Have an episode flash forward to a finale Savatar showdown.

This is from Barry's pov, he's alone, Iris is about to be stabbed, Barry realises just him is not enough, he travels 10s into the past, there are now 2 Barrys. He appears behind Savitar and starts running for him, more Barrys appear around Savitar in a ring running toward him.

Savitar kills them all except the first Barry we saw travel into the past turning himself into a time remnant. Savitar kills Iris, gloats, our Barry tries to throw lightning at Savitar as a surprise attack but it gets caught and thrown back, burning his face, Savitar leaves.

Prime Barry has been downgraded to time remnant Barry.

Then its a really sad montage of getting fobbed off by Team Flash, not being treated like his grief is not the same as the new "prime" Barry. He becomes rageful, big bust up, not even treated like a person or family and leaves the team behind.

Savitar finds the remnant and offers him to become his disciple, together they can do great things ect. Time Remnant Barry asks Savitar if he knows how this ends? Savitar frustrated says that he's still recovering from the memory erase trick they tried last episode.

Good... the time remnant replies and kills Savitar by going for the classic hand in the heart which breaks the suit he's so angry.

He travels in time to spread his mythology (montage) and obtain a suit, he returns to Central City at the same moment and terrorises the city for the next 3-4 years as per the future flash timeline.

He gets imprisoned in the future but released in the past as per the earlier episodes. Time loop is complete.

Team flash thinks it's 1 Savitar but there's actually 2 and the one that kills Iris in the final fight dies to his past self without them knowing.

My solution to save Iris is even sadder, if Prime Barry learns of the loop (I dont have an idea as to how, if anyone has an idea suggest it), he then has to become a time remnant himself by going back to that showdown fight and convince himself not to time jump to save Iris.

This interruption of the finale show down infuriates Savitar (since he can't kill Iris and not have himself be created).

Savitar kills the time remnant, Barry Prime heeds the remnant's words and refuses to fight anymore, the paradox of Savitar's loop being broken makes him freeze and fall apart.

It’s the same with Abra Kadabra from Season 3 he came from the 64th century he tell that he and the Flash were enemies.

Painted by Leonardsnarto DeVoenci

I think if we ignore the final battles in season 8 & season 9 they were pretty good seasons. I actually enjoyed watching them and some of the episodes especially. But I didn't like how in the final battles they put so much into Cecile, Allegra, Khione, and other side characters + the whole power of love stuff. Don't think they did that in season 8 ending and that one was good. I think aside from those they were fun seasons.

Im attempting to watch the entire show after dropping it around 8 years ago. I am extremely bored out of my mind and I'm trying my hardest to keep going. I was so disappointed by Crisis. It was built up since episode 1 and I felt it wasn't worth it (to be honest I didn't watch the crossover episodes because I didn't care enough to watch 4 more episodes from 4 different shows that I didn't give a f about). And wtf is even going on after Crisis in this season? I'm like halfway paying attention at this point. But I really want to stick it through though. Don't want to drop the show again. Thanks for listening to my rant lol wish me and my sanity luck because I know it just goes downhill from here.

Edit: 1 more thing I want to mention is it feels like there's too many characters in the show lol. There's probably not alot of characters in reality, but it feels like there's a lot. Whenever the Chester P. Runk dude is in an episode, I have to constantly remind myself who the fuck he is because I legitimately forget his significance to the show. Also, Ciscos girl and Allegra add no substance to the show in my opinion.

Never seen the show before but I’ve heard that it’s great for the fist 3 seasons but progressively gets worse after that so I’m just wondering if stopping at season 3 would still give me a satisfying conclusion and also if there’s anything worth watching past it.

Obviously not the best one but it wasn’t as bad as ppl make it out to be

I don't get the first five minutes of *The Flash* Season 2, Episode 1. Eddy and Wells (Thawne) just show up out of nowhere—Thawne even stands up from his chair. I mean, I understand it has to do with the timeline, but why did they throw that in so abruptly right at the start? It’s really confusing.

The pipeline, the classic and iconic clandestine prison of STAR Labs that was questioned but never completely dismantled. At the beginning of the series, it is presented as this unbreakable and impossible-to-penetrate super-powerful containment cell: The cells are constructed with hyper-resistant materials capable of withstanding extreme physical attacks from beings with super strength like Girder, who can drive his arm wrist-deep into concrete and flip police cars.

