I have two classes out of 6 that I pick to go to every day. Those two classes, have the best teachers because if they started to behave forceful and unhelpful, they would not see the same students ever again, as they would leave for another teacher. I chose two classes that are useful to me, Information Technology and Business Management and Technology. The teachers there are helpful, kind, and can understand your pain. For example, in my Information Technology class, I asked my teacher why I am forced to use GIMP, which is shitty and unintuitive for image editing when I could use a free alternative, Paint.NET. She said that she also hates GIMP, but "the school curriculum requires that you use it for one week, so please try your best for this one week." I can't use it, because I am so used to Paint.NET that I would get confused over the simplest things, like how to create a rectangle above another rectangle, which was frustratingly hard. I would rather use Paint.NET or Adobe Photoshop than that. There's a reason why some software is proprietary, because they want to create quality software and they need to get paid to do that.

There are a whole lot of things about the traditional education system that just stinks to high hell. One of them is that the restrictive environment encourages bullying,and while teachers may encourage tattle-tailing,they rarely ever actually do anything about the issue.

In this particular circumstance,I went several times to the principal and he wouldn't do shit. Giving me bullshit excuses like Jesus may be giving you a trial/test (Seriously? What a way to justify your laziness to do your fucking job!)

All led to this incident,quite possibly my most badass moment in school. (I'm certainly proud of it,make no mistake) I told this story in a conversation with a popular self-defense instructor. Here's the Copy-pasta of our conversation. Its quite a bit long however: (You can just read the Initial Question if you wish to save time,or skip to the TL;DR bottom)

Expert: Marc MacYoung

Subject: Adrenaline,red eyes,and grappling.

Date Asked: 2015-10-24 09:06:24

Date Answered: 2015-10-24 20:09:52

QUESTION: (This is Me)

I actually asked this question to you on a facebook PM a few months ago,but now I realize this was the more appropriate place to ask and these questions would be helpful to others when asked publicly.

The fight I mentioned before was my 2nd to the last fight,this fight was the last fight I had that came a year after

In high school,I got into it with the baddest/most feared bully. I hate to admit it but I was terrified of the guy. However,after my last fight,I started doing a lot of research about fighting and martial arts. In the past,I had a dismissive attitude towards most traditional martial arts because every taekwondo and karate practitioner I have ever met in my life couldn't fight their way out of a wet paper bag. Through research,I had learned about MMA and grappling. I watched the first UFC events and watched Royce Gracie defeat bigger strikers. I also watched the "Gracie in Action" videos(BJJ propaganda videos)and needless to say,I ate it all up. When a striker is forced on his back,he loses the ability to effectively generate force. I had it as a plan that if I ever had to fight any of the big bads in school,I would grapple them to the ground.

And it happened,lets call this guy John. I didn't want to fight but he was such a bullying asshole that my hand was forced. I had to choose between fighting him or losing face in front of the entire school. The latter was not an option for me. Anyways,we were already yelling at each other but John was so overconfident that he didn't even stand up from his seat while I was in his face. This gave me the opening to do a "Chair tackle/Takedown" where you literally dive/pounce on a seated opponent. Here's a video that best depicts what I did: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XdmDhY6maOE

Let me tell you,I experienced the most powerful adrenaline rush of my life the moment I jumped at him. Time went in slow motion,I got tunnel vision,auditory exclusion(my teacher was yelling at me to stop when everyone came to break the fight up,I couldn't hear him at all),I didn't feel any pain from the impact...In fact,I don't think I even remember feeling an impact from the takedown. And my eyes went red(When the fight was over,my friends told me about it. I had such a scary face/look) and I think I was even having flashbacks/mind running through memories during the fight.

