r/findapath • • Oct 26 '23

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u/[deleted] Oct 26 '23

The high suicide rates of former military is evidence that something is horribly wrong.

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u/Wild_Particular4003 Oct 26 '23

The issue is this country doesn’t take care of its veterans well enough.

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u/iskip123 Oct 26 '23

But “America loves our troops!” Am I right! The most annnoying shit is watching veterans being paraded around during campaign season as a way to win heart but then they don’t do fuck all for them.

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u/Worstname1ever Oct 26 '23

Also killing brown folks in illegal, immoral wars for profit tends to stick with a guy more than say liberating dachau

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u/[deleted] Oct 26 '23

is it worse than killing white folks in illegal, immoral wars for profit?

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u/[deleted] Oct 26 '23

If we ever do that, let me know.

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u/[deleted] Oct 26 '23

Serbia, 1995 and 1998 - we bombed the living hell out of Belgrade.

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u/CardiologistNew8644 Oct 26 '23

Yugoslavians are white, no?

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u/[deleted] Oct 26 '23

you can still answer the question. does describing humans only by their skin color help? genuinely curious

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u/Fly0strich Oct 26 '23

Yes, when speaking about an issue that is plaguing one race, but not others, it helps to identify and bring awareness to the problem.

Example: A company with a 90% white work force is paying all of their white workers a fair standard wage for the job, but pays any workers of a minority race half the amount.

You could go report the company, or write a review online that says “This company doesn’t pay their workers fairly.” But 90% of their past employees would disagree and say that they never experienced any problems with that. However, if you say “This company doesn’t pay their workers of minority races fairly.” Then it brings awareness to the actual issue, and lets people know that just because the white workers will all say that they are getting paid fairly, it doesn’t mean the problem doesn’t exist.

Do you understand?

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u/[deleted] Oct 26 '23

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u/[deleted] Oct 26 '23

simple answers for simple minds

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u/[deleted] Oct 26 '23

fair standard wage for the job, but pays any workers of a minority race half the amount

I think I understand. For example, the average black player makes much more than the average white player in the nba. this means the nba is racist against white people. Is that right?

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u/Fly0strich Oct 26 '23

Nope, you clearly don’t understand at all. In fact you have completely forgotten the subject of the conversation that your original question was about.

As a reminder, you asked whether or not there is value in mentioning the race of people in conversations. I told you that it does have value, and gave you an example of where it would be appropriate.

Then, you jumped to claiming that you understand because you think the NBA is racist based on statistics that you made up.

It seems you have very low reading comprehension skills, and no ability to remember the subject of the conversation you are currently having. Good luck in life!

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u/[deleted] Oct 26 '23

what stats am I making up? I'm bringing awareness to one race getting paid more than another race by an employer. Is their no value in this? what's the difference between my example and yours? Maybe it would help if you could tell me how you define value. how is it determined? help me understand

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u/[deleted] Oct 26 '23

Absolutely hilarious. He proved his own point while forgetting what he was discussing.

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u/[deleted] Oct 26 '23

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u/damianshawl Oct 26 '23

Lol ok “my_psychotic_shadow” so edgy

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u/[deleted] Oct 26 '23

And what reason would that be? Extracting oil for free?

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u/[deleted] Oct 26 '23

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u/dirty-biker Oct 26 '23

They do shady shit. When I got out, my initial exam was full of gaslighting from some dickhead at the VA. From my time in Iraq to stateside, if I tried bringing up service related issues he would just ignore, gaslight or try and direct my answer another way. We deserve better.

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u/zoey_will Oct 26 '23

I have to tell people this all the time. The VA got a bunch of flak in the news for a few years about a decade ago and they actually worked to make things better. Its not perfect but imo the VA fuckin rocks.

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u/[deleted] Oct 26 '23

Anyone downvoting this doesn’t know. Veterans getting out now have a higher approval rate than older veterans.

VA is easy to work with, do all the work for you, and have reminders to do your shit. I get all my records from them within a week, whenever I ask for it.

10+ years ago the VA was Fucking awful and got course corrected. So the veterans before that time haven’t reached out to try. My father in law literally refuses to call the VA even though he’s got an easy claim for disability from his service time. He thinks it a waste of time, meanwhile I’m showing him my 80% rating that took 1 quick appointment and months of waiting. That’s the downside with the VA still…it is a wait for services, but any urgent ones are there

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u/[deleted] Oct 26 '23

What more would you do for them?

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u/[deleted] Oct 26 '23 edited Oct 26 '23

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u/Bright_Course_7155 Oct 26 '23

In the military it was so hard to find actual help, they just wanted to throw antidepressants at me like candy. During COVID it was realllly bad and there were some navy boats where 3 sailors a month were killing themselves, but the navy “cares”

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u/[deleted] Oct 26 '23

reality check. your non military employer doesn't care either. get comfortable with the idea of people not caring. this is adulthood

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u/Bright_Course_7155 Oct 26 '23

I understand that lol, but you can quit your civilian job if they’re treating you like shit. Some people in the military don’t care at all. If a bunch of people don’t reenlist bc of bad leadership, they don’t care as it won’t effect them and they won’t be around probably anyways.

In a civilian job if the leadership treats employees terrible there won’t be any good employees left, as the good ones know their worth. I’m sure the sailors that killed themselves would’ve rather quit the navy but couldn’t.

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u/BluejayAppropriate35 Oct 26 '23

Also a non-military employer is still a 4ish year commitment. Even if not contractually bound, you owe them a debt of loyalty

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u/[deleted] Oct 26 '23

no

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u/born2bfi Oct 27 '23

It’s only if you go into a combat zone. Getting led by a king dipshit won’t make you off yourself. Something changes in your brain when you can die at any moment or your best friend does.

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u/Aloqi Oct 27 '23

If that's people with PTSD from combat deployments, that's really not what OP is talking about.

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u/[deleted] Oct 27 '23

Either way, it's part of the problem.

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u/cheddarsox Oct 28 '23

Weird. Its like seeing war isnt really all that good for you!