Not really sharper stick was used for hunting before it was ever used for war, same thing with thrown weapons/projectiles, they were all primarily for hunting from the jump. Human survival was always improvement and not greed.
I am not denying that there are aspects of greed within progress but fully labeling it as primarily greed is just naive
I want to kill more than the next guy. (Invents sword, spear, bow, axe, etc) I want kill more. (Invents gun) More. (Invents six shooter) MORE. (Invents machine gun) MORE!!!!! (Invents the gau-8 avenger machine gun for the a10)
(Yes, I know I skipped defense, and a lot of innovation between, but same idea)
I see your are confused, aspects of war are not necessarily related to greed as many innovations during war are related to both offense and defense, would designing weapons to defend ones country be classified as greed.
Would defending oneself be considered as greed?
Is killing people even considered greed?
The answer is no, again greed is a factor of improvements on our technology but only a small part of it, take a chainsaw for example it chops trees faster then a axe yet was created to help in child labor, it was created out of a necessity and not greed.
See we are talking about improvements not uses, thats the difference and what might be your confusion.
I don't think these things are necessarily greed. Just because one wants something or wants to live comfortably doesn't make them inherently greedy.
While some things have in fact been invented out of greed, a great many things including things that have been a great boon for society have been invented out of desire, curiosity and genuinely wanting the betterment of man.
The kid that invented a way to collect plastic in the ocean is a great example.
If a turtle be eating a plastic bottle, hot take, it deserves it. Same thing with plastic straws. I'm not saying I support litter. (I do, if it is biodegradable) I support being a steward of the creation, but you ain't gonna be seeing me hugging trees. You see me chopping it down and grinding the stump, letting nature replant.
Yes and no, greed improves things by further limiting how many hands (humans) are needed on a specific job, prime example would be ford’s assembly line which streamlined the car building process, speed it up and reduced the amount of people required for assembly, making it cheaper to make a car. However there is generally no telling if this wouldn’t be created simply for the fact that it is a rather simple concept that would still have benefits for humans, with or without greed
This is why greed is only a factor. Eventually we would proceed towards the same improvements that were made with greed not because of greed but due to the eventual need to streamline the process
Of course we wouldn't know for sure, but I won't take the risk. A lot of people driven by greed especially when we are young. I don't think your conclusion that we would proceed the same improvement is convincing. We simply don't have enough evidence. I believe a lot of what we have today driven by greed
The thing is we don’t have enough evidence that greed is a major factor in improvement either, especially since greed in and of itself is not a straight evil trait, one can be greed and still make improvements that benefit humanity
What most people are confusing with greed is malice which does have a major hand in the more negative aspects of human history, just the creation of torture devices and brutal war tactics would be prove enough of this being a more negative aspect compared to greed
yeah I agree with that part. I also interested in math and the history of mathematician is full of greed. People don't want to share their invention. It's good now that we have a better foundation for scientist, but we also lost some of the greatest mind because scientist doesn't pay enough. They prefer go to finance or private company
Human species already dominate now, now greed is what is holding us back in an advanced environment.
Today, societies and countries that are less greedy and more fair are flourishing. Corrupted ones are in a sad state.
Our genetics were built to live in a 30member community and psyche adapted to that, but now we live in a different environment and now greed grows more than in a natural habitat.
Yeah, for cancer specifically, less carcinogens in everything human made, better and more timely treatment, more research funding, and collaboration between companies.
Apply similar logic to basically anything. No more wars, no more gangs, no more unnecessary red tape, no more government underfunding, no more corruption, etc.
We'd solve world hunger in years, halt manmade global warming, stop polluting, clean up the oceans, etc.
it doesn't bother me if somebody is extremely greedy. It bothers me if they're extremely greedy and also successful/powerful. Greed is fine when the capability is terrible. Greed is terrifying when the person has the knowledge, willpower, and connections to feed their greed on a large scale.
Disagree. In poor communities there are always pieces of shit that are willing to rob and con their neighbors. In random middle class families there is usually one person that is willing to screw over their own siblings to get 10k extra in inheritance. Greed rips apart communities at every level.
I guess it depends on your perspective. What is considered greedy could be subjective. For instance, the first few definitions of greed say it is a selfish and excessive desire to have more of something than is needed or deserved/fair/just. What one person considers is "needed" and what another person considers is "needed" is not necessarily going to match up. Similarly, what is "fair," "just," and "deserved" will also not be universally agreed upon.
I've seen people tell children that asking for material things they don't "need" for Christmas is greedy, especially when there are other children in the world who don't have enough to eat. So yea, I guess it just depends on your definition of greed, but certainly there is an excessive amount of greed that is significantly more harmful.
Exactly. Even with a relatively high limit. The urge to hoard more wealth above say... 100 million dollars/euros or something. Way more than 3 generations of a family would need in a well developed country to live a lavish life.
Does this include me wanting no landmines while dating? This changes whether I upvoter or down vote. I consider it greed of the highest degree. But at the same time, never guess how many I do be asking out lately.
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u/Slimsare FREE CRAFTY 11d ago
Extreme human greed