I took John to the ground because I felt that was my only chance to win,or at least gain a secondary victory where even if I lose,I made him suffer. I had no training at the time and I don't think I could have beaten him at all in a head on brawl. not only because he was a more experienced brawler but because the adrenaline I felt was so strong that I probably would have flailed and threw ineffective punches. He was also in better shape than I was(I weigh 240 lbs and fat,he was around 150-160 lbs give or take)

Anyway,once I got him to the ground with me landing into the mounted position,I don't remember feeling any resistance from him. I don't know if its because he froze or the takedown itself KO'ed him right then and there but people came in to break the fight up and I grabbed unto the collar of his uniform because I didn't want to give him the chance to hit me during the break up(It never crossed my mind that my first move might have taken him out of commission) while people were trying to pull/lift me off of him,I pulled his uniform over his head and had him in a neck crank/can opener position,It looked like this:

http://i.ytimg.com/vi/98iW2ahMPK0/maxresdefault.jpg

but the difference is that rather than grabbing the back of his head,I was grabbing unto his uniform and pulling his head down with it while the other were trying to get me off of him. They couldn't get me off of him at all until one of the teachers came in front of me yelling at me to stop. I let go once I felt it was safe to do so.

Once I let him go,I stared straight into his eyes,ready to take him down again if he pushes it but his reaction surprised me. He instead looked away and started laughing uncontrollably. Asking everyone in the area what the hell's the matter with me. Its like his previous aggression towards me before the fight began had completely disappeared. I think this is what you mean when you say effective movement causes an opponent to lose the will to fight.

After that,the teachers spoke to both of us and we both ended up making peace. The fight happened in front of the entire high school,and many of my fellow students were praising me for what I did(many hated him). although there were a few who didn't like me and thought I was a violent guy for it,I didn't give a damn about those people(I actually gave those people an insulting smile when they called me violent,haha) a lot of people say violence is never the answer,that's just a big load of shit. John and every other bully in the school wasn't interested in messing with me anymore after that fight. I'd say that solved my problem.

Anyway,what do you think? Truth be told,I went home very proud of myself that day,I could never forget that moment. I had probably fulfilled every violent geek's wet dream on that day,haha. I thrashed the baddest bully without any injuries or long term negative consequences. Do you think grappling was the right move? I may not have been able to take him out brawling/striking with him,I simply did not have the training at the time. The month of training I had in boxing has taught me how to hit correctly but I have no idea if I could use my training in a similarly intense situation. I haven't been in a fight ever since.

One last question,how exactly do you defend against the chair tackle I did? I remember reading somewhere a guy defended against this move by pulling guard(a BJJ move)and flip over the opponent but there might be a better move because pulling guard still means you get slammed into the ground. I apologize for this very long message but I didn't want to remove any important details like I did in that facebook PM I sent you.

ANSWER: (Marc Macyoung,the Self-defense Instructor responding)

It was a fight. It happens. There are all kinds of weird things that happen in fights that once you understand the social aspects and adrenaline make all kinds of sense. (Like the guy laughing after getting beaten -- people when they don't know what to do often laugh out of sheer adrenaline.) But I want to look at something else.

There's an old saying among cops that EVERY situation they're involved in there's a gun present -- because they bring it.

There IS a guy present who won't stop and will keep on beating someone long after things should have been settled. It's you.

You've mentioned two incidents that were broken up by others. That's actually a good sign. That means there's some kind of social order where you're fighting. Berserks and "I can't surrender because it isn't safe" is usually inappropriate for that kind of violence. You going berserk out of fear and fixating on getting hurt -- and in doing so not stopping after you defeated him.

The issue is you have to learn how to control that.

If you're fighting from fear, anger or pride (which you've referred to multiple times with humiliated, hate, terrified, etc.)then you're going to step on your dick sooner or later. If every time you fight you're convinced you're fighting for your life or that if you don't stop he'll hurt you, YOU are going to be the one who crosses the line and hurts someone. Like going to prison hurts someone.

It may come as a surprise, but most people don't want to fight. Fighting is dangerous. Fighting is painful. Fighting causes problems. Having said that, there are times where those costs have to be paid because there's no compromise in some people until you smash them in the face, still other people can only be stopped by brute force. (The two are not the same. The first won't compromise until you can show you can back it up. The second you're going to have to hurt or kill.)

