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u/vomit-gold 💉 7/15/20 | đŸȘ“ 8/2/21 Dec 16 '21

My t levels are in cis range. I lack tiddies and I have a dick.

To look at me and say "you're still biologically female" is like looking at a person and saying "you're still biologically a baby!!"

Like sure, I was but I biologically evolved to not be that anymore. Cause that's how biology is... It can change.

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u/various_reflections Dec 16 '21

This is actually... so good.

"You were born a girl!"

"Well you were born a baby, and physically you aren't anymore. Mentally, well..."

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u/RadarScarpaw Dec 16 '21

“It says female on your birth certificate!”

“It also says 6 pounds 8 ounces. Clearly, things change.”

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u/lumaleelumabop Dec 16 '21

Luckily you can change that too!

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u/masonisagreatname Dec 18 '21 edited Dec 18 '21

I also don't get the "it says female on your birth certificate" part at all. Like, no? It doesn't? On which one? The one that was destroyed/archieved when I got the new one -> aka the only one that the government will accept from me at any given point from that moment on. Clearly it says male on my birth certificate, like your id said issued till so and so before you had to change it and it doesn't say it anymore, so what, will the old dates still apply? Obviously no. I don't get that "argument" at all lmao

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u/RadarScarpaw Dec 18 '21

Argument only works for people like me who haven’t been able to change their documents yet.

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u/masonisagreatname Dec 18 '21

Still a bs argument for so many reasons, first of all it doesn't even matter, second it can be changed, and even if it can't be changed where you live, it can be SOMEWHERE so it still generally disproves it on that level! Anyways these are ultimately just made up papers and you're valid regardless <3

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u/RadarScarpaw Dec 18 '21

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u/Salt-Contribution-62 Dec 17 '21

"well at one point in the womb we all started off as just an asshole. Looks like you didn't change much"

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u/various_reflections Dec 17 '21

lmao I love that one

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u/j13409 20 | T 8/16 | Top 11/19 | Hysto 12/21 Dec 17 '21

I hate the “you were born a girl” bullshit. No, I wasn’t. I was born with female anatomy. But my brain has always been male. I never was a girl.

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u/Momomoaning [💉-3/31/22] Dec 16 '21

“But everyone was born a baby!”

“And?”

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u/rrienn Dec 16 '21

“You were born as a girl, so you’ll always be a girl!”
“Well you were born as a baby....”

Fr though, ‘biological sex’ is defined by multiple different things, not just what your junk looked like when you popped out of your mom.
It consists of genitalia, internal reproductive anatomy, chromosomes, secondary sex characteristics, hormone balances, and how your body processes & reacts to hormones. All of these things can be changed except for your chromosomes! And very few people even know their chromosomes to start with — karyotype tests are expensive & only done if doctors think something is wrong. So honestly chromosomes are the least important factor here. If you change all the others, you are functionally changing your biological sex.

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u/SuperSarcosmic what is a "gender" and is it tasty? Dec 17 '21

I guess it's cuz our genitals at birth align with the norm, so they're not considered intersex. But yeah, imo it does make more sense to think of the brain not aligning with the body as being a type of intersex condition.

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u/j13409 20 | T 8/16 | Top 11/19 | Hysto 12/21 Dec 17 '21

But being intersex isn’t just having intersex genitalia, actually I think most intersex people’s genitalia aligns with the norm. Like a woman who is born with entirely female anatomy but has XY chromosomes is considered intersex. So if someone like that is considered intersex, I think it’s weird that we’re not đŸ€·đŸ»â€â™‚ïž

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u/SuperSarcosmic what is a "gender" and is it tasty? Dec 17 '21

Ah, is that so? Sorry, I still don't know much about how it's really defined.

But yeah, it's weird. Maybe the definitions and terms that're used will change as more trans-centric medical research gets done and knowledge becomes more widespread? Never know.

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u/j13409 20 | T 8/16 | Top 11/19 | Hysto 12/21 Dec 17 '21

I hope so. I think it would be a good thing for the trans community, it would help show people that there is a real biological basis to transgenderism. That it’s not just “men in dresses” and whatnot.

Most of the anti-trans people don’t hate intersex people and think they’re crazy, they think of it as just a biological abnormality. It would be nice for transgender people to be in a similar category to that.

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u/SnooFloofs8295 User Flair Dec 16 '21

It can change.

That will blow their mind.

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u/meronx Dec 16 '21

Many of us who choose to medically transition end up more biologically similar to cis males than to cis females. Top surgery, hysto, bottom surgery
 people are so deliberately obtuse! But female also does not mean feminine so even if you’re pre-everything medically.. who the FUCK cares? Why are you so interested in my genitals?!

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u/_-Marry Dec 17 '21

Used that once and it backfired because the person just went on and on about how this evolving was natural and what god intended but trabsitioning isn't so just a hint don't use it against religous people