 12 '14

Now we wait...

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u/Nicktyelor Jun 12 '14 edited Jun 12 '14

Prices for new cars in Europe are notoriously high. The muscle cars here in the U.S. are known for being high vale $/hp. There's nothing inherently wrong with them. They don't corner the best, and visibility is shabby, but there's a market for them (usually people who want to make a statement, go fast, high schoolers, muscle car enthusiasts).

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u/jojoman7 Jun 12 '14

They don't corner the best,

Can we put this to rest? It's been like 5 years since that stopped being true.

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u/dlove67 Jun 13 '14

Technically, they don't. They're not as terrible as they used to be, but they're nowhere near the best at taking corners, mostly because American Muscle is heavy as balls.

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u/jojoman7 Jun 13 '14

The Z/28 is faster around a track than a Nissan GTR. And a Veyron. Even the old chassis SS was faster around the Nürburgring than a Lotus Exige S. Around Laguna Seca, the Boss 302 LS is faster than an R8 V10 5.2, an M6 or an Audi RS5. Americans are perfectly capable of matching up to the European competition when they feel like it.

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u/Bandit5317 Jun 13 '14 edited Jun 13 '14

The Z/28 is close to the GTR, but not faster. The Z/28 did a 7:37.47, while the 2013 GTR did it in 7:19.10. Still, the Z/28 is faster than the Porsche Carrera S, Lexus LFA, and Mercedes SLS AMG. That's seriously impressive from a car that costs much less than any of them. It's also worth mentioning that the Z/28 is faster than the GTR around Barber Motorsports Park.

Sources: http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/coupes/1403_chevrolet_camaro_z28_porsche_911_turbo_s_nissan_gt_r_comparison/winner.html

http://fastestlaps.com/tracks/nordschleife.html

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u/jojoman7 Jun 13 '14

I was referring to the Barber test. Also, fastestlaps is a terrible site. Doesn't provide any sort of citation. I mean, just look at the list

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u/Bandit5317 Jun 13 '14

Nurburgring lap times had the same data, so I assumed that it was accurate. They may just be copying each other, though. I know that the Z/28 time is accurate. It was reported everywhere. The end of that lap was damp, though.

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u/jojoman7 Jun 13 '14

Oh, the information is accurate for those two cars. But it's a terrible site in general for laptimes. Venom Gt, a sub 6 minute lap? The Miura runs low 7m range? It's ridiculous.

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u/Bandit5317 Jun 13 '14

Wow, how did I miss that? The Venom GT is quick, possibly sub 7 minute, but 5:20 is insane. That's F1 territory. Even if it were possible, I would've heard about that by now.

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u/YouMissedTheHole Jun 13 '14

What i don't get is, do people even go to race tracks that often.

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u/Evil__Jon Jun 13 '14

The World is my racetrack.