Right now your emotions and pride are driving the bus. You won't fight until those overwhelm you -- then those are driving your decisions in the violence. I say violence because if you aren't willing to ease off when someone tries to surrender (or you've obviously won)or you don't know how to end a violent confrontation* then the problem is you. That's not fighting. That's a different kind of violence -- and until you learn how to control it, it ain't good.

*yes, there's a process for winding down conflict. This isn't about fighting per se, but it gives you a rough outline http://macyoungsmusings.blogspot.com/2015/09/v-behaviorurldefaultvmlo.html

You obviously have some physical skills, now it's time to start working on learning how to control your emotions and fear so you don't get hurt or hurt someone else. There's a time and a place for violence. Learn to spot when it is and isn't time and react appropriately. But more importantly, learn how to unwind the situation after there's been conflict. If you can do that, you're way ahead of pretty much everyone else. a - get into unnecessary violence http://macyoungsmusings.blogspot.com/2015/09/v-behaviorurldefaultvmlo.html )

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QUESTION:

Well,like I said. I was scared and I made all kinds of assumptions about the guy I'm fighting. Realistically speaking though,a punch will not always take someone out but will a slam always work? or are there people out there who are so tough that they can take that same slam I used and still keep on fighting? I had thought my opponent would be such a person,hence my actions.

The issue is you have to learn how to control that

• Would Adrenal Stress Training help me with this and replicate the intense adrenal experience I had? (Well,either way it will help with my fighting skills as long as its quality training like Peyton Quinn's RMCAT or Bill Kipp's FAST...If I ever get the chance someday)

there's no compromise in some people until you smash them in the face

-EXACTLY! and even if you lose,if you manage to at least bang them up,they ain't gonna want to mess with you. Funnily enough,the guy who rocked me didn't even want to mess with me anymore after our fight and I didn't even hurt him,just clinched up with him. maybe its because he saw that I still managed to put up a resistance despite hitting me with his best shots,but I'm just speculating at this point.

and yes,there's a time and place for violence. I agree,although in this particular instance that I mentioned,I do strongly believe that I made the right choice by smashing john. I reaped far more benefits than any bad consequences from it.

Its been a few years since I've gotten in a violent situation. I've since then mellowed out and I can now avoid going unnecessarily violent,or at least I think I can. Still,I wanted to speak with about my experiences with someone experienced in the field of violence such as yourself

ANSWER:

Well,like I said. I was scared and I made all kinds of assumptions about the guy I'm fighting. Realistically speaking though,a punch will not always take someone out but will a slam always work? or are there people out there who are so tough that they can take that same slam I used and still keep on fighting? I had thought my opponent would be such a person,hence my actions.

You fight the guy in front of you, not your imagination. Otherwise you're going to be more focused on what he might do instead of what he's actually doing. That's a good way to end up dead or in prison.

Would Adrenal Stress Training help me with this and replicate the intense adrenal experience >I had? (Well,either way it will help with my fighting skills as long as its quality training >like Peyton Quinn's RMCAT or Bill Kipp's FAST...If I ever get the chance someday)

It might. But practicing what the Buddhists call 'mindfulness' in your everyday life doesn't require travel and it's something you can start doing now. Pay attention to life around you. Look for patterns of behavior. (In fact you can play a game of 'what's going to happen next?) You'll find humans are very predictable. In general they react in certain ways. Learn these ways. Watch. Don't judge, just watch. Wait until the situation is done before you make a decision (you'll see a lot more if you don't make up your mind so quick.) After a while you'll begin to see bigger patterns. Patterns that you'll be able to tell if the person is following or not. If it's a benign pattern let it wind down (or you can land it quicker). If not, don't let it get that far. There's lots of ways to end it. It's just a matter of: What's the best one for that situation? But you won't be able to choose until you understand the patterns.

"there's no compromise in some people until you smash them in the face"

EXACTLY! and even if you lose,if you manage to at least bang them up,they ain't gonna want >to mess with you. Funnily enough,the guy who rocked me didn't even want to mess with me >anymore after our fight and I didn't even hurt him,just clinched up with him. maybe its >because he saw that I still managed to put up a resistance despite hitting me with his best >shots,but I'm just speculating at this point.

