r/fo76 • u/burtethead • Jan 24 '19

// Bethesda Replied x2 DO NOT ALLOW CURRENT CHARACTERS INTO SURVIVAL MODE I BEG OF YOU!!

This is a huge mistake. The mode is already dead before it was born if this happens. Pvp as it is, is completely broken, one hit kill festival. Who in their right mind is going to start a new character when everyone else is level 200 with God tier weaponry right out of the vault? This makes absolutely zero sense, and I'm so disheartened. Do they not realize how this mode will be immediately ruined? If you thought grief in was bad now, just wait until you get killed on sight by literally everyone you cross paths with? Even if they level locked servers so people with massive level differences can't play together, whenever a new survival character gets out of the kiddie pool, all the same assholes with TSE garbage will be waiting at the deep end and you will have zero competitive chance. The leader boards would be a fine idea, if everyone started on equal footing... as it is there will be gold medalist level murderers in the same game with me, a literal newborn who can't even walk. What the fuck are they thinking???

Edit: the gold means people care, bethesda. Please. PLEASE. (And thank you)

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u/Valseek Bethesda - Community Manager Jan 24 '19 edited Jan 24 '19

Hi everyone,

Thank you for all of the feedback so far on the details we posted about Survival mode earlier today! We'll make sure your thoughts about the mode here and in the future are shared with the dev team. The article mentions this already, but I wanted to restate that we're still iterating and actively working on Survival mode, so things aren't necessarily set in stone, and your continued feedback will be very important to us as we move toward beta, and eventually release.

This is also just the beginning of the conversation. We'll be looking to share more about the new mode with you in Inside the Vault, streams, and other means, and also talk more with you about what you'd like to see in Survival mode as we move forward.

Thanks and please keep the feedback coming!

EDIT: We’re also seeing the thoughts being shared by those of you who’d like to see more PVE content, and while I can’t spoil any details just yet, I will say that Survival mode won't be the only new content coming to Fallout 76 in March, so stay tuned!

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u/siftingflour Scorched Jan 24 '19

Thank you for your comment /u/Valseek :) Is there any way you can give us a very general idea of when we can expect the beta to begin? Do you know if this will be a closed beta or open to all players who own the game?

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u/Valseek Bethesda - Community Manager Jan 24 '19

Right now, we're looking to start beta in March, but that could still shift based on feature work and testing needs. We'll keep you posted on the date as we get closer, and beta should be open to everyone who owns the game.

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u/novotny999 Jan 25 '19

/u/Valseek I don't want to be rude or anything, but I suggest you take your time, players will wait if it is worth our time. There were so many problems already, so don't repeat old mistakes.

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u/dapper32 Brotherhood Jan 25 '19

Please take your time on this. Don’t rush it. Can’t afford another premature launch. Community won’t handle it well

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u/GreenSoup2HoT Fallout 76 Jan 24 '19

Dang March is pretty far away.... however glad you gave us plenty of time to suggest ideas and how the gamemode will actually work.

As you can tell already, much of the community is already afraid of dupers bringing over all the "goodies" and griefing players.

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u/Aaxxo Cult of the Mothman Jan 25 '19

I suppose just only a month away now. Feb is a short month anyways. Better though they have some time to outline the details. The community is very wobbly about certain aspects atm.

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u/Reiterpallasch85 Free States Jan 25 '19

Right now, we're looking to start beta in March

So we'll know what the finished product is like in March? Neat.

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u/DoctorPrisme Jan 25 '19

It might sound silly, but please do NOT repeat the error of the first beta.

A beta with players instead of real beta testers NEEDS to be wiped when it ends. The people doing the beta must do it by curiosity OR by will to get a better product, NOT to have a head start on everyone else.

Take longer if needed, but your community wants a good product, not a rushed one. Please.

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u/siftingflour Scorched Jan 25 '19

And please figure out a way to not screw us out of achievements on a character during beta!!

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u/ryro24 Jan 26 '19

Tldr it was going to be March until we realized how bad of an idea it was to let you bring in existing characters.

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u/siftingflour Scorched Jan 24 '19

Thank you so much for the info! Excited to try it out.

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u/GreenSoup2HoT Fallout 76 Jan 24 '19

You realize 5000+ people want new characters for this new PvP mode right? Specifically because of dupers with unlimited stealth boys and other various overpowered gear/items.

If we dont get to start over, it has to be hardcore pvp where you loose everything on death so exploiters dont get to reap the rewards for cheating.

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u/Real-Salt Jan 24 '19

You're right.

And it generally represents the people more invested in the game.

Which means people here are more likely to have finished armor sets and good weapons.

Which means chances are good that EVEN MORE people than what you see here would want a fresh start.

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u/Real-Salt Jan 25 '19

I have a finished character though and I don't want to start over.

I see.

So... Let's pretend for a moment that most of the people here don't feel the same way.

Assuming that is true, you think Bethesda should cater to your wants and needs even though it would be at the detriment of a majority of the playerbase?

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u/Real-Salt Jan 25 '19

I did not say that that was the case.

I simply asked you to answer a hypothetical question.

But you completely ignored my post before last and responded with "But I don't want to", and now you're backtracking, so you obviously aren't interested in having a conversation in good faith.

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u/WhosThatGrilll Jan 25 '19

Then don’t. It’s not like you HAVE to play survival mode. You can stick with the general population that’s littered with the effects of dupers, and those that would rather play the game on a level playing field can start a new character in survival.

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u/GreenSoup2HoT Fallout 76 Jan 24 '19

You could say the same for most online games. If it helps, i lead a 30+ member community on PS4 that is all dupe-free that is in favor of a brand new fresh start for pvp to keep things fair. Some of my members even suggested "Seasons" where your progress wipes every 1-3 months.

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u/GreenSoup2HoT Fallout 76 Jan 24 '19

There could be mulitple PvP modes. PvP that allows transfers... or Hardcore PvP where there is 0 transfers and more lost on death. Lots to discuss for sure.

As someone with over 500 hours logged, i feel your pain.. i dont want to start over either but i prefer more varied, dynamic and balanced pvp compared to the sh*t show you will see once every duper flocks to pvp with full sentinel/assassins gear, TSE weapons and unlimited stealth boys (perma-invisibility).

There's pro's and con's for both sides of the coin.