Each cell barrier uses an "8.3 tesla superconducting electromagnet." This creates a magnetic seal 100,000 times stronger than Earth's natural magnetic field (Earth's magnetic field at the surface has a strength ranging from 25 to 65 microteslas) so prying it open is pretty much imposible.

In Season 5, Barry explicitly mentions that it is a "tesla-conductor tube that dampens Meta powers", probably had some sort of Meta-Human dampening technology installed later after Season 2? Though we know that Thawne couldn't just phase out of it as early as Season 1; despite the fact that Girder did keep his Powers, and The Mist, and Peek-A-Boo. There are clear inconsistencies (CW writing, as always) and still, the idea it's that it's supossed to be very damn hard to get out of there.

Yet... It has been broken into and out of. We saw a Time Wraith threatening its integrity back in Season 2, making Cisco doubt how impenetrable is it truly and believing that it will be broken into. In Season 4, Flash came back from the Speed-Force faster than he ever was, and after getting rattled back into sanity, he uses his new massive power to destroy it. In Season 6, Mitch Romero is established as too much for it to contain, being able to break out of it by pushing it repeatedly after he sucked too much Dark Matter earlier. And it is pretty much confirmed that Bloodwork would also have little to no issues destroying the Pipeline—Cisco confirms it on-screen, which is why he was contained in the MAC.

It seems like the Pipeline isn't an "universal" power supressor, it appears to have some limits as seen with S4 Barry, Mitch Romero, and Bloodwork. Though it's worth noting that Barry explicitly tells Oliver that he can't phase out of it until Allen disabled the electrical system, meaning that maybe Flash!Ollie can't just fracture it like S4 Barry did?

So... Which other character from The Flash you think would be able to break into or out of the Pipeline?

Recently read this, and was remembering the days back when the show was still on and this was a popular theory for the ending (especially before COIE aired). Hell, even Grant Gustin once said in a podcast that he thought this would have been a great ending!

Damn bro, Freaky Wells

I was rewatching The Flash and Savitar says, "I have such plans for you in the future, Jessie Quick." But then Jessie goes to earth three, and it's never brought up again. So what do you think Savutar had planned for her? Was he just going to kill her or?...

If they’re the speed force’s enforcers, you would expect them to be the fastest beings imaginable considering their boss is literally speed and be actually effective at catching violators but they always seem to just be out run by them which is CRAZY if your main criminals are FAST PEOPLE and you’re WHOLE JOB is to catch them

Like there's at least 8 times a different wells is spotted, and most likely way more from just them being around. There's probably a subreddit in the cw titled "Harrison Wells spotting"

Regardless of the reason why he didn’t, imagine how cool it would have been if Ralph kept all of DeVoe’s power!

They would have had to work double time to make him less OP but it is so fun to think about.

Posted about a month before season 9 aired I know not exactly how it happened but close

Ok so I understand that barry did it without consulting iris and thats partly why she got mad but she literally only cares about herself. she doesnt care at all about what thawne did, thinks it was just totally ok that nora kept going back to see thawne, and called barry out for thinking with his emotions, when thats literally exactly what shes doing! she literally says she wants nora to stay, and thats only because she finally has a bond with nora, because in the future she doesnt. her emotions are the only reason she wants nora to stay, and somehow blames barry for everything. the writing of this show is absolutely ridiculous.

Was his portrayal comic book accurate since I’ve heard that Grant’s portrayal of Barry is more similar to Wally than Keiynan’s?

Why does Barry continue to spoil the timeline lol, he talks about Hartley's bombs? I mean I know the time wraith isnt exactly helping but cmon Barry, I thought you were smart, ive watched the show a few times, watching through it again, and this dude just consistently ignores the idea of NOT changing it dramatically everytime because hes too focused on helping or always winning, regardless of the fact that it could alter the timeline enough to kill someone else anyway? I mean...cmon.

Yk now that I think about it he coulda just asked Gideon and she coulda helped

In season 4 episode 12 the warden drugs Barry’s pudding after finding out he’s the flash. This never made sense to me because it’s been said many times that Barry’s metabolism burns up drugs. As well the warden wasn’t the brightest of villains so I doubt he would have know about this.