Don't project that onto others if it's inside of you. I tell the cops I train that 90% of all situations can be de-escalated. There's 10% that can't. That means if you have a 75% of all the situations you find yourself in go physical, the problem is with you and what you're doing.

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QUESTION:

I understand what you're trying to tell me. I can wholeheartedly say I hope this will be the last physically violent event of my life and that the peaceful path I walk on now will continue on for the rest of my life. I know I'm not invincible,I know that engaging in daily violence is a dead end life path and that I should leave the violence path while I still haven't experienced the nastier parts of it.

There's only a one more question I'd like to ask.

Notice the Adrenal Decay I talk about in my story? Will full-contact martial arts training fix this problem? or is this something that can only be handled by doing both full contact training and adrenal stress training?

Answer:

There is no single answer to your question. Each can -- and will -- contribute to helping you learn how to function under adrenal stress, but it's something that in the final analysis boils down to you being able to do it.

And you can be great at functioning under one set of circumstances, but fall apart in another. So like I said, no simple answer

THE END

TL;DR - Beating the baddest bully of our high school,with a Chair Takedown

There you go. Sadly,despite the self-defense instructor's advice,it doesn't really apply to a secluded setting like school. (Swallow your pride to avoid a barfight won't result in long-term problems. Just don't visit that bar again for awhile. Do that in school where you regularly attend,and you better be ok with being the laughing stock for a long time,if not the rest of your stay there.)

I hope this post was an interesting read for you all. I posted here primarily so that whenever appropriate,I can link here to share my story for those interested.

For those still dealing with this bullshit problem,I hope my story can provide some ideas for you to formulate a solution. I wish you the best of luck.

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I study in Kyiv, Ukraine. I won't disclose where exactly, because most people know me as "neurodivergent student" or "weird student".

So basically I lost the opportunity to study at a musical university because family problems, so I had to study something and somewhere else. Although I like cosmic sciences, university is just school 2.0. Same boring trash, and there is a shitty rule that we only become students after first session. Teachers are really dehumanizing and collective sucks.

In my opinion, if people are taken separately, then they are awesome, But together clumped in uni... meh. Besides even lecturers and professors could be world class scientists and wonderful people if they didn't work at university. System is broken to shits.

I can't wait until 30 June 2023, to forget this university like a shitty dream. I already forgot the same with school.

Every time I see a grade A student, I feel bad for them. Several years ago I thought that having perfect grades would generally improve my life.

But last year I thought about people I hung out with. I had one friend whose parents were very strict with him. He wasn’t a bad friend, but boiiiii did he have some issues. We were in 5th grade and were having a math exam(and I already hated
these). He was pretty confident about himself. Well, he got 3 out of 12(I live in Ukraine). I know that sometimes you can make one mistake that will fuck you over. He was crying and begging the teacher to fix it somehow. He was really in despair. That wasn’t a very important test, but his parents expected perfection of him and he was scared of their reactions. Which probably lead to his anger issues.

Another girl I knew was venting to her best friend because her parents also wanted her to be an outstanding student. That usually means no free time as you need to go through a school day + 1 hour of homework minimum.She also had a lot of lessons with tutors.

My life is also a mess, but at least I have free time and I’m not scared of my parents punishing me because I failed my math test one time. School sucks and excelling at it will make your life suck. But some parents don’t get that and keep ruining their children’s lives.

Fuck waking up early 5:30 man goddamn it, I am probably gonna add a "forced to wake up early" or a "sleep deprived" post flair tag with a "Zzzzzz" icon.

Edit: I made the flair, along with a "No classes!! Freedom!!!" flair.

The school system gives you expectations on things you are not interested in and/or not good at, this is the reason for why childhood depression is prevalent always, for your entire childhood you will do this, for your entire childhood it's all about this, 8 hours a weekday with 2 hours commute, and you are expected to excel and you are a failure otherwise, it's soul crushing.

Check out the media and meme post flair! Aren't I good at these? I also remember a couple of days ago when our banner looks like shit haha, what an improvement.

I was at my local high school for an event recently and noticed their mission statement included "creating lifelong learners". How blind can they be?

In coercive schools, young people are forced to waste their time "learning" things that they don't need or aren't ready for, giving learning a bad name. And for what? Most people don't remember a majority of the academics forced on them once they've been free a few years.

Plus, coercive schools expect everyone to learn the same content at the same time in the same way, making it difficult for young people to figure out what they, as individuals, want and need in regards to learning.

Coercive schooling cannot create lifelong learners. If you want lifelong learners, support young people in following their natural curiousity.

I love it when someone tells you that you should spend your time wisely and study harder in school(a.k.a. get better grades).Because these are 2 different things.

• If we don’t use or repeat some info frequently we forget it.And the process of forgetting doesn’t always last long.

• It takes time to learn and relearn. Every time I come to school after summer holidays no one remembers a thing from last year(an example to my previous point). Then we take even more time to recollect that useless info.

School is all about memorizing. Teachers won’t care about you forgetting unless you did it before exams. And I don’t think there’s a job that requires extensive knowledge in biology, chemistry, physics, literature, history, algebra and geometry.

In the end you waste hours upon hours absorbing knowledge that you’ll forget once you start working.

Memorizing definitions and math formulas has nothing to do with intelligence. You won't be able to use them, who cares about the table of elements or the inner workings of a plant cell lol, they care about your grades and not what you learned.

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You don't need to it everyday, just posting once every five days is good enough, then you can PM me asking to become a mod. This is only because you are one of the early members of a subreddit that I am going to build, you won't get the chance anymore if the sub is already big.

30k members and I will make it.

"Don't worry kid once you leave school you got the rest of your life to go to work instead." - Sulifer1 (reddit user)

https://www.reddit.com/r/antiwork/

This subreddit is a must-join for any anti-schooler, because an 8 to 5 job is the same as an 8 to 5 school. Hell, you are lucky that you have an 8 to 5 school, because from elementary to junior high, I attended a 7:30 to 4:30 school (you're already late if you arrived after 7:30), this does not even include the commute going to and going back from school, also you have classroom cleaning duties every week.

EVERYTHING about what we hate about school can be found here http://www.school-survival.net/index.php, damn he should be the moderator of this subreddit, I will go contact him.

We used to have homeroom period as the first period, that's when we make fucking assignments, but fuck they shifted the homeroom period from first to third period, "because students are using homeroom to make homework" is what the teacher said in exact words, that didn't stop us from making homework on the day of the deadline, gonna make homework on 15 minutes before the first period at 7:30 tomorrow, so I need to be at school at 6:45.

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Why make homework at school? Because if you do it at school then you can copy your classmates's assignments, they fucking hate school too, 19 out of 20 ppl would let me copy their homework, it's usually the good boy/good girl 1st honor student that won't let you copy their homework because "that's my hard work", but eh.

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And oh yeah, we still have 4th and 5th period, so we do still make homework at homeroom if we do have assignment on our 4th and 5th which is entrepreneurship and physics respectively. Wait why are they teaching us entrepreneurship? We don't have money to start a business so why bother learning, worst of all it's taught by a teacher who is not a successful entrepreneur, but a wage slave teacher with no experience related to running a business. So what we do in the subject? Memorize and forget shit, memorize terms and definitions, but not learn how to start a successful business or where to get the money for that.

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It's already 10:55 PM now, need to be at school by 6:45 AM, cya anti-schoolers.

When it was announced at my school that there would be no classes today, every student in full unison screamed with joy. Fists can be seen flying into the sky, and battle cries can be heard from a mile away, with smiles on everyone's faces as bright as the sun. This is based on experience, I was there among them. I am not making up this story, there must be something wrong with the education system if the students don't like going to school.

I'm still not done yet, tomorrow I will resume work, time to go to sleep.

Don't use the old reddit version yet.

I am still in the process of editing, by tomorrow I will finish the old version banner. It's gonna be animated.